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ajay11
05-27-2009, 10:05 AM
Awesome fight that could have gone either way. Was a bit like the Calzaghe v Hopkins fight with Choc landing the harder, cleaner shots against Geale who fought like an Octopus on amphetamines.

Kegsy
05-27-2009, 10:19 AM
I had Gealey by a point. Close close fight huge props to Mundine too...but seriously Barry Michael your a disgrace as a commentator.
Why doesnt his suit just have boxa engraved on it already...

maco_187
05-27-2009, 10:19 AM
not at there level but definately a good fight, that they should take with them and go overseas and test themselves again... mundine aint so dominant anymore ajay...
are you barry micheal in disguise?

JOSEY WALES
05-27-2009, 10:24 AM
Awesome fight that could have gone either way. Was a bit like the Calzaghe v Hopkins fight with Choc landing the harder, cleaner shots against Geale who fought like an Octopus on amphetamines.

Calzaghe / Hopkins was a shit fight , Hopkins saw to that with his fighting scared tactics i hope this one was better .

Da_Hurricane_Briggs
05-27-2009, 10:26 AM
I had Mundine by a point , the knockdown is what gave him the edge. There is an unwritten rule in boxing that the challenger ( Mundine) has to beat the Champ ( Geale) by that little bit extra...but as i mentioned i gave it to Choc.

Got a bit of cash for Choc by decision . Believe it or not when i put the bet on I noticed the draw paying $31 and thought about chucking a lazy ten on ...in the end i didnt...wasnt i a bit nervous at the end there....

Mundine really has no excuse now than go over and get Pavlich or Sturm ....coz if he doesnt he gotta rematch Geale ...heck he gave Soliman 3 chances..

Top fight..What a war , best Oz fight in a long time

SexualPanda
05-27-2009, 10:31 AM
Geale has great workrate and stamina, and you could clearly see he was the natural middleweight in there. He definitely looked strong and would have out-landed Mundine.

Good fight and it could have gone either way.

But I think this fight should pretty much confirm to Choc that he doesn't stand much of a chance against any of the 3 alphabet legitimate world champs. Simply not enough workrate and pop in his punches to trouble any of them.

Kegsy
05-27-2009, 10:36 AM
Geale has great workrate and stamina, and you could clearly see he was the natural middleweight in there. He definitely looked strong and would have out-landed Mundine.

Good fight and it could have gone either way.

But I think this fight should pretty much confirm to Choc that he doesn't stand much of a chance against any of the 3 alphabet legitimate world champs. Simply not enough workrate and pop in his punches to trouble any of them.
:good

teke
05-27-2009, 10:38 AM
Mundine was just a level above Geale, it showed through the punches landed.

His hardest fight to date.

3 Times bitches :lol::lol::deal:deal

one in a million
05-27-2009, 10:38 AM
Let mundine have a go at the alphabet soup...win, lose or draw this will be my last fight in Australia. As for Geale it is his choice of direction from here?

westside
05-27-2009, 10:44 AM
I'd like to point out I wouldnt like to see a rematch because:
This fight wasnt all it was cracked up to be. Sure it was close, and both had reasonable workrates & flashy speed. but owing to their suspect chins, they were both not willing to open up. It was only inthe last round when choc finally decided to open up. Then got tagged for it.
A rematch would be more of the same as the fighters would fight the same cautious fight.

ashley
05-27-2009, 10:46 AM
And "New IBO Champion of the WORLD" Anthony Mundine.....you can call me "Mr 3 time" :yep:hey:rofl

teke
05-27-2009, 10:47 AM
Fuck Westside im gonna keep bringing up that post for years to come when we are watching Mundine v Geale 4 :lol::lol:

Mundine should move on.

one in a million
05-27-2009, 10:48 AM
Win, lose or draw - last fight in Australia?

flamengo
05-27-2009, 10:49 AM
Its hard to say what the best moments of the fight were... Geales intensity was sensational and he's definately earnt massive respects from plenty from that fight.

Mundine looked unphased, yet out punched in numbers... A far better match up than I'd have ever assumed. Seeing Mundine pushed and forced for 12 rounds was the best part of the fight IMO.

The only ugly side of the fight being the PubicHairChinned, HookBeaked, GoggleEyed Promotor cunt laughing all the way to the bank... like he gives a shit...

