Cotto hit Judah low on purpose in the 1st.

[liljp361]

Trust me.

[Rickypr18]

Trust me.
What if i don't???

[Sug3]

Both were on purpose,but the second one was right in the balls of glory.

[KO byBRIGGS]

Cotto definitely left his class outside the ring for this fight. For once it was Zab showing great honor and sportsmanship. Cotto was getting beat up and intentionally did the low blows no question. As stated the second one was especially vicious. I have no respect for Cotto and cant wait for him to get owned by paul williams,PBF, or one of many other WW out there.

[Caper]

Cotto's got more class in his left thumb when comparing him to Judah. All this crying about the low blows......yet no one talks about the intentional head butt that split Cotto's eye and then the low blow Zab hit Cotto with....you know what Cotto did when Zab did that to him he came over and nodded his head tapped him with his glove and winked his eye and kept on fighting.

That's a fighter and not a bitch like you catz.

[Sug3]

Cotto's got more class in his left thumb when comparing him to Judah. All this crying about the low blows......yet no one talks about the intentional head butt that split Cotto's eye and then the low blow Zab hit Cotto with....you know what Cotto did when Zab did that to him he came over and nodded his head tapped him with his glove and winked his eye and kept on fighting.

That's a fighter and not a bitch like you catz.

I would hate to be in your state of mind after mosley beat's the bitch out of cotto.

[Danny Ocean]

judah still would have got his ass beat because hes a poor fighter

[liljp361]

Yeah but Cotto still hit Zab low on purpose in the 1st....

[Relentless]

Yeah but Cotto still hit Zab low on purpose in the 1st....

so??

[KO byBRIGGS]

so??what goes around comes around.......

[Marnoff]

I'd love a rematch. I believe the blow blows broke Zab's rhythm, where otherwise he may have been able to starch Cotto. Not for sure, but the landscape of the fight would likely have been very different.

[Boricua - TLH]

I would hate to be in your state of mind after mosley beat's the bitch out of cotto.

Don't worry that'll never happen... And as far as you sharing the state of mind of anyone who knows enough to predict a Cotto Win in this fight, your head is not worthy to carry such a superior brain!!:hey

[liljp361]

so?? Its unsportsmanship. It causes me to lose respect for Cotto when I know it was done on purpose like that... It shows dishonor to me...

[liljp361]

Don't worry that'll never happen... And as far as you sharing the state of mind of anyone who knows enough to predict a Cotto Win in this fight, your head is not worthy to carry such a superior brain!!:hey

Cotto is very good.....Mosley is great....

[KO byBRIGGS]

Don't worry that'll never happen... And as far as you sharing the state of mind of anyone who knows enough to predict a Cotto Win in this fight, your head is not worthy to carry such a superior brain!!
Cotto would get owned by PBF, Paul Williams and will probably get owned by Mosley.

[Relentless]

Cotto would get owned by PBF, Paul Williams and will probably get owned by Mosley.

pauls williams had hell with margaritas body shots.

[Boricua - TLH]

Also, if the 1st round "border line" Punch was actually low, why such a late reaction by Judah? And why did he make such a more dramatic show on that one than in the one during the 3rd, were in an exchange cotto threw a left hook, right hook combo in which the right hook caught Judah right in the balls? Judah will never be able to beat Cotto... And as for the Mosley fight. Cotto will test Mosley's age, unlike Collazo and Vargas. This is going to be a great fight and if Mosley actually pulls this victory he will solidify the fact that he must be considered an ATG hands down, even though he already is one in my book. If he looses, which I think will be the outcome, he will leave the sport with his chin hel up high because Cotto is going to go on to be an ATG himself. Mosley's legacy trascended from one generation to the next, but I think Cotto is the last stop for Mosley's Bus...

[Boricua - TLH]

Cotto is very good.....Mosley is great....

Cotto is very good because he hasn't beat any great... After Nov 10th he will have that victory over a great fighter in Mosley. Unless you are one of those doubters of his talent that will declare Mosley as an old past his prime victory for Cotto after that night...

Seriously, you don't give Cotto any chance against Mosley?

