View Full Version : Who is the King of Picking on Smaller Guys?
Thread Stealer
08-30-2007, 11:56 AM
Rocky Graziano?
PH|LLA
08-30-2007, 11:56 AM
Hopkins
But they are the morons who come looking for him
Thread Stealer
08-30-2007, 11:56 AM
Big heavyweights like Carnera, Lewis, Klitschko, etc...fighting other smaller heavyweights do not count.
BewareofDawg
08-30-2007, 11:58 AM
Hopkins.
His biggest wins are against Trinidad, Delahoya and Winky....enough said.
Thread Stealer
08-30-2007, 12:01 PM
Hopkins.
His biggest wins are against Trinidad, Delahoya and Winky....enough said.
I consider the Tarver win his 2nd best win behind the Tito one.
Dr Gonzo
08-30-2007, 12:01 PM
Taylor is pretty good at it
BewareofDawg
08-30-2007, 12:04 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl
"Wright TKO 10" :lol:
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Not my finest moment! :D
BewareofDawg
08-30-2007, 12:05 PM
And Tarver :hi:
Tarver sucks! An out of shape Tarver Sucks Worse! An out of shape Tarver who thinks he's a movie star is "tits on a bull"! :deal
KO byBRIGGS
08-30-2007, 12:08 PM
#1 Wladamir klitschko!
BewareofDawg
08-30-2007, 12:08 PM
No he's not :lol:
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
He was just aiming a little too high. I'm sure he would've had more success calling out WWs :deal
BewareofDawg
08-30-2007, 12:09 PM
#1 Wladamir klitschko!
He's a HEAVYWEIGHT who has fought HEAVYWEIGHTS :patsch
KO byBRIGGS
08-30-2007, 12:11 PM
Most of Wlads opponents are either far shorter/less reach or much lighter Byrd was only 213lbs. He likes fighting the small guys.
KO byBRIGGS
08-30-2007, 12:13 PM
Funny, if you put Wlad into this category I think it's safe to say your mom got owned by a smaller man in Ibragimov. He lost no doubt but the way he fought that fight was like a scared man. If that fight had to end by KO then Briggs would have won. Sultan never hurt him and was afraid to stay near him for more than 10 seconds.
Without blown up fighters, who were ineffective at that weight, Hopkins would have a "decent" resume, considering his losses. Sadly, because he beat fighters who the media hyped up, fans think he beat tough opposition.
He didn't.
I hope he goes down as a guy who was beaten twice by a guy who struggled with Spinks, rather than someone who beat several ATG's.
Hopkins is one of those fighters whose resume does them more justice than their talent. The opposite of a guy like Larry Holmes, maybe.
Zakman
08-30-2007, 12:14 PM
Jermain Taylor is well on his way to making a career out of it. Too bad for him he's got to fight Pavlik next, otherwise he could continue picking on little guys for who knows how long - even if he didn't win, HBO would be sure to get him the nod, just like they've been doing! :yep
Less than a month to go to the KTFO. Goodnight HBO hype job. Bye, bye Gift Decision. :nod :lol:
Illmatic
08-30-2007, 12:21 PM
Marvin Hagler
Marvin Hagler
Hagler beat fighters who weren't C/D-class at that weight though :good
thewoo
08-30-2007, 12:33 PM
I gotta agree with Jermain Taylor. It's true that he has had some tough fights so he deserves full credit for that but that does not change the fact that he has fought moslty smaller guys his whole career. I count count winky because he was always a big supermiddle and had a few fights unmder his belt at 160.
Cory Spinks - Former 147 fighter first fight at middle
Kassim Ouma - Former 154 first fight at middle
Raul Marquez - Former 154 first fight at middle
Alex Bunema - Former 154 first and last fight at middle
Rogelio Martinez - Fomer 154 first fight at middle
I could go on and on but over half his resume is made up of guys either making their middleweight debut or with only a fight or 2 at middleweight
Thread Stealer
08-30-2007, 12:51 PM
I also nominate Terry Norris, one of my favorites.
Oscar also gets a nomination, but at least he fought bigger guys as well as smaller guys moving up.
TBooze
08-30-2007, 12:53 PM
Butterbean;)
Fab2333
08-30-2007, 01:25 PM
Tarver sucks! An out of shape Tarver Sucks Worse! An out of shape Tarver who thinks he's a movie star is "tits on a bull"! :deal:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
Chiko_Tech
08-30-2007, 01:36 PM
Valuev is the best at that.
Chiko_Tech
08-30-2007, 01:37 PM
Ivan Calderon
sandwichsurgeon
08-30-2007, 01:45 PM
Some of the larger Welterweights are taking advantage of the 24 hour weigh-in a little too liberally if you ask me, Judah looked like a toothpick next to cotto and some of the taller ones are just taking the piss with the amount of weight they put on over night.
