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robpalmer135
06-01-2009, 05:51 AM
Here is mine.

No matter what is being paid to a fighter, 25% of each purse should be put into a pot and go to the winner of the fight.

This way any fighter that was previously showing up just to get a pay cheque, will not just show up to loose and all fights would be more competative.

mrbassie
06-01-2009, 06:05 AM
That's a good one.

ine is go back to 15 rounds. Hardly original but there you go

JIM KELLY
06-01-2009, 06:22 AM
13th round.

steveng
06-01-2009, 06:22 AM
one belt per division

T.C.W
06-01-2009, 06:30 AM
:happy:happy:happy:happyone belt per division

abzmanc
06-01-2009, 06:30 AM
Have a single boxing organisation internationally as in pretty much all other sports, ie FIFA in Football, ICC in Cricket etc

kosaros
06-01-2009, 06:31 AM
Promoters to ask for less money to put boxing on terrestrial television. I am sure they could gain most of the money back they would be losing from advertising, because the advertisements would be seen by a much larger audience.

pathmanc1986
06-01-2009, 06:41 AM
Have a single boxing organisation internationally as in pretty much all other sports, ie FIFA in Football, ICC in Cricket etc



the single greatest problem in the sport.

Grant1
06-01-2009, 06:53 AM
Get Flint on with Buncey to talk about Adam Booths 'energy'.

abzmanc
06-01-2009, 06:54 AM
the single greatest problem in the sport.

I agree.. it seems to be the same in all combat sports ie pretty much all martial arts suffer from the same thing in some way shape or form.

El Cepillo
06-01-2009, 06:56 AM
That's a good one.

ine is go back to 15 rounds. Hardly original but there you go

For what reason?

El Cepillo
06-01-2009, 06:56 AM
10% of boxers purses to be deducted by the British boxing board of control and invested into a pension fund.

Great idea. :good

pathmanc1986
06-01-2009, 06:58 AM
I agree.. it seems to be the same in all combat sports ie pretty much all martial arts suffer from the same thing in some way shape or form.


thats cos of all the greedy hangers on involved.


heres another one

-a professional fighter must have a coach, a manager


AND


promoters should only be hired once a fight is signed- to promote it, rather than the current situation where they call all the shots

Broxi
06-01-2009, 07:44 AM
To add to the one belt, one organisation...

The organisation in charge arranges title fights based on current form, the purse is split 60-40 in favour of the champ plus rematch clause, so, for example, if the current WW champ is Floyd Jr and Miguel Cotto is the man on the up and up, then the fight is made ... no ifs, no buts and no haggling over details.

That would make an interesting situation in the HWs with the Klits.

GazOC
06-01-2009, 07:53 AM
One belt per weight.

ishy
06-01-2009, 08:18 AM
Here is mine.

No matter what is being paid to a fighter, 25% of each purse should be put into a pot and go to the winner of the fight.

This way any fighter that was previously showing up just to get a pay cheque, will not just show up to loose and all fights would be more competative.

10% of boxers purses to be deducted by the British boxing board of control and invested into a pension fund.

Have a single boxing organisation internationally as in pretty much all other sports, ie FIFA in Football, ICC in Cricket etc

One belt per weight.


All top ideas :good

My idea: Get rid of PPV's, more top class boxing on terrestial telly even if it's just highlights (technically that's two ideas but...).

kieron
06-01-2009, 09:22 AM
Stick Rupert Murdoch behind bars and abolish Sky. TV problems solved!

onourway
06-01-2009, 09:27 AM
Stricter rules on clinching.

Beeston Brawler
06-01-2009, 09:44 AM
All good suggestions.

I have a few.......

Scrap the Commonwealth title
Scrap the English title
One single world governing body, with independent regional bodies
Fewer weight divisions
One title in each weight division
All defences of all titles are mandatory - no voluntary

TommyV
06-01-2009, 09:51 AM
I honestly am not in favour of the 1 belt per division idea. I like the idea of unifying belts. But it should be limited only to the WBC/WBA/IBF & WBO. Get rid off all the other organizations, regional belts like the NABF are fine for me but not all this WBU/WBF/IBO/IBA/IBC bullshit where fighters claim they are world champions like Willie Limond & Ricky Hatton.

Just find something to make unifications more likely to happen. Also get rid of the Super Champion, Emeritus Champion, Regular Champion, Interim Champion, Champion In Recess rubbish, just 1 champion per belt which is the biggest problem, I mean the WBA have 3 champions in some weight classes.

Evil Rich
06-01-2009, 09:56 AM
All good suggestions.

I have a few.......