[Caper]

I would hate to be in your state of mind after mosley beat's the bitch out of cotto.

LOL :lol:

If Cotto loses so be it.....my life still goes on and the party will continue in my household. You see I don't waste my energy hating fighters and finding ways to belittle their credibility like many people on this board do. I don't spread hate its not productive and its the main reproductive element low self esteem. Sure I have confidence in Cotto and I never doubted the fact that he would dispose of Zab after going through a bit of fire. One thing you could never question about Cotto is the man's intergrity and respect for other fighters, this is the fight game you don't become a car mechanic without expecting to get oil and dirt in your nails do you? I find in so contradicting and hypocritical of some posters to bitch and moan about the low blows (Intentional or not) Zab absorbed but they fail to recognize the low blow and the headbutt Cotto endured and accepted as part of the fight game. Its pathetic, a pure reflection of bitter resentment. Excuses are like assholes everyone has one just like everyone has an opinion no matter how fraudulent it is. The absolute worst thing about this is the fact that this was the most humble Zab anyone has ever seen after defeat he praised Cotto and legitimized him as a "good young champion" he understands that the low blows did not cause him this loss it was of his own doing if the horse has settled the argument why do you continue to feed the subject hay? Move one and root against Cotto if it make you feel better about yourself. One Love

[liljp361]

Cotto is very good because he hasn't beat any great... After Nov 10th he will have that victory over a great fighter in Mosley. Unless you are one of those doubters of his talent that will declare Mosley as an old past his prime victory for Cotto after that night...

Seriously, you don't give Cotto any chance against Mosley?

He has a chance... Mosley is just as good and can keep up with anything Cotto does... Cotto fights flatfooted. Mosley is lighter on his feet. Cotto does have a chance though its called his left hook to the body lol. If he can wear down Shane with that it might help..but Shane wont go down easy ever. If you hit Shane he will want to hit you back. It should be a great fight...:smoke

[KO byBRIGGS]

I don't spread hate its not productive and its the main reproductive element low self esteem.

That's a fighter and not a bitch like you catz.

? you seem to run your mouth and spread your hate alot lol.

[Caper]

I'd love a rematch. I believe the blow blows broke Zab's rhythm, where otherwise he may have been able to starch Cotto. Not for sure, but the landscape of the fight would likely have been very different.

Yeah he would have been KO'd quicker....Zab would have let go with more punches and would have been countered silly. Fact is Zab stayed on the backfoot most of the fight avoided the forward moving Cotto this lead to less pocket action where Cotto would be more effective with his shorter punches.

[liljp361]

? you seem to run your mouth and spread your hate alot lol.

lol...

[Rickypr18]

You too, and ur a Briggs fan:patsch. Forgot to quote KO by Briggs

[Caper]

? you seem to run your mouth and spread your hate alot lol.

I'm a counter puncher, people swung I countered, that's not spreading hate its spreading facts, if that facts happen to sound negative just remember I'm only spreading the truth :good

[Caper]

lol...

:lol:

What am I being double teamed here.....

[Caper]

Its called constructive criticism.....calling you guys bitches will actually help you in the long run (long run LOLOL I bet you Mr. Briggs hates any sentence that contains "long" and "run" .........makes him gasp just saying it.

[He Hate Me]

:party so??

[Caper]

:party


Relentless saying "so" was pretty hilarious :p

[He Hate Me]

Relentless saying "so" was pretty hilarious :p

Oh yea we go way back, he loves these post's.

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

though zab will never be the same again i think he would have won if not low blowed twice

[liljp361]

though zab will never be the same again i think he would have won if not low blowed twice

Me too...He was able to see everything Cotto was doing...he saw it all coming...

[Caper]

Me too...He was able to see everything Cotto was doing...he saw it all coming...

Fuck it you guys convinced me, If Zab was not hit low he would have torched Cotto

Like liljp361 said Zab saw everything Cotto was doing, don't you know getting hit in the nutz causes short term blindness. Zab was blind for nearly 11 rounds he fought Cotto using his superior sense of hearing to avoid at least some of the punches but obiviously not enough of them.:yep :patsch :patsch

[KO byBRIGGS]

You too, and ur a Briggs fan. Forgot to quote KO by BriggsWhat hate? I barely even mention Briggs lately......

as for you Caper....your truth as you call it isnt worth the shit I droped on your moms face.

