Does Floyd really want to be the best? I sure hope so.

[PR Boxing Lore]

Do you really think tha Floyd is going to take the winner of Cotto-Mosley if either one of them wins in convincing fashion? Or do you think if the fight is close that he will let them get a rematch so they can beat themselves up a little more?

[Ramshall1]

he'll probably rematch Baldomir.

[PR Boxing Lore]

:lol: he'll probably rematch Baldomir.
:lol: :lol:

[unclepaulie]

hes gonna retire for the 19th time

[BigReg]

Do you really think tha Floyd is going to take the winner of Cotto-Mosley if either one of them wins in convincing fashion? Or do you think if the fight is close that he will let them get a rematch so they can beat themselves up a little more?

What do you mean let them get a rematch? The better question is whether either one of them will fight Floyd if they win. Will Shane step up to the plate or will he get another toothache? Will Cotto acctept the challenge or will he just let his promoter make all the decisions for him?

[Stinky gloves]

he'll probably rematch Baldomir.

Only if Baldo comes back to WW, he is no draw at 156 lb :-(

[PR Boxing Lore]

What do you mean let them get a rematch? The better question is whether either one of them will fight Floyd if they win. Will Shane step up to the plate or will he get another toothache? Will Cotto acctept the challenge or will he just let his promoter make all the decisions for him?
That is true, I hope everyone steps up to the plate!:D

[GazOC]

hes gonna retire for the 19th time

38-1:good

[Thread Stealer]

I have my doubts Mayweather and Cotto will fight provided they win their next fights.

For one, Floyd and Arum don't have the best relationship. Floyd's gonna demand the lion's share of the purse, is Arum gonna agree to give him so much?

Another thing is GBP. GBP makes no money off of Mayweather-Cotto. Oscar may want to fight Cotto on Cinco De Mayo. Oscar can say his wife won't let him fight a Boricua, but $30 million plus can easily have you change your mind. If you're in Cotto's camp, what do you pick? Mayweather for less money or Oscar for more $$$. Gee, that's a tough one. :roll:

There's always the question about weight, though.

[brooklyn1550]

38-1:good

I hope so, but I see him 39-0 after December 8th

As far as Floyd wanting to be the best, I think he does, and I expect him to continue facing the best: Mosley/Cotto winner, Williams, maybe Cintron if he continues winning, Vernon Forrest, etc.

He can't resist money and he can't resist adding onto his legacy with all of the great potential fights for him.

[brooklyn1550]

I just don't see Vernon Forrest on Floyds list of future opponents

Not right away, but if Vernon Forrest keeps winning and adds another belt at 154, I could see Floyd moving back up to face him. But Vernon would be a real tough matchup, so I don't really know.

[brooklyn1550]

Well yeah if Vernon keeps winning but Vernons future is not too promising with all of the injuries ect ect

You're probably right. He's not a young man and his shoulder may not hold up too well

[PR Boxing Lore]

I have my doubts Mayweather and Cotto will fight provided they win their next fights.

For one, Floyd and Arum don't have the best relationship. Floyd's gonna demand the lion's share of the purse, is Arum gonna agree to give him so much?

Another thing is GBP. GBP makes no money off of Mayweather-Cotto. Oscar may want to fight Cotto on Cinco De Mayo. Oscar can say his wife won't let him fight a Boricua, but $30 million plus can easily have you change your mind. If you're in Cotto's camp, what do you pick? Mayweather for less money or Oscar for more $$$. Gee, that's a tough one. :roll:

There's always the question about weight, though.
Those are some good points,but if Cotto does beat Mosley in a brutal way I doubt that DLH would want to fight him, then again MONEY can change everything,but I still think he would go for an easier fight with a big name.I think he would want to close his carrer with a sure win.

[Alo2006]

38-1:good

Wishful thinking :lol:

[Sug3]

I have my doubts Mayweather and Cotto will fight provided they win their next fights.

For one, Floyd and Arum don't have the best relationship. Floyd's gonna demand the lion's share of the purse, is Arum gonna agree to give him so much?

Another thing is GBP. GBP makes no money off of Mayweather-Cotto. Oscar may want to fight Cotto on Cinco De Mayo. Oscar can say his wife won't let him fight a Boricua, but $30 million plus can easily have you change your mind. If you're in Cotto's camp, what do you pick? Mayweather for less money or Oscar for more $$$. Gee, that's a tough one. :roll:

There's always the question about weight, though.


After the mosley fight,cotto will be demaged mentally,he's gonna take a worse beating then trinidad,what is it about us brotha's humiliating these pr's,leonard vs benitez,hopkins vs trinidad and now mosley will end the cotto era.

Not being racist,but u can take it how u want,truth hurt's.

[DanePugilist]

Facing Oscar, was the first step in the right direction. Going against Hatton is the next step. The right thing to do would be to meet the winner of Cotto-Mosley, that is if he beats Hatton.

[Sug3]

Facing Oscar, was the first step in the right direction. Going against Hatton is the next step. The right thing to do would be to meet the winner of Cotto-Mosley, that is if he beats Hatton.

