Tyson Fury v Oliver McCall [Archive] - East Side Boxing Forum

colinthfc

05-29-2009, 01:09 PM

Claude Abrams, Editor of Boxing News, has suggested this fight as a great step forward for Tyson

However he has gone 1 step forward and put it on the front cover.

DamonD

05-29-2009, 02:13 PM

Then Claude Adams, Editor of Boxing News, is a fucking maniac.

Lewisbell

05-29-2009, 02:18 PM

Man...if this happens, McCall will win on points, Tyson isn't ready for him yet

nufc16

05-29-2009, 03:08 PM

yeah, too early for tyson. id still probably favour him on points though.

kosaros

05-29-2009, 03:22 PM

over 6 rounds I could see Fury having a chance.

David UK

05-29-2009, 05:20 PM

Well even if he does lose he will gain invaluable experience so I think after 2-3 more fights, why not?

sitiyzal

05-29-2009, 05:24 PM

Then Claude Adams, Editor of Boxing News, is a fucking maniac.

Only a noob would say that.

Mr T.

05-29-2009, 07:44 PM

why not. he is 44. fury is frsh and will beat him on points.

Farmboxer

05-30-2009, 02:07 AM

Fury by decision, or he actually could stop McCall by TKO. This is still a dangerous fight for Fury though.

T.C.W

05-30-2009, 02:41 AM

I seen McCall last fight and he looked fit and strong, this guy should have a couple more fights before he fights Oliver.

kieron

05-30-2009, 03:13 AM

I think it would be a great test of Fury's boxing brain and fitness because there's no way he'll be blasting McCall out of there. Would be good for Tyson to get the rounds and experience. Over 6 rnds I'd say Tyson on points but over 8 I dunno, his fitness is far from proven and so is his chin in fairness

Chinny

05-30-2009, 03:19 AM

What the hell is mccall doing still fighting? Mccall v Lewis was the first fight I went to live. I hate seeing the likes of Mccall and Mercer getting beat up as old men.

mcguirpa

05-30-2009, 03:38 AM

What the hell is mccall doing still fighting? Mccall v Lewis was the first fight I went to live. I hate seeing the likes of Mccall and Mercer getting beat up as old men.

McCall ain't exactly been getting beat up though, has he?

Flea Man

05-30-2009, 04:10 AM

This guy is short, but this is McCall's most recent fight, from last week.

If Fury can box for ten rounds and not get overzealous (trying to be the first man to knock McCall over, which he won't be able to do IMO) he CAN win. He'll have to be very careful though, otherwise he'll get outhustled

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Rebel-INS

05-30-2009, 04:22 AM

Fury by decision, or he actually could stop McCall by TKO. This is still a dangerous fight for Fury though.

There is no way in hell he'd stop McCall, even at 44.

Flea Man

05-30-2009, 04:25 AM

There is no way in hell he'd stop McCall, even at 44.

AGREED :good

Robert

05-30-2009, 04:29 AM

the match up reminds of when Haye fought carl thomspon

BodyBlaster

05-30-2009, 08:59 AM

Fucking hell.
Fury has fought no-one yet, and people are suggesting not only should he fight McCall, but that its a foregone conclusion he'd win, and someone even suggested he'd stop him.:nut

He should be allowed no-where near McCall, who could potentially ruin Fury at this stage of his career.
McCall can still really, really punch, and has an iron chin.
He can absorb a beating to land 1 goodnight punch, ask Akinwande.

Horrible, horrible fight for a novice pro.
Some sparring might be an idea, but no way a real fight.

mike464

05-30-2009, 09:06 AM

Tyson Fury is all talk.

Grievesy

05-30-2009, 09:11 AM

Bad idea for him at this stage imo. McCall may be old but the two things that make him dangerous are exactly the things he still has. Power and chin. It would be a huge step up for Fury. He should clear out the domestic scene first before he starts to go after former world champs.

beecho1988

05-30-2009, 03:48 PM

McCall KO 1

CANNONBALL

05-30-2009, 04:44 PM

mccall would kill him dead imo

Words

05-30-2009, 05:15 PM

This has got Carl Thompson written all over it

Farmboxer

05-31-2009, 02:31 AM

Fury can beat McCall, but it is a dangerous fight if McCall lands a lucky punch. It's not worth the risk. Fury needs to get more fight under his belt.

Scotty321

05-31-2009, 02:46 AM

I don't believe in wrapping fighters in cotton wool, especially when they are as mouthy as Tyson Fury.
David Haye learned more from losing to Thompson than he did fighting stiffs.
Same goes for Amir Khan.
He's only 20 and it would be great experience for him. If he wins, then great name on the resume. If he gets hammered then he'll realize he's not the mega fighter he thinks he is.

HomicideHenry

05-31-2009, 02:53 AM

Bad, bad, bad, BAAAAAAAAAAAD move for Fury

McCall wont get kayoed by Tyson Fury, and he's too experienced to be decisioned. Hell this guy just knocked out Hoppoate, and before that lost a decision to Gomez who challenged Vitali for the title.

Way over his head on this one. He needs to fight Price, Rogan, Chisorda, Sexton, Harrison and Williams. Not take a massive leap like this, so early on in his career!