[liljp361]

Fuck it you guys convinced me, If Zab was not hit low he would have torched Cotto

Like liljp361 said Zab saw everything Cotto was doing, don't you know getting hit in the nutz causes short term blindness. Zab was blind for nearly 11 rounds he fought Cotto using his superior sense of hearing to avoid at least some of the punches but obiviously not enough of them.:yep :patsch :patsch
No it causes Zabs mobility to be hindered . His performance was affected :rasta

[liljp361]

Once youve been hit as hard as Zab was hit down there. Then tell me if you think you could go 12...

[He Hate Me]

Cotto used a brilliant strategy to slow down the quicker guy to dig those left hooks to the body.

[liljp361]

Cotto used a brilliant strategy to slow down the quicker guy to dig those left hooks to the body.

Cotto definitley prepared well for a southpaw... He will find it difficult when he fights someone faster who is a conventional fighter... :smoke

[liljp361]

If Cotto beats Mosley he will need his jab...............

[liljp361]

I just played it out in my head. If Cotto wins he will have to knock Shane out with a hard body shot (improbable since Shane honestly will be too much on his game to be caught by that I think..). Shane should earn a hard fought decision over Cotto, unless like I said happens...Shane is a tough man though..

[He Hate Me]

Tyson got away with forearm-elbow to the head for years, evander got away with headbutts, hopkins got away with rabbit punches behind the head.

[liljp361]

Tyson got away with forearm-elbow to the head for years, evander got away with headbutts, hopkins got away with rabbit punches behind the head.

Does not make it right.

[Marnoff]

pauls williams had hell with margaritas body shots.

Is that why he easily won a decision?

[He Hate Me]

Does not make it right.

It all depends on how the referee is calling the fight, and 2 if the referee has the right angle to observe the fouls.

[Relentless]

Is that why he easily won a decision?

what fight were you watching??

margarita gave williams all he can handle, you should send williams some flowers he saved floyd from fighting margarita.

[Marnoff]

what fight were you watching??

margarita gave williams all he can handle, you should send williams some flowers he saved floyd from fighting margarita.

Along with four others, apparently, who also gave Margarito a thrashing.

The Williams - Margarito fight wasn't that close. The scorecards were based on where the fight took place. The judges couldn't even find a way to let the slow, plodding Margarito, win.

[Relentless]

who's talking about judges?? do you watch boxing or do you just look at the scorecards in the end??

learn to watch a fight fuck face.

[Marnoff]

who's talking about judges?? do you watch boxing or do you just look at the scorecards in the end??

learn to watch a fight fuck face.

Fights are scored on a round by round basis. Williams won more rounds than Margarito. Margarito lost.

[AG11]

I don't think the low blows were on purpose BUT even if they were....Zab is a punk ass who deserved them. What goes around comes around.

[BigReg]

Cotto's got more class in his left thumb when comparing him to Judah. All this crying about the low blows......yet no one talks about the intentional head butt that split Cotto's eye and then the low blow Zab hit Cotto with....you know what Cotto did when Zab did that to him he came over and nodded his head tapped him with his glove and winked his eye and kept on fighting.

That's a fighter and not a bitch like you catz.

I like Cotto, but he uses some questionable tactics. I've seen him throw plenty of low blows, I saw him hit Urkal plenty of times in the back when Urkal was prtotecting himself well to the body. I've also seen a few elbows out of him. None of this takes away from his talent, it's a rough sport and people need to stop complaining. All this talk about class in boxing needs to stop. This is not golf. These people get into a small ring and try to beat the shit out of eachother for 36 minutes or less. There is no room for much class in this sport. If Cotto wants to use low blows and throw a few elbows to get his opponent off his game, then I say go for it. As long as people aren't biting peoples' ears, or hitting people with rabbit punches and setting off riots, then I'm fine with it.

