The Real Kelly Pavlik

[huntin_itai]

Kelly is showing his true colors by trying to renege on a contract he had with a pair of co-managers. I personally know them and Pavlik is being a d***head about the whole situation. I will post a link to several articles in the Youngstown Vindicator about the lawsuit he has filed against his co-managers that were there for him before he became famous and now that Kelly has stepped up into the limelight he is back stabbing the guys that were there for him when he was a nobody and pappa TopRank was not paying for everything.

I am interested in others opinions after reading the articles.

On another note Kelly has been seen still drinking heavily at the bars in and around Youngstown while Taylor is training his ass off in the Poconos. I have been Kelly's biggest supporter but after what he is doing to a friend I can not continue to back him but I wish him the best.

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[pioterbezkitu]

You've probaly logged here only for posting this shit

[marauder1999]

On another note Kelly has been seen still drinking heavily at the bars in and around Youngstown while Taylor is training his ass off in the Poconos. I have been Kelly's biggest supporter but after what he is doing to a friend I can not continue to back him but I wish him the best.

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Youre a jackass. Reporting this garbage that hes drinking around town? Go back to the hole you came from because this is supposed to be an informational/helpful site not a site that condones jackasses like yourself making crap up.

[Carlos Primera]

Kelly is showing his true colors by trying to renege on a contract he had with a pair of co-managers. I personally know them and Pavlik is being a d***head about the whole situation. I will post a link to several articles in the Youngstown Vindicator about the lawsuit he has filed against his co-managers that were there for him before he became famous and now that Kelly has stepped up into the limelight he is back stabbing the guys that were there for him when he was a nobody and pappa TopRank was not paying for everything.

I am interested in others opinions after reading the articles.

On another note Kelly has been seen still drinking heavily at the bars in and around Youngstown while Taylor is training his ass off in the Poconos. I have been Kelly's biggest supporter but after what he is doing to a friend I can not continue to back him but I wish him the best.

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whats bad about it? it just says his last contractual obligation to them was on may. it's well pass that date, and it says he does'nt want an extension with them.


Pavlik, who is scheduled to fight for the WBC middleweight championship Sept. 29 against champion Jermain Taylor in Atlantic City, N.J., is asking the court to uphold the three-year contract between him and managers Scandy and Jody Riley that expired May 12, 2007, and prevent Scandy "from bringing any action against Pavlik for any claimed obligations beyond May 12, 2007."


whats about the drinking? i smell an excuse when he dont make weight/ losses.

[jsimps]

Kelly is showing his true colors by trying to renege on a contract he had with a pair of co-managers. I personally know them and Pavlik is being a d***head about the whole situation. I will post a link to several articles in the Youngstown Vindicator about the lawsuit he has filed against his co-managers that were there for him before he became famous and now that Kelly has stepped up into the limelight he is back stabbing the guys that were there for him when he was a nobody and pappa TopRank was not paying for everything.

I am interested in others opinions after reading the articles.

On another note Kelly has been seen still drinking heavily at the bars in and around Youngstown while Taylor is training his ass off in the Poconos. I have been Kelly's biggest supporter but after what he is doing to a friend I can not continue to back him but I wish him the best.

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What a douche bag. Not even worth a response.

[Marnoff]

Right....

[PACZ]

Poor Jermain...

[Relentless]

jermain tko 11

[youthmann]

Go go pavlik

[Zakman]

There is nothing in those articles about Pavlik going out on the town drinking, nothing. The closest it gets to even talking to anything close to that is some bar fight he had with a cop in 2005 - two years ago!

This is all a bunch of sh*t. Pavlik is gonna expose the overrated Taylor. Heck, I think he could do it even if he WAS out drinking. :nod

[joeboxer]

Kelly is showing his true colors by trying to renege on a contract he had with a pair of co-managers. I personally know them and Pavlik is being a d***head about the whole situation. I will post a link to several articles in the Youngstown Vindicator about the lawsuit he has filed against his co-managers that were there for him before he became famous and now that Kelly has stepped up into the limelight he is back stabbing the guys that were there for him when he was a nobody and pappa TopRank was not paying for everything.

I am interested in others opinions after reading the articles.

On another note Kelly has been seen still drinking heavily at the bars in and around Youngstown while Taylor is training his ass off in the Poconos. I have been Kelly's biggest supporter but after what he is doing to a friend I can not continue to back him but I wish him the best.

