Prince Naz would have beaten Manny Pacquiao

[Dubstep]

Discuss. Would have been a great fight.

[SouthpawSlayer]

hard to tell we never really saw manny at fw

[kosaros]

Would have been good. Naz has the power to trouble pacquiao IMO.

[faisal]

may be on his best night he would have given him a war but paquiaeo would have prevailed in the end

[brown bomber]

Pac would have walked through him

[Primadonna Kool]

Too much power, Manny Pac is gonna get found out..! when he fights Floyd Maywather..

I don't think he can take power shots.....off a real welter weight.

Ricky Hatton really did'nt get a chance to land, but Floyd Mayweather will!!!!

[Davro]

lol - Pacquiao would have KOd Naz in one. :lol:

You morons are probably the same ones saying Hatton would KO Pacquiao with a body shot.

When will you realise that Pacquiao in the ring with unguarded chins = KO victims.

Naz would have been one of the easiest fights in Pacquiao's career.

[BURNLEYBLUE]

@ what weight?

[JIM KELLY]

i like naz, but no way! this version of pac, no way!
the pac who fought barrera 1...it would be a toss up but i favour pac.

[slip&counter]

it depends in what stage's of their careers they fought at, hard to think naz beats this version of pacquiao who's improved immeasurably and would fight to the plan to beat naz, the pacquiao of a few years ago (vs morales) was still raw, one handed and a brawler walking into naz's bombs

[DDA365]

Pacquiao now would beat him

pacquaio from a few years ago would make for a great fight, Id guess Pacquaio would get 3 knockdowns maybe even more from catching naz off balance but naz would be able to catch him walking into a huge shot at one point and get the ko

[punchdrunkgench]

pacquaio can adapt to any style that imo is what makes him atg naz may have troubled him for a round or two but wouldnt come close to beating him

[NO MAS]

Lots of people said that Naz would have got sparked by Kelly and they said that MAB would KO him too.... if Naz would have caught Pac Man with a shot at Featherweight it would be :amen

[FLINT ISLAND]

Naz would have sparked out Manny Pac

I really believe so

He was way harder to hit than Hatton

He had a better chin than Hatton

and had the power to break Manny in half

[FLINT ISLAND]

Peak Naz would have sparked out 2009 Hatton in 2 rounds also - even giving the weight away

Hatton has been shot since about 2007 - I suspected so

[Carnage]

Peak Naz would have sparked out 2009 Hatton in 2 rounds also - even giving the weight away

Hatton has been shot since about 2007 - I suspected so
yeah theres a topic of discussion, could Naz beat Hatton at 140??Prime vs prime?

[NO MAS]

Peak Naz would have sparked out 2009 Hatton in 2 rounds also - even giving the weight away

Hatton has been shot since about 2007 - I suspected so

Maybe so.. Hatton's fight against an ageing Kostya Tyzsu was his flag at the top of the mountain for me..... and in the fight I don't think that he started to pull away until the 8th round.....:bbb

[FLINT ISLAND]

Maybe so.. Hatton's fight against an ageing Kostya Tyzsu was his flag at the top of the mountain for me..... and in the fight I don't think that he started to pull away until the 8th round.....:bbb

I agree

sometimes when a fighter has a great winner we always look to the future

but sometimes that fight was their greatest

like when Naz was KO muthafuckers at 21 or 22 we thought think how juch better he be when he is older

but his peak was 21-25

by the time he was 27 he was retiring

Hatton will be best remebered for his Tzyzu win - that night he overachieved :deal

[achillesthegreat]

The old one-two Pac maybe but I'm not sure about this Pac. Pac's more versatile now and better at everything he does. He would be in and out and touching Naz everywhere. The old one dimensional Pac could be beaten and caught with huge shots. Not sure Naz could beat this Pac.

[Tony Bellew]

The old one-two Pac maybe but I'm not sure about this Pac. Pac's more versatile now and better at everything he does. He would be in and out and touching Naz everywhere. The old one dimensional Pac could be beaten and caught with huge shots. Not sure Naz could beat this Pac.


I feel this would be right and both would be hurt at different times of the fight!! I think the 1 punch power of Hamed would certainly pose a threat to Pac Man but in the end I feel Pac Mans fitness would come through and that the pace and tempo would be just a bit too much for Naz:cry:

[John18]

Prince Naz would have beaten Manny Pacquiao

:patsch

Depends if you want to take prime Naz v an inferior version of Pac. If so, I could make a case from Bruno beating Ali.

