mundines legacy. "he failed to walk"

[sallywinder]

"he talked the talk, but didnt walk the walk"........

"but when he did, he got ktfo"!!!!




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[ashley]

"he talked the talk, but didnt walk the walk"........

"but when he did, he got ktfo"!!!!




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Geale is a step up for Mundine.....and Mundine won....the best you can do is bring up a fight from 6 years ago :patsch

[T.C.W]

well I think your flat out hater, which I can understand, mundine has a very good career in my book a lot better than I could have imanged when he was talking to the press in may 2000 that he was becoming a fighter. But the next 2 year will let if he become a great fighter in the history of Australian boxing.

[sallywinder]

Geale is a step up for Mundine.....and Mundine won....the best you can do is bring up a fight from 6 years ago :patsch

'a step up'....hehehehe:yep

geale is no siaca, kessler, or ottke. mundine is going backwards. cant you see that? when he fights a world class, top 3 middle, he gets KTFO.

if he would have taken the risk and fought at middle 4 years ago, and fought the best, he may have won. but he hesitated "he who hesitates is lost", and mundine let time go by. it too late. he is slipping.




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[pecks]

How can anyone not see that Mundine has declined?

I don't want to bag out Geale here, but for Mundine to sneak a SD win against him, and for him to actually open up and not get on his bike, well, if thats not the writing on the wall, then I don't know what is.

Against Siaca, he can easily be accused of simply not giving it his all, and even though it was a cowardly loss. It still should have left some hope for his fans that had he have given it a go, it would have been a different story.

This wasn't the case against Geale, and Geale is nowhere near the elite level that people want to see Mundine being associated with.

[WhataRock]

Im impressed and proud of what Mundine has done..its still very remarkable and he continues to be a world class athlete.

But the fact is he thinks and most importantly says he is the best at whatever he does...he hasnt even came close in boxing...and really wasnt in league either, even if you think he was close..what kind of achievement is that really considering the following and talent pool league has compared to other similar sports.

He even has the nerve to compare himself to Don Bradman...who even if you look past the nostalgia and his legendary status is statistically one of the greatest sportsman whoever lived of any sport..When he has even come close to what that man achieved?

Should he just get a free pass just because oh well it's Anthony Mundine...if he doesnt live up to the huge raps he has on himself and his fans seem to thing he deserves..then he should be rightly lampooned.

[WhataRock]

How can anyone not see that Mundine has declined?

I don't want to bag out Geale here, but for Mundine to sneak a SD win against him, and for him to actually open up and not get on his bike, well, if thats not the writing on the wall, then I don't know what is.

Against Siaca, he can easily be accused of simply not giving it his all, and even though it was a cowardly loss. It still should have left some hope for his fans that had he have given it a go, it would have been a different story.

This wasn't the case against Geale, and Geale is nowhere near the elite level that people want to see Mundine being associated with.\

Pretty much agree with that..Dan isnt really world class..He may scrap for this division because it is weak..but mark my words Daniel Geale will be knocked out by someone in the not to distant future...and its quite possibly that someone might not be all that good.

[ashley]

When Mundine started boxing who thought he would win an aussie title....and what about becoming vacant and regular world champ?

Mundine is top 4 in the world in 2 divisions.....thats better than I expected.

All the "I am the best" is about marketing and bums on seats.

[LeonMcS]

The bums on seats argument is one I just don't buy.

Fenech and Tszyu never had to resort to it and did fairly well as I remember.

[sallywinder]

The bums on seats argument is one I just don't buy.

Fenech and Tszyu never had to resort to it and did fairly well as I remember.


eg fucken zactly......


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[ashley]

The bums on seats argument is one I just don't buy.

Fenech and Tszyu never had to resort to it and did fairly well as I remember.

So what is it Leon?

Do you think Mundine thinks he is the best ever?

I dont think Mundine thinks that....he knows there is cash in polarizing the punters

[LeonMcS]

Some people will always do well appealing to the lowest possible denominator.

Its why Dariusz Michalczewski will never be known as a great Light Heavyweight champ.

Fighters legacies are built on results and opposition, not ppv revenue and media coverage.

[ashley]

At the end of the day Mundines histroy will read as follows

3 time world champ

wins over

Bargero
Soliman
Waters
Ellis
Thornberry
Green
Geale
Hamden
Taylor

You guys are just sore that Mundine samshed your old fav fighters....but at the time the fights were on you were going for your old fighter....when he got beaten you then said he was over the hill....fess up haters.

[sallywinder]

At the end of the day Mundines histroy will read as follows

3 time world champ

wins over

Bargero
Soliman
Waters
Ellis
Thornberry
Green
Geale
Hamden
Taylor

You guys are just sore that Mundine samshed your old fav fighters....but at the time the fights were on you were going for your old fighter....when he got beaten you then said he was over the hill....fess up haters.


hahaha. quite happy to barrack for him if he was as good as his word..s.

