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shommel
06-04-2009, 08:11 AM
can the hit man break through lamottas granite chin or does lamotta take him into deep waters for the win?
curly
06-04-2009, 08:38 AM
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Lol, my money is on lamotta. I think it would be like Hearns Hagler all over again; explosive but short
PowerPuncher
06-04-2009, 08:47 AM
Hearns UD, the jab, speed, range and movement would win it for him. I don't think Lamotta is too dangerous a puncher so don't think Hearns gets taken out. Hearns may certainly hrut Lamotta but don't think he'll stop him. Who was the bigger puncher from HEarns, SRR and Marshall?
lamotta would win after taking a lot of punishment is advantage in physical strength would wear hearns down imo.
Bill Butcher
06-04-2009, 12:18 PM
Lammotta by 14 rd TKO
or Hearns by 12 rd UD
Flea Man
06-04-2009, 12:30 PM
Lamotta is an underrated puncher. Some of the punishment he dished out would easily force a stopage in Hearns' era.
A toos-up for me. If Lamotta uses his skills he gets to Hearns and stops him. However, against better opponents it has been noted that he ended up blocking with his face. If that is the case, Hearns becomes the first man to drop him.
Another scenario is that Hearns goes for it early and breaks his right hand on Lamotta's head. It all depends on which Hearns shows up, he could easily outbox LaMotta and win a decision.
A fantastic matchup and could go either way IMO. Lamotta would be massive on fight night, but so would Hearns.
itrymariti
06-04-2009, 01:05 PM
It depends whether the Hitman or the Motor City Cobra turns up.
If the Hitman turns up, the hinge factor in this fight is Hearns' chin. If he engages with Lamotta then he'll do a hell of a lot of damage, but he's very susceptible to getting KO'd himself. Lamotta hasn't got wrecking-ball power, but it doesn't really require that to test Hearns' chin. On the other hand, you have to have a hell of a beard to tango with Hearns, which is something Lamotta probably does have, but even then he might get seriously hurt. It's pretty much an unpredictable fight if they end up toe-to-toe.
Still, I think Hearns could outbox Lamotta if he decides to get on his bike. The height and reach differences are almost comic - Hearns is half a foot taller and has a massive reach advantage. Lamotta isn't that easy to hit on the way in if you have good handspeed, and Hearns certainly does have that. He can pepper him with the jab, drop the occasional big right to sway the judges, then stay out of there. If Hearns keeps him from getting inside and doesn't worry too much about hurting Lamotta, he could comfortably outpoint him.
Sweet Pea
06-04-2009, 02:05 PM
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Lol, my money is on lamotta. I think it would be like Hearns Hagler all over again; explosive but short
How do you figure that? Hagler was quicker, more explosive, packed a more powerful, accurate punch and started faster than LaMotta. LaMottaa was not known for his power outside of his ability to break his opponents down to the body over the course of a fight. He might eventually wear down Hearns over 15 (I'd personally favor Hearns by decision), but he sure as hell isn't taking him out like Hagler.
booradley
06-04-2009, 02:32 PM
I think it's about 50/50. Either Tommy wins a pretty wide UD, or Jake stops him late, like in the 14th or 15th round.
the cobra
06-04-2009, 02:56 PM
LaMotta by stoppage in about 10 rounds. I don't think the 160lbs Hearns could keep LaMotta away enough to not get broken down over the course of the fight.
cotto20
06-04-2009, 04:56 PM
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Lol, my money is on lamotta. I think it would be like Hearns Hagler all over again; explosive but short
thats jake lamotta brother on that poster!
albinored
06-05-2009, 12:00 AM
...if bob satterfield couldn't stop lamotta....(jake said he put bumps on his head) then there's no way hearns could. as jake took sugar ray to war in some (most?) of their fights i can't see hearns winning by stickling and moving either. jake ..who had great stamina in his peak days would just keep coming in and he'd catch up with tommy as the hit man got exhausted...
it could be one hell of a fight while it lasted, but i'll say lamotta by a kayo...but have no idea how early or how late.
laxpdx
06-05-2009, 01:03 AM
I think LaMotta wears Hearns down with a bruising body attack...not to mention if he connected with Tommy's chin.
Thread Stealer
06-05-2009, 01:12 AM
It's tough to gauge because I've never really seen LaMotta at his peak.
His peak is considered to be a couple years before he won the title from Cerdan, and to my knowledge, there's hardly any film of those bouts.
LaMotta was known for applying intelligent pressure and a fairly slippery defense with his upper body movement. He had a nice double jab that landed with some regularity in the St. Valentine's Day Massacre. He wasn't a big puncher, but as said above, his low KO percentage might be a little misleading due to the eras and the fact that he fought so often, unlike today's fighters. He had small hands though, to which people have been surprised by looking at his hands that they were those of a boxer.
Hearns is such a tough guy to outpoint though. Maybe Jake's physical strength and size (he's naturally heavier than Hearns) will pay off as he wears Hearns down over the course of a long fight.
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