If mosley wins too impressive,floyd wont fight him,because floyd is expecting it to be a war,so that mosley wont be a 100% when they fight,by the way i have the hitman trilogy,very good game and i can't wait till the new gta comes out,because,it's gonna be in new york,imagine the soundtrack.

[JAM Killer]

Floyd wants to be the highest paid. That is it.

[Sug3]

Floyd wants to be the highest paid. That is it.

It's ashame that a fighter with floyd's great skills want's more fame instead of glory.

[brownshell]

Idiot!

Floyd is already the BEST!!!!

[Illmatic]

It's ashame that a fighter with floyd's great skills want's more fame instead of glory.

I know! How dare he fight a top ten p4p fighter, when he could fight an interim titlist instead...what a fag.

[C Money]

If Cotto somehow KO's SSM?? Fucking Floyd's name will change to Carl Lewis or Jesse Owens:good Conversely, If SSM KO's or widely UD's Cotto?? Oh, he'll go on vacation/retirement again for a year and THEN make the fight date so that it happens almost 2 years later. To ensure SSM wont be the same.

I commend Floyd for Hatton, and hope that Floyd has indeed learned from the criticism surrounding his not of facing the top opponents. It's the only way he'll achieve the legacy he desires. The sad fact remains that Floyd has left top opponents on the table AT EVERY WEIGHT CLASS!!! With Hatton, it's the first time he can say he fought the clear best, but he's technically still NOT DOING IT AT 140.

We shall see how it goes. The truth will be OBVIOUS and not fighting the winner of SSM vs Cotto and or P. Williams at 47 will simply illustrate the same MO that's been his from the beginning. That aint P4P and DAMN SURE ISNT THE GOAT!!!

Unify or clean out 47 and make a real and genuine statement for the first time!!!!!!!!!:happy

[pipe wrenched]

I know! How dare he fight a top ten p4p fighter, when he could fight an interim titlist instead...what a fag.

:lol: You've been crackin me up lately Illmatic.

[Illmatic]

:lol: You've been crackin me up lately Illmatic.

:DIm tryin to step my game up

[PR Boxing Lore]

Idiot!

Floyd is already the BEST!!!!
Real funny!:lol:

[PR Boxing Lore]

After the mosley fight,cotto will be demaged mentally,he's gonna take a worse beating then trinidad,what is it about us brotha's humiliating these pr's,leonard vs benitez,hopkins vs trinidad and now mosley will end the cotto era.

Not being racist,but u can take it how u want,truth hurt's.
I think you are the one who is mentally damaged ,you don't even know how to write.:lol:

[Dorfmeister]

There is no doubt in my mind that Floyd Mayweather Jr., for whom all the respect in the World is due, wants to keep his record clean and his P4P top rating and that, somehow, goes against facing a dangerous challenger such as the winner of the WBA Championship bout. Floyd already proved that he wants nothing with Shane so he wants to see if Cotto can take some years outa him and make him grow old and weary overnight. The Final word should be given by Jose Suleiman but since he has given Floyd WBC Super Welter Champion emeritus status, I don't think he'll force him to face either WBC interim welter Champion Mosley or WBA welter titlist Cotto.

[Illmatic]

After the mosley fight,cotto will be demaged mentally,he's gonna take a worse beating then trinidad,what is it about us brotha's humiliating these pr's,leonard vs benitez,hopkins vs trinidad and now mosley will end the cotto era.

Not being racist,but u can take it how u want,truth hurt's.

Not being racist, but whats with these PRs humiliatin the brothas?

Trinidad: Whitaker, Carr, Blocker, Reid, Joppy (despite him being black himself)
Cotto: Bailey, Judah, Corley, Ndou
Ruiz: Holyfield, Rahman
Camacho: Howard Davis Jr, Leonard
Benitez: Maurice Hope, Antonio Cervantez (despite being black himself)

not being racist, but u can take it how u want, truth hurt's (notice my use of an apostrophe...I guess it means "truth hurt is")

[PR Boxing Lore]

Not being racist, but whats with these PRs humiliatin the brothas?

Trinidad: Whitaker, Carr, Blocker, Reid, Joppy (despite him being black himself)
Cotto: Bailey, Judah, Corley, Ndou
Ruiz: Holyfield, Rahman
Camacho: Howard Davis Jr, Leonard
Benitez: Maurice Hope, Antonio Cervantez (despite being black himself)

not being racist, but u can take it how u want, truth hurt's (notice my use of an apostrophe...I guess it means "truth hurt is")
:lol: :happy

[Ramshall1]

Sug3, please stop race baiting.

[PR Boxing Lore]

Sug3, please stop race baiting.
Listen to the man!:D

[Toopretty]

Man Mayweather has already done more in boxing then guys that are praised higher then him without doing half of what he has done. Like TSYU etc. etc. Floyd had a great career already. Now is just extra. Now its just going after all time rankings. Its just icing on the cake. He is fighting Hatton, next probably Cotto or god forbid ODH again. Anyway you slice it. If he whoops Hatton then he is one more fight closer to being the MAN of the current generation.

[BigReg]

Mayweather beat the best at 135 but it seems like he's been cherry picking ever since . This fight with Hatton should be his first real challenge since Castillo I think !