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that would be a first...a boxer screwing a promoter.
Pavlik has been nothing but fantastic in the ring...so I think this is alot of b.s.

[geppy]

Pavlik is either Czech, or Slovakian right? With a last name that ends in Lik, he is obviously slavic.

[pipe wrenched]

Sounds like some serious sour grapes. His contract is up, and now you want a piece of the pie he's about to get. Eat a dick. Go Pavlik!!!

[pipe wrenched]

BTW, nice to hear the man has a life. Maybe you should follow suit.

[pipe wrenched]

I'm guessing these were not the responses you were hoping for, jackass? I'm quite sure most everyone on ESB are far more concerned about the wellfare of the fighters who eat thier own teeth and blood for our entertainment, than the wellfare of those who wish to line thier pockets from it. Maybe there's a website where promoters are the main line of interest, and perhaps your bitching and moaning would go a lot farther there. FFS!!!!!!!:-( :fire

[huntin_itai]

Easy to talk a lot of shit behind a keyboard.

My post was simple Kelly turned his back on the guys who were there for him when he wasn't making shit, this is informational. They paid him $12,200, $650 per month, boxing expenses, car, plus endorsements. They kept him from keeping his grass cutting job, trying to help him focus on boxing. Easy for Kelly to take their money, but different for Kelly to honor his contract with them. I know both the managers and Kelly so I am not talking out of my ass like many of you. The contract states not exactly but in similar words that the contract would be in place when healthy or otherwise able to compete in scheduled bouts and it would be extended by the length of any layoff that was due to health (like an injured hand that kept you from boxing for 292 days), just watch the intro to the McKart fight and you will hear the announcers talk about young Pavlik coming off his 292 day layoff due to a hand injury. In the articles I posted earlier it talks about how they are claiming the contract ended on May 12, 2007 and Kelly WAS NOT injured is simply bullshit. Read the following articles and tell me if his hand was injured which means the contract should be extended and the date it should be extended under this clause is Feb 28, 2008. They lived up to their end of the contract and so should Kelly. These guys were best friends and this is how they get treated. It is simply BS on Team Pavlik's part.

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Understand I supported Kelly on this and other boards with reckless abandon before any of you were backing him. I liked Kelly, but this is low for him to do. He signed the contract and like a man he should honor it like they did.

I still hope he beats Jermain. But it does not excuse his actions, you usually hear about a manager screwing a fighter not the other way around. Just shows Kelly is not so wholesome as he portrays on TV. The drinking thing was brought because you may want to be careful beating any money on him. That comment came becasue I talked with an individual on Tueday who works out at the gym Kelly does. He told me that Kelly's father came in to the gym yelling that he was done dealing with Kelly and Jack could deal with him running around getting drunk with his friends on the weekend 4 weeks before a world title fight.

Take it however you want it, but facts are facts.

[doublesuited]

Taylor is gonna beat white boy up real bad.

[Toopretty]

Easy to talk a lot of shit behind a keyboard.

My post was simple Kelly turned his back on the guys who were there for him when he wasn't making shit, this is informational. They paid him $12,200, $650 per month, boxing expenses, car, plus endorsements. They kept him from keeping his grass cutting job, trying to help him focus on boxing. Easy for Kelly to take their money, but different for Kelly to honor his contract with them. I know both the managers and Kelly so I am not talking out of my ass like many of you. The contract states not exactly but in similar words that the contract would be in place when healthy or otherwise able to compete in scheduled bouts and it would be extended by the length of any layoff that was due to health (like an injured hand that kept you from boxing for 292 days), just watch the intro to the McKart fight and you will hear the announcers talk about young Pavlik coming off his 292 day layoff due to a hand injury. In the articles I posted earlier it talks about how they are claiming the contract ended on May 12, 2007 and Kelly WAS NOT injured is simply bullshit. Read the following articles and tell me if his hand was injured which means the contract should be extended and the date it should be extended under this clause is Feb 28, 2008. They lived up to their end of the contract and so should Kelly. These guys were best friends and this is how they get treated. It is simply BS on Team Pavlik's part.

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Understand I supported Kelly on this and other boards with reckless abandon before any of you were backing him. I liked Kelly, but this is low for him to do. He signed the contract and like a man he should honor it like they did.

