Rogan is an idiot. [Archive] - East Side Boxing Forum

Blue145

05-15-2009, 07:49 PM

A boxer doesn't tell the ref when to stop it, he makes fucking sure it has to be stopped. Crazy thing to do, no killer instinct at all.

Blue145

05-15-2009, 07:50 PM

Well he was being sportsmanlike but I tend to agree, he should have just chinned him.

Of course its sad to see, perhaps it should have been stopped but Rogan should have ended it and gave the ref no option.

nulty

05-15-2009, 07:51 PM

A boxer doesn't tell the ref when to stop it, he makes fucking sure it has to be stopped. Crazy thing to do, no killer instinct at all.

Was Larry Holmes crazy for calling the ref in against Ali and Marvis Fraizer?

bored

05-15-2009, 07:54 PM

Exciting idiot though.

Fat Joe

05-15-2009, 08:02 PM

He was fighting dirty all the way through, then develops a compassionate streak when he needed the killer instinct

GazOC

05-15-2009, 08:24 PM

Was Larry Holmes crazy for calling the ref in against Ali and Marvis Fraizer?

Holmes wasn't behind on points with one eye closed....;)

Guy

05-15-2009, 08:24 PM

exciting idiot though.

+1

destruction

05-15-2009, 08:26 PM

I am amazed that Sexton won this fight, I need to see the replay.

GPater11093

05-15-2009, 08:49 PM

Benny Lynch did this in a fight he had an opponent hurt on the ropes so he grabbed him and took him in to the center of the ring to give him a abetter chance then he KOd him

doylexxx

05-15-2009, 08:57 PM

he was dizzy idiots, not think straight

moorser

05-15-2009, 09:48 PM

rogie is too nice for his own good , the ref should have syopped it

Dan684

05-15-2009, 09:58 PM

Wrong Person :-)

Vantage_West

05-16-2009, 12:41 AM

it looked like sexton was looking at the ref while he signaled a no dont do it signal with his left hand. rogan saw it and just assumed it was over.

sexton was completly finished at that point. i have seen stoppages stopped far ealier than sextons flopping. especially turning away from your opponant not long before that.

itrymariti

05-16-2009, 05:43 AM

stuey

05-16-2009, 06:08 AM

i dont think rogie had anything left, thats why he never went for it, not compassion, sportsmanship or lack of killer instinct, simply he was fuckered.

moorser

05-16-2009, 06:13 AM

i dont think rogie had anything left, thats why he never went for it, not compassion, sportsmanship or lack of killer instinct, simply he was fuckered.

no compassion ?? surely your having a laugh

stuey

05-16-2009, 06:19 AM

no compassion ?? surely your having a laugh

just my opinion,i have seen it hundreds of times, you go for it big time,dont stopthe gezzer,you get an opening and you just cant throw anything.....it happens.
maybe it was rogie being nice,but i cant see it,i mean he dont mind the elbow,hitting and holding etc....

slapbangwhallop

05-16-2009, 06:29 AM

i dont think rogie had anything left, thats why he never went for it, not compassion, sportsmanship or lack of killer instinct, simply he was fuckered.

if he had nothing left - how come he was throughing bombs again ten seconds later? :?

stuey

05-16-2009, 06:31 AM

if he had nothing left - how come he was throughing bombs again ten seconds later? :?

it only takes a few seconds to catch your wind.....

besides he was hardly throwing bombs, they were slow arm punches after that...

P4PNo.1

05-16-2009, 06:58 AM

I can't believe he didn't stop Sexton. Big mistake but I doubt he'll be doing it again.

DGLASS JAW

05-16-2009, 07:02 AM

lack of experinces....

pathmanc1986

05-16-2009, 07:04 AM

the ref was really poor for both fighters i thought, at some points it was developing into a decent scrap and he just kept pushing them a mile apart

the round was ridiculous. SEXTON GAVE UP TWICE!!!! he turns his back when getting punched (protect yourself at all times) and then stops completely.crazy. he should have been stopped.

on the other hand rogan should have been a ruthless and KO'd Sexton completely. although i suppose people would be saying Rogan was in hte wrong for punching a defencless boxer.

rematch is a must. was there much talk about it happening?