Green might have to sit back and wait now.... a rematch of this bout would be worth its credits. A far more entertaining fight in comparison to Mundine/Green I.

Enjoyed the fight plenty.

ashley
05-27-2009, 10:53 AM
Its hard to say what the best moments of the fight were... Geales intensity was sensational and he's definately earnt massive respects from plenty from that fight.

Mundine looked unphased, yet out punched in numbers... A far better match up than I'd have ever assumed. Seeing Mundine pushed and forced for 12 rounds was the best part of the fight IMO.

The only ugly side of the fight being the PubicHairChinned, HookBeaked, GoggleEyed Promotor cunt laughing all the way to the bank... like he gives a shit...

Green might have to sit back and wait now.... a rematch of this bout would be worth its credits. A far more entertaining fight in comparison to Mundine/Green I.

Enjoyed the fight plenty.

Hey flame....sorry mate had to turn my phone off as we were running 30 mins behind the fight.....2 many beers and had to stop for the BBQ. :yep

Great fight well done to Geale.....I thought Mundine hurt Geale several times but Geales work rate was great....all in all great fight.

one in a million
05-27-2009, 10:53 AM
Its hard to say what the best moments of the fight were... Geales intensity was sensational and he's definately earnt massive respects from plenty from that fight.

Mundine looked unphased, yet out punched in numbers... A far better match up than I'd have ever assumed. Seeing Mundine pushed and forced for 12 rounds was the best part of the fight IMO.

The only ugly side of the fight being the PubicHairChinned, HookBeaked, GoggleEyed Promotor cunt laughing all the way to the bank... like he gives a shit...

Green might have to sit back and wait now.... a rematch of this bout would be worth its credits. A far more entertaining fight in comparison to Mundine/Green I.

Enjoyed the fight plenty.

The only ugly side of the fight being the PubicHairChinned, HookBeaked, GoggleEyed Promotor cunt laughing all the way to the bank... like he gives a shit...

Who is the ugly shit laughing all the way to the bank?

flamengo
05-27-2009, 10:58 AM
The only ugly side of the fight being the PubicHairChinned, HookBeaked, GoggleEyed Promotor cunt laughing all the way to the bank... like he gives a shit...

Who is the ugly shit laughing all the way to the bank?

:patsch

one in a million
05-27-2009, 11:00 AM
:patsch

A name would be good.

Marcus
05-27-2009, 11:02 AM
westside......um what? u dont think they tradded? damm man, what were u watching!!

teke
05-27-2009, 11:04 AM
You dont think they traded punches? c'mon man

westside
05-27-2009, 11:05 AM
not enough. serious most of those blows were deflected.

both were very cautious.

Marcus
05-27-2009, 11:05 AM
the cunt in the suit and sneakers, open shirt with t-shirt under it and a basball cap on!!

head devil.

did u hear what he was saying to choc in the 12th, either he was tryin to gee up choc or he thinks ibo judges cant be trusted.

westside
05-27-2009, 11:06 AM
the cunt in the suit and sneakers, open shirt with t-shirt under it and a basball cap on!!

head devil.

did u hear what he was saying to choc in the 12th, either he was tryin to gee up choc or he thinks ibo judges cant be trusted.

..yep & what happened? he went out there to knock him out & it opened the fight up.

teke
05-27-2009, 11:07 AM
not enough. serious most of those blows were deflected.

both were very cautious.exactly.

A fair bit landed on Mundine but a gazillion missed.

On a side note the undercard was very entertaining

ashley
05-27-2009, 11:07 AM
A name would be good.

:rofl:-(

ashley
05-27-2009, 11:08 AM
exactly.

A fair bit landed on Mundine but a gazillion missed.

On a side note the undercard was very entertaining

That was the best Mundine undercard ever:deal

one in a million
05-27-2009, 11:09 AM
Who Geno Reno the professional tape man or Khoder in his sandles and chewy gum?

Francis75
05-27-2009, 11:17 AM
What a great close fight it was. I was at a club 20 meters from the screen so couldn't really score the fight properly and gave up after about the 3rd round as each round was close and very hard to score.

I will say one thing. FUCK OFF DANNY GREEN AND NINA. If Mundine rematches anyone it should be Geale.