Scrap the Commonwealth title
Scrap the English title
One single world governing body, with independent regional bodies
Fewer weight divisions
One title in each weight division
All defences of all titles are mandatory - no voluntary

Some people just can never play by the rules can they :patsch

My ONE idea:

Do away with promoters (yes I know it is impossible) and have a "stable" so to speak where you have match organisers, promoters and one belt for that "stable" (kind of like how the UFC operates). This way the best fights can be made, no one can complain of ducking (well apart from some of the dicks on this forum) and there is always 1 clear champion of each weight. This could be seperated too, into an almost league system (ie you could have British, American, Mexican divisions etc. etc. and the top fighters go into a "World" division)

Grievesy
06-01-2009, 09:59 AM
I honestly am not in favour of the 1 belt per division idea. I like the idea of unifying belts. But it should be limited only to the WBC/WBA/IBF & WBO. Get rid off all the other organizations, regional belts like the NABF are fine for me but not all this WBU/WBF/IBO/IBA/IBC bullshit where fighters claim they are world champions like Willie Limond & Ricky Hatton.

Just find something to make unifications more likely to happen. Also get rid of the Super Champion, Emeritus Champion, Regular Champion, Interim Champion, Champion In Recess rubbish, just 1 champion per belt which is the biggest problem, I mean the WBA have 3 champions in some weight classes.

Yeah, I agree. I quite like the idea of unifiying a division. Howver I'd drop the WBO aswell and just go with WBC, WBA and IBF.

Beeston Brawler
06-01-2009, 10:00 AM
I hear you Tommy..... but as opposed to unifying titles, you would simply be taking on the #1 guy all the time rather than possible paper champions etc.

World title eliminators would actually be meaningful, rather than just a joke as they are now.

Same with British titles..... not trying to disparage any fighter but some of the British champions aren't up to much at all - nor are some EBU ones for that matter.

El Cepillo
06-01-2009, 10:25 AM
Have a transparent, independent body that regulates a single, established, recognized and legitimate ranking system in each weight class. Enforce that system so only worthy opponents get shots at the title.

Darni187
06-01-2009, 10:37 AM
Someone put a hit out on this person named 'Frank ******' once his is out of the way things will improve alot. :yep

mrbassie
06-01-2009, 10:47 AM
For what reason?

Less likely to be a draw, more interesting pace to a fight than in twelve rounders, more strategy required, force fighters to get into better condition.

mrbassie
06-01-2009, 10:49 AM
One belt per weight.

bbbc should pick a body and not recognise any of the others. That'd stop all the wbo/wbu nonsense and increase the value of the brit, Euro and c'wealth titles

ishy
06-01-2009, 10:52 AM
Someone put a hit out on this person named 'Frank ******' once his is out of the way things will improve alot. :yep

Terry Marsh allegedly failed :-(

ishy
06-01-2009, 10:55 AM
bbbc should pick a body and not recognise any of the others. That'd stop all the wbo/wbu nonsense and increase the value of the brit, Euro and c'wealth titles

They did that before. First they only recognised the WBC and not the WBA. Then they recognised the WBC and WBA but not the IBF. Then ****** threatened them with legal action or threatened to set up his own boxing body in the UK which would sanction IBF fights. Something like that (someone like Gaz ot TBooze will know more about this).

So the BBBofC backed down in the end.

mrbassie
06-01-2009, 11:18 AM
They did that before. First they only recognised the WBC and not the WBA. Then they recognised the WBC and WBA but not the IBF. Then ****** threatened them with legal action or threatened to set up his own boxing body in the UK which would sanction IBF fights. Something like that (someone like Gaz ot TBooze will know more about this).

So the BBBofC backed down in the end.

Time for a rematch them methinks. Would ****** have actually been able to do that?

slip&counter
06-01-2009, 11:24 AM
not a chance of getting rid of the alphabet soup organisations and therefore getting one champ in each division

i would go back to 15 rounds but only for championship fights
more terestrial TV coverage

ishy
06-01-2009, 11:24 AM
Time for a rematch them methinks. Would ****** have actually been able to do that?

No idea...

bored
06-01-2009, 11:27 AM
Yellow cards like Pride!

or less weight classes.

slip&counter
06-01-2009, 11:55 AM
bored, what the f%ck is pride?

ishy
06-01-2009, 11:55 AM
^Some MMA shit.

sugarrayhatton
06-01-2009, 11:57 AM
Get rid of John ruiz

Grievesy
06-01-2009, 11:58 AM
bored, what the f%ck is pride?