GazOC

05-16-2009, 07:09 AM

I've just watched it agian and the reffing wasn't great prior to the 8th but it that round it seemed to me that Sexton was turned by the punches in the corner rather than actaully turning his back and he seemed to be pointing to his gumshield on the floor when Rogan held off hitting him. I'm sure the gumshield was a buying time tactic but its Rogan fault he didn't finish him off at the point.

trotter

05-16-2009, 07:17 AM

I've said this on other threads, but: What if Sexton's corner really had thrown the towel in - as Sexton was making out to Rogan - and Rogan had ignored it and knocked him the fuck out? We'd all be jeering at him, especially if Sexton had suffered a lasting injury. The man could even have been killed.

I didn't notice that. It makes sense of a totally bizarre scenario.

Essentially Sexton has played him like a violin then.

I wouldn't go as far as cheating but it's certainly gamesmanship. But if a big fella like Rogan was coming to take a free shot at me I'd probably try it too.

GazOC

05-16-2009, 07:19 AM

Watch it again, he points to the floor to the same spot from where you see Parris pick his gumshield up from 10 seconds later.

slapbangwhallop

05-16-2009, 07:22 AM

I didn't notice that. It makes sense of a totally bizarre scenario.

Essentially Sexton has played him like a violin then.

I wouldn't go as far as cheating but it's certainly gamesmanship. But if a big fella like Rogan was coming to take a free shot at me I'd probably try it too.

if it werent for the deliberate rubbing of his head into Rogans eye, the turning away and hiding his head at the turnbuckle and the spitting the sheild out then I would have said that is was a great Bartezesque move - but the combination of all of those in the one round crosses the line into cheating imo.

Rebel-INS

05-16-2009, 08:03 AM

I've said this on other threads, but: What if Sexton's corner really had thrown the towel in - as Sexton was making out to Rogan - and Rogan had ignored it and knocked him the fuck out? We'd all be jeering at him, especially if Sexton had suffered a lasting injury. The man could even have been killed.

Yeah well that's the aim of the game. It might sound heartless but ui he dies, he dies. They know what they're getting into before they get in the ring.

noonan

05-16-2009, 08:13 AM

Yeah well that's the aim of the game. It might sound heartless but ui he dies, he dies. They know what they're getting into before they get in the ring.

Calm down Drago, you"ll be saying hes like a piece of iron next!!

brown bomber

05-16-2009, 08:24 AM

Calm down Drago, you"ll be saying hes like a piece of iron next!!:lol:

krisby

05-16-2009, 04:42 PM

Yeah well that's the aim of the game. It might sound heartless but ui he dies, he dies. They know what they're getting into before they get in the ring.

Although it is a possibility. I dont think any fighter actual thinks they may die in the ring.

JIM KELLY

05-16-2009, 04:55 PM

LOL..

i feel for rogan but he blew it, grrr!
Imagine mike tyson saw that shit? LOL..would be slaughter!

captain k

05-16-2009, 08:11 PM

total disgrace . sexton quit he spat out his gumshield and wen it wasnt stopped he pointed it to the ref, rogan seen it and paused anyone who says sexton didnt quit is full of shit

icemax

05-16-2009, 08:22 PM

it looked like sexton was looking at the ref while he signaled a no dont do it signal with his left hand.

He was looking at the ref and pointing with his left hand at his gumshield on the canvas. Sexton wasn't all in IMO, he came on pretty strong once the shield had been replaced.

debaser

05-17-2009, 01:20 PM

Haven't seen this yet but it sounds totally bizarre. Sounds as if Rogan only has himself to blame. Guess he won't be making the same mitake in future.

9Ball

05-17-2009, 01:28 PM

Yeah well that's the aim of the game. It might sound heartless but ui he dies, he dies. They know what they're getting into before they get in the ring.