Geale did the correct thing by keeping up a very good workrate throughout the fight. This is what really troubled Mundine. Anthony probably landed the cleaner punches throughout but as i said Geale threw more and kept up a good workrate throughout. As someone mentioned earlier Barry Michael is still hanging from Mundine's nuts as he gave all close rounds to Anthony. Neither of these guys can punch at all at the elite level at 160 and i'm very confident that Sturm/Pavlik/Abraham would beat both Geale and Mundine. Hopefully this ends the stupid Green-Mundine rematch at 175 because seriously Anthony might struggle to beat Green if he has to move up to Green's weight of 175 now. Once again a great performance by Geale he really impressed me tonight.

Marcus
05-27-2009, 11:23 AM
knoder mel, u owe me one....


blows were deflected, cause they are both slick boxers.

id like to see th punch number,hey leon ya bum, count them for me plz.

sambo1987
05-27-2009, 11:24 AM
Absolute fucking bullshit.

Geale was robbed, no doubt about it.

Tape coming undone 5 times, a low blow that didnt get any attention from the ref, and a clear as fucking day knockdown that was discounted.

Mundine is a germ. Disgrace.

westside
05-27-2009, 11:25 AM
Absolute fucking bullshit.

Geale was robbed, no doubt about it.

Tape coming undone 5 times, a low blow that didnt get any attention from the ref, and a clear as fucking day knockdown that was discounted.

Mundine is a germ. Disgrace.

drunk.

teke
05-27-2009, 11:28 AM
drunk.:lol::lol:

one in a million
05-27-2009, 11:28 AM
knoder mel, u owe me one....


blows were deflected, cause they are both slick boxers.

id like to see th punch number,hey leon ya bum, count them for me plz.

I owe you jack shit.

teke
05-27-2009, 11:28 AM
knoder mel, u owe me one....


blows were deflected, cause they are both slick boxers.

id like to see th punch number,hey leon ya bum, count them for me plz.:rofl:rofl:rofl

Francis75
05-27-2009, 11:29 AM
Absolute fucking bullshit.

Geale was robbed, no doubt about it.

Tape coming undone 5 times, a low blow that didnt get any attention from the ref, and a clear as fucking day knockdown that was discounted.

Mundine is a germ. Disgrace.

You clown. A close fight that could have gone either way is not a robbery. Wake up to yourself.

calebt
05-27-2009, 11:32 AM
Absolute fucking bullshit.

Geale was robbed, no doubt about it.

Tape coming undone 5 times, a low blow that didnt get any attention from the ref, and a clear as fucking day knockdown that was discounted.

Mundine is a germ. Disgrace.

:lol:

ashley
05-27-2009, 11:34 AM
Absolute fucking bullshit.

Geale was robbed, no doubt about it.

Tape coming undone 5 times, a low blow that didnt get any attention from the ref, and a clear as fucking day knockdown that was discounted.

Mundine is a germ. Disgrace.

Dont agree....tape coming off gives both fighters a rest.....Low blow was seen.....what about Taylor hitting mundine with 3 low blows?....it was a slip....Geale hit Mundine with cleaner harder shots :deal

It was a close figh:dealt .......in the end Geale going down off the left hook in round 2 was the difference.

westside
05-27-2009, 11:34 AM
...aaaaaaaaaaaaand, now hes passed out. :tired

sambo1987
05-27-2009, 11:35 AM
I am verrry drunk, but come on!

Seriously though, good fight, I enjoyed it, but those things did annoy me. The reffing wasn't great.

Forget green mundine II. Geale rematch.

sambo1987
05-27-2009, 11:35 AM
Hittin the hay. Will rewatch and apologise in the morning.

westside
05-27-2009, 11:35 AM
oh no!!! look out hes back!!!

westside
05-27-2009, 11:36 AM
ha..but i was rite see

teke
05-27-2009, 11:36 AM
Hittin the hay. Will rewatch and apologise in the morning.:lol::lol:

Marcus
05-27-2009, 11:38 AM
I owe you jack shit.

ill take it!!! iv never called it that but it sure make more sense than " in the date".

sambo1987
05-27-2009, 11:41 AM
oh no!!! look out hes back!!!

hahaha

Hope everyone had a stellar night, peace :good

ashley
05-27-2009, 11:42 AM
hahaha

Hope everyone had a stellar night, peace :good

Enjoy :good

westside
05-27-2009, 11:43 AM
hahaha

Hope everyone had a stellar night, peace :good


:tired

sallywinder
05-27-2009, 05:25 PM
Mundine was just a level above Geale, it showed through the punches landed.