Bargero
Waters
Ellis
Thornberry
Hamden
Taylor, were past their best (came out of retirement) when they fought mundine....

[nomas]

hahaha. Quite happy to barrack for him if he was as good as his word..s.

Bargero
waters
ellis
thornberry
hamden
taylor, were past their best (came out of retirement) when they fought mundine....

yr just a jealous fag mustang sally go da man

[LeonMcS]

Yes, he did beat Lester...6 years after he'd last fought.

Now I know your taking the piss.

[ashley]

Yes, he did beat Lester...6 years after he'd last fought.

Now I know your taking the piss.

Elis was waiting for a shot at another big fight and Mundine gave him that chance...lester was saying hes going to KTFO of Mundine.

It is fun though getting into verbal stouches about Mundine on the forum :yep

[LeonMcS]

Come on, your saying Ellis sat out waiting for 6 years for one more shot?

The same Ellis who later admitted to skolling shots of Grappa before the fight?

He tempted a washed up name fighter with one final payday. 30+ pounds over Ellis' fighting weight when he was a world title holder.

Thats some achievement.

[WhataRock]

:lol: Ash...didnt you see when Ellis called out Choc?

When I think Mitrevski threw a cheap shot at him?

Lester looked like he had been in daily training since his last fight...at the pub swigging schooners.

[ashley]

Come on, your saying Ellis sat out waiting for 6 years for one more shot?

The same Ellis who later admitted to skolling shots of Grappa before the fight?

He tempted a washed up name fighter with one final payday. 30+ pounds over Ellis' fighting weight when he was a world title holder.

Thats some achievement.

The sooner you face up to the fact that Mundines the best then all these wins will look legit :yep

[LeonMcS]

Tekes recent visit seems to have affected you mentally I fear.

[ashley]

Tekes recent visit seems to have affected you mentally I fear.

Apart from tekes bravado and tuff-guy appearance on these forums he is a very polite respectful gentleman....although I wouldn't like to get on the wrong side of him :bbb

So what I am saying is hes good value and he left my place and I remained unaffected by his troublemaking/ polarizing/ taking the piss style attitude.....well come to think of it maybe not :yep

[teke]

Apart from tekes bravado and tuff-guy appearance on these forums he is a very polite respectful gentleman....although I wouldn't like to get on the wrong side of him :bbb

So what I am saying is hes good value and he left my place and I remained unaffected by his troublemaking/ polarizing/ taking the piss style attitude.....well come to think of it maybe not :yepohhhhhhhhh fuck you mothafucka, noone has ever called me a polite respectful gentleman :twisted::twisted:

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

An interesting contrast is Vic Darchinyan & Anthony Mundine.

Vic's on the cusp of absolute greatness (perhaps legend status) by going for his 7th world title in 3 different weight divisions. Vic doesn't lack any confidence, nor should he. But he doesn't boast about being God's gift and babble out endless baloney.

Mundine on the other hand has won a few 2nd rate belts and goes around telling everyone he is God's gift! Plus a whole heao of other baloney way beyond what he's acheived or ever likely to. Sure he's a great all-round sportsman and a handy fighter, but leave comparisons to Bradman and promises of world dominance to someone who might actually acheive them.

[Marcus]

Mundine is a bad sport.


Hey and guess what Ash, i wont have to say i was wrong about my statement, unlike you :good

[ashley]

Mundine is a bad sport.


Hey and guess what Ash, i wont have to say i was wrong about my statement, unlike you :good

I wonder how many teams protest.....wrong judge, tape coming off, he looked at me funny :rofl

You would never admit your wrong....even when the punch stats come back in favor of Mundine and 3 other judges score the fight to Mundine you will still be right. :tired

Its in the history books now Marcus....Geale lost :deal

No protests from you or his team can change that :deal

[WhataRock]

What were the punch stats?

[TheDuke]

Tekes recent visit seems to have affected you mentally I fear.

...and anally, so the rumour goes

[Marcus]

I wonder how many teams protest.....wrong judge, tape coming off, he looked at me funny :rofl

You would never admit your wrong....even when the punch stats come back in favor of Mundine and 3 other judges score the fight to Mundine you will still be right. :tired

Its in the history books now Marcus....Geale lost :deal

No protests from you or his team can change that :deal


Have i ever said Geale won? I havent. I have bitched about all the other shit that went on but iv never said Geale won.

It was a very close fight, and i havent scored it yet, but it was close enough for me not to say Geale was robbed.

Gee ash, your slipping :-(

[ashley]

Have i ever said Geale won? I havent. I have bitched about all the other shit that went on but iv never said Geale won.

It was a very close fight, and i havent scored it yet, but it was close enough for me not to say Geale was robbed.

