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Marc
09-02-2007, 02:30 PM
Jab: (Ex. Hearns)

Left/Right Straight:

Hook:

Uppercut:

Footwork:

Defense:

Handspeed:

Overall Quickness:

Chin:

Heart:

Stamina:

Power:

Ring Generalship:


Any missing categories, let me know and I'll edit.

box03
09-02-2007, 02:37 PM
jab- Holmes straight right- Lewis Hook- Frazier uppercut- Tyson Footwork- Ali defense- sweat pea handspeed- Roy Jones/ sugar ray over all quicknes- Mayweather

Illmatic
09-02-2007, 02:46 PM
Jab: Muhammad Ali

Left/Right Straight: Hearns

Hook: Mike Tyson/ Joe Louis

Uppercut: Lennox Lewis/SRR

Footwork: Willie Pep

Defense: Whitaker/Benitez

Handspeed: Camacho/SRL

Overall Quickness: Meldrick Taylor/SRL

Chin: Chuvalo

Heart: Morales/Marciano

brooklyn1550
09-02-2007, 03:03 PM
Jab: Thomas Hearns, Larry Holmes
Left/Right Straight: Joe Louis, Thomas Hearns
Hook: Joe Frazier, Julio Cesar Chavez (left hook to the body)
Uppercut: Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard
Footwork: Willie Pep, Muhammad Ali
Defense: Pernell Whitaker, Willie Pep
Handspeed: Meldrick Taylor, Roy Jones Jr, Sugar Ray Leonard
Overall Quickness (Handspeed and Footspeed): Floyd Mayweather Jr
Chin: George Chuvalo, Marvin Hagler
Heart: Diego Corrales, Erik Morales
Stamina: Henry Armstrong, Rocky Marciano, Aaron Pryor

jonesjrp4p1
09-02-2007, 03:40 PM
Jab: Thomas Hearns, Larry Holmes
Left/Right Straight: Joe Louis, Thomas Hearns
Hook: Joe Frazier, Julio Cesar Chavez (left hook to the body)
Uppercut: Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard
Footwork: Willie Pep, Muhammad Ali
Defense: Pernell Whitaker, Willie Pep
Handspeed: Meldrick Taylor, Roy Jones Jr, Sugar Ray Leonard
Overall Quickness (Handspeed and Footspeed): Floyd Mayweather Jr
Chin: George Chuvalo, Marvin Hagler
Heart: Diego Corrales, Erik Morales
Stamina: Henry Armstrong, Rocky Marciano, Aaron Pryor

good list:good

brooklyn1550
09-02-2007, 05:00 PM
POWER: Tyson, Liston, Foreman, Judah(140), Cotto, Hatton, Manny Pac, Miranda, Pavlik

I would think that Kostya Tszyu would be more powerful at 140 than Miguel Cotto, Ricky Hatton, and Zab Judah without a shadow of a doubt. And Carlos Zarate, Wilfredo Gomez, Stanley Ketchel, Gerald McClellan, Earnie Shavers, Thomas Hearns deserve to be on the list more than Miranda and Pavlik. You could make a case for Pacquiao, but I still think that Hamed hits harder.

Dempsey1238
09-02-2007, 05:05 PM
Jab: Barney Ross

Left/Right Straight: Barney Ross

Hook: Barney Ross

Uppercut: Barney Ross

Footwork: Barney Ross

Defense: Barney Ross

Handspeed: Barney Ross

Overall Quickness: Barney Ross

Chin: Barney Ross(Never ko)

Heart: Barney Ross

Stamina: Barney Ross

POWER: Fitz

Illmatic
09-02-2007, 05:14 PM
:huh

beat me to it :rofl


but on what you wrote to me, I guess that when I think of Meldrick Taylor I remember his overall quickness (lateral movement, footwork, etc.) in addition to his handspeed, but when I think of camacho and leonard what first comes to mind are blazing hands...i guess they could be interchangeable.

Marnoff
09-02-2007, 05:34 PM
Jab: Ali, Hearns, Holmes

Left/Right Straight: Hearns

Hook: Frazier, Tyson

Uppercut: Tyson

Footwork: Roy Jones, Mayweather

Defense: Whitaker, Mayweather, Pep (this, mostly, from word of mouth, since I've seen limited footage of him)

Handspeed: Meldrick Taylor, Roy Jones

Overall Quickness: Mayweather, Whitaker

Chin: George Chuvalo

Heart: Marciano, Chuvalo

Stamina: Marciano, Mayweather

aweintrob
09-02-2007, 05:50 PM
How about Julian Jackson in the power department... Miranda and Pavlik do NOT have all time great power

PH|LLA
09-02-2007, 05:55 PM
ring generalship: hopkins

Marnoff
09-02-2007, 06:06 PM
ring generalship: hopkins

I like that call.