His hardest fight to date.

3 Times bitches :lol::lol::deal:deal


sd. 'a level above', 'his hardest fight';.....:patsch


get mundines cock out of your mouth teke.


.

Marcus
05-27-2009, 07:29 PM
sd. 'a level above', 'his hardest fight';.....:patsch


get mundines cock out of your mouth teke.


.



:pwned

Dantes
05-27-2009, 07:49 PM
Well done Mundine. Geale put in a good showing. It'll be interesting to see if Mundine actually heads to the US as he said he would, or rematches Soliman for another bogus title.

As for Sonny Bill's opponent...that was an insult.

roscoe
05-27-2009, 08:03 PM
C'mon teke a class above fuck all is what mandy is. Geale out boxed him plain & simple. Barry Michael is the biggest one eyed cocksucker I've ever heard. Never heard so much shit come out of one mans mouth. He seriously is infactuated with mandy.

Marcus
05-27-2009, 08:54 PM
geale fan but that was not his usual style to leave the ring as he did! whilst I thought he "retained" his title, the last few rounds really let him down.


Nobody wants the loser to have a chat and get all the praise from the croud just because he is the more popular boxer, i think he did the right thing and let Mundine have his moment.

the beaver
05-27-2009, 11:03 PM
Great fight......... Both fighters stood and traded on a number of occasions, never seen Mundine do that before. Although both lack that power to KO each other.

I scored it 2pts to Mundine but many close rds and thought a draw was close to the mark also.

dave fletcher
05-27-2009, 11:22 PM
Very, very entertaining fight, $50 well spent. You've got to congratulate both boxers. I find it sad that a World Title holder loses his belt in such an even contest. If Mundine had of held the title, there definitely could be no complaints about the result but the closeness of this defense should never have seen a boy stripped of his Title.

Would much prefer to see Mundine at Supermiddles as he's doing himself no favours staying where he is.

the beaver
05-27-2009, 11:38 PM
Very, very entertaining fight, $50 well spent. You've got to congratulate both boxers. I find it sad that a World Title holder loses his belt in such an even contest. If Mundine had of held the title, there definitely could be no complaints about the result but the closeness of this defense should never have seen a boy stripped of his Title.

Would much prefer to see Mundine at Supermiddles as he's doing himself no favours staying where he is.

Who's to say the judges didn't give the close rds to Geale based on him being the champ. Maybe if Mundine was champ the scorecards may have awarded him the fight by more??

ashley
05-27-2009, 11:48 PM
Yeah...it would be nice to see the rounds scored by each official

I think both fighters wanted to be in control more than they were....if the officials lent towards power and clean puncher Mundine wins.....if they lent toward volume and workrate Geale wins

Anyway great fight.....a draw would have been the best for most of the fans so the rematch was on again in 3 or 4 months.

dave fletcher
05-28-2009, 12:27 AM
Who's to say the judges didn't give the close rds to Geale based on him being the champ. Maybe if Mundine was champ the scorecards may have awarded him the fight by more??

Where are you comin' from mate? What I'm saying is it was a bloody close fight and being that, a title shouldn't be sacrificed. I'm giving credit to both boxers. But fuck, in Gealey's favour, he was World Champion, he dictated the pace of the fight, was the classier boxer of the two, was the better counter puncher of the two, punched in bunches having landed more shots, Mundine's punches probably looked more clinical because he landed singular shots.

And by the way, Geale's speed was equal to that of Mundine.

Mundine's own corner even said "You've gotta knock him out". They were obviously worried at the closeness of the fight. I just see it as it is mate.

pecks
05-28-2009, 12:31 AM
The whole 'close rounds have to go to the champ' is one big myth, and is written nowhere in the judges rulebook.

It especially shouldn't come into play when the so called champ is champion of the IBO belt.

teke
05-28-2009, 12:45 AM
sd. 'a level above', 'his hardest fight';.....:patsch


get mundines cock out of your mouth teke.