I still hope he beats Jermain. But it does not excuse his actions, you usually hear about a manager screwing a fighter not the other way around. Just shows Kelly is not so wholesome as he portrays on TV. The drinking thing was brought because you may want to be careful beating any money on him. That comment came becasue I talked with an individual on Tueday who works out at the gym Kelly does. He told me that Kelly's father came in to the gym yelling that he was done dealing with Kelly and Jack could deal with him running around getting drunk with his friends on the weekend 4 weeks before a world title fight.

Take it however you want it, but facts are facts.

Happens all the time..once guys hit the big time they ditch the local promoters...They should be used to that shit....Its the game baby...lol...Fighters do them...I know they kept Pavlik off the day-job circuit. This is completely normal. It is just business..The small time promoters are upset that they built him up to watch another guy make the real money off of them. To quote Floyd Mayweather Sr. Boxers are like women(he said bitches) you can do all this shit for them..but they still will roll out on you for the next dude..Shit that is life...:yep:good

[Rock0052]

In my slightly informed first impression off of looking at the articles you posted, Kelly did honor his contract. Plus, his co-managers should've still turned a profit on the ordeal since Pavlik fought 10 times in that 3 year term.

If there is specific language in the contract specifying that any time off due to injury be added to the length of the contract, it's a whole other ballgame. I can tell you that it's not a standard provision in pro sports. If an NFL player gets injured, that time isn't added on to his contract. If KP's co-managers didn't cover their ass and put it in writing in the language of the contract, they're fucked.

If that indeed is written in the contract, Kelly will have to pay. It's pretty open and shut, really. But understand that, short of posting the contract online so we can read it and see if you're right, ESB is going to side with the boxer.

If there's that much of a grey area, whoever draws their contracts up needs to work on ironing out details better. No offense.

[TamaTonga]

Kelly is showing his true colors by trying to renege on a contract he had with a pair of co-managers. I personally know them and Pavlik is being a d***head about the whole situation. I will post a link to several articles in the Youngstown Vindicator about the lawsuit he has filed against his co-managers that were there for him before he became famous and now that Kelly has stepped up into the limelight he is back stabbing the guys that were there for him when he was a nobody and pappa TopRank was not paying for everything.

I am interested in others opinions after reading the articles.

On another note Kelly has been seen still drinking heavily at the bars in and around Youngstown while Taylor is training his ass off in the Poconos. I have been Kelly's biggest supporter but after what he is doing to a friend I can not continue to back him but I wish him the best.



so what

[Zakman]

Taylor is gonna beat white boy up real bad.

Taylor can't even beat up JUNIOR middleweigths "bad" let alone "real bad." :lol:

[Grabonator]

Last I checked, He is a grown man above the age of 21. What's wrong with him having a drink? What's your next revelation? He watches porn? Get a life.

Why are americans not allowed to drink when they are 18??
We germans are allowed to drink with 18! :hi:

[Max Molyneux]

As shit as Taylor Is, he'll probably outbox Pavlik. Spinks Is a better boxer than Taylor and would outbox Pavlik unless he found Kelly too big.

Any world class fighter would beat Miranda.

[Max Molyneux]

Why are americans not allowed to drink when they are 18??
We germans are allowed to drink with 18! :hi:

It's 18 here too but there trying to raise It to 21 copying the Americans.:lol:

[nervousxtian]

I'd be pissed at Pavlik too. His people brought him up, gave him the chance to get this fight, then aren't going to get a piece of that pie.

That's friendship breaking shit right there.

I know it's Kelly in there fighting, but he wouldn't have gotten there without the help.

[PolishPummler]

I'd be pissed at Pavlik too. His people brought him up, gave him the chance to get this fight, then aren't going to get a piece of that pie.

That's friendship breaking shit right there.

I know it's Kelly in there fighting, but he wouldn't have gotten there without the help.

Fighters are supposed to honor there contracts.

Promoters should do the same.His contract was up so he is in no way doing anything wrong.

This is typical when you make it big.Someone always wants to go on the ride with you.

[nervousxtian]

Yeah, and you should take your friends on the ride if they helped you get there.

[PolishPummler]

Yeah, and you should take your friends on the ride if they helped you get there.

So should EVERY Boxer just pay everyone that was there in the past.

Were they not getting paid from his earlier fights?

Just about every fighter starts out with a small time promoter and manager.Should every mainstream fighter go back and GIVE MORE MONEY to someone who already made money off of them.

Pavlik's story is no different than just about every fighter out there.

[pavlik fan]

Easy to talk a lot of shit behind a keyboard.