I'm going to have to disagree. After he beat Gatti(who was the number 2 JWW at the time), he went after Hatton and Cotto, and was turned down. He then went after Winky, but Winky only wanted to fight if it was a 50/50 split. He then turned his attention to Judah(who was the undisputed WW champ at the time) and was turned down. He fought Mitchell, then signed to fight Judah(who was still the undisputed WW champ at this time). After beating Judah, he went after Mosley and was turned down, and then fought the recognized WW champ. After that he fought DLH, who was the best JMW at the time. The only legitimate contender who he didn't try to fight was Margarito.

[C Money]

I'm going to have to disagree. After he beat Gatti(who was the number 2 JWW at the time), he went after Hatton and Cotto, and was turned down. He then went after Winky, but Winky only wanted to fight if it was a 50/50 split. He then turned his attention to Judah(who was the undisputed WW champ at the time) and was turned down. He fought Mitchell, then signed to fight Judah(who was still the undisputed WW champ at this time). After beating Judah, he went after Mosley and was turned down, and then fought the recognized WW champ. After that he fought DLH, who was the best JMW at the time. The only legitimate contender who he didn't try to fight was Margarito.

:lol: :lol:

WOW!!! Went AFTER WINKY?? Y4ah...:lol: Then after Wright was willing?? Floyd tucked tail and ran. That BS was all publicity stunt to deflect attention away from Floyd's cherry picking and it BACKFIRED!!!


How many times Floyd defended that 47 Title?? Hmmm???:rofl

The Hatton offers were BULLSHIT and turned down because of Hatton's promotional situation. Evidence TODAY!! Hatton isnt scared:nono

SSM? Gee, i suppose the ongoing discussions with DLH/GBP had nothing to do with turning down the "offer":rofl :rofl

All Floyd fans got is excuse after excuse!!

Lets see SUPALIPS lay it down at 47!!! Stop serving up BS and make the fights. Hey he finally did it with Hatton, so hopefully he'll continue!!
We already know that Floyd Groupies will continue to perpetrate bullshit as truth, but the PROOF?? Well, that happens inside the ropes when the bell rings.:good

[JC2006]

:bbb :lol: :lol:

WOW!!! Went AFTER WINKY?? Y4ah...:lol: Then after Wright was willing?? Floyd tucked tail and ran. That BS was all publicity stunt to deflect attention away from Floyd's cherry picking and it BACKFIRED!!!


How many times Floyd defended that 47 Title?? Hmmm???:rofl

The Hatton offers were BULLSHIT and turned down because of Hatton's promotional situation. Evidence TODAY!! Hatton isnt scared:nono

SSM? Gee, i suppose the ongoing discussions with DLH/GBP had nothing to do with turning down the "offer":rofl :rofl

All Floyd fans got is excuse after excuse!!

Lets see SUPALIPS lay it down at 47!!! Stop serving up BS and make the fights. Hey he finally did it with Hatton, so hopefully he'll continue!!
We already know that Floyd Groupies will continue to perpetrate bullshit as truth, but the PROOF?? Well, that happens inside the ropes when the bell rings.:good

What the fuck are you yapping about?

[BigReg]

:lol: :lol:

WOW!!! Went AFTER WINKY?? Y4ah...:lol: Then after Wright was willing?? Floyd tucked tail and ran. That BS was all publicity stunt to deflect attention away from Floyd's cherry picking and it BACKFIRED!!!


How many times Floyd defended that 47 Title?? Hmmm???:rofl

The Hatton offers were BULLSHIT and turned down because of Hatton's promotional situation. Evidence TODAY!! Hatton isnt scared:nono

SSM? Gee, i suppose the ongoing discussions with DLH/GBP had nothing to do with turning down the "offer":rofl :rofl

All Floyd fans got is excuse after excuse!!

Lets see SUPALIPS lay it down at 47!!! Stop serving up BS and make the fights. Hey he finally did it with Hatton, so hopefully he'll continue!!
We already know that Floyd Groupies will continue to perpetrate bullshit as truth, but the PROOF?? Well, that happens inside the ropes when the bell rings.:good

Sorry buddy, but he did go after Winky. Arum offered Wright a 55/45 split and Winky said he would only do it for 50/50. I'm not saying Winky ducked him, but he did turn down the fight. I have no doubt that Mosely turned down the offer to fight Floyd because of his relationship with DLH, but that still doesn't change the fact that he turned down the fight. You certainly can't blame Floyd for the fight not happening.

[C Money]

Sorry buddy, but he did go after Winky. Arum offered Wright a 55/45 split and Winky said he would only do it for 50/50. I'm not saying Winky ducked him, but he did turn down the fight. I have no doubt that Mosely turned down the offer to fight Floyd because of his relationship with DLH, but that still doesn't change the fact that he turned down the fight. You certainly can't blame Floyd for the fight not happening.