Not heartless, just dumb.
For the good of the fighter, his family, the fans and the sport in general a fighter dying in the ring is disastrous!!

fenian 67

05-17-2009, 06:38 PM

He was fighting dirty all the way through, then develops a compassionate streak when he needed the killer instinct
i agree rogie was too nice for his own good.i dont know how you can say say rogie fought dirty the whole way through though

fenian 67

05-17-2009, 06:41 PM

as john breen[martin rogans trainer] said "eamonn magee or neil sinclair would have killed sexton when he put his hands down.martin is too friendly when it comes down to it"

LHL

05-17-2009, 06:43 PM

as john breen[martin rogans trainer] said "eamonn magee or neil sinclair would have killed sexton when he put his hands down.martin is too friendly when it comes down to it"

Very true :deal

Kane

05-17-2009, 06:43 PM

as john breen[martin rogans trainer] said "eamonn magee or neil sinclair would have killed sexton when he put his hands down.martin is too friendly when it comes down to it"

It's a pity that Eamonn Magee didn't jump into the ring and finish the job, he looked like he wanted to!

Guy

05-17-2009, 06:47 PM

Sexton would have fucked them up to the paddy push overs...:hey

Kane

05-17-2009, 06:50 PM

Sexton would have fucked them up to the paddy push overs...:hey

Doubtful! Even John Breen could have finished Sexton off in that 8th round, he was fucked!

fenian 67

05-17-2009, 06:54 PM

It's a pity that Eamonn Magee didn't jump into the ring and finish the job, he looked like he wanted to!
i think eamonn john breen and paul mccloskey were all ready to jump in ate one stage:D

icemax

05-17-2009, 07:19 PM

Doubtful! Even John Breen could have finished Sexton off in that 8th round, he was fucked!

:rofl:rofl

Your man got beat....by an Englishman...get over it

fenian 67

05-17-2009, 07:28 PM

:rofl:rofl

Your man got beat....by an Englishman...get over it
i cant speak for every irishman but im not pissed off cos rogie lost to an englishman.the fight was stopped cos of a swollen eye.dont tar us all with the same brush bud

LHL

05-17-2009, 07:33 PM

I'm definitely not pissed that it was an englishman that beat rogie actually for an Englishman to beat any irishman i wouldn't be pissed off. I'm Pissed off at Rogie and the ref (not because of the stoppage) and the fans at the fight who booed the Olympians.

icemax

05-17-2009, 07:34 PM

i cant speak for every irishman but im not pissed off cos rogie lost to an englishman.the fight was stopped cos of a swollen eye.dont tar us all with the same brush bud

Because of work commitments I spent a great deal of time in NI during the 80's :hey and can honestly say that during that time I saw the worst and best of men... I have a very special place in my heart for all you Paddy twats, but nothing takes away from the fact that Rogan got beat basically by a journeyman

fenian 67

05-17-2009, 07:52 PM

Because of work commitments I spent a great deal of time in NI during the 80's :hey and can honestly say that during that time I saw the worst and best of men... I have a very special place in my heart for all you Paddy twats, but nothing takes away from the fact that Rogan got beat basically by a journeyman
look mate i tried to be nice to ya but you still insult us.im sorry if fellas insulted or intimidated or threatened you while you were in northern ireland but at the end of the day these people are gone.no one in ireland supports the fools that are shooting now so why cant the brit and irish boys on esb get on for a change

D-MAC

05-17-2009, 08:01 PM

Because of work commitments I spent a great deal of time in NI during the 80's :hey and can honestly say that during that time I saw the worst and best of men... I have a very special place in my heart for all you Paddy twats, but nothing takes away from the fact that Rogan got beat basically by a journeyman

You paddy hating slag:twisted:

Up to your old tricks again you wind-up-merchant.

BTW why were you over here? Some secret service shit I bet;)

Kane

05-17-2009, 08:03 PM

:rofl:rofl

Your man got beat....by an Englishman...get over it

Where in any of my posts have I mentioned the fact that Sam Sexton is English or that I even give a rats ass what his nationality is?!! Grow up ffs!

slapbangwhallop

05-17-2009, 08:29 PM

You paddy hating slag:twisted:

Up to your old tricks again you wind-up-merchant.

BTW why were you over here? Some secret service shit I bet;)

batterin women over the head when they were in their beds kinda secret shit! :hey

surreal deal

05-17-2009, 10:00 PM

Holmes wasn't behind on points with one eye closed....;)
Which Ray Leonard was in the 14th round vs Tommy Hearns(1)where you see him signalling with his glove for the ref to step in.
Not making any point,you just made me think of that moment.:D

icemax

05-18-2009, 05:08 AM

You paddy hating slag:twisted:

Up to your old tricks again you wind-up-merchant.

