View Full Version : Prime Hipp vs. Comeback Foreman-paint me a picture
Charles White
06-02-2009, 08:17 PM
I think we all know who would win this, that much is clear, but I am curious as to how you guys view this fight playing out. Hipp was a tough sonnuvabitch, but lacked the conditioning and overall skill to be a champ. Still, I think he could have given a good fight vs. Comeback George. They were supposed to fight at one point, but Foreman refused. Hipp regrets not being able to fight him to this day. So how about it fellas, how does a fight between these two play out?
Charles White
06-02-2009, 08:44 PM
anybody?
raiderjay
06-02-2009, 09:07 PM
I'm from Washington and I'm a huge Foreman fan, so I'll give it a go. I think that George keeps Joe at bay with his jab early on, looking to land an uppercut. Joe's eyes start swelling during the ring entrance.
By the 2nd round Joe figures out how to get on the inside a little bit and use his considerable bulk to stay there without getting tied up and lands some decent hooks to Foreman's head.
Meanwhile George is making Joe's eyes swell to the point that he can't see by the 4th round or so and really starts to land some nasty shots. By the 7th round Joe is getting rocked pretty badly but refuses to go down and the fight is stopped by the ref.
Unless of course it's Frank Cappucino that's the ref (one of my favorites) and then poor Joe get's TKO'd in the tenth.
Charles White
06-02-2009, 09:13 PM
Thanks jay. whereabouts in WA?
HomicideHenry
06-02-2009, 09:21 PM
It would go eight-nine rounds, with it being fairly competitive for the first few stanzas, but George lands more often. Hipp takes alot, but can give some too. But those moments come too far inbetween, and Hipp is stopped.
raiderjay
06-02-2009, 09:25 PM
I live in Orting. I know it sounds incredibly cosmopolitan! I like the view of Mt. Rainier though.
WhataRock
06-02-2009, 10:12 PM
Here is the best picture I could paint for you..
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mr. magoo
06-02-2009, 10:20 PM
Here is the best picture I could paint for you..
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LOL:lol:
You beat me to it
mr. magoo
06-02-2009, 10:21 PM
On a serious note, I don't see this fight amounting to much. I think comeback Foreman does a pretty good number on Joe Hipp.
The Mighty One
06-03-2009, 12:30 AM
This fight was actually set a couple of times. Hipp would have been tough for George but Foreman would have won this on his heavy jab believe it or not. A decision.
I thought that Hipp would have had a chance against Tyson because he had no fear and had a great uppercut from the southpaw stance.
Russell
06-03-2009, 01:13 AM
Hipp gave hell to almost everyone he fought through sheer grit and guts.
But he had the worst issue with swelling as any fighter I've ever seen. I don't know what the hell it was. Maybe because he was native american? No idea.
Anyway, that Foreman jab busts him up, more then likely to a stoppage.
Charles White
06-03-2009, 11:42 AM
I live in Orting. I know it sounds incredibly cosmopolitan! I like the view of Mt. Rainier though.:thumbsup
Charles White
06-03-2009, 11:42 AM
Here is the best picture I could paint for you..
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Charles White
06-03-2009, 11:43 AM
It would go eight-nine rounds, with it being fairly competitive for the first few stanzas, but George lands more often. Hipp takes alot, but can give some too. But those moments come too far inbetween, and Hipp is stopped.This is exactly how I would think that the fight goes down.:good
lefthook31
06-03-2009, 12:18 PM
Could Crawford Grimsely defeat Joe Hipp? Could the Foreman that fought Crawford Grimsley beat the Joe Hipp that almost defeated Seldon for the title? Maybe.... Hipp could box a little, certainly as much as Tommy Morrison and more than Crawford Grimsley...
Charles White
06-03-2009, 12:23 PM
Could Crawford Grimsely defeat Joe Hipp? Could the Foreman that fought Crawford Grimsley beat the Joe Hipp that almost defeated Seldon for the title? Maybe.... Hipp could box a little, certainly as much as Tommy Morrison and more than Crawford Grimsley...:think
godking
06-03-2009, 01:10 PM
I think we all know who would win this, that much is clear, but I am curious as to how you guys view this fight playing out. Hipp was a tough sonnuvabitch, but lacked the conditioning and overall skill to be a champ. Still, I think he could have given a good fight vs. Comeback George. They were supposed to fight at one point, but Foreman refused. Hipp regrets not being able to fight him to this day. So how about it fellas, how does a fight between these two play out?the point is moot Foreman would never have taken the fight.
Charles White
06-03-2009, 01:11 PM
the point is moot Foreman would never have taken the fight.Yes of course it is, and how many moot points are in this forum?:D I was just wondering how this fight would pan out.
