Where Do These ATG's Feature In Your Top 100????

[Flea Man]

Kid Gavilan, Carmen Basilio, Jose Napoles???????

I have all three of them between 25-40.....finding it hard to figure out just where???? It's conundrums and close calls like this that have prevented me from making my own 'definitive' all-time P4P top 100

BY THE WAY AND PLEASE NOTE; MY LISTS ARE POST-WAR.....so go from there please.

[DINAMITA]

Gavilan around 30th, Napoles around 40th, Basilio around 60-75.

[Flea Man]

Thanks for your input. Is that just post-war Dinamita?

I'd be intrigued to see your top 50 or top 100. I gave you a top 20 ages ago, but it's changed so much since then. Mind you it changes a wee bit every single day :rofl

[Flea Man]

Anyone else? I think everyone will have a different opinion, especially in splitting Napoles/gavilan.

[DINAMITA]

Thanks for your input. Is that just post-war Dinamita?

I'd be intrigued to see your top 50 or top 100. I gave you a top 20 ages ago, but it's changed so much since then. Mind you it changes a wee bit every single day :rofl

I posted a top 100 last year. If I wrote another one, it would have changed since then without doubt, off the top of my head I can think of people I placed too high (Roy Jones, George Foreman), people that I included that I wouldn't again (Joe Calzaghe) and people I would maybe include this time (Qawi and/or JM Marquez).

I'll send you the link to that thread tomorrow by PM :good

[WhataRock]

Gav- 25-30

Napoles- 35-40

Basilo- 85-95 from memory...but he could be higher thats for sure.

[asero]

napoles is a guy to need to be in the same bracket to be in the top 50...JMM could do that with a win over PBF

[anarci]

Napoloes around 35
Gavilan between 30-40
Basillo between 45-50

[Sweet Pea]

Napoles top 25, Gavilan top 35, Basilio probably somewhere in the top 75 or so.

[Dempsey1238]

Gavilan and Basilio are over Napoles imo.


Basilio is very underrated if people are putting him in the top 80.

At the LEAST he should be top 30 imo.
Not many people does what Basilio did over coming bad calls, standed up to the mob, ete. and getting and winning a title shot.

I still think that Basilio won the very close fight with Gavilan, Also wins over Demarco, Robinson, and Saxton are Basilio's most known fights.

Was robbed vs Chuck Davy also.

[redrooster]

Kid Gavilan, Carmen Basilio, Jose Napoles???????

I have all three of them between 25-40.....finding it hard to figure out just where???? It's conundrums and close calls like this that have prevented me from making my own 'definitive' all-time P4P top 100

BY THE WAY AND PLEASE NOTE; MY LISTS ARE POST-WAR.....so go from there please.

Napoles around 25

Gavilan around 45

Basilio around 40

[McGrain]

So most people seem to agree that Kid G is below Napoles? Who do people thing was a better boxer overall and who do you pick h2h?

[essexboy]

Gavilan #26
Napoles #39
Basilio-Somewhere outside top fifty, realms I've not yet reached.

[sweet_scientist]

Gavilan # 15
Napoles # 32
Basilio # 77

[Dempsey1238]

Gavilan # 15
Napoles # 32
Basilio # 77


And may the Basilio be with you.


Why do most people have Carman hanging near the bottom of the 100. He is top 30.

Welterweight and Middleweight champ, in a era with one title in each divison.

Has a big win over Robinson who was king of the middleweights, 2 great brawls with Demarco, and that epic clash with Gavilan.

[sweet_scientist]

And may the Basilio be with you.


Why do most people have Carman hanging near the bottom of the 100. He is top 30.

Welterweight and Middleweight champ, in a era with one title in each divison.

Has a big win over Robinson who was king of the middleweights, 2 great brawls with Demarco, and that epic clash with Gavilan.

I'd have Basilio higher if I thought he beat Gavilan, but I had Gavilan taking it, and I thought Basilio lost the first fight to Langlois as well, which is not too much of a drawback given that Carmen was quite outsized.