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RayKelly
05-31-2009, 01:45 AM
Just wanted to let all trainers and fighters know that I'll be in Melbourne next weekend doing VO2max treadmill tests. This is great for giving exact heart rate training zones for improving aerobic and/or anaerobic fitness.
I'll be out at Keith's new place on Saturday, and in the city on Sunday. It takes 30 minutes to complete, including warm up, actual test is about 15 minutes, and costs $100 (usual cost at universities or sporting institutes is $300-$400).

If you're keen to send someone along send me a message.

Cheers,
Ray

Francis75
05-31-2009, 02:48 AM
Sounds like a big waste of money Ray.

RayKelly
05-31-2009, 03:47 AM
I'd love to hear your reasoning.

Ray

WhataRock
05-31-2009, 07:01 AM
Are you kidding me Francis look at that saving!!

RayKelly
05-31-2009, 08:28 PM
I was interested in hearing your reasoning because this is seen as the gold standard in fitness testing, and with the amount of running many fighters do they can significantly improve their perormance, and often reduce the amount of time they spend training just through making their training more specific to their own body.

Can you get by without it? Of course you can. But it will make your training more specific to yourself and your current fitness level, and will greatly decrease the chance of undertraining or overtraining. The information you get gives you a base-point to measure how productive your training has been, and also gives you an accurate point to be providing regular, measured overload so you can be increasing your fitness in a safe and effective manner.

Fortunately for me, most athletes and trainers agree that its well worth the money.

Ray

WhataRock
05-31-2009, 09:33 PM
How do you find the impact it has specifically on boxers Ray?

What kind of sportsman would see the most benefit of doing this?

RayKelly
05-31-2009, 10:24 PM
As it is done on a treadmill it is obviously more specific to those who compete in running events, but as many fighters use running to get their weight down as well as to work on their Central Circulatory System (Heart, Lungs, etc), and there is a good transfer for fighters. They certainly need to do the high intesity boxing work to go along with it though :)

Most of the fighters I deal with are often blown away by the difference in intensity between what the test shows them they can handle, and what they have previously been doing.

I have actually designed a more specific test for boxers, The Boxing Beep Test, but the apparatus is still being fine-tuned.

Marcus
05-31-2009, 10:26 PM
VO2 is a great way to see if your at with your road work.

Most boxers will score shithouse unless they put some major fucking time with running.

Iv read a little about this, you need to run for over a hour, 6 times a week to get anywhere new your max VO2 rating.

Id love to try this, thanks for posting it Ray.

p.s im in tassie, so cant do it ray.

RayKelly
06-01-2009, 05:57 AM
VO2 is a great way to see if your at with your road work.

Most boxers will score shithouse unless they put some major fucking time with running.

Iv read a little about this, you need to run for over a hour, 6 times a week to get anywhere new your max VO2 rating.

Id love to try this, thanks for posting it Ray.

p.s im in tassie, so cant do it ray.

Hi Marcus,

There are a number of ways of improving your VO2max, and we can do it with much shorter work than that. I get to test quite a number of fighters and their scores usually range between 60ml/kg/min and 70ml/kg/min, which is quite nice for any athlete (a competitive Triathlete would aim for between 70-80 and they do loads of endurane training.

Given that boxing is more an Anaerobic Endurance sport, it's the aerobic threshold info that is most important. If we can increase that we can improve the fighter's ability to work at a high intensity aerobically, as well as recover quickly from any bursts they have during a fight. Obviously the effectiveness of this will depend on the type of boxing specific work that is done too.

I've just put up a printout from the test here: [Only registered and activated users can see links]

The graph is your heart rate plotted alongside your ventilation (breathing).

If you can get me some bookings in Tassie I'd love to come down. I came down to the Australian Rowing Championships a number of years ago and loved it.

Ray

rusty nails
06-01-2009, 07:18 AM
whens it coming to sydney ray?

LeonMcS
06-01-2009, 07:29 AM
It was scheduled to go to Tassie but they couldn't find anywhere to plug it in.

RayKelly
06-01-2009, 07:30 AM
whens it coming to sydney ray?

I'm based in Sydney. Send me a message if you're keen.

Ray

ashley
06-01-2009, 07:34 AM
It was scheduled to go to Tassie but they couldn't find anywhere to plug it in.

:rofl:rofl:rofl

Marcus
06-02-2009, 02:37 AM
It was scheduled to go to Tassie but they couldn't find anywhere to plug it in.


only a uneducated hater like ashley would laugh at this shitty joke.

we (tassie) sell power to the mainland states. :deal did u know that?

Marcus
06-02-2009, 02:39 AM
Hi Marcus,

There are a number of ways of improving your VO2max, and we can do it with much shorter work than that. I get to test quite a number of fighters and their scores usually range between 60ml/kg/min and 70ml/kg/min, which is quite nice for any athlete (a competitive Triathlete would aim for between 70-80 and they do loads of endurane training.

Given that boxing is more an Anaerobic Endurance sport, it's the aerobic threshold info that is most important. If we can increase that we can improve the fighter's ability to work at a high intensity aerobically, as well as recover quickly from any bursts they have during a fight. Obviously the effectiveness of this will depend on the type of boxing specific work that is done too.

I've just put up a printout from the test here: [Only registered and activated users can see links]

The graph is your heart rate plotted alongside your ventilation (breathing).

If you can get me some bookings in Tassie I'd love to come down. I came down to the Australian Rowing Championships a number of years ago and loved it.

Ray

Ill look into it Ray, but it would be for state level tennis players, not boxers. I have more contacts in tennis then boxing now, so ill see if they are keen.

RayKelly
06-02-2009, 03:28 AM
Great. Just let me know

Ray