.Cry somewhere else Sillywanker

teke
05-28-2009, 12:46 AM
C'mon teke a class above fuck all is what mandy is. Geale out boxed him plain & simple. Barry Michael is the biggest one eyed cocksucker I've ever heard. Never heard so much shit come out of one mans mouth. He seriously is infactuated with mandy.So it was a robbery, fair enough

ashley
05-28-2009, 12:49 AM
If your not sure of what happend then just read the paper......Anthony Mundine...."3 time world champ" :yep:hey........or does Mundine own the paper as well :rofl

dave fletcher
05-28-2009, 01:01 AM
it don`t matter what belt it is mate. most would like to have layed claim to it.

and one thing that isnt a myth is, you dont lose a belt on a drawn fight and that would have been a fairer decision in this bout

dave fletcher
05-28-2009, 01:09 AM
The whole 'close rounds have to go to the champ' is one big myth, and is written nowhere in the judges rulebook.

It especially shouldn't come into play when the so called champ is champion of the IBO belt.

it dont matter what belt it is mate, most would like to lay claim to it.

and one thing that isnt a myth is you dont lose a belt on a drawn fight and in this case thats what the decision should have been

stiflers mum
05-28-2009, 01:52 AM
Cry somewhere else Sillywanker
:lol:Ready when you are for my Avatar.

Sox
05-28-2009, 03:06 AM
The whole 'close rounds have to go to the champ' is one big myth, and is written nowhere in the judges rulebook.
Agreed, the rounds should go to the man who performed better, and if a decision can't be made, then it should be a draw.

The boxers status shouldn't come into it.

Francis75
05-28-2009, 03:13 AM
it don`t matter what belt it is mate. most would like to have layed claim to it.

and one thing that isnt a myth is, you dont lose a belt on a drawn fight and that would have been a fairer decision in this bout

Each round should be scored on it's merits by the judges. The judges should be totally impartial for both fighters. The judges SHOULD NOT favour a boxer in a close round purely because they are the champion. If they did this then they would be biased towards one fighter. If the round is genuinely even then score it even, if not then score it to the fighter who won the round in your impartial view even if they only just won the round.The only advantage that the champion should have is the fact that if the fight is scored a draw they will retain their title.If you don't agree with this then you don't agree with having a fair IMPARTIAL contest.

sambo1987
05-28-2009, 03:31 AM
Dont agree....tape coming off gives both fighters a rest.....Low blow was seen.....what about Taylor hitting mundine with 3 low blows?....it was a slip....Geale hit Mundine with cleaner harder shots :deal

It was a close figh:dealt .......in the end Geale going down off the left hook in round 2 was the difference.

Ash come on! Gotta give you kudos for trying to justify all that :yep

But really, the tape shouldnt come off in the first place, once or twice is forgivable, but like 5 times? He walks from his corner to go into the 4th or 5th round and you can see the tape starting to fray, how convenient not to fix it between rounds.

Low blows are shit, whether its Taylor, Mundine or Joe Bloggs, now I think Mundine's was accidental for sure, but the ref hardly warned Choc about it.

And I just flat out reckon that was a KD, but thats being covered in another thread and mixed feelings there.

But hey Mundine got the big fat W on his record and cant blame you for going into bat for ya favourite boxer Ash, I would to :good

sambo1987
05-28-2009, 03:36 AM
Absolute fucking bullshit.

Geale was robbed, no doubt about it.

Tape coming undone 5 times, a low blow that didnt get any attention from the ref, and a clear as fucking day knockdown that was discounted.

Mundine is a germ. Disgrace.

Man, scoring a fight drunk is way easier, especially when theres 8 guys sitting around all yelling at the tv at once to 'rip'isfugginheadda[Only registered and activated users can see links] geaaaley'.

Sober score: obviously close, had Geale by about a point, great fight. Choc's body shot in the 3rd I think was a notable mention, as was Geale's incredible pace/workrate from the opening bell.

ashley
05-28-2009, 03:40 AM
Man, scoring a fight drunk is way easier, especially when theres 8 guys sitting around all yelling at the tv at once to 'rip'isfugginheadda[Only registered and activated users can see links] geaaaley'.