Fab2333
08-30-2007, 02:04 PM
Butterbean;) good1
Thread Stealer
08-30-2007, 02:10 PM
Some of the larger Welterweights are taking advantage of the 24 hour weigh-in a little too liberally if you ask me, Judah looked like a toothpick next to cotto and some of the taller ones are just taking the piss with the amount of weight they put on over night.
I was thinking more about guys who fought others moving up, as the list for guys who liberally use the 24 (more like 32) hour procedure would be too long.
Still, Arturo Gatti gets a lifetime nomination for "making" 141 against Gamache and then outweighing Joey by 16 lbs in that debacle.
jecxbox
08-30-2007, 03:31 PM
Bernard Hopkins without a doubt.
Motor City Sam
08-30-2007, 06:21 PM
Ivan Calderon
I laughed out loud at that. :lol:
Thread Stealer
08-30-2007, 06:34 PM
Rocky Graziano?
I was doing some boxrecing and this is what I came up with.
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TKO 2 Bernie Miller, Rocky outweighed him 154 to 145.5
TKO 4 Bummy Davis, Rocky outweighed him 151.75 to 146 (not really that much by that era's standards)
Two 10th round stoppages of Red Cochrane, considered to be his best KOs according to The Ring's Top 100 Punchers Issue. Rocky outweighed him 153 to 142.75 and 154 to 145.
TKO 2 of Marty Servo, Rocky outweighed Servo 152 to 144.5
KO 2 of Bobby Claus, Rocky outweighed Bobby 159.75 to 149.
TKO 10 of Charley Fusari, Rocky outweighed him 159.5 to 147.5
KO 1 of Joe Curcio, Rocky weighed 162.25 and Joe was 153.5
Draw with Tony Janiro, Rocky weighed 159.75 and Tony 152.75. He beat Janior later 2x, with 4.5 and 6 pounds on him in each bout.
Graziano is the winner for now.
psychopath
08-30-2007, 06:50 PM
Who is the King of Picking on Smaller Guys?
I'll be damn . . . who could beat Valuev on this?
:rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :D
Motor City Sam
08-30-2007, 07:11 PM
I am always amused by the people who criticize Hopkins for fighting guys who came up in weight and excuse Hagler for doing the same thing. Especially when you look at the results: Hagler lost to Leonard and was rocked by Hearns before winning by KO. Hopkins, at a more advanced age, KO'd both Tito and Oscar and was never close to being hurt in either fight.
He Hate Me
08-30-2007, 07:13 PM
Hopkins.
His biggest wins are against Trinidad, Delahoya and Winky....enough said.
agree.
El Bombasto
08-30-2007, 08:18 PM
I consider the Tarver win his 2nd best win behind the Tito one.
i don't see how beating that overrated bum can be considered an accomplishment
Vantage_West
08-30-2007, 08:21 PM
im going to dip into bad water ere but what about ray robinson. most wins are fighting 5'8 5'7 welters...just a thought
but these were very very good small guys i admit
psychopath
08-30-2007, 08:22 PM
I am always amused by the people who criticize Hopkins for fighting guys who came up in weight and excuse Hagler for doing the same thing. Especially when you look at the results: Hagler lost to Leonard and was rocked by Hearns before winning by KO. Hopkins, at a more advanced age, KO'd both Tito and Oscar and was never close to being hurt in either fight.
Ha . . . ha . . . ha . . . good one! :good
Hatred blnds them all. :D :lol:
El Bombasto
08-30-2007, 08:32 PM
Big heavyweights like Carnera, Lewis, Klitschko, etc...fighting other smaller heavyweights do not count.
exactly, small guys (225ish) that choose to fight at heavyweight deserve to get their asses kicked
sues2nd
09-01-2007, 03:51 AM
And Tarver :hi:
And Johnson....:lol:
Bigcat
09-01-2007, 06:19 AM
A lot of heavyweights fight listless amounts of cruiserweights on the way up..
Cuban Jorge luis Gonzalez is one..
bulakenyo
09-01-2007, 06:49 AM
Cotto, Hearns and a 122lbs Erik Morales maybe?
koko of phil
09-01-2007, 10:56 AM
Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins
At least that moniker fits for slaughtering helpless oppositions. :yep
sandwichsurgeon
09-01-2007, 11:25 AM
Haye has got quite bad since he is building himself into a HW and has to drain himself so much to make weight.
PH|LLA
09-01-2007, 11:28 AM
Hopkins.
His biggest wins are against Trinidad, Delahoya and Winky....enough said.
what about moving up 2 divisions and demolishing the ring champion?
What about beating a prime undeafeated Glen Johnson?
the whooping he layed out on Joppy?
hater
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