If Sam Peter Beats Oleg Maskaev................... [Archive]

RUSKULL

08-31-2007, 02:43 PM

he and his people will try and weasel out of fighting Vitali Klitschko. Wait and see.

Of course they'll try to fight anyone other than Vitali just because Don King is involved. He's afraid he'll lose his only belt out of the 3 and he has to share that one with Duva :lol:

RUSKULL

08-31-2007, 02:44 PM

Then maybe we could see wlads soft chin get tested again

It seemed more like Peter was trying to test the back of Wlad's head, not his chin. Try again.

KobeIsGod

08-31-2007, 02:46 PM

Then maybe we could see wlads soft chin get tested again

I tend to think Duva and King will keep Peter away from both Vitali and glass-jawed Wald :yep

box03

08-31-2007, 02:55 PM

I tend to think Duva and King will keep Peter away from both Vitali and glass-jawed Wald :yep Wlad put his head down like a bitch when he was getting rocked, any way even if he did wlad was leaning on his back and neck the whole night. Wlad fought just as dirty as peter, they both were fouling each other. Its a fight what do you expect?

Grabonator

08-31-2007, 02:55 PM

I tend to think Duva and King will keep Peter away from both Vitali and glass-jawed Wald :yep

I dont think so because i think they are confident Peter can defeat both of them.

spooky

08-31-2007, 02:58 PM

It seemed more like Peter was trying to test the back of Wlad's head, not his chin. Try again.

because wlad kept ducking, turning, grabbing, and dancing around the ring. it was a shame the ref didn't even warn him. he was flopping all over the place.

without a doubt these are the two best in the division. i would love to see the rematch. Peter has gotten better. i dont know if wlad can survive again.

Loufatski

08-31-2007, 03:04 PM

he and his people will try and weasel out of fighting Vitali Klitschko. Wait and see.

That's alright, if Golota gets past McBride then bring him on.

Stinky gloves

08-31-2007, 03:09 PM

That's alright, if Golota gets past McBride then bring him on.

Yes, if Golota KO McBride then he is worthy of the next title shot.

Sakura

08-31-2007, 03:12 PM

I tend to think Duva and King will keep Peter away from both Vitali and glass-jawed Wald :yep

Most likelihood possibility:yep

lefthook31

08-31-2007, 03:27 PM

he and his people will try and weasel out of fighting Vitali Klitschko. Wait and see.
Doesnt Vitali have to beat Mcline first?:-((

Guru_Too_You

08-31-2007, 03:30 PM

Would it be any different from the way that Vitali weaseled his way in?

lefthook31

08-31-2007, 03:36 PM

Would it be any different from the way that Vitali weaseled his way in?

well hes certainly taking on a dangerous opponent for his comeback fight. :lol:

Guru_Too_You

08-31-2007, 03:46 PM

well hes certainly taking on a dangerous opponent for his comeback fight. :lol:

LOL. Yes. I am very impressed.

IntentionalButt

08-31-2007, 03:53 PM

LOL. Yes. I am very impressed.

There's a part of me perversely wishing for McCline and Maskaev to wind up facing each other for the belt in 08, with everybody's heroes thoroughly deflated. :yep

Guru_Too_You

08-31-2007, 03:58 PM

There's a part of me perversely wishing for McCline and Maskaev to wind up facing each other for the belt in 08, with everybody's heroes thoroughly deflated. :yep

OMFG.

That would be classic.

I love it.