Yeah it was an MMA promotion from Japan. If a fighter used illegal blows or wasn't pushing the fight and stalling they got a yellow card which deducted like 10% of their purse.

sugarrayhatton
06-01-2009, 11:59 AM
Also, a weight limit of some sort should be put on the heavyweight division, or a body fat to weight ratio, to stop all the fat ass heavies standing there throwing 5 punches per round and being exhausted after 6. Every man who cannot make the ratio should go into a new "fat Bastard" division

robpalmer135
06-01-2009, 01:16 PM
My dream would be theres a Russian millionaire (like Roman Abramovic) and he goes and buys the WBA, WBC, WBO and IBF.

He then orders all current mandatories to be negotiated or go to purse bids within 60 days. Fight must take place within 6 months.

After the mandos take place they have 60 days to negotiate a fight between the WBA and WBC Champions, and the IBF and WBO champions. These must take place within 6 months.

Then the winner of those fights must agree terms or go to purse bids within 60 day. Fight must take place within 6 months.

If any of these fighters our injured they automaticly get a number 1 spot.

There would be a new ranking system. Each champion has to fight twice a year, one voluntary agaisnt a top 5 fighter and mandatory agaisnt the number 1 contender. There would be eliminators for the number 1 and 2 spots often.

If you are the European, African, South American, North American, Aisan champion, you will get an automatic top 10 spot in the rankings and be able to position yourself for a world title shot. You would not be able to fight for a world title if you had not won your continental title, and you would not be able to win a continental title without winning your domestic title. All belts would follow the same rules and ranking system as the world title.

The commonwealth title would be dropped.

robpalmer135
06-01-2009, 01:16 PM
Same day weigh ins would be a good one. Would make fight fairer.

jonnyfartpants
06-01-2009, 02:50 PM
Lose the gloves.

TheUzi
06-01-2009, 03:22 PM
Have 3 decent fights per bill

GPater11093
06-01-2009, 04:03 PM
Yeah, I agree. I quite like the idea of unifiying a division. Howver I'd drop the WBO aswell and just go with WBC, WBA and IBF.

i would only have the WBC and the WBA like the old days but ideally 1 title per weight

Have a transparent, independent body that regulates a single, established, recognized and legitimate ranking system in each weight class. Enforce that system so only worthy opponents get shots at the title.

:good exactly. I use this logic but determining the lineages of the titles by using Ring ratings so when the lineage is lost through retirement you have to wait for Number 1 to fight number 2.

I only recognise my linear champs really belts these days man nothing.

bbbc should pick a body and not recognise any of the others. That'd stop all the wbo/wbu nonsense and increase the value of the brit, Euro and c'wealth titles

that wouldnt work all that means is you would get less 'world' title fights in Britain but if the NY or LV states did it it would make a diffeence

They did that before. First they only recognised the WBC and not the WBA. Then they recognised the WBC and WBA but not the IBF. Then ****** threatened them with legal action or threatened to set up his own boxing body in the UK which would sanction IBF fights. Something like that (someone like Gaz ot TBooze will know more about this).

So the BBBofC backed down in the end.

yeh ****** started his own organisation to recognise them so the BBBoC wouldnt be able to recognise the title as another British orgnaisation had the fnchise so to speak

Also, a weight limit of some sort should be put on the heavyweight division, or a body fat to weight ratio, to stop all the fat ass heavies standing there throwing 5 punches per round and being exhausted after 6. Every man who cannot make the ratio should go into a new "fat Bastard" division

i like it

My dream would be theres a Russian millionaire (like Roman Abramovic) and he goes and buys the WBA, WBC, WBO and IBF.

He then orders all current mandatories to be negotiated or go to purse bids within 60 days. Fight must take place within 6 months.

After the mandos take place they have 60 days to negotiate a fight between the WBA and WBC Champions, and the IBF and WBO champions. These must take place within 6 months.

Then the winner of those fights must agree terms or go to purse bids within 60 day. Fight must take place within 6 months.

If any of these fighters our injured they automaticly get a number 1 spot.

There would be a new ranking system. Each champion has to fight twice a year, one voluntary agaisnt a top 5 fighter and mandatory agaisnt the number 1 contender. There would be eliminators for the number 1 and 2 spots often.

If you are the European, African, South American, North American, Aisan champion, you will get an automatic top 10 spot in the rankings and be able to position yourself for a world title shot. You would not be able to fight for a world title if you had not won your continental title, and you would not be able to win a continental title without winning your domestic title. All belts would follow the same rules and ranking system as the world title.

The commonwealth title would be dropped.

no love for the Commonwealth



my idea is one Champ per weight
Same day weigh ins would be a good one. Would make fight fairer.

colinthfc
06-01-2009, 04:17 PM
3 belts per division, but only the top no.1 belt as the recognised World championship, and 2 lessor belts in descending order.