[Boricua - TLH]

I just played it out in my head. If Cotto wins he will have to knock Shane out with a hard body shot (improbable since Shane honestly will be too much on his game to be caught by that I think..). Shane should earn a hard fought decision over Cotto, unless like I said happens...Shane is a tough man though..

Cotto has 36 to catch him... and that's more than enough time to do that... :good

[Grabonator]

I dont know if the low blows were really intentional or not but Cotto often hits low. Against urkal he showed some intentional fouls as well. If that happens again against Mosley more than once then i dont like Cotto anymore.

[Caper]

What hate? I barely even mention Briggs lately......

as for you Caper....your truth as you call it isnt worth the shit I droped on your moms face.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Your shit must be blinged out cause my words are evoked by God himself. I have no control over knowledge I spit, I was born so that you may live my gay porn fluffing brother.

[TroubleLurks]

Cotto has 36 to catch him... and that's more than enough time to do that... :goodMosley also has 36 to catch that overly exposed chin of Cotto. Cotto will wobble and Mosley will finish him. :hi:

[Boricua - TLH]

I like Cotto, but he uses some questionable tactics. I've seen him throw plenty of low blows, I saw him hit Urkal plenty of times in the back when Urkal was prtotecting himself well to the body. I've also seen a few elbows out of him. None of this takes away from his talent, it's a rough sport and people need to stop complaining. All this talk about class in boxing needs to stop. This is not golf. These people get into a small ring and try to beat the shit out of eachother for 36 minutes or less. There is no room for much class in this sport. If Cotto wants to use low blows and throw a few elbows to get his opponent off his game, then I say go for it. As long as people aren't biting peoples' ears, or hitting people with rabbit punches and setting off riots, then I'm fine with it.

Mention one boxer that doesn't use his elbows throughout a whole fight... This is just stupid comments, this is boxing!! If you don't want to see a physical tough fight then go watch the amateurs go at it!! The last man standing in a fight wins, period!! They put their lives on the line when they fight, so if they have to use their ass to protect themselves and to beat their opponent, then so be it... Besides, there's a referee and three judges to decide who plays clean and who plays dirty... Why don't you just enjoy the show and give the winner his props?? :deal

[Boricua - TLH]

Mosley also has 36 to catch that overly exposed chin of Cotto. Cotto will wobble and Mosley will finish him. :hi:

If two Judah uppercuts couldn't finish Cotto, I doubt anything Mosley throws at Cotto will... Besides to catch Cotto's chin he has to expose his ribs... he won't be able to KO Cotto with that piece-of-shit of a jab... :nono

[BigReg]

Mention one boxer that doesn't use his elbows throughout a whole fight... This is just stupid comments, this is boxing!! If you don't want to see a physical tough fight then go watch the amateurs go at it!! The last man standing in a fight wins, period!! They put their lives on the line when they fight, so if they have to use their ass to protect themselves and to beat their opponent, then so be it... Besides, there's a referee and three judges to decide who plays clean and who plays dirty... Why don't you just enjoy the show and give the winner his props?? :deal

Read my whole post buddy. What you wrote is pretty much exactly what I said in my post. Go ahead give it another read

[Boricua - TLH]

Read my whole post buddy. What you wrote is pretty much exactly what I said in my post. Go ahead give it another read

Dude, I'm backing your post... take it easy...
I'm saying that people who say Cotto, or any other fighter, cheats in their fights to win should stop talkin BS... Now you get it?:thumbsup

[Marnoff]

There is no room for much class in this sport. If Cotto wants to use low blows and throw a few elbows to get his opponent off his game, then I say go for it. As long as people aren't biting peoples' ears, or hitting people with rabbit punches and setting off riots, then I'm fine with it.

So low blows are fine... punching someone in his cock, but rabbit punches are bad?