Floyd backed out refusing to the financial terms, not the other way around. No one in the whole world expected PBF to make such an offer in the first place. Floyd was at 40 calling out a UNIFIED 54 Champ. At first, the world and Winky regarded it as a joke, but when Winky came to the table Floyd backed out. Why in the hell shouldnt Wright have gotten 50?? WHO THE FUCK WAS FLOYD TO CALL THE SHOTS??? He wasnt and turned tail because he realized Wright would actually make the fight, so he made a ridiculous money stipulation as a way out. He knew goddamn well Wright wouldnt take short money after beating SSM TWICE!! As it is wright moved up and beat Trinidad.

SSM?? He couldnt take the offer do to the DLH situation and timing. Floyd wanted to fight DLH since 135 and made that BS as a distraction and negoitiating tool. Tell me Shane hasnt been expressing his desire since?? Better yet? IF SSM beats Cotto?? Let Floyd make another offer, I GUARANTEE IT WONT BE TURNED DOWN:good

I blame Floyd and groupies for talking like BS offers are excuses and ways out of fighting the best!! It aint OVER!! Let Floyd stop talking of BS offers and make fights, just as he has FINALLY DONE WITH HATTON:good

[C Money]

:bbb

What the fuck are you yapping about?


Can you read???

Who the hell are you to be yapping at me with ridiculous one line BS?

Got something to say, SAY IT!!

[BigReg]

Floyd backed out refusing to the financial terms, not the other way around. No one in the whole world expected PBF to make such an offer in the first place. Floyd was at 40 calling out a UNIFIED 54 Champ. At first, the world and Winky regarded it as a joke, but when Winky came to the table Floyd backed out. Why in the hell shouldnt Wright have gotten 50?? WHO THE FUCK WAS FLOYD TO CALL THE SHOTS??? He wasnt and turned tail because he realized Wright would actually make the fight, so he made a ridiculous money stipulation as a way out. He knew goddamn well Wright wouldnt take short money after beating SSM TWICE!! As it is wright moved up and beat Trinidad.

SSM?? He couldnt take the offer do to the DLH situation and timing. Floyd wanted to fight DLH since 135 and made that BS as a distraction and negoitiating tool. Tell me Shane hasnt been expressing his desire since?? Better yet? IF SSM beats Cotto?? Let Floyd make another offer, I GUARANTEE IT WONT BE TURNED DOWN:good

I blame Floyd and groupies for talking like BS offers are excuses and ways out of fighting the best!! It aint OVER!! Let Floyd stop talking of BS offers and make fights, just as he has FINALLY DONE WITH HATTON:good

Once again, I don't blame Winky for wanting a 50/50 split, however Arum saw Floyd as the bigger draw and made 55/45 offer. I see no good reason for Floyd to call out Winky if had no intention fighting him. Back to the Shane fight, I'm not trying to dog Shane, but you can't call Floyd a cherry picker when he attempts to fight top contenders and they have excuses for not fighting him. Floyd can't sit around and wait for everyone else to sort out their personal issues. Shane was available in November, so was Floyd. Shane decided his business relationship with Oscar was more important than a fight with Floyd at the time, not Floyd's fault.

[Toopretty]

Floyd backed out refusing to the financial terms, not the other way around. No one in the whole world expected PBF to make such an offer in the first place. Floyd was at 40 calling out a UNIFIED 54 Champ. At first, the world and Winky regarded it as a joke, but when Winky came to the table Floyd backed out. Why in the hell shouldnt Wright have gotten 50?? WHO THE FUCK WAS FLOYD TO CALL THE SHOTS??? He wasnt and turned tail because he realized Wright would actually make the fight, so he made a ridiculous money stipulation as a way out. He knew goddamn well Wright wouldnt take short money after beating SSM TWICE!! As it is wright moved up and beat Trinidad.

SSM?? He couldnt take the offer do to the DLH situation and timing. Floyd wanted to fight DLH since 135 and made that BS as a distraction and negoitiating tool. Tell me Shane hasnt been expressing his desire since?? Better yet? IF SSM beats Cotto?? Let Floyd make another offer, I GUARANTEE IT WONT BE TURNED DOWN:good

I blame Floyd and groupies for talking like BS offers are excuses and ways out of fighting the best!! It aint OVER!! Let Floyd stop talking of BS offers and make fights, just as he has FINALLY DONE WITH HATTON:good

Hey Cmoney..Us so called Floyd groupies must of got you very upset..You are attacking at bullshit stuff now...I admit Floyd was talking out of his ass calling out Winky and that no way could the fight possibley happen unless it was at a catch weight of 150-152 to be fair. You dont step up and fight the biggest in size and talent 154 guy that was fighting at middleweight and be taken seriously. Winky did refuse the purse even though it was probably 60-40 for Floyd.. Winky is known for this...if the money is not right he will not fight..Margarito called out Winky then backed down saying "I am not a middleweight" and bullshitting Arum claimed Winky was avoiding him(being the promoter he is) but anyway..:admin

[C Money]

Once again, I don't blame Winky for wanting a 50/50 split, however Arum saw Floyd as the bigger draw and made 55/45 offer. I see no good reason for Floyd to call out Winky if had no intention fighting him. Back to the Shane fight, I'm not trying to dog Shane, but you can't call Floyd a cherry picker when he attempts to fight top contenders and they have excuses for not fighting him. Floyd can't sit around and wait for everyone else to sort out their personal issues. Shane was available in November, so was Floyd. Shane decided his business relationship with Oscar was more important than a fight with Floyd at the time, not Floyd's fault.