Sober score: obviously close, had Geale by about a point, great fight. Choc's body shot in the 3rd I think was a notable mention, as was Geale's incredible pace/workrate from the opening bell.

I think I am going to sit back and watch the fight all over again....without my hugger glasses on......na it wont make any difference :yep

sambo1987
05-28-2009, 03:41 AM
Each round should be scored on it's merits by the judges. The judges should be totally impartial for both fighters. The judges SHOULD NOT favour a boxer in a close round purely because they are the champion. If they did this then they would be biased towards one fighter. If the round is genuinely even then score it even, if not then score it to the fighter who won the round in your impartial view even if they only just won the round.The only advantage that the champion should have is the fact that if the fight is scored a draw they will retain their title.If you don't agree with this then you don't agree with having a fair IMPARTIAL contest.

You're right. But I spose there's that old school belief that you have to win the belt of the champ convincingly, my old man is always dribblin that.

But on a side note, I dont think Geale really lost much besides the belt. He put in a stirling effort and all my mates who at the start of the fight were saying "oh so thats the guy Mundine's fighting.." were huge fans by the end. His stocks definatley didn't go down and he ain't out of the picture, so really that says the belt is worthless which is obvious to most.

sambo1987
05-28-2009, 03:43 AM
I think I am going to sit back and watch the fight all over again....without my hugger glasses on......na it wont make any difference :yep

:lol:

"3 Time".. Ahh.. Here we go..

ashley
05-28-2009, 03:46 AM
:lol:

"3 Time".. Ahh.. Here we go..

Come on mate.....Its "Mr 3 time" in 2 divisions...got to get it right :nono

sambo1987
05-28-2009, 03:49 AM
Haha sure, whatever you say..

ashley
05-28-2009, 03:52 AM
Haha sure, whatever you say..

It was a great fight.......both guys did well....me and Teke were thinking it could go either way however Mundine is the best....ehhm....I mean it was a good close fight :good

TheDuke
05-28-2009, 03:55 AM
Yep. All the U.S boxing sites (and even some mainstream papers) are going gaga over our awesome 3 time dual division world champion Anthony Mundine after his amazingly dominant win over Daniel Geale whose aura of invincibility was once thought unbreakable!

sambo1987
05-28-2009, 04:02 AM
It was a great fight.......both guys did well....me and Teke were thinking it could go either way however Mundine is the best....ehhm....I mean it was a good close fight :good

Yeah you're right man both guys did do well and it was a good close competitive fight (unlike Leapi getting matched up against his Pops - farce). I think Mundine will now honestly know whether he has it to mix it at the top after that fight and will make a decision accordingly. Hope he decides to step up, which either means: he does well (I would be happy for him) or he gets starched (I would be even happier) :yep

Ben K
05-29-2009, 12:18 AM
To clear up something. In super close rounds if you cant decide on punches alone. The guy making the fight should get the round. Aggression is a small part of scoring but if all else is equal the aggressive guy who is pushing the action should get the round. IMO

IrnBruMan
05-29-2009, 12:47 AM
Mundine:

Won vacant WBA World SMW belt against a blown-up MW in Antwun Echols - the vacant belt was created when Sven Ottke was elevated to Super Champ status by the WBA when he unified his IBF belt with the real WBA SMW belt against Byron Mitchell

Inherited real WBA SMW belt when Ottke retired.

Lost real WBA SMW belt to Manny Siaca.

Won vacant WBA World SMW belt against a blown-up MW in Sam Soliman - the belt was created when Joe Calzaghe was elevated to Super Champ status by the WBA when he unified his IBO belt with the real WBA SMW belt against Mikkel Kessler.

Inherited real WBA SMW belt when Calzaghe vacated it and moved up to LHW to face Bernard Hopkins.

Gave up real WBA SMW belt when Mikkel Kessler became his mandatory.

Won IBO International MW belt via SD.

So he's won 3 paper titles, inherited 2 real titles, lost 1 real title, vacated 1 real title, and won 1 minor title.

Has never fought a real champ and beaten him for the real title.

The only sure '3 times' things about Mundine are his losses :yep

Marcus
05-29-2009, 01:05 AM
Mundine:

Won vacant WBA World SMW belt against a blown-up MW in Antwun Echols - the vacant belt was created when Sven Ottke was elevated to Super Champ status by the WBA when he unified his IBF belt with the real WBA SMW belt against Byron Mitchell

Inherited real WBA SMW belt when Ottke retired.