[TroubleLurks]

If two Judah uppercuts couldn't finish Cotto, I doubt anything Mosley throws at Cotto will... Besides to catch Cotto's chin he has to expose his ribs... he won't be able to KO Cotto with that piece-of-shit of a jab... :nonoA well placed shot to Judah's marble sack might have had something to do with it. Mosley will hurt Cotto and he will finish him. Period. Fact. Book it...at least make some money the night your boy gets whipped. Of a Mosley victory I have never been more certain.:patriot

[Boricua - TLH]

A well placed shot to Judah's marble sack might have had something to do with it. Mosley will hurt Cotto and he will finish him. Period. Fact. Book it...at least make some money the night your boy gets whipped. Of a Mosley victory I have never been more certain.:patriot

Everyone was certain Judah would beat Cotto, many were certain that Quintana would beat Cotto... Others were sure that Malignaggi would stop Cotto's win streak and expose him as a slow robot. Dude, you will witness the making of a WW Superstar, and the all-honored retirement of an ATG which is Sugar Shane Mosley... You can bet on that!!

[Sug3]

Are you being serious? Mosley is a harder puncher than Zab and will not fall apart like Zab.



^^Dumbest post of the day...

Mosley will hit Cotto over and over and break him down, all Zab did was land 2 or 3 good uppercuts, anyone can recover from that but Mosley also works the body very well. Something Zab don't do. That body work will wear you down and Cotto will be a broken down fighter come the championship rounds and Mosley will finish him. Cotto is nothing that Mosley hasn't seen but Cotto's never been in with anything like Mosley. Mosleys been in with a prime DLH who hits like a heavyweight and was never rocked. Mosley by KO. :good

If mosley could hang tough with winky twice for 24 rounds,tko vargas twice and outclass a young fighter like collazo,this will be a easy fight for mosley,because all cotto doe's is come forward,perfect opponent for mosley to showcase all his skills.

[Boricua - TLH]

Are you being serious? Mosley is a harder puncher than Zab and will not fall apart like Zab.



^^Dumbest post of the day...

Mosley will hit Cotto over and over and break him down, all Zab did was land 2 or 3 good uppercuts, anyone can recover from that but Mosley also works the body very well. Something Zab don't do. That body work will wear you down and Cotto will be a broken down fighter come the championship rounds and Mosley will finish him. Cotto is nothing that Mosley hasn't seen but Cotto's never been in with anything like Mosley. Mosleys been in with a prime DLH who hits like a heavyweight and was never rocked. Mosley by KO. :good

"Anyone" can recover from 2 or three uppercuts?? You are also talking like Cotto won't even be able to hit Mosley... Every fighter Cotto faces says that even when Cotto misses and hits you in the arms ore fore arms it hurts like shit... Let's see who break down who... Remember, Cotto was supposed to be borned in the 15 Rd boxing era...

[BigReg]

Dude, I'm backing your post... take it easy...
I'm saying that people who say Cotto, or any other fighter, cheats in their fights to win should stop talkin BS... Now you get it?:thumbsup

Glad we're on the same page

[Boricua - TLH]

It seems like some people here think Mosley is God's Cousin or maybe a close a blood relative... He is human... He is not "ageless", he will certainly feel pain from Cotto's punches, and he will loose. Cotto will outwork him, he won't be able to outpunch Cotto. This will be a great, WTF, this will be an ALL TIME CLASSIC FIGHT, and it is a 50/50 fight... Whoever establishes his game fight first will be able to walk away victorious... But, most of the time, Cotto has demonstrated to be able to impose his gamplan time after time!! I just can't wait for this fight to go down... My two current favorites, one on the rise, and the one sitting on top of his game waiting for some one to proof he's not the best at WW... THE DRAMA IS BACK IN BOXING!!

[Sinew]

Cotto's got more class in his left thumb when comparing him to Judah. All this crying about the low blows......yet no one talks about the intentional head butt that split Cotto's eye and then the low blow Zab hit Cotto with....you know what Cotto did when Zab did that to him he came over and nodded his head tapped him with his glove and winked his eye and kept on fighting.

That's a fighter and not a bitch like you catz. Meh... Headbutts are almost apart of the game. My trainer taught me how to use my head on the uppercut bag...

To come in with the jab, then bump heads, and place my uppercuts.

Punching a man in the balls is for women and self defense.

[Guru_Too_You]

A well placed shot to Judah's marble sack might have had something to do with it. Mosley will hurt Cotto and he will finish him. Period. Fact. Book it...at least make some money the night your boy gets whipped. Of a Mosley victory I have never been more certain.:patriot

I'll be on the money train with ya this time Trouble.