I think the crucial thing is that Pac would have the speed to get round Naz's very good footwork (which saved him against Barerra IMO).

Naz would always have a punchers chance, but I wouldn't have bet on it.

[Axl_Nose]

This is a great thread. You have an unorthodox fighter like Naz who never proved he could beat a top line fighter against a fighter in Pac who struggles against top line 'boxers' ..
Naz is my favourite British fighter and ive totally defended him in the past but the facts remain that he never beat 1 great opponent.
Manny Pac on the other hand has beaten plenty, but there are still question marks. Pac's first win against Barrera was sensational and really put him on the world map, but i seen him absolutely out fought by Morales in that first fight and totally out-boxed by Marquez in they're first fight ..
Since then he's done a washed up Morales twice, beaten Marquez, Barrera and beaten 'perfect guys for his style' in Diaz and Hatton ..
My heart would like to think Naz could detonate one of his big shots but because he never proved it against a truly great fighter i have to say that Pac would take him out within 10 rounds .. Naz's technical deficiencies would really show up in this fight, but if he was still with Ingle and was relaxed and loose, he could do some damage on Pac ..
But Mayweather is a totally different equation, the talent difference between Naz/Pac and Floyd is huge .. Naz could never beat Mayweather and for me Pac is going to be totally outboxed aswell. People dont like to give Floyd credit because he's so arrogant but his skill as a boxer is up there with the best of all time.
Floyd Mayweather will have a fairly easy night with Pac ..

The 3 best fighters since Sugar Ray Leonard are, in no particular order ..

Floyd Mayweather
Roy Jones Jr
Pernell Whittaker

Thats not even arguable for me, these 3 guys are so far ahead of anybody else in terms of talent, skills and ability that nobody can seriously pick Manny to beat Floyd ....

[Tony Bellew]

The 3 best fighters since Sugar Ray Leonard are, in no particular order ..

Floyd Mayweather
Roy Jones Jr
Pernell Whittaker

Thats not even arguable for me, these 3 guys are so far ahead of anybody else in terms of talent, skills and ability that nobody can seriously pick Manny to beat Floyd ....


I agree with this and the 3 names mentioned above are legends in there own right!!

[Dan684]

Axl Nose - Spot on pal, those 3 are literally light years ahead of anyone else since SRL - Absolutely spot on !

[Axl_Nose]

yeah theres a topic of discussion, could Naz beat Hatton at 140??Prime vs prime?

Pretty interesting fight .. For all Naz's entertaining qualities he never proved he could beat anybody in they're prime especially a dominant guy like Hatton at 140. I prefer Naz but i wouldnt back him to beat Hatton at 140, i seen Naz go to america and look vulnerable and scratchy against guys like Augie Sanchez, Cesar Soto, an old Kelley and a durable McCullough, but none of these guys were 'top line' fighters. Kelley was at his best in the early-mid nineties, he was considered old when Naz fought him .... Its Hatton all the way in this one for me ..

[BURNLEYBLUE]

This is a great thread. You have an unorthodox fighter like Naz who never proved he could beat a top line fighter against a fighter in Pac who struggles against top line 'boxers' ..
Naz is my favourite British fighter and ive totally defended him in the past but the facts remain that he never beat 1 great opponent.
Manny Pac on the other hand has beaten plenty, but there are still question marks. Pac's first win against Barrera was sensational and really put him on the world map, but i seen him absolutely out fought by Morales in that first fight and totally out-boxed by Marquez in they're first fight ..
Since then he's done a washed up Morales twice, beaten Marquez, Barrera and beaten 'perfect guys for his style' in Diaz and Hatton ..
My heart would like to think Naz could detonate one of his big shots but because he never proved it against a truly great fighter i have to say that Pac would take him out within 10 rounds .. Naz's technical deficiencies would really show up in this fight, but if he was still with Ingle and was relaxed and loose, he could do some damage on Pac ..
But Mayweather is a totally different equation, the talent difference between Naz/Pac and Floyd is huge .. Naz could never beat Mayweather and for me Pac is going to be totally outboxed aswell. People dont like to give Floyd credit because he's so arrogant but his skill as a boxer is up there with the best of all time.
Floyd Mayweather will have a fairly easy night with Pac ..