:yep

BTW why were you over here? Some secret service shit I bet;)

I did 3 tours but no secret service shit, not really my style :D . Spent most of my time dodging barrack busters in South Armagh.... not much in your neck of the woods so I'm not your daddy :good

icemax

05-18-2009, 05:09 AM

batterin women over the head when they were in their beds kinda secret shit! :hey

:good Women were better shots than the men

Lee Mc

05-18-2009, 06:46 AM

Exciting idiot though.

+ everyone who actually watched the fight...

bb18

05-18-2009, 07:14 AM

the ref was very bad he should call it a day havin said that rogan should have finished him off

GazOC

05-18-2009, 07:44 AM

Which Ray Leonard was in the 14th round vs Tommy Hearns(1)where you see him signalling with his glove for the ref to step in.
Not making any point,you just made me think of that moment.:D

You could never question Leonards killer instinct. He was great at finishing a hurt opponent.

Sean101

05-18-2009, 09:46 AM

Rogan really needed his killer instinct when fighting Sexton, if he did that with Haye he would of been sparked clean out

DOM5153

05-18-2009, 11:42 AM

sexton should have ko'd rogan in the seventh

moorser

05-18-2009, 11:47 AM

DOM5153

05-18-2009, 11:53 AM

rogan will knock that cheating bitch sexton out in 5 when the rematch is made , the first time rogan put pressure on sexton the whole fight he was gone only for rogie to stop , he wont make the same mistake twice

sexton handled rogan quite nicely and should have finished the fight in the seventh, now he knows how to outbox rogan a rematch should happen so sexton can KO rogie

rhinocoote

05-18-2009, 11:56 AM

well perhaps he is?
perhaps sexton is an idiot too?
perhaps the ref was an idiot?

but.............
it was great wasn't it?
blood+guts+british heavweights=nice!
beats danny williams any day

TheUzi

05-18-2009, 12:02 PM

Rogans entrance made him look like an idiot before a single punch was thrown.

Chud

05-18-2009, 12:14 PM

Rogans entrance made him look like an idiot before a single punch was thrown.

was one of the worst i can remember, should have used 'shipping up to boston' by Dropkick Murphys.

heres my recap
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GazOC

05-18-2009, 12:16 PM

Rogans entrance made him look like an idiot before a single punch was thrown.

No love for MC Stevie Rock???:-(:blood

slapbangwhallop

05-18-2009, 02:36 PM

sexton handled rogan quite nicely and should have finished the fight in the seventh, now he knows how to outbox rogan a rematch should happen so sexton can KO rogie

Rogan wasnt that hurt in the 7th - he didnt even stumble. It was nothing in comparision to the impression of a drunken rag doll that Sexton was doing in the 6th and 8th.Sexton was 1 point up going into the 8th (and thats in you give him the close rounds). The 8th would have been a 10-8 to Rogan in any mans book (except Sextons neighbours like yours) and that would have had Rogan 1 up in my book going into the 9th!

slapbangwhallop

05-18-2009, 02:37 PM

No love for MC Stevie Rock???:-(:blood

I'm keep out of this one! ;)

TheUzi

05-18-2009, 09:14 PM

No love for MC Stevie Rock???:-(:blood

Just didn't work......

Rapping over Eye Of The Tiger is a no no.

The entrance wasn't as bad as Arthur Abrahams mind you:lol:

icemax

05-18-2009, 09:15 PM

The entrance wasn't as bad as Arthur Abrahams mind you:lol:

Don't diss the Smurfs :blood

2manyusernames

05-18-2009, 10:41 PM

No love for MC Stevie Rock???

That's Ste-V-Roc, I'll have you know!

DOM5153

05-19-2009, 10:41 AM

Rogan wasnt that hurt in the 7th - he didnt even stumble. It was nothing in comparision to the impression of a drunken rag doll that Sexton was doing in the 6th and 8th.Sexton was 1 point up going into the 8th (and thats in you give him the close rounds). The 8th would have been a 10-8 to Rogan in any mans book (except Sextons neighbours like yours) and that would have had Rogan 1 up in my book going into the 9th!

he didnt stumble but to suggest he was anywhere but queer street would be absurd