Winky wasnt a REAL ATTEMPT:nono Floyd, in NO WAY had any right or place in demanding a larger purse %!!! At the time, he wasnt even(nor was he ever) 140 Champ. Calling out a UNIFIED(something else floyd's never been) Champ at 54 who was ready to move to 60 and get a bigger payday. Winky's camp made a counter offer, Floyd's team didnt want to hear it and Wink rightfully said FUCK IT, I've got more profitable and equally respectable tasks ahead.

You cant claim that "offers" made under BS circumstances are LEGIT!! Mosley wasnt a real offer while DLH negoitiations were going on. There was NO CHANCE IN HELL OF IT BEING ACCEPTED AND TEAM MAYWEATHER KNEW THAT!!! So, it's BULLSHIT!! Same for Hatton with the ****** situation. Shane decided:lol: :lol: :lol: NO SHIT!!

BS offers MEAN NOT A GODDAMN THING!! They are in no way an indication of Floyd attempting to fight the best. They are smokescreens and publicity stunts designed to shape perception and give Floyd fans somethin cute to say. Too bad it falls apart under any reasonable scrutiny.

The bottomline? None of that shit means that the fights against SSM and Cotto cant be made!! The Hatton fight is EVIDENCE of just that very thing. Stop hiding behind shit and using it as excuses!! make the fights and SHOW THE WORLD and his critics that Floyd is INDEED the king:good

[C Money]

Hey Cmoney..Us so called Floyd groupies must of got you very upset..You are attacking at bullshit stuff now...I admit Floyd was talking out of his ass calling out Winky and that no way could the fight possibley happen unless it was at a catch weight of 150-152 to be fair. You dont step up and fight the biggest in size and talent 154 guy that was fighting at middleweight and be taken seriously. Winky did refuse the purse even though it was probably 60-40 for Floyd.. Winky is known for this...if the money is not right he will not fight..Margarito called out Winky then backed down saying "I am not a middleweight" and bullshitting Arum claimed Winky was avoiding him(being the promoter he is) but anyway..:admin

Substituting BS for TRUTH gets me upset:good The fact that Floyd groupies are the ones most often responsible?? Is what it is!!!

As for attacking BS stuff?? Big Reg brought it up!! Claiming that PBF "went after" Wright:nono It was all publicty stunt !!!

Promoters?? Man, i aint defending Arum or whomever, i'm strictly speaking on the twists of reality that Floyd fans attempt to throw out. Winky had every right to 50%, if not 55 or 60!!! He was the man, floyd wasnt, but insists on getting more:rofl :rofl :rofl

As for Floyd?? Hey, if he really fights the best and wins? I'll respect it and give him credit:good I wont accept the lies, BS, and fantasies of his fans in lieu of PROOF:nono :nono :nono

[DanePugilist]

If mosley wins too impressive,floyd wont fight him,because floyd is expecting it to be a war,so that mosley wont be a 100% when they fight,by the way i have the hitman trilogy,very good game and i can't wait till the new gta comes out,because,it's gonna be in new york,imagine the soundtrack.If Cotto wins impressively could make PBF hesitant to take the fight, but we dont know, I am just fairly happy that he finally has decided to step it up again.

Hitman is great, its a danish game, but it was only recently I tried it out.

GTA has great soundtracks and its fun to roam about being cruel - I loved the fact that Slayer was featured in GTA 3.

[Biggame]

I wish ppl would get over the Floyd ducked Winky story. No such thing happened:nono

Floyd made the offer, and Winky said no. I don't think 55/45 is a bad offer especially since Winky was still making big money. Floyd was and still is the bigger name. Floyd never said no to Winky, it was the other way around. Most ppl don't even know the story. They just take bits and pieces from all over. Winky and his manager were on totally opposite sides during this. Winky was urged to take the deal, but insisted on it being 50/50. The funny thing is 55/45 isn't an offensive offer at all. 60/40 hardly is, but Winky felt offended, while his manager was telling him to take the deal. Shaw put a deal out there in which Winky again shot it down. If you want to place blame place it on Winky. He was the only one who was killing the fight w/his own inflated status of himself! Hell...maybe he didn't want to fight and that's what it was. You guys get on here and like Winky called Floyd's bluff, but it never happened. The offer was there, and it was for big money for both fighters(Money Winky don't normally see) Winky said no!

C-money...if you bring more money to the table you get more money bottom line. Winky was the man at 154lbs, but in no way was he getting more money than Floyd for that fight, not then, not now!!:nono It was a real attempt, with a real offer, and Winky said no not the other way around! The offer wasn't obsurd, and like I said...maybe it was Winky who didn't want the fight. That can easily be said since it was only him who was at odds w/the deal!!!