BURNLEYBLUE

05-31-2009, 03:27 AM

Fury can beat McCall, but it is a dangerous fight if McCall lands a lucky punch. It's not worth the risk. Fury needs to get more fight under his belt.
No such thing as a lucky punch mate.
At times Fury looks to worried about whats coming back at him to be able to handle someone with the strength and experience of a Mcall at this stage

achillesthegreat

05-31-2009, 09:34 AM

Poor Hopoate trying to trade with McCall. The guy actually stunned McCall and made him hold for a second. What a nutter. He decided his own fate when he chose to try and stop McCall rather than outpoint him.

McCall would be a perfect fight for Fury if Fury wanted a quick route to the world stage. Going the traditional route would have all the experience building fights Fury would need to prepare him.

If Fury fights Skelton, Rogan, Williams, Sprott, Harrison, Price etc he will have been prepared for all types of fights.

light-welter

05-31-2009, 11:05 AM

Couldn't understand why he was on the front of boxing news, he's getting more exposure than any of the Olympians, including David Price who beat him! I was semi impressed with him in his last fight, but his name has gotten him on the front of magazines and newspapers more than anything.
No point going for Oliver McCall, he should go for the British first.

achillesthegreat

05-31-2009, 11:39 AM

BURNLEYBLUE

05-31-2009, 02:22 PM

Fury does deserve the exposure because he is doing what a prospect should be doing to create that snowball effect. Benn, Tyson and many others have done this. Create a media image but simulataneously fight often and perform.

6 wins, 6 kos and all in 6 months speaks volumes.
:goodyes i agree.And if he carries on just the way he's going,come new year we'll be more equiped to assess where his career is going.
Mcall's to big a leap just yet. Whats the rush? The lad has all the time in the world.

achillesthegreat

05-31-2009, 02:54 PM

:goodyes i agree.And if he carries on just the way he's going,come new year we'll be more equiped to assess where his career is going.
Mcall's to big a leap just yet. Whats the rush? The lad has all the time in the world.

I think we are forgetting just how young this guy is. He is barely a real man. What is he, 21 or something!

I want to see him moved quickly but taking in all the necessary experience. He doesn't have to fight for the title for another few years until he has about 20 fights. However in that time he can fight for the commonwealth, british, european and fight some big british showdowns.

'Ben'

05-31-2009, 04:15 PM

What a statemant it would be to be the first guy to stop McCall in only his sixth fight!

'Ben'

05-31-2009, 04:16 PM

Sebenth fight actually, but still very impressive.

'Ben'

05-31-2009, 04:16 PM

Seventh (spelling error!)

Farmboxer

06-01-2009, 02:05 AM

They should not move Fury too fast, give him a chance to settle down. He hasn't even fought for a year yet. He can beat McCall, but it's still a dangerous fight so early in his career. Not need to fight him quite yet.

p.Townend

06-01-2009, 12:42 PM

He is not anywhere near ready for Mccall.It would ruin his career.

achillesthegreat

06-01-2009, 02:47 PM

He isn't ready for McCall if we are being protective. We are talking about 44 year old heavyweight who in all honesty would be perfect for an sure 8 rounder or he'd be perfect when Fury wants to step up to 10. McCall is durable and will give him the rounds yet he has the power to make him come prepared for the fight and be focused.

FLINT ISLAND

06-01-2009, 04:13 PM

rhinocoote

06-01-2009, 05:09 PM

it certainly was a strange move by claude abrams,putting the suggestion on the front cover.Strange for a boxing man to make a bold statement ,, unusual,,unless he knows something we don't?
and lets not forget hopoate is a second-career rugby player,not that it should lessen mcalls win,,but do's raise questions of quality of opponents?.
i wouldn't write off fury's chances as quick as some of this threads contributers,nor do i think he should take this fight this soon either,but it wouldn't suprise me if they get matched up in a couple of fights away.

Charles White

06-01-2009, 05:53 PM

why pick on the older generation?

Haye done that - with Arthur Williams and Carl Thomspon.

Leave the old guys draw their pension.

Fury should stick to his own generation.

Fury should fight Elijah McCall !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oliver McCalls son

A upcoming unexposed unbeaten heavyweight

He KO Fury :bbb:yep I agree with what you say about Elijah. I think that Elijah would kick Fury's ass, but little McCall still has a lot to learn and he is too inexperienced to be in with a guy like Fury just yet. Give him a few years and we will see. Elijah is a friend of mine, and I wouldn't want to see him mismatched at this early stage of his career.

Farmboxer

06-02-2009, 02:19 AM

Fury is doing great right now and getting better with every fight. He needs more time to mature within a ring. He has a lot of talent, fast hands, big and only 20 years old, incredible.

DamonD

06-02-2009, 06:08 AM

Only a noob would say that.
Then call me Nooby McNoob, son, because I think it's a terrible idea to make Fury fight McCall at the moment.

Unless they could make it a 4-rounder. Unlikely, that.

Farmboxer

06-03-2009, 01:47 AM

I just hope Fury keeps fighting often and moves up fast so we can see how good he really is, but it does take time.

Bigcat

06-03-2009, 09:49 PM

I was with both Elijah and OLiver McCall last week in Las Vegas, Tyson Fury is 2 years away from a fight with anyone of McCalls seasoning, trust me, i think Olivers son Eli would be a better fight for Tyson Fury and in that one i give Elijah the edge.. Tyson Fury would struggle with John Hopoate , the man who just 2 weeks ago was Ko'd by Oliver in 2 rounds.. Trust me..