Marnoff

08-31-2007, 03:58 PM

If he ducks Vitali and fights someone to unify, I won't care. If he ducks Vitali and fights a nobody, I will.

box03

08-31-2007, 04:01 PM

If he ducks Vitali and fights someone to unify, I won't care. If he ducks Vitali and fights a nobody, I will. I hope peter fights Mccall after he destroys Maskaev he deserves it more than that fag Vitali

DamonD

08-31-2007, 05:05 PM

There's a part of me perversely wishing for McCline and Maskaev to wind up facing each other for the belt in 08, with everybody's heroes thoroughly deflated. :yep
That would be...okay, that would be funny in a mass chaos kinda way, yeah! :yep

El Bombasto

08-31-2007, 05:12 PM

Then maybe we could see wlads soft chin get tested again

you mean the back of wlad's head

AJAX

08-31-2007, 05:14 PM

he and his people will try and weasel out of fighting Vitali Klitschko. Wait and see.

I was worried about the same thing, I thought it was said Vitaly get's to fight the winner's next match no matter what, but when King's involved nothing surprises me. it sure would make Peter look like a coward if he avoided that fight. Peter-Vitaly is the fight I want to see most and I would even pay ppv to watch Vitaly beat on Peter.

box03

08-31-2007, 05:24 PM

you mean the back of wlad's head True but wlad was rocked before that, it just so happens that was the punch that put wlad down. When you have a panic attack and put your head down thats what happens.

Heavyrighthand

08-31-2007, 05:32 PM

he and his people will try and weasel out of fighting Vitali Klitschko. Wait and see.

You know that King will put somesort of unfair nonsense on Vitali's supposedly guaranteed shot at Peter, thereby causing Suliaman to throw up his hands and allow King to get away with it.......and Peter won't have to fight Vitali.

That's what I thought would happen all along, and I bet that's exactly what will happen. :twisted:

BoxingGuru

08-31-2007, 06:10 PM

I hope peter fights Mccall after he destroys Maskaev he deserves it more than that fag Vitali

That "fag Vitali" is a better man, with more money, more accomplishments, and gets more pussy than you. How's that make you feel?

Heavyrighthand

08-31-2007, 06:49 PM

That "fag Vitali" is a better man, with more money, more accomplishments, and gets more pussy than you. How's that make you feel?

:lol:

link2296

08-31-2007, 06:54 PM

Ramshall1

08-31-2007, 06:56 PM

Would it be any different from the way that Vitali weaseled his way in?

:thumbsup

link2296

08-31-2007, 07:05 PM

:thumbsup

A real Champ doesn't duck anyone!!

Mr "T"

08-31-2007, 08:41 PM

i dont think so they think they have the best heavy in the world..,we see
C'mon, you must e joking.

lefthook31

08-31-2007, 08:49 PM

Am I the only one that thinks the "Big O" will whoop Peter's rear end?

Sam Peter is receiving way too much credit for beating a world-class bum like James Toney. If Peter tries to box the Big O like he did against Toney, he's getting KTFO'd...guaranteed!!

I dont think the Big O can knock out Peter. I do think the fight "could" be more competitive than most, because I think the long layoff hurts Peter more than Oleg. Peter looked terribly out of shape at the press conference.
That being said, I can remember sitting ringside and watching Oleg get blasted in one round to Mcall. He did box well against Tua before getting caught, but Peter throws much faster hooks than Tua, so he is going to have to be on his A game to stay away from that hook and try and win a 12 round decision.

box03

08-31-2007, 09:32 PM

That "fag Vitali" is a better man, with more money, more accomplishments, and gets more pussy than you. How's that make you feel? I agree with everything you just said but the pussy part vitali and his brother obviously preffer cock

IntentionalButt

08-31-2007, 10:08 PM

That would be...okay, that would be funny in a mass chaos kinda way, yeah! :yep

ESB would become one giant, mucous-and-tear-filled hanky!

RUSKULL

08-31-2007, 10:14 PM

because wlad kept ducking, turning, grabbing, and dancing around the ring. it was a shame the ref didn't even warn him. he was flopping all over the place.

without a doubt these are the two best in the division. i would love to see the rematch. Peter has gotten better. i dont know if wlad can survive again.

Oh please, as if Peter really had a shot the last time. Sammy was going for broke with every punch BECASUE HE WAS BEING OUTCLASSED BIGTIME.

