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achillesthegreat
09-02-2007, 10:23 AM
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Finally the video is here and uploaded by the amazing WOODDDDDDDYA.
I've been wanting to watch this again for YEARS.
stuey
09-02-2007, 10:44 AM
this shows what little training he did for barrera, he had lost the desire by then. funny as fuck programme though..
achillesthegreat
09-02-2007, 11:05 AM
Naz had a rubbish camp. Everything he does in training looks power orientated. Its just a mess. The training was like Rocky v Drago with MAB being Rocky.
Vantage_West
09-02-2007, 02:43 PM
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TIGEREDGE
09-02-2007, 02:49 PM
Naz had a rubbish camp. Everything he does in training looks power orientated. Its just a mess. The training was like Rocky v Drago with MAB being Rocky.
EXECUSES, EXECUSES. THERE IS A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE WITH SAYING THAT HE NEVER HAD TRAINED SO HARD FOR A FIGHT
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I HAD NO DOUBT YEARS BEFORE THAT BARERRA AND CO WERE ABOVE HIM. NAZ LOOKED BETTER THAN EVER A FEW MONTH BEFORE THIS FIGHT WHEN HE FOUGHT BUNGU. HIS DEFENCE AND BALANCE WAS BETTER TAHN EVER
achillesthegreat
09-02-2007, 03:00 PM
EXECUSES, EXECUSES. THERE IS A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE WITH SAYING THAT HE NEVER HAD TRAINED SO HARD FOR A FIGHT
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I HAD NO DOUBT YEARS BEFORE THAT BARERRA AND CO WERE ABOVE HIM. NAZ LOOKED BETTER THAN EVER A FEW MONTH BEFORE THIS FIGHT WHEN HE FOUGHT BUNGU. HIS DEFENCE AND BALANCE WAS BETTER TAHN EVER
No excuses here.
It was a horrible camp - FACT!
Good camp or not, Naz loses. Naz always loses to MAB unless he makes technical adjustments.
The first clip of Naz training is him bombing away on a SPEED BAG!
Then he bombs away on the heavy bag and the pads.
Then he describes the sweet science as him wanting to find an opening to knock someone out.
Then his sparring shows him moronically trying to knock his opponents out.
Then Steward says he wasn't happy with how Naz looks and this is three weeks out.
Then he talks non stop about knocking MAB out.
Then he talks about how everyone can be ko'd.
The video speaks for itself.
Vantage_West
09-02-2007, 03:10 PM
this shows what little training he did for barrera, he had lost the desire by then. funny as fuck programme though..what im thinking you can see marco continously moving doing pads in a working enviroment which does give you alot of motivation. and then naz with a chandelier in the ring and a gym inside your home is somthing wrong there...even his trainer didnt know how to punch did you see him on the bag:blood the left hook looked awful and the right hand had no such technique whatsoever.
i think he had alot of desire but it wasnt the desire like the years before.
and like achillies said it's power orientated while marco was doing combo's and speed drills while naz was throwing booming one hit punches. a real shame his speed is what made him a great fighter
Nemesis
09-02-2007, 03:31 PM
EXECUSES, EXECUSES. THERE IS A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE WITH SAYING THAT HE NEVER HAD TRAINED SO HARD FOR A FIGHT
HERE IS A LINK:
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THERE ARE OTHERS
I HAD NO DOUBT YEARS BEFORE THAT BARERRA AND CO WERE ABOVE HIM. NAZ LOOKED BETTER THAN EVER A FEW MONTH BEFORE THIS FIGHT WHEN HE FOUGHT BUNGU. HIS DEFENCE AND BALANCE WAS BETTER TAHN EVER
what's your point, every fighter says he is in the best shape, but very rarely is.
stuey
09-02-2007, 03:52 PM
inspired me to watch the fight again. barrera beat the granny out of him, marvelous
nulty
09-02-2007, 05:38 PM
I couldn't believe at the time and still can't believe now, that people picked naz with such certainty to win this fight. I picked Marco and was ridiculed, even on sky Glenn McCrory was the only analyst to pick Marco and the others looked at him like he was stupid.
GazOC
09-02-2007, 05:45 PM
MAB was thought to be there to be hit by Naz's power. I'll admit I picked Naz...
TIGEREDGE
09-02-2007, 07:30 PM
I couldn't believe at the time and still can't believe now, that people picked naz with such certainty to win this fight. I picked Marco and was ridiculed, even on sky Glenn McCrory was the only analyst to pick Marco and the others looked at him like he was stupid.
i bet 200 pound on MAB at the time. i couldn't believe the odds of 3/1. easiest money i ever made
Strike
09-02-2007, 08:00 PM
i bet 200 pound on MAB at the time. i couldn't believe the odds of 4/1. easiest money i ever made
Yeah and you are the same guy who started a thread saying that Hamed was not a big puncher.
Clearly your ignorance and bias paid off once. I doubt it is something that will prove to be lucrative in the long run.:good
TIGEREDGE
09-02-2007, 08:06 PM
Yeah and you are the same guy who started a thread saying that Hamed was not a big puncher.
Clearly your ignorance and bias paid off once. I doubt it is something that will prove to be lucrative in the long run.:good
his punches never hurt barerra. GREAT IS A WORD USED TOO MUCH NOWDAYS.
i NEVER SAID THAT NAZ COULD'T HKIT. Naz was a very good puncher but he never proved himself great PUNCHER LIKE MOORE OLIVARES, HEARNS AND CO. he needed a ko victory over a barera or a marquez or morales to prove it
TIGEREDGE
09-02-2007, 08:09 PM
Yeah and you are the same guy who started a thread saying that Hamed was not a big puncher.
