what is a boxing fans opinion on ufc?

[knockoutpower]

what you guys think of it?

[Wordup]

It's shite.

[Power]

It's shite.

:deal:good

[knockoutpower]

It's shite.


so to you.what makes it shite?

[rushman]

I like it. Pride was better.

[canuckpunch]

so to you.what makes it shite?

ufc's best fighter (silva) got booed on his last fight. didn't he?

[hmm]

hmm says... I was a fan and thought it was "hot sushi" at first. I have like the first 40 UFCs on video.... after watching them all, I got tired because most of it went to the ground, some of the fighters were overrated or wtf?! to be called athletes, etc...... now I only watch when there is a so-called big match-up to keep up with the times. I don't really get exited anymore.

[aj415]

what you guys think of it?

Respect them as fighters and all, but watching two men roll around on the ground groping and all doesn't appeal

[gooners!!]

so to you.what makes it shite? Watching grown men roll around on the floor is not my idea of entertainment. I dont care if its because i dont know what im watching, its not entertaining watching two guys wrestle on the floor.

I hate it when there are clinches in a Boxing match and they dont really happen that much.

[Ringnut]

The stand up is fun to watch, their punches look ugly though. But once they hit the ground... bleh.. it's not for me

[no-lefthand]

Gave boxing a much needed kick up the arse, its not for me.

[radab]

Watching grown men roll around on the floor is not my idea of entertainment. I dont care if its because i dont know what im watching, its not entertaining watching two guys wrestle on the floor.

I hate it when there are clinches in a Boxing match and they dont really happen that much.




Thats the typical ignorant respnse from boxing snobs

Both boxing and MMA are great

Fair enough if people just dont like it, but the way a lot of people on either side just go out to mock the other sport is pathetic



Besides, perhaps the greatest fighter of all time (Fedor) is currently active in MMA. Thats the equivalent of being able to watch Sugar Ray Robinson in real time

[splasher25]

I really enjoy it. Looking forward to this weekend. :good

[Two Shakes]

Crude and not very entertaining.

[gooners!!]

Thats the typical ignorant respnse from boxing snobs

Both boxing and MMA are great

Fair enough if people just dont like it, but the way a lot of people on either side just go out to mock the other sport is pathetic



Besides, perhaps the greatest fighter of all time (Fedor) is currently active in MMA. Thats the equivalent of being able to watch Sugar Ray Robinson in real time

What is ignorant about that? i appreciate that its not as interesting to watch the ground game, IF you dont know what your watching, which i dont, but you've gotta understand its casual fans that make a sport what it is not hardcore MMA fans, and to the average person tuning into watch MMA all he is seeing is two men rolling around on the floor.

That is why it will always be a niche sport imo.

[twoohands]

i dont always get the ppv, only when there is a match up i want to watch. I use to get them all the time but i got sick of them always going to the ground and doing fuck all. Now i just watch the ultimate fighter and that enough mma for me i dont need to get the ppv.

[radab]

What is ignorant about that? i appreciate that its not as interesting to watch the ground game, IF you dont know what your watching, which i dont, but you've gotta understand its casual fans that make a sport what it is not hardcore MMA fans, and to the average person tuning into watch MMA all he is seeing is two men rolling around on the floor.

That is why it will always be a niche sport imo.




Thats what's ignorant. Haters always come out with that pathetic cliche, trying to ridicule it as a sport for poofs

I know many people who dont know any of the fighters, but love watching UFC cards. To say it has no appeal to casual fans is plain and simply bullshit

Its not chess, and its not rocket science. All it is is boxing combined with other fighting disciplines

[Mrboogie23]

UFC is good. I like boxing better.

[ed7890]

Not a fan really, dont like the ground stuff at all. Granted you can get boring matches in boxing and MMA, but i get bored alot more watching MMA.

I really like K-1 though, that stuff is savage. Anyone else like K-1??

[Grievesy]

MMA is quality!!! Boxing will almost always come first but MMA is right there behind it. Brilliant sport and to say that they are crude or unskilled is total bullshit.

^^ O yeah, like K-1 aswell!:good

[Hatesrats]

It's the "New" Toughman contest..
It's an alt, It still needs another 10 years to really establish pure style.
(Right now it's dominated by mostly older failed MMA who couldn't do other combat sports)

The kids coming up w/pure MMA will evolve the sport.
I can appreciate the Subs & techs established by the true grapplers.
Sometimes the ref's overreact a bit to a possible hurt fighter, but other than that.
I'll watch.

[gooners!!]