Lost real WBA SMW belt to Manny Siaca.

Won vacant WBA World SMW belt against a blown-up MW in Sam Soliman - the belt was created when Joe Calzaghe was elevated to Super Champ status by the WBA when he unified his IBO belt with the real WBA SMW belt against Mikkel Kessler.

Inherited real WBA SMW belt when Calzaghe vacated it and moved up to LHW to face Bernard Hopkins.

Gave up real WBA SMW belt when Mikkel Kessler became his mandatory.

Won IBO International MW belt via SD.

So he's won 3 paper titles, inherited 2 real titles, lost 1 real title, vacated 1 real title, and won 1 minor title.

Has never fought a real champ and beaten him for the real title.

The only sure '3 times' things about Mundine are his losses :yep


POST OF THE YEAR!!!!

hey ash :hey

Francis75
05-29-2009, 01:06 AM
Mundine:

Won vacant WBA World SMW belt against a blown-up MW in Antwun Echols - the vacant belt was created when Sven Ottke was elevated to Super Champ status by the WBA when he unified his IBF belt with the real WBA SMW belt against Byron Mitchell

Inherited real WBA SMW belt when Ottke retired.

Lost real WBA SMW belt to Manny Siaca.

Won vacant WBA World SMW belt against a blown-up MW in Sam Soliman - the belt was created when Joe Calzaghe was elevated to Super Champ status by the WBA when he unified his IBO belt with the real WBA SMW belt against Mikkel Kessler.

Inherited real WBA SMW belt when Calzaghe vacated it and moved up to LHW to face Bernard Hopkins.

Gave up real WBA SMW belt when Mikkel Kessler became his mandatory.

Won IBO International MW belt via SD.

So he's won 3 paper titles, inherited 2 real titles, lost 1 real title, vacated 1 real title, and won 1 minor title.

Has never fought a real champ and beaten him for the real title.

The only sure '3 times' things about Mundine are his losses :yep

Excellent post. 100 % correct. Even the 2 real title's he inherited when the WBA super champ went up or vacated Mundine then lost his next fight or vacated himself. He has fucken never been a world champion imo. He is/was a very talented boxer but it's a lot of smoke and mirrors in reality with very little substance at the top level. The true boxing fans who understand the sport know this. The only problem is that there isn't many genuine boxing fans out there in Australia who can see through the BS.

teke
05-29-2009, 01:09 AM
Has never fought a real champ and beaten him for the real title.

...and yet Danny Green has :rofl

LeonMcS
05-29-2009, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by Francis75
Even the 2 real title's he inherited when the WBA super champ went up or vacated Mundine then lost his next fight or vacated himself.

He sure vacated himself when Kessler was named as his mandatory.

Francis75
05-29-2009, 01:14 AM
...and yet Danny Green has :rofl

Greens just as bad. Throws his belt away and makes up a BS excuse to avoid fighting a decent opponent. I can't stand the both of them.

ashley
05-29-2009, 02:48 AM
POST OF THE YEAR!!!!

hey ash :hey

I liked it...its good:good

COULDHAVEBEEN
05-29-2009, 03:17 AM
Mundine:

Won vacant WBA World SMW belt against a blown-up MW in Antwun Echols - the vacant belt was created when Sven Ottke was elevated to Super Champ status by the WBA when he unified his IBF belt with the real WBA SMW belt against Byron Mitchell

Inherited real WBA SMW belt when Ottke retired.

Lost real WBA SMW belt to Manny Siaca.

Won vacant WBA World SMW belt against a blown-up MW in Sam Soliman - the belt was created when Joe Calzaghe was elevated to Super Champ status by the WBA when he unified his IBO belt with the real WBA SMW belt against Mikkel Kessler.

Inherited real WBA SMW belt when Calzaghe vacated it and moved up to LHW to face Bernard Hopkins.

Gave up real WBA SMW belt when Mikkel Kessler became his mandatory.

Won IBO International MW belt via SD.

So he's won 3 paper titles, inherited 2 real titles, lost 1 real title, vacated 1 real title, and won 1 minor title.

Has never fought a real champ and beaten him for the real title.