Clearly your ignorance and bias paid off once. I doubt it is something that will prove to be lucrative in the long run.:good
i never let personal feelings get in the way of business or beting on boxing. i have done good betting on boxing. had a few losses but made a good profit over the years doing it
Vantage_West
09-02-2007, 08:28 PM
tiger im sorry to say this but your a total cunt you havnt given any evidence just feel that self belif will overrule everything that is true for what...pride ? i cant think of anything
brown bomber
09-03-2007, 04:56 AM
Whomph there it is! lol
achillesthegreat
09-03-2007, 07:26 AM
Whomph there it is! lol
lol. i loved that bit too. naz is a nut but thats why i watch him.
Stewbear
09-03-2007, 08:21 AM
wow stewards attitude changed crazy after first day, think he knew the prince in for it
Vantage_West
09-03-2007, 10:13 AM
Whomph there it is! lolthats the best quote after a fight i have ever heard:good :rofl
Stewbear
09-03-2007, 11:12 AM
wtf was with the gloves as well:nut
garymcfall
09-03-2007, 01:16 PM
Watching that it makes you glad he was trounced by Barrera, he had well and truly disappeared up his own arse by the looks of it. Its scandelous the way he trained for a fighter such as Marco. In my opinion if he had a better attitude he COULD have became the greatest featherweight of all time like Manny Steward said. As someone already said its amazing how Steward changed his tune after the first day, he clearly knew Prince Naseem was going to get beat.
achillesthegreat
09-03-2007, 02:25 PM
Its true. He didn't respect his opponent given the way he trained and as silly as it sounds, he didn't deserve to win.
Credit where credit due though, it was a technical battle from MABs standpoint. He boxed beautifully, he kept a good defence, he brawled when needed and he was the only man out of many good fighters, contenders and champs to truly exploit Nazs flaws.
TIGEREDGE
09-03-2007, 04:23 PM
tiger im sorry to say this but your a total cunt you havnt given any evidence just feel that self belif will overrule everything that is true for what...pride ? i cant think of anything
THATS A BIT STRONG ISN'T IT
i always give a fair assesment of things. i have a lot of pride and give respect to a lot of opinions. My blood boils when i HEAR PEOPLE defending naz for that car incident. that cunt should of been shot for what he did
TIGEREDGE
09-03-2007, 04:25 PM
Watching that it makes you glad he was trounced by Barrera, he had well and truly disappeared up his own arse by the looks of it. Its scandelous the way he trained for a fighter such as Marco. In my opinion if he had a better attitude he COULD have became the greatest featherweight of all time like Manny Steward said. As someone already said its amazing how Steward changed his tune after the first day, he clearly knew Prince Naseem was going to get beat.
He could of been a great fighter if A manny steward trained him from the start but that brendan ingle got hold of him a give him a unique style (that he could pull off well) but was limited to a certain level. his good punch helped him through a lot of fights against the decent fighters he fought
kurt2006
09-04-2007, 05:04 AM
He could of been a great fighter if A manny steward trained him from the start but that brendan ingle got hold of him a give him a unique style (that he could pull off well) but was limited to a certain level. his good punch helped him through a lot of fights against the decent fighters he fought
Doubt it. It was the Ingle style that got him to where he was. After his spat with Ingle things went downhill.
Max Molyneux
09-04-2007, 05:51 AM
Manny's overrated and just spouts crap these days.
He's good with tall fighters but thats It.
Ingle trained Naz since he was 7 or 8 and It was foolish to leave Ingle as no one else could train that style.
Ingle trained Naz since he was 7 or 8 and It was foolish to leave Ingle as no one else could train that style.
Agree. Leaving his trainer was a big mistake and contributed to his ultimate downfall.
Was he trained by members of his family once he left Ingle?
TIGEREDGE
09-04-2007, 05:55 PM
INGLES STYLES HAS ITS LIMITS. HEROL GRAHAM FAILED AT THE TOP LEVEL AND SO DID NAZ
Hamed had the punch, good speed, heart and a good chin. with the right tuition he could of been a much more formidible fighter. He may not have been as unique to watch with a more polished style
When he fought the likes of kevin kelly, sanchez and medina (ALL STILL GOOD FIGHTERS), naz couldn't do any fancy shit. he had to use his speed and power to get through
TIGEREDGE
09-04-2007, 05:56 PM
Agree. Leaving his trainer was a big mistake and contributed to his ultimate downfall.
Was he trained by members of his family once he left Ingle?
no he was trained by manny stewart and a guy called suarez
I just recall his family being heavily involved in his boxing career -
after Barry Hearn and Frank ****** I think he was managed by his brother.
Supreme
09-08-2007, 08:09 PM
Good watch!
brown bomber
09-09-2007, 04:54 AM
Naz's magic 5
1. KO7 Robinson (pretty much flawless display against a good champion)
2. KO2 Enrique Angeles (Awesome punch picking, power and defence)
3. KO5 Freddy Cruz (as above Naz at his finest)
4. KO4 Vuyani Bungu (His best performance after becoming a champion and in my eyes a bit of a fluke as he had already declined significantly)
5. KO2 Juan Polo Perez (just amazing)
Naz peaked and should have stayed at super bantam- the Robinson victory should have been a pit stop at featherweight. People think that the Naz that fought Barrera was the real Naz- it wasn't.... Naseem had become lazy and over reliant on his one shot power.
The Naz that beat the likes of Angeles and Cruz would have given even Barrera fits and I am a massive Barrera fan. He went from an athletic, explosive boxer-puncher to a flat footed pot shotter.
Its a shame we never got to see how good he really was.
Naseem: Little Prince, Big Fight is on Sky Tv (ESPN Classic) this Thursday 13th September at midnight. Enjoy!
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