Thats what's ignorant. Haters always come out with that pathetic cliche, trying to ridicule it as a sport for poofs

I know many people who dont know any of the fighters, but love watching UFC cards. To say it has no appeal to casual fans is plain and simply bullshit

Its not chess, and its not rocket science. All it is is boxing combined with other fighting disciplines
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I personally dont like the way MMA and its fans try to get notoriety for their sport by bringing Boxing into the equation, its like pecking away at the feet of the giant :lol:

[splasher25]

It obviously has some apeal to some casual fans, but the bottom line is........ to MOST casual fans it looks like to men rolling around on the floor. You dont have to be an MMA hater or a Boxing fan not to like/appreciate that.

I personally dont like the way MMA and its fans try to get notoriety for their sport by bringing Boxing into the equation, its like pecking away at the feet of the giant :lol:

I dislike boxing fans calling it "two men rolling around on the floor" and i dislike MMA fans calling boxing a dying sport.

I'm a fan of both, as a put in a prevous post about the subject, MMA learnt from some boxing's mistakes.

Like one belt for one weight division.
Less promoters, which can prevent big fights from happening.
Making big fights the fans want to see, not endless mandatory bullshit.

[Kid Cuba]

It's shite.
What he said.

[ed7890]

Like one belt for one weight division.

Isn't that already falling apart for UFC? Yer man Fedor is signed up for a different promotion. So technically they don't know who the proper HW champ is. Just like boxing. And it'll probably get worse.

[Bill Butcher]

ufc's best fighter (silva) got booed on his last fight. didn't he?

So ? :huh

Mayweather got booed vs Baldomir... the crowd booed at one point during Morales-MAB II because it wasnt as good as the 1st fight... some fans are thick as shit.

I like UFC, fighters like Silva, Shogun, Penn & GSP are real artists & would beat the shit out of any boxer in a street fight.

I agree with Rushman tho, pride was better, I liked the face & head stomps.

I dont see MMA as a rival to boxing... I see 2 different sports & art-forms.


:good

[hoagy]

One rung on the ladder below dog fighting...that's only because dogs don't know any better

[P.4.P.G.O.A.T.]

Not for me - I can't appreciate the finer points like I can with the sweet science. Not saying there is no skill involved I just can't appreciate it.

[ringsider]

When one guy is laying on his back like a crab kicking up as another guy is circling him it really loses its appeal. It looks like the begining of what is to become a bad gay porno in a cage. (they would all be bad in my book)


You are supposed be on your feet to fight. :bbb

If you want to street fight/wrestle around go down to the playground......

[mgdb26]

I don't mind watching MMA but UFC drives me fucking crazy because of its whole image and how its run. It just has the heavy metal/military type image with all the tapout shit. It has Joe Rogan as its announcer and often spokesperson, who is annoying as hell. On top of all that Dana White is the king of douches, Bob Arum is likable by comparison.

[Wordup]

so to you.what makes it shite?

It's just not for me.

The sports I take part in are weight lifting and Tae Kwon Do. However alot of the guys at the Tae Kwon Do gym are heavily into MMA and as such the instructor teaches alot of groundwork. It is just not for me, I don't like grappling etc I'm much happier stood up using either my fists or feet. One lesson a week is set aside for a boxing style workout(footwork pad/bagwork & sparring) and I really enjoy this. So much so that I am stopping Tae Kwon Do and starting at a pure boxing gym next week. It's a shame though as I'm only 6 months away from getting my black belt, but the lessons are £50 a month and the black belt grading is £200, so I'm loathe to spend £500 on something I don't enjoy.

Respect them as fighters and all.

Agreed

[quackman33]

It's def more of a blood sport than boxing. These guys fight 3x5min rounds and for championships 5x5 and the fighters faces by the end of a match are usually bruised,bloody and more cut up than a regular 10 or 12 round boxing match. So if you like seeing blood it's for you. Boxing purists and hardcore mma fans need to relax a bit. You go over to sherdog and there's always someone talking shit about boxing and vice versa. I like both but I prefer boxing. Superfights in both these sports are always good to watch

[Teada]

Do brawl, not go to ground!

But grappling is different sport from boxing. You have to get used to it in order to completely understand MMA.

[ishy]

I've tried it and liked the stand up stuff, but as soon as they hit the ground I have to reach for the remote.

This :deal

[catasyou]

Fuck UFC.
That being said I watch it about once or twice a month.

[Babality]

Respect them as fighters and all, but watching two men roll around on the ground groping and all doesn't appeal

Amen.

[knockoutpower]

you say its just two men on the floor. all the best stuff happens on the floor. far enough thats where it can get boring to people who dont see what is trying to be done.
for me i like it cos main events live up to hype. now look at the past boxing main events, all have been shockingly one sided.

[Sheehan]

I like it, if theres no boxing on, then I will watch and enjoy ufc

[SupraTT24]

the jujitsu is very scientific albeit, but boring for one. two, there form and shit when they throw punches is TERRIBLE for the most part. and Three, the always say how they're warriors cuz they fight with 4 oz gloves and fight 3 5 minute rounds, when have the time if goes to decision or a TAP. can you imagine how fast a boxing match would be if they wore 4 oz gloves. the majority of them wouldnt go past ONE 3 minute round.

