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Jab: (Ex. Hearns)
Left/Right Straight:
Hook:
Uppercut:
Footwork:
Defense:
Handspeed:
Overall Quickness:
Chin:
Heart:
Stamina:
Power:
Ring Generalship:
Any missing categories, let me know and I'll edit.
box03
09-02-2007, 02:37 PM
jab- Holmes straight right- Lewis Hook- Frazier uppercut- Tyson Footwork- Ali defense- sweat pea handspeed- Roy Jones/ sugar ray over all quicknes- Mayweather
Illmatic
09-02-2007, 02:46 PM
Jab: Muhammad Ali
Left/Right Straight: Hearns
Hook: Mike Tyson/ Joe Louis
Uppercut: Lennox Lewis/SRR
Footwork: Willie Pep
Defense: Whitaker/Benitez
Handspeed: Camacho/SRL
Overall Quickness: Meldrick Taylor/SRL
Chin: Chuvalo
Heart: Morales/Marciano
brooklyn1550
09-02-2007, 03:03 PM
Jab: Thomas Hearns, Larry Holmes
Left/Right Straight: Joe Louis, Thomas Hearns
Hook: Joe Frazier, Julio Cesar Chavez (left hook to the body)
Uppercut: Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard
Footwork: Willie Pep, Muhammad Ali
Defense: Pernell Whitaker, Willie Pep
Handspeed: Meldrick Taylor, Roy Jones Jr, Sugar Ray Leonard
Overall Quickness (Handspeed and Footspeed): Floyd Mayweather Jr
Chin: George Chuvalo, Marvin Hagler
Heart: Diego Corrales, Erik Morales
Stamina: Henry Armstrong, Rocky Marciano, Aaron Pryor
jonesjrp4p1
09-02-2007, 03:40 PM
Jab: Thomas Hearns, Larry Holmes
Left/Right Straight: Joe Louis, Thomas Hearns
Hook: Joe Frazier, Julio Cesar Chavez (left hook to the body)
Uppercut: Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard
Footwork: Willie Pep, Muhammad Ali
Defense: Pernell Whitaker, Willie Pep
Handspeed: Meldrick Taylor, Roy Jones Jr, Sugar Ray Leonard
Overall Quickness (Handspeed and Footspeed): Floyd Mayweather Jr
Chin: George Chuvalo, Marvin Hagler
Heart: Diego Corrales, Erik Morales
Stamina: Henry Armstrong, Rocky Marciano, Aaron Pryor
good list:good
brooklyn1550
09-02-2007, 05:00 PM
POWER: Tyson, Liston, Foreman, Judah(140), Cotto, Hatton, Manny Pac, Miranda, Pavlik
I would think that Kostya Tszyu would be more powerful at 140 than Miguel Cotto, Ricky Hatton, and Zab Judah without a shadow of a doubt. And Carlos Zarate, Wilfredo Gomez, Stanley Ketchel, Gerald McClellan, Earnie Shavers, Thomas Hearns deserve to be on the list more than Miranda and Pavlik. You could make a case for Pacquiao, but I still think that Hamed hits harder.
Dempsey1238
09-02-2007, 05:05 PM
Jab: Barney Ross
Left/Right Straight: Barney Ross
Hook: Barney Ross
Uppercut: Barney Ross
Footwork: Barney Ross
Defense: Barney Ross
Handspeed: Barney Ross
Overall Quickness: Barney Ross
Chin: Barney Ross(Never ko)
Heart: Barney Ross
Stamina: Barney Ross
POWER: Fitz
Illmatic
09-02-2007, 05:14 PM
:huh
beat me to it :rofl
but on what you wrote to me, I guess that when I think of Meldrick Taylor I remember his overall quickness (lateral movement, footwork, etc.) in addition to his handspeed, but when I think of camacho and leonard what first comes to mind are blazing hands...i guess they could be interchangeable.
Marnoff
09-02-2007, 05:34 PM
Jab: Ali, Hearns, Holmes
Left/Right Straight: Hearns
Hook: Frazier, Tyson
Uppercut: Tyson
Footwork: Roy Jones, Mayweather
Defense: Whitaker, Mayweather, Pep (this, mostly, from word of mouth, since I've seen limited footage of him)
Handspeed: Meldrick Taylor, Roy Jones
Overall Quickness: Mayweather, Whitaker
Chin: George Chuvalo
Heart: Marciano, Chuvalo
Stamina: Marciano, Mayweather
aweintrob
09-02-2007, 05:50 PM
How about Julian Jackson in the power department... Miranda and Pavlik do NOT have all time great power
PH|LLA
09-02-2007, 05:55 PM
ring generalship: hopkins
Marnoff
09-02-2007, 06:06 PM
ring generalship: hopkins
I like that call.