Peter sucks, get over it & watch Peter be demolished by Vitali , even if Peter gets by Oleg for the honor of being KTFO by King Vitali. :happy

RUSKULL

08-31-2007, 10:21 PM

Would it be any different from the way that Vitali weaseled his way in?

Fuck no!

Vitali was granted his emeritus champion status by Jose Suliman's rule of the WBC because Vitali did the honorable thing by retiring rather than fighting at less than 100%.

That in itself is a huge sacrifice by VK since no one reading this would've given up a shot at 8 million by merely beating the fuck outta the likes of Rahman.

Don't lie now people.

Rahman didn't stand a chance anyway................................

RUSKULL

08-31-2007, 10:27 PM

I hope peter fights Mccall after he destroys Maskaev he deserves it more than that fag Vitali

I dare you to call Vitali a fag to his face.

box03

08-31-2007, 10:28 PM

Fuck no!

Vitali was granted his emeritus champion status by Jose Suliman's rule of the WBC because Vitali did the honorable thing by retiring rather than fighting at less than 100%.

That in itself is a huge sacrifice by VK since no one reading this would've given up a shot at 8 million by merely beating the fuck outta the likes of Rahman.

Don't lie now people.

Rahman didn't stand a chance anyway................................ You seem to be a huge vitali fan, is it true he was knocked down by 2 sparring partners training for the Rahman fight, and that he was advised to cancel one of the times they were suppose to fight. True or False

Suge Green

09-01-2007, 12:09 AM

It seemed more like Peter was trying to test the back of Wlad's head, not his chin. Try again.

I thought WLAD was trying to get him to test his anus, not the back of his head...he kept turning around and bending over whenever he'd get hit with a nice shot. I don't know what he wanted Sam to do...:smoke

H .

09-01-2007, 02:23 AM

I thought WLAD was trying to get him to test his anus, not the back of his head...he kept turning around and bending over whenever he'd get hit with a nice shot. I don't know what he wanted Sam to do...:smoke

:lol:
I'm a Wlad fan but I'm sorry, that's pretty damn funny.

Bigcat

09-01-2007, 06:22 AM

Samuel wont avoid anyone.. he hasn't done so far, why would you suggest it..

He boxed Wlad for no belt last time and came within an ace of winning......

Grabonator

09-01-2007, 06:51 AM

I know that Peter would not avoid anyone but i hope his managers do the same. i Dont know how much King is involved. Gotsev thinks his Peter is god and he thinks he BEATS ANYONE THOUGH.

Dorfmeister

09-01-2007, 08:12 AM

Doesnt Vitali have to beat Mcline first?:-((

Exactly lefthook31 and we know what happens to fighters on the edge and eave of big (money) fights - De La Hoya vs Sturm & Hopkins vs Allen III LV, 2004 - they simply box cautious so that they secure the next fight, plus Vitaly is making a comeback from a long layoff and injuries situation. But focusing on the question at hand, I don't think either Peter or Maskaev can avoid "emeritus" champion Vitaly cause there are papers signed and the WBC involved ( remember Bowe stripped of the WBC belt after Bowe Holyfield Nov 92 and Lewis fighting Tucker for the vacant title in 93)... But there is every reason to believe Peter would fancy a unification fight with Wlad & IBF and/or WBO Champion - remember also that Lou Duva is behind Peter and Kathy Duva's behind Holyfield to get that deal as sure as done.

Blacc Jesus

09-01-2007, 08:20 AM

Heavyrighthand

09-01-2007, 08:29 AM

Heavyrighthand

09-01-2007, 08:35 AM

I don't think either Peter or Maskaev can avoid "emeritus" champion Vitaly cause there are papers signed and the WBC involved ( remember Bowe stripped of the WBC belt after Bowe Holyfield Nov 92 and Lewis fighting Tucker for the vacant title in 93)....