[liljp361]

It seems like some people here think Mosley is God's Cousin or maybe a close a blood relative... He is human... He is not "ageless", he will certainly feel pain from Cotto's punches, and he will loose. Cotto will outwork him, he won't be able to outpunch Cotto. This will be a great, WTF, this will be an ALL TIME CLASSIC FIGHT, and it is a 50/50 fight... Whoever establishes his game fight first will be able to walk away victorious... But, most of the time, Cotto has demonstrated to be able to impose his gamplan time after time!! I just can't wait for this fight to go down... My two current favorites, one on the rise, and the one sitting on top of his game waiting for some one to proof he's not the best at WW... THE DRAMA IS BACK IN BOXING!!

Yep Im excited it should be a memorable fight..:smoke

[El Bombasto]

Trust me.

are you suggesting that without the low blow judah would not have received that ass whuppin?

[PR Boxing Lore]

Why do they keep with the same low blow thread, and why do people keep answering!:rofl :patsch

[BigReg]

So low blows are fine... punching someone in his cock, but rabbit punches are bad?

Yep. Both are definately illegal, and should be. However, fighters have cups. Sure, a low blow hurts like hell. But you can shake it off...after a while. There is no protection for the back of the neck. You could crack someone's spine that way and end their career.

[Toopretty]

I rewatched it..And Cotto was most definitely going low on purpose..DUMB ass Merchant said he was throwing body shots..:rofl :rofl :rofl :nut :nut :nut But if you watch it when judah was going after him. He was not trying to mount any offense and was backing up throwing arm punches low as shit like he was looking for balls. I mean in what world would judah be backing cotto. I mean if your cotto you would love to have judah that close coming at you cause he would crush him..but he didnt...and was pawing low and caught Judah on the nuts..not hard the first time..but just enough to make judah stop his all out assault..the second one was on purpose and HARD. And for those who say Cotto has not history of that..Of course..thats how you know it was low...Cotto is accurate as hell with his body punches and knows where he is putting them...its not like Zab is a tall fighter with a High waist guard..Zab wears his guard low and is short...:hey :hey Bad Cotto..Bad Bad Cotto..I think Zab may of made Cotto take knee at worst but Cotto would of beat him regardless unless Zab got real confident which he was not that whole entire fight.:think

[Antwuan Maxx]

If mosley could hang tough with winky twice for 24 rounds,

Hang tough with Winky? :lol: You make Winky seem like some kind of killer. Haha, but anyway, I guess you consider being thoroughly beaten, hurt by feather fists to the body, and looking like you want to quit between rounds tough. If Mosley hung tough with Winky, what would you say Sam Soliman did in his fight with Winky? By your standards, I'd say Soliman beat Winky's ass.

tko vargas twice

First fight was pretty much even up until the stoppage due to swelling. Meaning, Mosley fought a fighter who many were saying should be retired on even terms. :patsch Story of the second fight was just as much how bad Vargas looked as it was how good Shane looked. Obviously, as we know now..Vargas isn't the most healthy fighter out there.

outclass a young fighter like collazo

That "outclassing" only began to take place when Collazo was injured in Round 3, after making Mosley look silly in the previous round. Surprise, surprise.

this will be a easy fight for mosley,because all cotto doe's is come forward,perfect opponent for mosley to showcase all his skills.

Would you say Shane "showcased all his skills" against Cruz or Estrada? :think Those are both come forward opponents, with little to no defense and not nearly on the level of Cotto.

Are you being serious? Mosley is a harder puncher than Zab and will not fall apart like Zab.

No, he's not. Mosley has KO'd one fighter since 2001. That being a shot, weight drained Fernando Vargas who damn near had his jaw broken by Javier Castillejo (:lol:) in his previous fight. Zab stretched Cory Spinks. Something prime Mayorga couldn't do at 147, Roman Karmazin couldn't do at 154, or Jermain Taylor at 160. He starched Cosme Rivera in 3 rounds, who had never been stopped and just gave supposedly hard punching Andre Berto his toughest fight and went the distance without being that badly hurt. Zab also rocked Mayweather with a single straight left. What has Mosley done to suggest this decade that he cracks harder?


