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Who would win this mythical match-up: Choc in his prime or his dad in his prime?
ashley
06-05-2009, 06:43 PM
Who would win this mythical match-up: Choc in his prime or his dad in his prime?
Pecks is this you....or your alter ego?
A quick question......Is this fight at MW....SMW...LHW?
Pecks is this you....or your alter ego?
A quick question......Is this fight at MW....SMW...LHW?
SMW...
And I dunno who pecks is maybe if you tell me a little bit more about him I might know who he is
ashley
06-05-2009, 07:00 PM
SMW...
And I dunno who pecks is maybe if you tell me a little bit more about him I might know who he is
He lives in Japan....you wont miss him....hes walking round in a souths jumper every day.:yep
Ok to answer you question...I dont know much about TM at SMW....may need to look that up.....I thought he skiped SMW and went from MW to LHW, CW and HW.
At MW TM has a better record and I think was at his best......TM
At SMW choc was in his prime....so I say AM
At LHW, CW, HW.....all go to TM as he is proven at that weight.....AM wont make CW or HW.
All in all TM is the better fighter, harder, stronger tougher.
Anybody know how many other fighters have come from MW to HW and won titles?
WhataRock
06-06-2009, 01:58 AM
Tony fought better fighters, in a better era and showed his class all the way to heavyweight.
Though Jnr has a clear edge in speed...Snr is overall the better fighter without a doubt.
At his very best, focused and in shape he was very formidable.
Early Choc gets pasted inside 6....the more experienced and prime Choc loses a decision...this Choc, the middleweight Choc would get knocked out in the mid rounds.
flamengo
06-06-2009, 02:09 AM
Tony fought better fighters, in a better era and showed his class all the way to heavyweight.
Though Jnr has a clear edge in speed...Snr is overall the better fighter without a doubt.
At his very best, focused and in shape he was very formidable.
Early Choc gets pasted inside 6....the more experienced and prime Choc loses a decision...this Choc, the middleweight Choc would get knocked out in the mid rounds.
Good call WaR. Tony was a battler in making M/W in the late 70's... would have been a great SM/W also. A fight between both guys at LH/W would provide fireworks IMO.
WhataRock
06-06-2009, 02:15 AM
Good call WaR. Tony was a battler in making M/W in the late 70's... would have been a great SM/W also. A fight between both guys at LH/W would provide fireworks IMO.
How you been anyway Tony?
TheDuke
06-06-2009, 02:39 AM
Double knockout
pecks
06-06-2009, 02:40 AM
:lol:
Definitely not me. I'm back in Aus now anyway.
Oh, and I'd tip Tony Snr.
Tony Mundine, no doubts he fought the best
Tony Mundine, no doubts he fought the best...and you know this because you have seen Snr fight?
flamengo
06-06-2009, 08:03 AM
...and you know this because you have seen Snr fight?
Emille Griffith, Benny Briscoe, Denny Moyer, Louis Rodriguez, Bunny Sterling, CARLOS MONZON...very, very short list. Pretty impressive names. Win, Lose or Draw.
It's a pity ol' Ern isn't around to steer Anthony in the direction of genuine credibility.
Anthony is a great fighter none the less. I just don't believe he'll be remembered in 20 years regarding more than 2 fighting opponents. Green and Geale at this point. The names of Kessler, Siaca, Echols etc will be trivia questions in reference to Mundine. If there is NOT a re-match with Geale, Mundine's own memory might rely on Greens name for the future huggers...
His name will lead to many shitful arguements amongst pissed idiots in 20 years... as it does now. That might be the only legacy.
ashley
06-06-2009, 08:07 AM
Emille Griffith, Benny Briscoe, Denny Moyer, Louis Rodriguez, Bunny Sterling, CARLOS MONZON...very, very short list. Pretty impressive names. Win, Lose or Draw.
It's a pity ol' Ern isn't around to steer Anthony in the direction of genuine credibility.
Anthony is a great fighter none the less. I just don't believe he'll be remembered in 20 years regarding more than 2 fighting opponents. Green and Geale at this point. The names of Kessler, Siaca, Echols etc will be trivia questions in reference to Mundine. If there is NOT a re-match with Geale, Mundine's own memory might rely on Greens name for the future huggers...
His name will lead to many shitful arguements amongst pissed idiots in 20 years... as it does now. That might be the only legacy.
How good was Carlos....won his last 60 fights :yikes
flamengo
06-06-2009, 08:43 AM
How good was Carlos....won his last 60 fights :yikes
..................add a few more than that.
COULDHAVEBEEN
06-08-2009, 10:02 PM
Tony fought better fighters, in a better era and showed his class all the way to heavyweight.
Though Jnr has a clear edge in speed...Snr is overall the better fighter without a doubt. At his very best, focused and in shape he was very formidable.
Early Choc gets pasted inside 6....the more experienced and prime Choc loses a decision...this Choc, the middleweight Choc would get knocked out in the mid rounds.
Can't improve on that Rock - pretty much how I see it too.
Angry Fight Fan
06-09-2009, 09:39 AM
Anybody know how many other fighters have come from MW to HW and won titles?
There's been a couple I know of. Les Darcy won the Australian Middleweight and Heavyweight titles but not the Light Heavyweight one (I don't think it was even around back then) as well as claiming the Middleweight world title. Ambrose Palmer and Ron Richards won the Australian Middleweight, Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight titles in the 1930s. Richards also won the Commonwealth Middleweight title (which was a big deal back then) as well as giving Archie Moore two hard fights in 1940. The other one I know of who won all three is Dave Sands.
flamengo
06-09-2009, 10:35 AM
There's been a couple I know of. Les Darcy won the Australian Middleweight and Heavyweight titles but not the Light Heavyweight one (I don't think it was even around back then) as well as claiming the Middleweight world title. Ambrose Palmer and Ron Richards won the Australian Middleweight, Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight titles in the 1930s. Richards also won the Commonwealth Middleweight title (which was a big deal back then) as well as giving Archie Moore two hard fights in 1940. The other one I know of who won all three is Dave Sands.
Nice words on Darcy AFF. Dont forget he faught Bob Whitelaw for the Weltertitle also. Losing over 20 rounds, and deafeating Whitelaw the second time around via KO,although Darcy weighed at the Middle weight limit. Not all agreed with Darcy being National M/W champ, as he's taken the 'Australian' version of the world title before fighting Mick King. His claimancy to National M/W honours is questionable, even though listed.
Other than Ambrose Palmer, Ron Richards, Dave Sands and Tony Mundine... you could almost add Wally Carr
Wally claims to have 'toyed' with Dave Russel during their bout.
COULDHAVEBEEN
06-09-2009, 07:19 PM
...Other than Ambrose Palmer, Ron Richards, Dave Sands and Tony Mundine... you could almost add Wally Carr
Wally claims to have 'toyed' with Dave Russel during their bout.
Russell did get the points over Wally though, and perhaps surprisingly IMO.
Dave simply couldn't jab, and Wally probably had more ability in one finger than Dave had in total. Still Dave had some pluck, could bang away and was probably 10kg heavier.
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