[Gatekeeper78]

you say its just two men on the floor. all the best stuff happens on the floor. far enough thats where it can get boring to people who dont see what is trying to be done.
for me i like it cos main events live up to hype. now look at the past boxing main events, all have been shockingly one sided.

UFC has one sided fights as well but your right in boxing the biggest hyped events are almost always one sided. I watch UFC sometimes and have seen some good matches but I like boxing better.

[Grievesy]

Fuck UFC.
That being said I watch it about once or twice a month.

:rofl...:huh

[SouthpawSlayer]

mma will never capture the publics imagination the way boxing does and has done for 100 years, you will never see ufc covering the pages of national newspapers the way big fights in boxing do, to the casual fans mma is 2 cunts rolling around on the ground, i have mates who are casual boxing fans and watch the big fights like haye waldo, cotto clottey but try talk to them about ufc and their only interest lies with brock lesnar from the wwf

[Vitor Belfort]

I like both sports. The rankings in ufc suck big time. It seems like the same fighters gets title shots over and over.

I mean how the hell do you give brock lesnar a title shot after 2 fights and only 1 win:huh.

[BITCH ASS]

Aren't people that purposely take you to the ground do so because they are ascared of getting punched?

[G8RB8]

It's the "New" Toughman contest..
It's an alt, It still needs another 10 years to really establish pure style.
(Right now it's dominated by mostly older failed MMA who couldn't do other combat sports)

The kids coming up w/pure MMA will evolve the sport.
I can appreciate the Subs & techs established by the true grapplers.
Sometimes the ref's overreact a bit to a possible hurt fighter, but other than that.
I'll watch.

I like this thought. . .Every time I watch UFC/MMA I feel it's overall less about strategy at this point. I don't think this for some of the big name fights with elite level fighters, but a lot of the smaller fights with "no-names" in them tend to have strategy out the window, and it becomes a sloppy mess as they try to "wow and excite" and move up the ladder just being a showman. Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone, but even Dana White himself says that wowing the crowd is a lot of what goes into it, and offers all kinds of fight of the night and KO bonuses, so it's pushed on them early to "open up" and sacrifice a little caution to appease more to the crowd.

Not that there's anything wrong with being a showman, but these guys are going to end up whittling each other away as they beat each other to death it seems. I think you'll wind up with more fighters that use a style similar to Lyoto Machida - hit without being hit, and strategy first - and look at the sport as a long term means of success, rather than the short term quick cash by being flashy. Of course, that also means fans will have to evolve a little as well, and appreciate and welcome a strategic fight as much as they appreciate a fight with bombs being thrown everywhere.

I think this weekend's PPV with the Serra/Hughes and Machida/Evans fights is a step in that kind of direction, with one fight having a lot of bad blood and possible craziness, and the other fight looks to have more to do with strategy, and will more than likely be less action filled. Hopefully the fans attending will be able to appreciate both, instead of booing a 20 second lull where Machida and Evans are trying to find an opening rather than exchange. I can say that I haven't looked forward to a UFC fight this much before because it's so tough to pierce Machida's armor, so I am anxious to see if Rashad can do it.

I'm very much a boxing fan first and foremost, but UFC has grown on me, and I have learned to appreciate it for what it is, as a separate sport that still has a lot to evolve.

[MrPook]

The fights are either really good or really bad.

[coog]

At first i didn't like it i thought that it was too brutal (didn't like the ground and pound) I have a martial arts background as well as a wrestling background. I have seen a few MMA fights live and You cannot see very well but it is interesting on camera.

[cryptic]

I don't mind watching MMA but UFC drives me fucking crazy because of its whole image and how its run. It just has the heavy metal/military type image with all the tapout shit. It has Joe Rogan as its announcer and often spokesperson, who is annoying as hell. On top of all that Dana White is the king of douches, Bob Arum is likable by comparison.

i totally agree. the image of the UFC is too mtv'ish.

[NSX-R]

I love both boxing and MMA, but I have a slight preference for boxing. I'm a fan of combat sports and martial arts in general so I don't find friction in admiring both sports. I just hope they can co-exist in the future.

[skier47]

I like watching the elite mma guy's fighting like G.S.P., Penn , Machida as they are tremendous athletes and always seem to be in exciting fights even when they are dominating. Outside of these guys, though, when average guys start rolling around forget it. Lower talent guys in boxing, on the other hand, like Gatti and Ward can produce the most exciting fights ever. Boxing rules but I will pay to see the best MMA fighters perform.

[Tko4]

Gee, I haven't seen this really lame thread before.