Marnoff
09-02-2007, 06:43 PM
I'll go with Jones.
That's an option.
A rematch would have been epic with Hopkins stalking, understanding Jones better, and with Jones understanding Hopkins as well. It's a shame we never got to see it.
sues2nd
09-02-2007, 06:55 PM
Jab: Holmes (Hearns, Douglas, Whitaker, etc.)
Left/Right Straight: Lewis (Wlad, Tszyu, Pacman, etc.)
Hook: Frazier (Tyson, Holyfield, Oscar, etc.)
Uppercut: Tyson....and no one else is even close.
Footwork: Ali (Leonard, Whitaker, Calzaghe, etc.)
Defense: Whitaker (Pep, Hopkins, Mayweather, etc.)
Handspeed: Meldrick Taylor (Mayweather, Camacho, Judah, etc.)
Overall Quickness: Camacho (Whitaker, Mayweather, Judah, etc.)
Chin: Mccall (Hopkins, JCC, Holyfield, etc.)
Heart: Gatti (Chico, Frazier, Holyfield, etc.)
Stamina: Didnt some of the old time greats fight MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY....gotta go with them...
Power: Foreman (Tyson, Liston, Julian Jackson, etc.)
Ring Generalship: Hopkins (Ali, Whitaker, Mayweather, etc.)
Admittingly, I dont know much about the really old time fighters....and I know if I spent more time thinking, Id come up with more.
Fab2333
09-02-2007, 07:05 PM
Jab: Holmes (Hearns, Douglas, Whitaker, etc.)
Left/Right Straight: Lewis (Wlad, Tszyu, Pacman, etc.)
Hook: Frazier (Tyson, Holyfield, Oscar, etc.)
Uppercut: Tyson....and no one else is even close.
Footwork: Ali (Leonard, Whitaker, Calzaghe, etc.)
Defense: Whitaker (Pep, Hopkins, Mayweather, etc.)
Handspeed: Meldrick Taylor (Mayweather, Camacho, Judah, etc.)
Overall Quickness: Camacho (Whitaker, Mayweather, Judah, etc.)
Chin: Mccall (Hopkins, JCC, Holyfield, etc.)
Heart: Gatti (Chico, Frazier, Holyfield, etc.)
Stamina: Didnt some of the old time greats fight MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY....gotta go with them...
Power: Foreman (Tyson, Liston, Julian Jackson, etc.)
Ring Generalship: Hopkins (Ali, Whitaker, Mayweather, etc.)
Admittingly, I dont know much about the really old time fighters....and I know if I spent more time thinking, Id come up with more.\\sues no Roy Jones on ya list for anything?
sues2nd
09-02-2007, 07:59 PM
He's a Hopkins fan. :D (jk Sues)
But seriously Sues I am not getting the lack of Jones is the quickness, ring generalship, or defense departments.
SHIT....how did I forget Roy.
(and fuuuuuuuuuuuck yall with the Hopkins fan shit...ya know I love Roy :lol: )
Edit.
Jones is THE man in overall quickness, handspeed he gets honorable mention (Taylor just had the quickest hands Ive ever seen), defense he also get honorable mention...as well as footwork.
Marnoff
09-02-2007, 09:26 PM
He's a Hopkins fan. :D (jk Sues)
But seriously Sues I am not getting the lack of Jones is the quickness, ring generalship, or defense departments.
Out of curiousity, do you consider Jones a far superior ring general than Hopkins?
dave82
09-02-2007, 09:39 PM
Jab: Hearns/Ali/Quartey
Left/Right Straight: Lennox Lewis / K Tszyu / Dempsey
Hook: Tua/ Oscar / Tyson / Morrison
Uppercut: Tyson. Thats one punch that scared the shit out of me
Footwork: Ali, Ray Leonard
Defense: Whitaker/ Pep
Handspeed: M. Taylor / Camacho / Jones Jnr
Overall Quickness: Jones Jnr
Chin: LaMotta/ McCall / Hagler
Heart: Gatti
Stamina: Monzon maybe
Power: Foreman, Tyson, Hearns
Ring Generalship: Hopkins / whitaker / Ray Leonard
Carlos Primera
09-02-2007, 09:53 PM
Jab: hearns, holmes, quartey
Left/Right Straight: hearns(right), pac(left)
Hook: tyson, trinidad
Uppercut: tyson
Footwork: ali
Defense: whitaker
Handspeed: SRL, RJJ
Overall Quickness: SRL, RJJ
Chin: McCall, McCullough
Heart: Morales, ali
Stamina: Pacquiao
Power: foreman, julian jackson
Ring Generalship: hopkins
Marnoff
09-02-2007, 09:55 PM
Ah, I forgot Gatti for "Heart".
Only one poster mentioned Pryor under "Stamina". :blood
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