My post was simple Kelly turned his back on the guys who were there for him when he wasn't making shit, this is informational. They paid him $12,200, $650 per month, boxing expenses, car, plus endorsements. They kept him from keeping his grass cutting job, trying to help him focus on boxing. Easy for Kelly to take their money, but different for Kelly to honor his contract with them. I know both the managers and Kelly so I am not talking out of my ass like many of you. The contract states not exactly but in similar words that the contract would be in place when healthy or otherwise able to compete in scheduled bouts and it would be extended by the length of any layoff that was due to health (like an injured hand that kept you from boxing for 292 days), just watch the intro to the McKart fight and you will hear the announcers talk about young Pavlik coming off his 292 day layoff due to a hand injury. In the articles I posted earlier it talks about how they are claiming the contract ended on May 12, 2007 and Kelly WAS NOT injured is simply bullshit. Read the following articles and tell me if his hand was injured which means the contract should be extended and the date it should be extended under this clause is Feb 28, 2008. They lived up to their end of the contract and so should Kelly. These guys were best friends and this is how they get treated. It is simply BS on Team Pavlik's part.

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Understand I supported Kelly on this and other boards with reckless abandon before any of you were backing him. I liked Kelly, but this is low for him to do. He signed the contract and like a man he should honor it like they did.

I still hope he beats Jermain. But it does not excuse his actions, you usually hear about a manager screwing a fighter not the other way around. Just shows Kelly is not so wholesome as he portrays on TV. The drinking thing was brought because you may want to be careful beating any money on him. That comment came becasue I talked with an individual on Tueday who works out at the gym Kelly does. He told me that Kelly's father came in to the gym yelling that he was done dealing with Kelly and Jack could deal with him running around getting drunk with his friends on the weekend 4 weeks before a world title fight.

Take it however you want it, but facts are facts.:hi: you are such an ass. first of all kelly did honor his contract and second if you want trouble you got it .the contract was up and scandi just wants to hang on to the nuts because bigger things are coming.. its a shame that you guys are so desperate to hang on that you have to come on here and talk trash .. all the responses you got were great and true. you are a newbie and that shows me you just came on because you need to trash kelly because you are friends with scandi and know he will lose this fight in court.. as some one else said get a life and quit whining. i know kelly personaly and all you have said is lies..and we also know who you are it was okay though when kelly did benefits for a relative of your though huh.. again your an ass and kelly does not need your support.

[nervousxtian]

So should EVERY Boxer just pay everyone that was there in the past.

Were they not getting paid from his earlier fights?

Just about every fighter starts out with a small time promoter and manager.Should every mainstream fighter go back and GIVE MORE MONEY to someone who already made money off of them.

Pavlik's story is no different than just about every fighter out there.

Kelly probably has made that much money up to this point. His next fight will probably be for more than all his other fights combined almost, and if he beats Taylor, his next fight will probably fetch in the millions.

His handlers up to this point probably have made very little compared to what his new promoter will make off him.

[PolishPummler]

Kelly probably has made that much money up to this point. His next fight will probably be for more than all his other fights combined almost, and if he beats Taylor, his next fight will probably fetch in the millions.

His handlers up to this point probably have made very little compared to what his new promoter will make off him.

So?

That is the case with 99% of name fighters.

[Toopretty]

:hi: you are such an ass. first of all kelly did honor his contract and second if you want trouble you got it .the contract was up and scandi just wants to hang on to the nuts because bigger things are coming.. its a shame that you guys are so desperate to hang on that you have to come on here and talk trash .. all the responses you got were great and true. you are a newbie and that shows me you just came on because you need to trash kelly because you are friends with scandi and know he will lose this fight in court.. as some one else said get a life and quit whining. i know kelly personaly and all you have said is lies..and we also know who you are it was okay though when kelly did benefits for a relative of your though huh.. again your an ass and kelly does not need your support.

Looks like you pulled that guys card..:yep:good

[PolishPummler]

BTW guy's Pavlik made a total of 12,200 and got a 1992 Cadillac.

How much money do you think he genrated in his last 4 fights alone?All have been on TV and one was on HBO.I would guess that they made back that 12k and $400 they spent on that lovely luxury vehicle by 10 fold and then some.

[Toopretty]

BTW guy's Pavlik made a total of 12,200 and got a 1992 Cadillac.

How much money do you think he genrated in his last 4 fights alone?All have been on TV and one was on HBO.I would guess that they made back that 12k and $400 they spent on that lovely luxury vehicle by 10 fold and then some.

