Top 50 Dark Horses

[Russell]

What fighters are undoubtely among the top 50-75 all time and yet are rarely mentioned?

How about Jack "Nonpareil" Dempsey? One of the most admired of his time, almost forgotten today.

Tommy Gibbons? Debately the only other man to beat Tunney besides Greb, and Gibbons also beat Greb himself.

Billy Miske? Knocked out heavyweights Fred Fulton and Willie Meehan almost back to back in one round a piece. Miske was nearly on his death bed by this time. He also beat the likes of Gibbons and took Dempsey to a draw.

Maxim? Beat both the middleweight and heavyweight champions of the world. Quite the accomplishment.

Agnott? Took Pep's 0 and registered some other great wins.

[WhataRock]

McGovern or Corbett fit the bill?

[Russell]

McGovern or Corbett fit the bill?

Very much so.

Do you feel McGovern legitmately knocked out Gans? As Janitor said, the weight difference there would make that a feat almost unequaled in bosying history.

[asero]

loydd marshall...not even a hall of famer

[HomicideHenry]

Charlie Burley

[My2Sense]

Harold Johnson, without a doubt.

[My2Sense]

Tommy Gibbons? Debately the only other man to beat Tunney besides Greb, and Gibbons also beat Greb himself.



When did that happen?

[JohnThomas1]

When did that happen?

In Tommy's last fight. Tho the record shows KO12 for Tunney Russell once heard Gibbons won. And that's all she wrote.

[Russell]

In Tommy's last fight. Tho the record shows KO12 for Tunney Russell once heard Gibbons won. And that's all she wrote.

I actually meant Tommy Loughran. I get the two mixed up.

The more credible papers of the time were for Loughram in their NC fight.

My mistake. :verysad

[mcvey]

What fighters are undoubtely among the top 50-75 all time and yet are rarely mentioned?

How about Jack "Nonpareil" Dempsey? One of the most admired of his time, almost forgotten today.

Tommy Gibbons? Debately the only other man to beat Tunney besides Greb, and Gibbons also beat Greb himself.

Billy Miske? Knocked out heavyweights Fred Fulton and Willie Meehan almost back to back in one round a piece. Miske was nearly on his death bed by this time. He also beat the likes of Gibbons and took Dempsey to a draw.

Maxim? Beat both the middleweight and heavyweight champions of the world. Quite the accomplishment.

Agnott? Took Pep's 0 and registered some other great wins.

There are a number of uncharacteristic spelling mistakes in your posts,have you drink taken?
Anyway.
Jack Dillon
Billy Petrolle
Pete Herman
Jack Delaney
George Kid Lavigne
Mike Gibbons
Sammy Mandell
Fidel Labarba
Frankie Genaro
Owen Moran
Freddie Welsh.
All worth a sort through.

[PowerPuncher]

Holman Williams deserves a shout, he started at lightweight winning the 'Negro LW Title' there, went all the way to LHW with wins over greats like Archie Moore, Burley, Cocoa Kid, Lloyd Marshall and other top contenders like Booker, Leto, Chase, Wade many of these he fought/beat multiple times. He had close fights with Cerdan and Lamotta at the age of 34 and 160 fights into his career. All in all his career was: won 146 (KO 36) + lost 30 (KO 3) + drawn 11 = 188 fighting at a very high level for the most of it.

On topic Booker and Chase are some underrated kingpins themselves

[Sweet Pea]

Lou Ambers.

[good right hand]

two boxers that i think deserve a mention

-pascual perez

rarely rarely mentioned but great fighter winning both olympic gold and was the flyweight best for four years.

-beau jack

tough world champion that beat many good and great fighters, may have had the record of times a fighter fought in a main event at madison square garden.

[My2Sense]

I actually meant Tommy Loughran. I get the two mixed up.



Either one could probably qualify for this thread.

They both hold wins over Harry Greb, incidentally.

[Russell]

Looking for some more discussion here.

[cotto20]

Jimmy young and bennie brisco are both very underarted and should both be in the hall of fame

[Dempsey1238]

Jack Delany

Willie Ritchie

Rocky Kansas perhaps?

[TIGEREDGE]

in recent times:

buster douglas
gerrry penasola
bomber graham
mike mccallum
nate cambell

[Flea Man]

I personally wouldn't rank Graham and Douglas in my top 100, nor Nate Campbell at this stage.

Penelosa I'll give you that, underrated lwoer-weight fighter :good

[My2Sense]

Willie Ritchie


Good call.

I'd like to add:

Frank Klaus
Mike O'Dowd
Battling Battalino