[C Money]

I wish ppl would get over the Floyd ducked Winky story. No such thing happened:nono

Floyd made the offer, and Winky said no. I don't think 55/45 is a bad offer especially since Winky was still making big money. Floyd was and still is the bigger name. Floyd never said no to Winky, it was the other way around. Most ppl don't even know the story. They just take bits and pieces from all over. Winky and his manager were on totally opposite sides during this. Winky was urged to take the deal, but insisted on it being 50/50. The funny thing is 55/45 isn't an offensive offer at all. 60/40 hardly is, but Winky felt offended, while his manager was telling him to take the deal. Shaw put a deal out there in which Winky again shot it down. If you want to place blame place it on Winky. He was the only one who was killing the fight w/his own inflated status of himself! Hell...maybe he didn't want to fight and that's what it was. You guys get on here and like Winky called Floyd's bluff, but it never happened. The offer was there, and it was for big money for both fighters(Money Winky don't normally see) Winky said no!

C-money...if you bring more money to the table you get more money bottom line. Winky was the man at 154lbs, but in no way was he getting more money than Floyd for that fight, not then, not now!!:nono It was a real attempt, with a real offer, and Winky said no not the other way around! The offer wasn't obsurd, and like I said...maybe it was Winky who didn't want the fight. That can easily be said since it was only him who was at odds w/the deal!!!

WRONG!!!!

At first Wright and the rest of the world was like, yeah sure OK,,, floyd wants tof fight me:lol: Then as Lipweather continued to press it?? wright said OK, you want it, lets do it. After Wright became willing Floyd insisted on the higher percentage, WHICH IS/WAS BS!! floyd wasnt even Champ at 40 calling out a unified and legit Champ on his way to fights with trinidad and taylor and had beaten SSM TWICE. Just because floyd fans claim he's P4P means NOTHING!!!! Floyd IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER HAD ANY RIGHT TO A HIGHER %:nono :nono :nono :nono

Wright's team had a principal agreement and arum changed the agreement, BECAUSE HE KNEW DAMN WELL, that it was a publicity STUNT!! Winky would have looked like an ASS if he insisted beyond that point as he would have been the big guy, picking on the little guy. Yet, it's OK for the litte dog to yap and bark at the big dog for no reason other than attention/deflection away from the fact that Floyd couldnt fight the top guy's IN HIS WEIGHT!!!!


St. Petersburg Times
By JOHN C. COTEY, Times Staff Writer
Published July 22, 2005



It's back to the drawing board for St. Petersburg's Winky Wright as negotiations to fight 140-pound champion Floyd Mayweather fell apart Thursday morning at a meeting in Las Vegas.
"As of right now, it's no deal - they changed the money on me at the last second," said promoter Gary Shaw, who said he was close to finalizing the fight when he walked into Top Rank and Bob Arum's office Thursday.
But within seconds, he said, the deal evaporated.
"I walked in, I told him: "I believe we have a deal,' " Shaw said. "And Bob said, "so it's a deal - 55-45 (money split)'.
"I said, "Bob, that was never, ever discussed, no deal' and that was that."
The day before, Shaw said he and Arum had agreed to a 50-50 purse split as well as other requests from Mayweather's camp. He added that Wright adviser Jim Wilkes and Don King, who has an option on Wright's next fight, agreed as well.
According to Shaw, however, Arum said he did not remember that conversation. Arum was unavailable for comment.
Shaw and Arum were in Las Vegas to promote the Oct. 8 rematch between Diego Corrales and Jose Luis Castillo. Shaw promotes Corrales; Arum promotes Castillo.
"There were requests made by Floyd Mayweather, we laid it out and I think they were fair requests," Arum told maxboxing.com. "Gary rejected them, so there's no fight. We have to sit with Floyd and we'll figure out (what we do next). Maybe (Antonio) Margarito. It's unfortunate as far as the Winky Wright fight, but it's not going to happen."
While Shaw said he agreed with just about all of the demands from the Mayweather team, principally regarding weight, he doesn't think the Detroit fighter, aformer Olympian, was behind the breakdown.
"I think it's Arum," Shaw said. "When Floyd normally calls someone out, he's serious about fighting them."
Mayweather, one of the sport's most vocal stars, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal Sunday that he was interested in fighting Wright, and Shaw wasted no time calling his bluff.
The next morning, he was in the Top Rank offices working on a deal.
"Remember, Floyd called Winky out; Winky didn't call Floyd out," Shaw said. "We were even willing to come down in weight to 154."
Because Wright, who prefers to fight at 160, could probably put on as many as 15 pounds between the weigh-in (the day before) and the fight and enter the ring as high as 165-170, Mayweather's camp requested a morning-of-the-fight weigh-in. That included a stipulation that Wright couldn't go more than eight pounds above the limit.
The undefeated Mayweather, who started his career at 130 and weighs 140 pounds, would be at a significant size disadvantage for the fight.
Wright (49-3, 25 knockouts) is still scheduled to fight Nov. 19 on HBO, provided Shaw can find a suitable opponent in the sparse middleweight field.

[PR Boxing Lore]

Let's just hope all the bs stops and we can get to business, class fights are waiting I hope we get them.

[Biggame]

WRONG!!!!