The only sure '3 times' things about Mundine are his losses :yep

That's how his Wikapaedia entry ought to read IrnBruMan - perhaps you ought to submit it to them.

IrnBruMan
05-29-2009, 03:23 AM
...and yet Danny Green has :rofl

Yep.

And you know it, brutha-a-a-a-a-a :yep

teke
05-29-2009, 11:31 AM
Yep.

And you know it, brutha-a-a-a-a-a :yepPisses me off actually cause Greeny could have done good things with that Belt :-(

ajay11
05-30-2009, 06:14 PM
To clear up something. In super close rounds if you cant decide on punches alone. The guy making the fight should get the round. Aggression is a small part of scoring but if all else is equal the aggressive guy who is pushing the action should get the round. IMO

What sometimes gets lost is that boxing is an art that involves many different skills including defence, counterpunching, bodywork and acuracy.

Mundine was better on all those fronts including landing more power punches which appeared to catch up with Geale in the latter rounds.

Why should a guy rolling forward with arms flailing get a close round? My seven year old son can throw punches in bunches but he has yet to develop some of the more difficult skills like parrying or slipping a punch by a millimeter then following it up with a counter right to the jaw.

ajay11
05-30-2009, 06:22 PM
I would like to add that if it were not for Anthony Mundine's personality and arogant confidence then we'd all be the worse for it.

Sport is an entertainment and gone are the days whe guys like Joe Louis or Don Bradman bore us to tears by telling us how much they respect their opponents in that dreadful monotone.

I will also mention that while the current title holders around the world are a few class levels above Geale that doesn't automatically mean that Mundine would get beaten.

Styles make fights boys and I've always said that I believe Pavlik's style is perfect for Mundine so long as he moves laterally and keeps off the ropes...otherwise it'll be over in 3 rounds. Hopkins used great lateral movement to fire in at Pavlik while keeping the middleweight off balance and making it difficult for him to get set.

Choc has the tools to do just that.

dave fletcher
05-30-2009, 11:29 PM
What sometimes gets lost is that boxing is an art that involves many different skills including defence, counterpunching, bodywork and acuracy.

Mundine was better on all those fronts including landing more power punches which appeared to catch up with Geale in the latter rounds.

Why should a guy rolling forward with arms flailing get a close round? My seven year old son can throw punches in bunches but he has yet to develop some of the more difficult skills like parrying or slipping a punch by a millimeter then following it up with a counter right to the jaw.

both boxers showed a good array of skills this is what made for a great fight. choc has proved over many of fight that he is hard to tag (good defense) but geale exposed a bad flaw in chocs defense in that under pressure he goes into a submissive type stance leaving himself unaware of his opponents position this is where on a number of occassions geale easily through good lateral skills manoeuvred himself to the left or right of choc. just my observation

SexualPanda
05-31-2009, 01:46 AM
Mundine's career is going nowhere. The real boxing purists know he hasn't proven anything yet. IBO is one of the most meaningless world title belts out there, about on par with a WBU or WBF belt.

To be honest I'm more excited about a potential Green-Jone Jr fight (although I'm not holding my breath) than anything Mundine will do in the future.

RayKelly
05-31-2009, 01:46 AM
I'm very keen to do an analysis on the fight so if anyone has a DVD of it I'd love a copy.

Ray

LeonMcS
05-31-2009, 01:48 AM
Ash has asked for four copies off me so I'm presuming one of those is for you...special nuthugger rates appliy though, $500 a copy.

IrnBruMan
05-31-2009, 08:27 PM
Pisses me off actually cause Greeny could have done good things with that Belt :-(

Like whipping Nina's luscious blond butt? :yep

stiflers mum
05-31-2009, 11:03 PM
Pisses me off actually cause Greeny could have done good things with that Belt :-(
danny obviously didnt think so.didnt think he could beat Garay.

teke
06-01-2009, 12:13 AM
danny obviously didnt think so.didnt think he could beat Garay.He could have torn Garays arse apart.

perfect jet
06-01-2009, 02:44 AM
I'm very keen to do an analysis on the fight so if anyone has a DVD of it I'd love a copy.

Ray

Here ya go Ray...

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LeonMcS
06-01-2009, 02:51 AM
Disc has been organised.