Anyway, this topic is hilarious. I'm through discussing it. People are gonna believe what they want regardless. Just throw it in the box with "Zab would beat Tszyu if Nady didn't stop the fight early," "Mayweather would have stopped Zab in the 10th if it wasn't for the low blow and rabbit punch," and "Klitschko would have KO'd Lewis had the fight been allowed to continue."

[Toopretty]

Judah has a better one punch then shane..that is no question..Shane is a better accumilation puncher...Cotto will get hit a lot more with shane..Cotto has a shaky chin but he has good recovery ability and he is always dangerous...he is not going down like Vargas with one shot...Cotto will get up and he keeps his strength for the full 12...Shane is going to have a hurtful night win or lose.. You guys forget Shane is not hard to find...He gets hit a lot.. His chin is good but I dont think he has never been tested to the ribs like Cotto will test him...If Shane goes down it will be by a body shot.

[Toopretty]

Hang tough with Winky? :lol: You make Winky seem like some kind of killer. Haha, but anyway, I guess you consider being thoroughly beaten, hurt by feather fists to the body, and looking like you want to quit between rounds tough. If Mosley hung tough with Winky, what would you say Sam Soliman did in his fight with Winky? By your standards, I'd say Soliman beat Winky's ass.



First fight was pretty much even up until the stoppage due to swelling. Meaning, Mosley fought a fighter who many were saying should be retired on even terms. :patsch Story of the second fight was just as much how bad Vargas looked as it was how good Shane looked. Obviously, as we know now..Vargas isn't the most healthy fighter out there.



That "outclassing" only began to take place when Collazo was injured in Round 3, after making Mosley look silly in the previous round. Surprise, surprise.



Would you say Shane "showcased all his skills" against Cruz or Estrada? :think Those are both come forward opponents, with little to no defense and not nearly on the level of Cotto.



No, he's not. Mosley has KO'd one fighter since 2001. That being a shot, weight drained Fernando Vargas who damn near had his jaw broken by Javier Castillejo (:lol:) in his previous fight. Zab stretched Cory Spinks. Something prime Mayorga couldn't do at 147, Roman Karmazin couldn't do at 154, or Jermain Taylor at 160. He starched Cosme Rivera in 3 rounds, who had never been stopped and just gave supposedly hard punching Andre Berto his toughest fight and went the distance without being that badly hurt. Zab also rocked Mayweather with a single straight left. What has Mosley done to suggest this decade that he cracks harder?


Anyway, this topic is hilarious. I'm through discussing it. People are gonna believe what they want regardless. Just throw it in the box with "Zab would beat Tszyu if Nady didn't stop the fight early," "Mayweather would have stopped Zab in the 10th if it wasn't for the low blow and rabbit punch," and "Klitschko would have KO'd Lewis had the fight been allowed to continue."

He rocked Cotto with one Punch too..I dont get your point..If Zab lands his best punch you are going to be a little rocked..regardless of who you are..

[Antwuan Maxx]

He rocked Cotto with one Punch too..I dont get your point..If Zab lands his best punch you are going to be a little rocked..regardless of who you are..

That's my point. Zab is a big puncher at 147. Mosley is not (at this point in his career.) Zab rocked Cotto just as he did Floyd in the 4th, and Tszyu two times in the first round of their fight. If Cotto's chin was as bad as most claim it is, he would have been out cold or on queer street everytime he got hit flush like what was happening to Rivera.

[Vantage_West]

judah still would have got his ass beat because hes a poor fighterthe point was that zab wins the first 7 rounds and then flounders later on maybe winning som maybe losing but he isnt as strong...

now when your a fighter who wins the firs few rounds then runs the later rounds...then yes a loblow would help ALOt if your a slugger. cotto needed to slow him down so he would have to stay inside and not move and be an easier target.

cotto planted those shots which slowed zab down...i actually have no problem cotto throwing them. duran ,hagler,hopkins,whitaker,casamayor all threw lowblows or played dirty to get a tactical advantage i have no problems with that. but when somone says cotto did them by accident is very short sighted he knew wat he was doing.