1992 cadilllac :rofl:rofl:rofl was it rimmed up....:huh or was he chasing his hubcaps down the street.

[PolishPummler]

1992 cadilllac :rofl:rofl:rofl was it rimmed up....:huh or was he chasing his hubcaps down the street.

Yeah when he mentioned that Kelly recieved a car the cliche thing from movies pops up in your head.A promoter/manager swaying a young hungry athlete with a brand new sexy and very expensive sports car.:lol:

[huntin_itai]

pavlik fan big man calling me names and talking hard when your behind a computer keyboard.

For everyone the contract DOES have a stipulation that it be extended in the case of an injury, which there was for 292 days, and Kelly is tyrying to get out of it. Which makes him, in pavlik fans words, an ass. Kelly needs to honor the contract just like they honored their part of the contract. If Team Pavlik feels the contract ended why would tthey be trying to get an order from the court, because they know the contract should be extended per the terms of the contract. Why now all of a sudden are they trying to say Kelly was not hurt when they cancelled his fight with Zertuche, because the contract has a stipulation that would extend it that is why. Why would the top name attorneys in Youngstown, when approached by Team Pavlik, tell them they needed to pay. So what did Team Pavlik do hire some attorneys from Youngstown that noone has ever heard of.

I know Kelly as well and the information I am posting is not lies, ask Kelly why he partially paid one of the managers for the Miranda fight if he did not owe them per the contract. I am not a relative of anybody in this scenario, but do know each of the parties involved.

[huntin_itai]

What does it matter how much they gave him or what they gave, Kelly gladly accepted it to keep from mowing grass. Did any of you nuthuggers give him any money, pay for his training, or anything else for that matter. The answer would be NO so again it does not matter what they gave, Kelly accepted it. Honor the contract that has an extension in it for 292 days for an injury which Kelly had, which puts it at Feb 28, 2008.

[PolishPummler]

What does it matter how much they gave him or what they gave, Kelly gladly accepted it to keep from mowing grass. Did any of you nuthuggers give him any money, pay for his training, or anything else for that matter. The answer would be NO so again it does not matter what they gave, Kelly accepted it. Honor the contract that has an extension in it for 292 days for an injury which Kelly had, which puts it at Feb 28, 2008.

You made all that money back and then some.

Fuck off.

You try and play as if you like Pavlik yet degrade him at the same by saying he is good for nothing more than mowing lawns without your help.You mentioned that lawn mowing several times now.

Pavlik did graduate high school and finished vocational school.Why do keep treating him like some kind of moron?

[nervousxtian]

He brings up lawn mowing, because they helped Kelly keep training and not have to worry about his day job.

That is huge in boxing.

[PolishPummler]

He brings up lawn mowing, because they helped Kelly keep training and not have to worry about his day job.

That is huge in boxing.

Nah it was to degrade him.

Bringing up that Kelly was out drinking with buddies shows how personal this poster is getting.Him going out with friends has nothing to do with anything!

$12,200 and a old Cadillac over 3 years is NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Fucking peanuts.

[Toopretty]

Yo this guy is scarrrryyyy. Sounds like you guys plan to take Kelly out if he wins that bullshit in-between-the-lines bullshit contract you have out on him. Seems like a desperate way to get a chunk of the Taylor pie.. But if you do win..I hope you assholes have to pay all of the money you get back in legal fees..Sometimes in life you need to man up and know that this kind of shit happens to the best of us..Happens all the time in any sport especially boxing...Money has no love....Pavlik is not paying two promoters...Tell me this what the fuck is the small time promoter doing now to actually promote his next fight....lol...YOU WILL LOSE THIS BATTLE.

[geppy]

Taylor is gonna beat white boy up real bad.

Yeah, I bet you would like that. Too bad Pavlik is not your typical Mickey Mouse white hope, and will expose Taylor's chin. The one time Taylor got hit solid , which was against Hopkins, who is not a one punch fighter , almost Ko'd Taylor. Taylor likes to fight , weak punching, smaller, but skilled fighters ,to avoid punchers. Such as Spinks, Wright, Ouma , and wanted to fight Mora , none of who can punch for shit.

[bumdujour]

Kelly is showing his true colors by trying to renege on a contract he had with a pair of co-managers. I personally know them and Pavlik is being a d***head about the whole situation. I will post a link to several articles in the Youngstown Vindicator about the lawsuit he has filed against his co-managers that were there for him before he became famous and now that Kelly has stepped up into the limelight he is back stabbing the guys that were there for him when he was a nobody and pappa TopRank was not paying for everything.