The 3 best fighters since Sugar Ray Leonard are, in no particular order ..

Floyd Mayweather
Roy Jones Jr
Pernell Whittaker

Thats not even arguable for me, these 3 guys are so far ahead of anybody else in terms of talent, skills and ability that nobody can seriously pick Manny to beat Floyd ....
:goodspot on. every word. I would just replace Whittaker with mosely.

[brown bomber]

lol - Pacquiao would have KOd Naz in one. :lol:

You morons are probably the same ones saying Hatton would KO Pacquiao with a body shot.
because it was really outlandish to suggest a fighter who has twice been stopped by bodyshots might get stopped again by a renowned body puncher?!!! LOL get a grip you tit!

[brown bomber]

Yeah like that list axl but I'm tempted to swap whitiker with holyfield

[lito]

it's hard to say. pq has a chin compare to prince naz though the later is a harder puncher that pq. it's just like in the case of pq and hatton many were questioning the chin of pq. in one of blog, i confessed that maybe pq do not have the chin agains hatton's power but how about hatton's chin? pq is too fast for any fighter for that matter and his punchess is as accurate than that of barrera.

[Carnage]

Yeah like that list axl but I'm tempted to swap whitiker with holyfield
don't be

[Carnage]

because it was really outlandish to suggest a fighter who has twice been stopped by bodyshots might get stopped again by a renowned body puncher?!!! LOL get a grip you tit!
:lol:

[zfc]

yeah theres a topic of discussion, could Naz beat Hatton at 140??Prime vs prime?

Ricky would win because he would have the best training camp ever and he would look awesome in training plus he would be too big and powerful.

I know because because Rickys Daddy told me.............Of course if Ricky got knocked out and was made to look a pratt out of his depth Rickys Daddy would blame it on the trainer and say it wasn`t his son in the ring and that the best training camp ever wasn`t the best training camp if his son lost. :lol:

[Carnage]

Ricky would win because he would have the best training camp ever and he would look awesome in training plus he would be too big and powerful.

I know because because Rickys Daddy told me.............Of course if Ricky got knocked out and was made to look a pratt out of his depth Rickys Daddy would blame it on the trainer and say it wasn`t his son in the ring and that the best training camp ever wasn`t the best training camp if his son lost. :lol:
then ricky could get that p4p title...

[icemax]

lol - Pacquiao would have KOd Naz in one. :lol:

You morons are probably the same ones saying Hatton would KO Pacquiao with a body shot.

When will you realise that Pacquiao in the ring with unguarded chins = KO victims.

Naz would have been one of the easiest fights in Pacquiao's career.

What a joker...well done for making my day. Your comment is as stupid as my prediction that Hatton would destroy the Pinoy in 4 :rofl:rofl. Naz at his best would have him, and in some style.

[brown bomber]

Dick Turpin something gives me the impression you don't watch much boxing!

[PaddyD1983]

"Prince Naz would have beaten Manny Pacquiao"

:rofl

[FLINT ISLAND]

"Prince Naz would have beaten Manny Pacquiao"

:rofl

Naz would have sparked him out :bbb


even more laughable is Paddy1983

"Prince Naz was not World Class"

:nut:nut:nut

[rhinocoote]

interesting,definatley would have made buncey's dream fight list!


if it was early in pacs career,then naz would beat him,
as pac is now ,naz would get beaten.that's the beauty with pacman,he learns more and improves with every fight.how much further can he go at his continual rate of improvement?
pretty rare for a boxer to be doing it at this stage of his career?

[Diablo]

Peak Naz would have sparked out 2009 Hatton in 2 rounds also - even giving the weight away

Hatton has been shot since about 2007 - I suspected so

I dont buy this Hatton was shot bs....By that logic Kostya was a walking corpse during their fight.

So it was a prime Hatton that was decked by Magee and was out on his feet vs an ancient Vince Phillips?

Truth is his chin was never that great.

[D_XZ]

Assuming both fighters trained hard I'd have to go with Naz unless the fight was at 140.