At first Wright and the rest of the world was like, yeah sure OK,,, floyd wants tof fight me:lol: Then as Lipweather continued to press it?? wright said OK, you want it, lets do it. After Wright became willing Floyd insisted on the higher percentage, WHICH IS/WAS BS!! floyd wasnt even Champ at 40 calling out a unified and legit Champ on his way to fights with trinidad and taylor and had beaten SSM TWICE. Just because floyd fans claim he's P4P means NOTHING!!!! Floyd IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER HAD ANY RIGHT TO A HIGHER %:nono :nono :nono :nono

Wright's team had a principal agreement and arum changed the agreement, BECAUSE HE KNEW DAMN WELL, that it was a publicity STUNT!! Winky would have looked like an ASS if he insisted beyond that point as he would have been the big guy, picking on the little guy. Yet, it's OK for the litte dog to yap and bark at the big dog for no reason other than attention/deflection away from the fact that Floyd couldnt fight the top guy's IN HIS WEIGHT!!!!

That's one version of Shaw's story. Shaw also said that He and Winky were not in agreement about the money. He said Winky said 50/50 or nothing. Now nowhere in that article does it say that Mayweather was the reason which is what you try and claim. You try and make it seem as if Floyd was scared and backed off! I personally don't see why he would:nono You call it a publicity stunt which hey to Winky it was, but at the end of the day it was Winky who said no to alot of money. Who'd he instead, and for how much:huh

Point is Floyd wasn't scared nor was he the blame!

BTW...what big name fighter does Winky get 50/50 with?.....







NONE!!!

[C Money]

That's one version of Shaw's story. Shaw also said that He and Winky were not in agreement about the money. He said Winky said 50/50 or nothing. Now nowhere in that article does it say that Mayweather was the reason which is what you try and claim. You try and make it seem as if Floyd was scared and backed off! I personally don't see why he would:nono You call it a publicity stunt which hey to Winky it was, but at the end of the day it was Winky who said no to alot of money. Who'd he instead, and for how much:huh

Point is Floyd wasn't scared nor was he the blame!

BTW...what big name fighter does Winky get 50/50 with?.....







NONE!!!

Floyd hides behind ARUM on this:good

Remember THE TIMES!!! Floyd wasnt 40 champ, calling out a unified 54 Champ, and Wright was Higher rated P4P by many!! Hopkins was #1 and lost to Taylor 5 days before that article and Winky was right behind!!! Floyd was not considered #1 and wasnt the real Champ:nono He absolutely had NO RIGHT to more than 50/50 and that's why it didnt take place:yep


How in the name of GOD was it a publicity stunt for Wright?? Floyd called out WINKY!!!! No one was dreaming of such a matchup. Floyd only did it BECAUSE B-Hop and Wink were considered P4P above him and he couldnt/didnt want to fight Hatton at 40:good

Wink came off 2 fights with SSM and Trinidad so he had MADE MONEY!!
Again at the time of the offer?? Wright was by far THE MAN, not floyd, so taking short $ made NO SENSE whatsoever.

Ironic that Floyd can hide behind Arum in this deal but when AruM stood in the way of DLH??? Floyd buys out the contract and does what he WANTS!!!!!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Floyd never wanted the fight!! It was a publicity stunt on his behalf and to this DAY, floyd groupies will swallow it hook, line, and sinker:good

[Biggame]

Floyd hides behind ARUM on this:good

Remember THE TIMES!!! Floyd wasnt 40 champ, calling out a unified 54 Champ, and Wright was Higher rated P4P by many!! Hopkins was #1 and lost to Taylor 5 days before that article and Winky was right behind!!! Floyd was not considered #1 and wasnt the real Champ:nono He absolutely had NO RIGHT to more than 50/50 and that's why it didnt take place:yep


How in the name of GOD was it a publicity stunt for Wright?? Floyd called out WINKY!!!! No one was dreaming of such a matchup. Floyd only did it BECAUSE B-Hop and Wink were considered P4P above him and he couldnt/didnt want to fight Hatton at 40:good

Wink came off 2 fights with SSM and Trinidad so he had MADE MONEY!!
Again at the time of the offer?? Wright was by far THE MAN, not floyd, so taking short $ made NO SENSE whatsoever.

Ironic that Floyd can hide behind Arum in this deal but when AruM stood in the way of DLH??? Floyd buys out the contract and does what he WANTS!!!!!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Floyd never wanted the fight!! It was a publicity stunt on his behalf and to this DAY, floyd groupies will swallow it hook, line, and sinker:good

Tell me,...when did Floyd leapfrog Winky?

Also you make it more than obvious that you don't like Floyd by the you approach everything that has to do w/him. You seem obsessed w/his downfall, or trying to knock him. Get over some of your personal feelings, and maybe you'd see that maybe it wasn't either fighter at all. What we do know is that Winky said no to the Arum offer, and to his own managers offers. I wouldn't call that a publicity stunt on Floyd's behalf:nono I don't doubt either fighters willingness to fight eachother, but again it was Winky who said no, not Floyd, and he said no to alot of money!!