I am interested in others opinions after reading the articles.

On another note Kelly has been seen still drinking heavily at the bars in and around Youngstown while Taylor is training his ass off in the Poconos. I have been Kelly's biggest supporter but after what he is doing to a friend I can not continue to back him but I wish him the best.

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are you from the taylor camp???

[pavlik fan]

no hes just an asshole..and yes asshole i am sitting behind a computer as you are...but when you go where you are going tonight you will see what i am talking about.. you say you know kelly well you dont know him all that well or like him and if you do who in the hell needs friends or supporters like you. take my advice, first know what your talking about and not only what scandi says and second get a life and go away

[Toopretty]

Yeah, I bet you would like that. Too bad not Pavlik is not your typical Mickey Mouse white hope, and will expose Taylor's chin. The one time Taylor got hit solid , which was against Hopkins, who is not a one punch fighter , almost Ko'd Taylor. Taylor likes to fight , weak punching, smaller, but skilled fighters ,to avoid punchers. Such as Spinks, Wright, Ouma , and wanted to fight Mora , none of who can punch for shit.

Pavlik will probably knock taylor out...Mainly b/c his best knockout punch is the str8 right hand..Taylor keeps his left hand low as shit around his waist...Pavlik pretty much has the fight in the bag...I used to think Taylor could outbox him but taylor is open to a big str8 right hand pretty much all round every round.. Taylor has hand speed but he does not move his head. He moves his body akwardly and always looks off balance..But I still say taylor would beat the shit out of abraham. But Pavlik has his #. Short fight I will be there :good

[doublesuited]

Yeah, I bet you would like that. Too bad not Pavlik is not your typical Mickey Mouse white hope, and will expose Taylor's chin. The one time Taylor got hit solid , which was against Hopkins, who is not a one punch fighter , almost Ko'd Taylor. Taylor likes to fight , weak punching, smaller, but skilled fighters ,to avoid punchers. Such as Spinks, Wright, Ouma , and wanted to fight Mora , none of who can punch for shit.Pavlik can't punch for shit. He's lucky Miranda was so weight drained or else Pantera would've fucked up Pavlik.

[geppy]

Pavlik can't punch for shit. He's lucky Miranda was so weight drained or else Pantera would've fucked up Pavlik.

Before Taylor fought Hopkins , all he did was beat up smaller fighters, then after he fought Hopkins , he went back to beating smaller fighter that are completely featherfisted. Taylor has avoided punchers because he is going to get KTFO. Taylors idea of a good fight is against someone like Spinks or Mora, who has no power at all to hurt him.

[huntin_itai]

pavlik fan you are talking a lot of shit, tell me where you think I will be tonight and send me a private message with your name since you THINK you know who I am and then I will tell you who I am.

You are the one name calling and acting like you are more than what you are and since you want to make threats like you did in your last post be a man and send me the private message with who you are and we will go from there.

You brought up the thing about the benefit well lets talk about that. The way you are talking you think my initials might be JA who Kelly was SUPPOSED to do a benefit for his brother BA who had just recently died, but if you remember Kelly did not show up leaving everyone hanging especially the little kids waiting to see him, but you are WAY WAY off base that is NOT who I am. :nono

Now stop talking shit and be a man and message me your name, since you think you know who I am.

[pipe wrenched]

pavlik fan you are talking a lot of shit, tell me where you think I will be tonight and send me a private message with your name since you THINK you know who I am and then I will tell you who I am.

You are the one name calling and acting like you are more than what you are and since you want to make threats like you did in your last post be a man and send me the private message with who you are and we will go from there.

You brought up the thing about the benefit well lets talk about that. The way you are talking you think my initials might be JA who Kelly was SUPPOSED to do a benefit for his brother BA who had just recently died, but if you remember Kelly did not show up leaving everyone hanging especially the little kids waiting to see him, but you are WAY WAY off base that is NOT who I am. :nono

Now stop talking shit and be a man and message me your name, since you think you know who I am.

:lol:

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

Taylor is gonna beat white boy up real bad.


Seriously How about Pavlik is going to whoop that black boy real bad yea that sounds better

[pipe wrenched]

Go Pavlik!!!!