Even with the current skill level of Pac he would lose the power to do what he did to Hatton if he dropped all that weight again. There's a reason Roach is keeping him at 140 - Pac is now at his optimum weight but I think Naz would have badly diminished in moving up to 140.

In shape Naz had the speed of Pac and immense KO power. Pac would outbox him but no way would he avoid all Naz's shots. Naz could`take a great shot and was never hurt badly in his entire career. I see it as something like the Naz-Sanchez fight but maybe lasting longer.

The old Pac who actually fought at that weight would get taken out quickly by a crazy Naz uppercut.

At 140 Pac dances around Naz stinging him all night and possibly even stops him

[Primadonna Kool]

People are banging on about Pac as if, he is some kind of Prime Time Roy Jones..

Shane Mosley will end Manny Pac within 3 rounds...

[TFFP]

:rofl

Yeah right.

[Davro]

Dick Turpin something gives me the impression you don't watch much boxing!

What a joker...well done for making my day. Your comment is as stupid as my prediction that Hatton would destroy the Pinoy in 4 :rofl:rofl. Naz at his best would have him, and in some style.

You really are a couple of mugs.

Have we not learnt anything from Naz's fight against a skilled (elite) boxer and Pacquiao's destructive capacity against unskilled defences??

In those circumstances: 1) Naz barely landed a punch, Barerra coasted a points decision 2) Hatton got sent skidding on his backside three times in two rounds.

Hamed wouldn't have got through four rounds with Pacquiao, I'm not going to argue with you because I know I'm right. I predicted Pacquiao to KO Hatton within 3 rounds, whilst most on the British boards went for a bleddy Hatton victory, so pull your heads out of your arses boys. Hamed might as well have had a bullseye painted on his chin, a few combos and hooks from Pac and he would have been going to hospital quicker than Hatton.

[icemax]

Hamed might as well have had a bullseye painted on his chin, a few combos and hooks from Pac and he would have been going to hospital quicker than Hatton.

You really are insane.

[Davro]

well argued (not)

Naz got knocked down three times against Kevin Kelley FFS, what would the hardest and fastest combination puncher do to his hanging chin??

Naz NEVER took a backward step, NEVER protected himself, and v Barrera NEVER landed that one punch he always believed he would land..

Your blind faith in Naz leads to one question - what happened against Barrera? The same Barrera that Pacquiao KOd and also beat on points? Naz couldn't KO everyone, and got humiliated against an elite boxer he couldn't land on. Pacquiao would have been the same, but would have been packing an arsenal of combos to unleash on his unguarded chin.

Pacquiao would have KOd him quickly like Hatton. How on earth you read this fight as a Naz victory is f***ing incredible.

[Carnage]

I feel tension in the air, everyone calm down, close your eyes, think of the ocean, the waves pounding the shore, the warm breeze, yeah, now start touching yourself, yeah thats goooood!

[Jack]

Naz would have sparked out Manny Pac

I really believe so

He was way harder to hit than Hatton

He had a better chin than Hatton

and had the power to break Manny in halfMarquez is A) Better defensively and B) Has a better chin.

Anyway, Pacquiao beats the shit out of Naseem. Hamed is tailor made for a puncher like Pacquiao. This fight does not seen round 4.

[Farmboxer]

It all depends on which Naz we are talking about.

[El Cepillo]

It seems the tendency to overrate/underrate Hamed continues.

At featherweight I would back a prime Hamed to beat Pacquaio. Pac-Man hasn't done much at that weight and Naz was untouchable there for five + years.

Just for the record I think Morales would beat Hamed 9 times out 10. I think if Hamed had 5 fights with Barrera there would probably be a different outcome each time, with both fighters picking up 'L's' & 'W's'.

Depending on the weight, I'd favour Hamed to beat both Pac and JMM.

[ApatheticLeader]

Peak Naz would have sparked out 2009 Hatton in 2 rounds also - even giving the weight away

Hatton has been shot since about 2007 - I suspected so
Ok, that's ridiculous considering he could struggle to put away lesser fighters at times.

[ApatheticLeader]

I actually agree Naz wins - on points, NOT by stoppage. Naz's power wouldn't win the day, but his awkwardness might. At 126 Pac was one-dimensional and predictable, and Naz's chin was good. Then again, I could very, very easily see Naz getting knocked down at least once in the process of winning.