Believe it to be what you want, think, and assume if it makes you feel better, but your beliefs will always be disorted w/your personal hate for Floyd! I think it's you who needs to move on from this subject because you can't seem to registrar that Winky said no to a good deal and big money not the other way around, and you only way of seeing it is as a publicity stunt:patsch I guess it was a publicity stunt when Taylor's camp offered him a career high payday for the rematch too:deal Oh yeah remember....he shot that down too!!!

Move on!!!!!

[C Money]

Tell me,...when did Floyd leapfrog Winky?

Also you make it more than obvious that you don't like Floyd by the you approach everything that has to do w/him. You seem obsessed w/his downfall, or trying to knock him. Get over some of your personal feelings, and maybe you'd see that maybe it wasn't either fighter at all. What we do know is that Winky said no to the Arum offer, and to his own managers offers. I wouldn't call that a publicity stunt on Floyd's behalf:nono I don't doubt either fighters willingness to fight eachother, but again it was Winky who said no, not Floyd, and he said no to alot of money!!

Believe it to be what you want, think, and assume if it makes you feel better, but your beliefs will always be disorted w/your personal hate for Floyd! I think it's you who needs to move on from this subject because you can't seem to registrar that Winky said no to a good deal and big money not the other way around, and you only way of seeing it is as a publicity stunt:patsch I guess it was a publicity stunt when Taylor's camp offered him a career high payday for the rematch too:deal Oh yeah remember....he shot that down too!!!

Move on!!!!!


I make no secret that i dont like floyd but i respect RESULTS!! The bottomline is Floyd called out Winky and it was a stunt. He wasnt in position to get a higher number and hid behind his promoter when it was what he desired. When Arum stood in the way? PBf bought him out and did what he wanted.

The media never said Winky was at fault, because clearly HE WASNT. The only ones willing to do so are floyd groupies and NOT EVEN ALL OF THEM. How can you justify Floyd as being the bigger NAME at that time?? He clearly didnt have the title credential's and two wins over SSM and one over Trinidad, STILL top any of Floyds victories. Again the media widely had Hopkins and Wright ABOVE Mayweather in P4P at that time. Now since PBf beat DLH, Floyd believes he is the superdraw and has moved into that top slot after Hops and Wink have suffered losses.

Perhaps, its you who should move on:good After all, any bias you accuse me of is equally evident in you're support of him. As you actually try to defend this BS in face of the evidence.

If Floyd one day proves to be the best?? I'll accept it and give him credit. Yet, that only happens WITH FIGHTS, not offers and smokescreens. Hatton's a first step, hope it continues.

[Biggame]

I make no secret that i dont like floyd but i respect RESULTS!! The bottomline is Floyd called out Winky and it was a stunt. He wasnt in position to get a higher number and hid behind his promoter when it was what he desired. When Arum stood in the way? PBf bought him out and did what he wanted.

The media never said Winky was at fault, because clearly HE WASNT. The only ones willing to do so are floyd groupies and NOT EVEN ALL OF THEM. How can you justify Floyd as being the bigger NAME at that time?? He clearly didnt have the title credential's and two wins over SSM and one over Trinidad, STILL top any of Floyds victories. Again the media widely had Hopkins and Wright ABOVE Mayweather in P4P at that time. Now since PBf beat DLH, Floyd believes he is the superdraw and has moved into that top slot after Hops and Wink have suffered losses.

Perhaps, its you who should move on:good After all, any bias you accuse me of is equally evident in you're support of him. As you actually try to defend this BS in face of the evidence.

If Floyd one day proves to be the best?? I'll accept it and give him credit. Yet, that only happens WITH FIGHTS, not offers and smokescreens. Hatton's a first step, hope it continues.

Not bias at all buddy:nono

I don't try and read into things and make up a conclusion like you're doing. You say Floyd hid behind Arum, and you say it was a publicity stunt yet refuse to accept the fact that it was Winky who said no to Big money, and a big fight. Like I said earlier...was it a publicity stunt when Taylors camp offered Winky all that money for a rematch too? You're trying to place blame on a guy who never once said no to the fight because of your dislike for him. Basically you're "making up" a conclusion to suite you!:patsch

Another thing,...tell me when Floyd suddenly surpassed Winky on the P4P list. You say Winky was #2 when Hopkins was #1, yet Winky was jumped by Floyd when Hopkins lost? Explain that one for me!!:think

[bigtime9]

Another thing,...tell me when Floyd suddenly surpassed Winky on the P4P list. You say Winky was #2 when Hopkins was #1, yet Winky was jumped by Floyd when Hopkins lost? Explain that one for me!!:think

don't worry biggame no-money doesn't have a clue:yep floyd has been on the p4p list 9 out 10 years he has been a professional. I wonder why winky would think he would get 50/50 with floyd.

[Biggame]

don't worry biggame no-money doesn't have a clue:yep floyd has been on the p4p list 9 out 10 years he has been a professional. I wonder why winky would think he would get 50/50 with floyd.

He doesn't and his post are riddle w/hate towards Floyd! He's really under the impression that he can make up a conclusion and it all the sudden be fact:rofl The money thing is a no brainer except to him, and I'm still waiting for him to explain Winky not #1 after Hopkins lost to Taylor if he was #2!!