Yeah, and look how the unfair split that King and Duva demanded almost caused THIS certain fight to not happen.

King will pull his usual nonsense cause he thinks he's got Vitail where he wants him, and King will, almost certainly, have his options of future fights thing on the contract................Vitali won't agree to giving King part of his future fights, and it'll all go south. And Suliaman won't force King to make a fair deal, even though its a supposed guarateed titleshot.

But let's hope Oleg beats Peter so we won't have to see how unfair King will try to be to VK.

El Bombasto

09-01-2007, 09:07 AM

he and his people will try and weasel out of fighting Vitali Klitschko. Wait and see.

Probably; I wouldn't be surprised to see fighters like Taurus Sykes elevated to WBC #1 ranked mandatory.

Grabonator

09-01-2007, 09:36 AM

Maskaev will not see Round 6.
BTW i think peter is a different fighter than Tua.
And Tua was a good fighter in his prime who knocked out Maskaev!

Toopretty

09-01-2007, 09:39 AM

I think Peter can take Maskaevs best punch ....I dont think Maskaev can take an accumalation of peters punches.. Maskaev is not some kind of slip and slide defensive genius. Peter was able to stand up to Wlads power....I am going with peter but that is no definite.

Max Molyneux

09-01-2007, 09:45 AM

Grabonator

09-01-2007, 09:49 AM

I could see Maskaev winning a decision over Peter. It took Peter 2 attempts to beat an out of shape Toney legit and no proper HW should let an out of shape ex middle beat them.

Peter has power and a chin but limited In skill.

Is Peter really that any better than Samil Sam?

Toney has beaten Ruiz, Rahman and Holyfield, all Top 10 heavyweights when Toney fought them. And holy is still fighting and gets a titleshot and is good enough to beat up naturall middleclass heavyweights. Toney was doped against Ruiz but i bet he was also roided against Holyfield and Rahman and Peter.

Max Molyneux

09-01-2007, 09:51 AM

Toney has beaten Ruiz, Rahman and Holyfield, all Top 10 heavyweights when Toney fought them. And holy is still fighting and gets a titleshot and is good enough to beat up naturall middleclass heavyweights.

He was In shape for Oldyfield though. No shame to losing to an Inshape ex middle but a fat one who trains on Cigars and sparring Is embarrasing.

RUSKULL

09-01-2007, 10:05 AM

You seem to be a huge vitali fan, is it true he was knocked down by 2 sparring partners training for the Rahman fight, and that he was advised to cancel one of the times they were suppose to fight. True or False

I'm going to go with FALSE. Show me the video, not just some hearsay internet BS. Even if it's true, he had a knee injury, which is the reason he retired rather than face Rahman and dupe the public into thinking he was 100% healthy. You should be thanking him.

RUSKULL

09-01-2007, 10:11 AM

Toney has beaten Ruiz, Rahman and Holyfield, all Top 10 heavyweights when Toney fought them. And holy is still fighting and gets a titleshot and is good enough to beat up naturall middleclass heavyweights. Toney was doped against Ruiz but i bet he was also roided against Holyfield and Rahman and Peter.

Toney didn't beat Rahman, it was a draw even though I & many others believe that Rahman won that fight.

The Holyfield win was a good one but I'm pretty sure Holy wasn't top 10 at that time.

The Ruiz win was also a good one but the fat slob was cheating by using steriods.

Grabonator

09-01-2007, 11:54 AM

Toney didn't beat Rahman, it was a draw even though I & many others believe that Rahman won that fight.

The Holyfield win was a good one but I'm pretty sure Holy wasn't top 10 at that time.

The Ruiz win was also a good one but the fat slob was cheating by using steriods.

Dont you think Toneys using always steroids at heavyweight but mostly gets away with it? He was positive in 3 heavyweight fights, against Ruiz, Booker and Batchelder. He was lucky that he wasnt tested in the others.