People tend to overrate Naz tbh. Naz was no classier at featherweight than Pacquiao, and a pet hate is when people talk about how good Naz supposedly was earlier in his career (note to people: He was no better - he looked more elusive as he fought fighters who knew less and had slower hands and feet). Naz would beat Pac, but it's merely based on styles. I'm convinced Chris John and Marquez beats Naz, and so does any version of Barrera. But Morales struggles against Naz.

[TFFP]

The comical thing is you have to match up an extremely pre-prime version of Pacquiao at featherweight against a prime Hamed to even make this matchup competitive. Even then I still have to favour Pacquiao in a big way, because he's just as fast, comparable in power but even then had a way superior defence and all-round skills to Hamed. Consider the guys that put Hamed on the floor.

At 130 and beyond when Pacquiao starts to reach his best he is lightyears ahead, that is evident in their performance against comparable levels of opponent.

[robpalmer135]

I dont think Naz would be able to deal with Pacquiou speed. Naz relied on his reaction but even his lightning fast ones are not faster than Mannys hands.

[Flea Man]

The FW version of Manny (wild, one twos, open) would be K.O'd by Naz in about five of a spirited battle.

Naz post-Calvo would've lost widely on points.

[DINAMITA]

Discuss. Would have been a great fight.

It would have been a thriller, but Manny would slash him to ribbons in the end. Naz's non-existent defence was built for Manny.

[Flea Man]

It would have been a thriller, but Manny would slash him to ribbons in the end. Naz's non-existent defence was built for Manny.

At 126 Manny's defence wasn't exactly....well, what it is now.

H2H at FW Pac was not at his best, Naz was. I say Pac is smashing Naz, leaves him,self open, one counter punch later and it's all over.

Only my opinion

[DINAMITA]

At 126 Manny's defence wasn't exactly....well, what it is now.

H2H at FW Pac was not at his best, Naz was. I say Pac is smashing Naz, leaves him,self open, one counter punch later and it's all over.

Only my opinion

Very possible. I'd still back Pac though. If he could obliterate Barrera and (IMO) beat Marquez then he would certainly defeat Naz.

[bb18]

Discuss. Would have been a great fight.
never/ naz was an overrated mouth/manny has class in and out of the ring

[ryan_c]

Pacquiao proved his worth in the elite level of fw when he beat MAB. Naz has not done that. I will pick pacquiao to beat Naz at FW.

[Davro]

At 126 Manny's defence wasn't exactly....well, what it is now.

H2H at FW Pac was not at his best, Naz was. I say Pac is smashing Naz, leaves him,self open, one counter punch later and it's all over.

Only my opinion

well if defence is of prime importance here, at what weight did Naz get his act together?? :lol:

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[Flea Man]

well if defence is of prime importance here, at what weight did Naz get his act together?? :lol:

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That's a moot point, wasn't what I said AT ALL.

Naz has the bigger power at FW.....also, he did used to move a bit more before he realised he was one of the biggest hitters P4P at that time.

Similar to how Tyson used to create oppurtunities for combinations, but ended up winging punches knowing that if he landed he could end the fight.

Watch Naz vs. Barrera and watch Naz vs Steve Robinson. It isn't just the level of opponent that stunts Naz's boxing, and to be honest surely Naz would move away more against a better opponent and be more one-dimensional against a lesser fighter. He was lacklustre post-Kelley IMO.

Between 95-98 the man was a beast, Tom Johnson, Wilfredo Vasquez and Kelley were all good fighters. He also beat Medina back when Manuel was still decent, yet people, like with Hatton now, think he just bluffed his way through all the fights he won and was shown to be a sham as soon as he moved up.

Maybe Barrera was a good fighter, no? Pac lost to Morales the first time (winning gloves or not) I know it's crazy, but sometimes boxers lose.

Pac vs. Naz could be debated until the end, I just think Pac's overzealousness when he had an opponent hurt would be his downfall, as Naz would go down when he wasn't hurt due to being off-balance, and IMO would still have his wits about him when Pac steamed in for the kill.

ONLY MY OPINION, which in the great scheme of things means fuck all but for a fantasy fight is just as valid as anyone else's in my view :good

[beecho1988]

Pacman KO

[p.Townend]

He would given Pac a lot of problems,and it would have been great to watch.I think a prime Naz would have been able to win this fight!