[Vantage_West]

:patsch You should get a new trainer ...seems smart to me if your a southpaw you should use your head to stop them charging

[Toopretty]

That's my point. Zab is a big puncher at 147. Mosley is not (at this point in his career.) Zab rocked Cotto just as he did Floyd in the 4th, and Tszyu two times in the first round of their fight. If Cotto's chin was as bad as most claim it is, he would have been out cold or on queer street everytime he got hit flush like what was happening to Rivera.

Cool. I do agree. Cotto does not have glass chin...He was weight drained and weak at 140. That does have an effect on your taking a punch ability. As you seen with Corrales/Mayweather. Or Corrales and anybody at 135-130. Cotto was not that hurt at all.. Cotto has a good beard to me know b/c from what I saw If Zab was able to pull of some more shots the worse that would of happend was Cotto taking a knee and getting up and proceeding. I get your point.

[Toopretty]

the point was that zab wins the first 7 rounds and then flounders later on maybe winning som maybe losing but he isnt as strong...

now when your a fighter who wins the firs few rounds then runs the later rounds...then yes a loblow would help ALOt if your a slugger. cotto needed to slow him down so he would have to stay inside and not move and be an easier target.

cotto planted those shots which slowed zab down...i actually have no problem cotto throwing them. duran ,hagler,hopkins,whitaker,casamayor all threw lowblows or played dirty to get a tactical advantage i have no problems with that. but when somone says cotto did them by accident is very short sighted he knew wat he was doing.

:good Shit its a fight..A little dirty is not that bad. But I dont like what Tito did to Vargas in that fight. He threw low with power. Vargas never recovered. I expect Hatton to pull out all the dirty tricks with mayweather and rightfully so.. Shit I would..ODH did...I mean good fighters are used to that shit..

[liljp361]

are you suggesting that without the low blow judah would not have received that ass whuppin?

not at all lol.

[pipe wrenched]

I rewatched it..And Cotto was most definitely going low on purpose..DUMB ass Merchant said he was throwing body shots..:rofl :rofl :rofl :nut :nut :nut But if you watch it when judah was going after him. He was not trying to mount any offense and was backing up throwing arm punches low as shit like he was looking for balls. I mean in what world would judah be backing cotto. I mean if your cotto you would love to have judah that close coming at you cause he would crush him..but he didnt...and was pawing low and caught Judah on the nuts..not hard the first time..but just enough to make judah stop his all out assault..the second one was on purpose and HARD. And for those who say Cotto has not history of that..Of course..thats how you know it was low...Cotto is accurate as hell with his body punches and knows where he is putting them...its not like Zab is a tall fighter with a High waist guard..Zab wears his guard low and is short...:hey :hey Bad Cotto..Bad Bad Cotto..I think Zab may of made Cotto take knee at worst but Cotto would of beat him regardless unless Zab got real confident which he was not that whole entire fight.:think

I totally agree with this post. I had picked Cotto pre-fight on ESB (Not like I had money on it, but I wanted to look cool cause most had picked Zab), but after the low blows I was pulling for Zab full force. BTW, I pick Cotto to beat Mosley in a clean and hellacious fight.:rasta

[Toopretty]

I totally agree with this post. I had picked Cotto pre-fight on ESB (Not like I had money on it, but I wanted to look cool cause most had picked Zab), but after the low blows I was pulling for Zab full force. BTW, I pick Cotto to beat Mosley in a clean and hellacious fight.:rasta
:good me too. I think Cotto can take what Mosley can dish but I do not think Mosley will fair well once that body starts to get hit. People forget that cotto is not some slow lug...the guy got hand speed. HE AINT VARGAS. AT LEAST THE SHOT VARGAS. I LIKED THE YOUNG VARGAS:good

[liljp361]

Zab fans are still crying about this shit. Just accept the fact your boy got his ass handed to him.

It was a tremendous display of heart from Judah...

[YOUNG*LORD]

Trust me.trust you? Being a nuthugger, does not make you an expert on bruised nuts.