Gee ash, your slipping :-(

If you think this is bad you should read the other post I just wrote :hey

[Marcus]

If you think this is bad you should read the other post I just wrote :hey

If i have too :lol:

[ashley]

What were the punch stats?

Mundine was infront in power punches and punches landed.....Na just kidding

Ray is doing the punch stats on his computer and we should know mid next week....so Iam sure Ray will let everybody know the results :good

[flamengo]

At the end of it, Mundine needs to give the people the shits..... just to keep us viewing. On a world scale, he's a pretender. The only ppv crowds are here for him.

All the promises, deals, speculation and expectancies have fallen flat on their faces.

I wonder how he'll go in attempting to gain a bout in the USA. The yanks will take one look at Khoder and slam the door shut. Any clever opponent, if a fight eventuates there, will drag up the pathetic 'post 9/11' diatribe that spewed from Mundines mouth. Then they'll take another look at the Arab standing beside him... Door slams again.

Are the yanks racist??? Yes. SIMPLE.

Am I racist??? No, I hate everyone equally!!

[Angry Fight Fan]

At the end of the day Mundines histroy will read as follows

3 time world champ

wins over

Bargero
Soliman
Waters
Ellis
Thornberry
Green
Geale
Hamden
Taylor

You guys are just sore that Mundine samshed your old fav fighters....but at the time the fights were on you were going for your old fighter....when he got beaten you then said he was over the hill....fess up haters.


Three time world titlist is more accurate, world champion suggests that he was the best in the world at three different periods in time which he has never been once.
Out of those wins, Bargero was impressive at the time considering the difference in experience. Soliman won the first fight, I don't care what anyone says and the same can be said about Geale IMO. The two wins in the rematches over Soliman are among Mundines best wins as is the Echols one which you left out (even though Echols was never that good) as well as the obvious win over Green. I also give Mundine credit for the Thornberry win as Thornberry was a good fighter in this country when they fought and he came to fight.
As for the others, Waters was years past his best and never had the super middleweight frame, he had to kill himself to boil down to that weight as he fought as a cruiserweight or light heavyweight for most of his career. Don't even mention Lester Ellis, the thought of that freakshow makes me sick. Hamdan and Taylor were both naturally smaller then Mundine and way past their best.
Mundine's had a good pro career, but as far as being one of the greatest this country has seen or what not, nah, not a chance. His record doesn't compare to the likes of Darcy, Fenech, Tszyu or Rose, let alone Richards, Thompson or his old man.

[THN]

The "man" Mouthdine, step up or shut up!

[ranser]

What's the bet Mundine will find some journeyman at middleweight from a south east Asian country or Japan ranked 150th in the world and begin the whole merry go round spin of preparing for a big showdown with AA , Pavlik , Wright or Sturm.. The saga continues..
It's just a merry go round game that Mundine is playing with the aussie public.
It's a never ending cycle.

[teke]

Out of those wins, Bargero was impressive at the time considering the difference in experience. Soliman won the first fight, I don't care what anyone says and the same can be said about Geale IMO. .Disagree.

[ashley]

The "man" Mouthdine, step up or shut up!

How are you going mate?

Is Kess still running from the man :lol:

[Angry Fight Fan]

Disagree.

Which part?

[ashley]

Which part?

About the Geale fight :patsch

[Angry Fight Fan]

I'm interested to know which rounds people scored for Mundine. If one of you could please enlighten me.....

[teke]

Which part?about the Soliman and Geale fights

[Angry Fight Fan]

I haven't got the Soliman fight handy (its on VHS somewhere in 'the pile'), but the Geale fight is on youtube so I could have a squiz. Which rounds did you score for Mundine, I'm dying to know what rounds people gave him.

[teke]

I haven't got the Soliman fight handy (its on VHS somewhere in 'the pile'), but the Geale fight is on youtube so I could have a squiz. Which rounds did you score for Mundine, I'm dying to know what rounds people gave him.I gave him more rounds than i gave Geale

[Angry Fight Fan]

Yeah.... which ones. You can't go and call out my scoring and then not back it up. My scorecard's right here:

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Where am I wrong?

[teke]

Yeah.... which ones. You can't go and call out my scoring and then not back it up. My scorecard's right here:

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Where am I wrong?Thats a good scorecard

[LeonMcS]

Stop it teke, you're messing with my head!

[THN]

How are you going mate?

Is Kess still running from the man :lol:

Fine!
:lol: No he's running from Palle :good
To me it looks like Mundine having a stamina problem, keep him away from the top dogs in MW. But i'm sure he wont come near them anyway! :D

[ashley]

Fine!
:lol: No he's running from Palle :good
To me it looks like Mundine having a stamina problem, keep him away from the top dogs in MW. But i'm sure he wont come near them anyway! :D

Dont know about stamina problems.....he did throw more punches in his last fight over 12 rounds than he has in his others.

I dont thnik hes looking at the top 3 mate.....they are a level above him IMO.