World Championship
Inter-Continental
International

PaddyD1983
06-01-2009, 04:57 PM
more top class boxing on terrestial telly

:good

Not even top class boxing. Just more boxing!

robpalmer135
06-01-2009, 05:22 PM
3 belts per division, but only the top no.1 belt as the recognised World championship, and 2 lessor belts in descending order.

World Championship
Inter-Continental
International



fuck that. jsut have eliminators.

Guy
06-01-2009, 05:27 PM
one belt per division


In one!!

Carnage
06-01-2009, 05:47 PM
If its a SD, have a sudden death round where its ONLY below the belt.

rhinocoote
06-01-2009, 05:48 PM
i love it just the way it is,,

although it would be great to make champions have to take an "away" defense in 1 out of every 3 fights perhaps?-it would make boxing have a far more global appeal.

Vantage_West
06-01-2009, 06:10 PM
i love it just the way it is,,

although it would be great to make champions have to take an "away" defense in 1 out of every 3 fights perhaps?-it would make boxing have a far more global appeal.i like that.

true world champions.

also that can get local fighters on the undercard. i would give great kudos to someone who defended in ghana for example.

rhinocoote
06-01-2009, 06:19 PM
i like that.

true world champions.

also that can get local fighters on the undercard. i would give great kudos to someone who defended in ghana for example.


yep,imagine some of the "big names" we could get fighting in less-fought countries,inspirational for any undercard fighter.

travelling champions!-(prise them out of germany)-(lol)

Vantage_West
06-01-2009, 08:37 PM
yep,imagine some of the "big names" we could get fighting in less-fought countries,inspirational for any undercard fighter.

travelling champions!-(prise them out of germany)-(lol)
or plonk them into germany if they havnt paid a visit. :lol:


anyone thinking of odd numbered rounds?
5 rounds
7 rounds
9 rounds
11 rounds
13 rounds

or maybe the other way round. with 3 rounds enstead...this gives amatuers a stepping stone into the pro ranks.

it just seems so puzzling to have a equal amount of rounds...more chance of a draw. and stops bickering?

robpalmer135
06-02-2009, 03:33 AM
get rid of 4 rounders.

Chinny
06-02-2009, 09:21 AM
Restrict promoters ability to take options on opponents as a condition of them accepting a fight with said promoters boxer.
A promoter can sign a fighter to a promotional deal or not. Do not make it contingent on beating the house fighter.

Case in point: Breidis Prescott

maxwell-jr
06-02-2009, 04:59 PM
Have an internationally approved committee affiliated with every government that permits the sport in their country!

NO MAS
06-02-2009, 07:45 PM
Some people just can never play by the rules can they :patsch

My ONE idea:

Do away with promoters (yes I know it is impossible) and have a "stable" so to speak where you have match organisers, promoters and one belt for that "stable" (kind of like how the UFC operates). This way the best fights can be made, no one can complain of ducking (well apart from some of the dicks on this forum) and there is always 1 clear champion of each weight. This could be seperated too, into an almost league system (ie you could have British, American, Mexican divisions etc. etc. and the top fighters go into a "World" division)

Getting rid of the promoters is a great idea... doing business the way that RJ Jnr and JC did business was great... a few txt msgs and phone calls and the promoters were out of it..fight on with all th egreenbacks going to the fighters...:happy

I think that having the weigh in's at lunchtime on the day of the fight should come back... none of this day before the fight...as most put 7-11lb on... it would make it more of a level playing field for conditioning and having to do the weight proper...:good

doug.ie
06-02-2009, 08:07 PM
no late replacements.

as a boxing fan i dont want that as an excuse for a losing boxer...i want as level a playing field as possible.

gasman
06-02-2009, 08:16 PM
Announce the full bill at least 6 weeks in advance, no more of this last minute confirmations of opponents or postponements etc.

gasman
06-02-2009, 08:19 PM
Put Hatton, De la Hoya, Khan, Limond, McCloskey, Witter, et al in a prize fighter bill. That would be sweet.

rooq
06-02-2009, 09:57 PM
force boxers to fight at their natural weight by having same day weigh-in's and ensuring they are safely hydrated.

p.Townend
06-03-2009, 03:46 AM
:happy:happy:happy:happy
And sort out the ratings system so fighters who have done nothing to deserve a title fight dont get them.

Laikaka
06-03-2009, 12:10 PM
Strongly agree about ratings. They have to be prominent in the sport so when a title fight is announced fans can easily cross reference to see where or if the challenger is rated.

One idea each...In that case if I were schizophrenic other ideas I might include would be to crackdown on drug users - we are talking about opponents lives facing an added, unnatural danger. Also, proper controlling of fight time weight differences between opponents. Certainly only one world champion per division too.