AnthonyJ74
06-03-2009, 01:14 PM
On a serious note, I don't see this fight amounting to much. I think comeback Foreman does a pretty good number on Joe Hipp.
Agreed. Foreman's jab would bust Hipp up pretty well I believe. The fight would probably be similar to Foreman's fight with Pierre Coetzer. Hipp was tough, durable, and had pretty good punching power, but he was not the most skilled guy, and he didn't have the speed or the quickness to trouble George.
AnthonyJ74
06-03-2009, 01:17 PM
Could Crawford Grimsely defeat Joe Hipp? Could the Foreman that fought Crawford Grimsley beat the Joe Hipp that almost defeated Seldon for the title? Maybe.... Hipp could box a little, certainly as much as Tommy Morrison and more than Crawford Grimsley...
Foreman looked like crap in the Grimsley fight. He actually made Grimsley look like a formidable fighter. I don't know if George took him lightly or was just rusty from his long layoff, but he looked rather impotent that night.
lefthook31
06-03-2009, 02:21 PM
Foreman looked like crap in the Grimsley fight. He actually made Grimsley look like a formidable fighter. I don't know if George took him lightly or was just rusty from his long layoff, but he looked rather impotent that night.
Yeah and Jimmy Thunder made Grimsley look like a fly he flicked off his shoulder. What about the Foreman that faced Morrison?
Bigcat
06-03-2009, 03:02 PM
Remember how George dispatched Adilson Rodriguez... Hipp would have gone the same way only more dramatically..............
The Mighty One
06-03-2009, 03:39 PM
If I remember Foreman upset Hipp's plans of fighting Michael Moorer by defeating Moorer. Had Michael retained his title in that fight I believe that it would have been the first time two left handers would have fought for a heavyweight title.
Charles White
06-03-2009, 04:48 PM
If I remember Foreman upset Hipp's plans of fighting Michael Moorer by defeating Moorer. Had Michael retained his title in that fight I believe that it would have been the first time two left handers would have fought for a heavyweight title.:think
Bigcat
06-03-2009, 11:04 PM
In fact i do honestly remember Lennox saying that after he beat Oliver McCall in london he had a mandatory set up in the US probably against Hipp......
Hipp at the time was very highly ranked............. He got his big day in the sun on the Tyson v Mcneely undercard for the WBA title against Bruce Seldon and did very well...
In fact McCall did derail Lewis that night and went on to defend against Holmes in Caesars Las Vegas... the undercard was Seldon v Tucker for the vaccant WBA.... Seldon stopped TNT and made his one defence against Joe as i said above...
AnthonyJ74
06-04-2009, 01:29 AM
If I remember Foreman upset Hipp's plans of fighting Michael Moorer by defeating Moorer. Had Michael retained his title in that fight I believe that it would have been the first time two left handers would have fought for a heavyweight title.
Hipp was about as deserving of a title shot against Moorer was George was.
Seamus
06-04-2009, 03:28 AM
Don't under-rate Hipp's once potential upside. He started very late in a place (both geographically and culturally) where few boxers come from. He was the last mf'er you would ever want to meet on the wrong side of the alley.
lefthook31
06-04-2009, 09:05 AM
Don't under-rate Hipp's once potential upside. He started very late in a place (both geographically and culturally) where few boxers come from. He was the last mf'er you would ever want to meet on the wrong side of the alley.
I agree. There has been many round fighters with solid skills. Frans Botha, Brian Nielson (bronze medalist), and Tony Tubbs, Buster Mathis, to name a few. The only thing somewhat typical about fat heavyweights, is they didnt have a lot of power, which was pretty consistent with the fighters I named above.
Charles White
06-04-2009, 11:49 AM
Don't under-rate Hipp's once potential upside. He started very late in a place (both geographically and culturally) where few boxers come from. He was the last mf'er you would ever want to meet on the wrong side of the alley.:yep Very true.
AnthonyJ74
06-04-2009, 01:14 PM
I agree. There has been many round fighters with solid skills. Frans Botha, Brian Nielson (bronze medalist), and Tony Tubbs, Buster Mathis, to name a few. The only thing somewhat typical about fat heavyweights, is they didnt have a lot of power, which was pretty consistent with the fighters I named above.
I guess George Foreman, David Tua, and Butterbean would be exceptions, fat guys who could crack. But yeah, you would think that more heavier fighters would have power, but that is not always the case.
The Mighty One
06-04-2009, 02:15 PM
Hipp was about as deserving of a title shot against Moorer was George was.
If a boxer is ranked in the top 10 he is deserving. Champions need to stay busy and need opponents.
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