[lavander]

firs of all pavlik was not hurt pavlik didnt fight because he had got into some trouble, so they postponed his fight also coming from a couple law officers who are very reliable knows scandy was the one who had taken him out that night. Second in the vindy it says pavlik had hand problems his entire career but it never stopped him from taking a fight. The reason pavlik didnt fight also was because top rank wanted a significant fight for pavlik just not another guy to throw in there, but with the court case going on they didnt know if he was ready or if he was in training. Scandy is another case where somebody who never worked in there life and has been in deep trouble before just trying to take this kids money. I am confused where these guys helped pavlik and his career, they were so called managers not promoters they came into kelly's career only 3 years ago, pavlik has been winning amatuer tournaments since he was 10 years old and pavlik was well on his way for four years before these night club owners threw there money in pavliks face. Actually from what i hear they offered him was a smack in his face 12 thousand up front which is only 6 thousand a piece and 650 a month which is only 325 a piece and a beat up 11 year old 1993 elderado at that time pavlik was undefeated and ranked in the top 5 in the world he was worth alot more then what they gave him. there only job was to buy him boxing equipment and pay half of his training camp. there like alot of other people in this area they want to bring him down cause he is having a great career that they wish they had in there life. instead they want to steal what is his there were never in negative results on the test pavlik got on his hand not ever explain that also im sure it would of been in the paper and its funny that the only people who are supporting tony are the ones who have been in the same shit he has i know pavlik personaly and he does alot to help people in this area and there is one guy i heard who he has helped more than 4 times to raise money for his family and he calls in a radio show i listen to everyweek and he down graded pavlik because he is scandy's buddy pavlik should sue his ass and get back the money he donated to that scumbag he fits well be friends with scandy

[lavander]

funny also how everybody talk shit oh pavlik is out drinking kinda funny a kid who throws over a hundred punches a round and is 31-0 number 1 in the world and is doing more for me and my friends in this area then any of you other scums that are talking shit on him maybe you guys should do what he does thats why he is where he is cause of hard work you guys sound like the drinkers i bet he dont wake up thinking about what you's are doing but u sure worry about him i think he is doing fine what he is doing look where he is at

[lavander]

pavlik did alot for ur ass i was there for two of them probably cause pavlik had other obligations that day that were planned for months asshole he has done more then he should of for a ass like you instead of down grading him you should of at least have sent him a thank you you my friend are wrong and the bottom feeder of society you still owe him a thank you for all those times he put in

[Rickypr18]

At least he's an entertaining fighter. Unlike his opponent.

[Dantes]

Pavlik UD/ KO

[pavlik fan]

lavender thankyou you are so right in every thing you said i couldn't of said it better.. i dont know who you are and i wish i can say who i am because that asshole would stop hugging on scandys nuts..and thank you for saying about scandi taking kelly out to a bar (great person huh) the night before because i couldnt say it.anyway no matter what kelly is a great kid and very respectable..also so many people are asking for kelly to do things and he is doing as much as one person can do...

[lavander]

lavender thankyou you are so right in every thing you said i couldn't of said it better.. i dont know who you are and i wish i can say who i am because that asshole would stop hugging on scandys nuts..and thank you for saying about scandi taking kelly out to a bar (great person huh) the night before because i couldnt say it.anyway no matter what kelly is a great kid and very respectable..also so many people are asking for kelly to do things and he is doing as much as one person can do... no problem i have been friends with kelly for a while he is hurt in a way but training his ass off, this happens when u get to the top kinda funny how he has never had a problem with management, trainers, promoters, or his agent in 7 years then you got scandy coming in all of a sudden. also i heard from somebody that tony scandy waited to see what happend with the miranda fight to see if pavlik wins now there is money involved. All of a sudden scandy shows up with an extension form, where was that 2 years ago. This came from a couple people within the camp including attorneys, and whoever this ass kisser of scandy's is must be getting free dogs to cover up something or they must owe scandy a favor. pavlik fan thanks for supporting my good good pal. kell go get em and dont let these bone fetchers get too ya.

[geppy]

Pavlik is either Czech, or Slovakian right? With a last name that ends in Lik, he is obviously slavic.

Yeah, Pavlik is Slovakian, I figured that. Alot Czech-oslovakian's have last names ending in Lik.

[geppy]

Taylor is gonna beat white boy up real bad.

doublesuited
Pavlik can't punch for shit. He's lucky Miranda was so weight drained or else Pantera would've fucked up Pavlik.



You still think Pavlik cant punch?