Marnoff
09-02-2007, 06:43 PM
I'll go with Jones.

That's an option.

A rematch would have been epic with Hopkins stalking, understanding Jones better, and with Jones understanding Hopkins as well. It's a shame we never got to see it.

sues2nd
09-02-2007, 06:55 PM
Jab: Holmes (Hearns, Douglas, Whitaker, etc.)

Left/Right Straight: Lewis (Wlad, Tszyu, Pacman, etc.)

Hook: Frazier (Tyson, Holyfield, Oscar, etc.)

Uppercut: Tyson....and no one else is even close.

Footwork: Ali (Leonard, Whitaker, Calzaghe, etc.)

Defense: Whitaker (Pep, Hopkins, Mayweather, etc.)

Handspeed: Meldrick Taylor (Mayweather, Camacho, Judah, etc.)

Overall Quickness: Camacho (Whitaker, Mayweather, Judah, etc.)

Chin: Mccall (Hopkins, JCC, Holyfield, etc.)

Heart: Gatti (Chico, Frazier, Holyfield, etc.)

Stamina: Didnt some of the old time greats fight MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY....gotta go with them...

Power: Foreman (Tyson, Liston, Julian Jackson, etc.)

Ring Generalship: Hopkins (Ali, Whitaker, Mayweather, etc.)

Admittingly, I dont know much about the really old time fighters....and I know if I spent more time thinking, Id come up with more.

Fab2333
09-02-2007, 07:05 PM
Jab: Holmes (Hearns, Douglas, Whitaker, etc.)

Left/Right Straight: Lewis (Wlad, Tszyu, Pacman, etc.)

Hook: Frazier (Tyson, Holyfield, Oscar, etc.)

Uppercut: Tyson....and no one else is even close.

Footwork: Ali (Leonard, Whitaker, Calzaghe, etc.)

Defense: Whitaker (Pep, Hopkins, Mayweather, etc.)

Handspeed: Meldrick Taylor (Mayweather, Camacho, Judah, etc.)

Overall Quickness: Camacho (Whitaker, Mayweather, Judah, etc.)

Chin: Mccall (Hopkins, JCC, Holyfield, etc.)

Heart: Gatti (Chico, Frazier, Holyfield, etc.)

Stamina: Didnt some of the old time greats fight MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY....gotta go with them...

Power: Foreman (Tyson, Liston, Julian Jackson, etc.)

Ring Generalship: Hopkins (Ali, Whitaker, Mayweather, etc.)

Admittingly, I dont know much about the really old time fighters....and I know if I spent more time thinking, Id come up with more.\\sues no Roy Jones on ya list for anything?

sues2nd
09-02-2007, 07:59 PM
He's a Hopkins fan. :D (jk Sues)

But seriously Sues I am not getting the lack of Jones is the quickness, ring generalship, or defense departments.

SHIT....how did I forget Roy.

(and fuuuuuuuuuuuck yall with the Hopkins fan shit...ya know I love Roy :lol: )

Edit.

Jones is THE man in overall quickness, handspeed he gets honorable mention (Taylor just had the quickest hands Ive ever seen), defense he also get honorable mention...as well as footwork.

Marnoff
09-02-2007, 09:26 PM
He's a Hopkins fan. :D (jk Sues)

But seriously Sues I am not getting the lack of Jones is the quickness, ring generalship, or defense departments.

Out of curiousity, do you consider Jones a far superior ring general than Hopkins?

dave82
09-02-2007, 09:39 PM
Jab: Hearns/Ali/Quartey

Left/Right Straight: Lennox Lewis / K Tszyu / Dempsey

Hook: Tua/ Oscar / Tyson / Morrison

Uppercut: Tyson. Thats one punch that scared the shit out of me

Footwork: Ali, Ray Leonard

Defense: Whitaker/ Pep

Handspeed: M. Taylor / Camacho / Jones Jnr

Overall Quickness: Jones Jnr

Chin: LaMotta/ McCall / Hagler

Heart: Gatti

Stamina: Monzon maybe

Power: Foreman, Tyson, Hearns

Ring Generalship: Hopkins / whitaker / Ray Leonard

Carlos Primera
09-02-2007, 09:53 PM
Jab: hearns, holmes, quartey

Left/Right Straight: hearns(right), pac(left)

Hook: tyson, trinidad

Uppercut: tyson

Footwork: ali

Defense: whitaker

Handspeed: SRL, RJJ

Overall Quickness: SRL, RJJ

Chin: McCall, McCullough

Heart: Morales, ali

Stamina: Pacquiao

Power: foreman, julian jackson

Ring Generalship: hopkins

Marnoff
09-02-2007, 09:55 PM
Ah, I forgot Gatti for "Heart".

Marc
09-02-2007, 09:57 PM
Only one poster mentioned Pryor under "Stamina". :blood