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David Tua
09-02-2007, 02:50 PM
JOHN MATHESON - Sunday News | Sunday, 2 September 2007
David Tua could be given his second world title fight, in a bizarre out of court settlement sought by his promoter.
Tua's US-based promoter Cedric Kushner is in court with world champion Wladimir Klitschko's promoter Shelly Finkel in New York on Friday.
Kushner is suing Finkel for what he said was a breach of contract last year when Klitschko chose to fight Calvin Brock instead of his fighter Shannon Briggs.
And Sunday News can exclusively reveal Kushner will offer to drop the case if Finkel agrees to give Tua a title shot early next year.
"I drop the suit, they give us the fight ... that's the plan," Kushner said last night. "It would be a win-win for them.
"Klitschko is due to fight in the first two months of next year and they are still searching for an opponent.
"Obviously, because I am the one taking them to court, I'm in a position to control any out of court settlement and I'll be looking to use all the leverage I can to get David the shot at the title he deserves."
Klitschko is generally regarded as the top heavyweight in the world and most credible champion. He won the IBF and IBO heavyweight championship belts with a TKO against Chris Byrd in 2006. He has since defended against Brock, Rau Austin and Lamon Brewster.
He was set to fight in November but was taking the rest of the year off to recover from an injury in his left hand.
Finkel said a fight against Tua was a possibility when Sunday News spoke to him before we learnt of Kushner's plans.
"I think Tua could interest us," said Finkel, who at one stage promoted Tua in America. "He's a big puncher. I know how good he is. If he can do to a higher ranked boxer what he did to Saul Montana he would be right on our radar screen."
Kushner vowed to get Tua a title fight "within six months" after his charge's win against Montana three weeks ago.
And last night Tua said he was ready to go if given the green light by the Klitschko camp.
He said he was in a better physical and mental state than he was seven years ago when he fought for the heavyweight championship against Lennox Lewis in 2000.
"I used to say boxing was more mental than physical," he said. "That's what I knew then. Do I regret saying that? No. But do I believe it now? No.
"Age has taught me I've made a few mistakes over my career. Now I know it's all about the four elements the physical being, the soul, the heart and the mind.
"When the opportunity to fight for the title presents itself, I'll be ready. And I won't be in shock. I've fought for the title once and the lessons have been learnt. Trust me."
Tua late TKO!:rasta
brooklyn1550
09-02-2007, 02:52 PM
As much as I like David Tua, I see Tua-Klitschko looking like Brewster-Klitschko 2 without a stoppage.
brisback
09-02-2007, 02:58 PM
As much as I like David Tua, I see Tua-Klitschko looking like Brewster-Klitschko 2 without a stoppage.
yup. Boring fight with Klitschko jab keeping tua off and HBO commentators falling asleep and mentioning how the crowd is starting to leave the arena by the start of the 8th round.
Wlad UD12
brooklyn1550
09-02-2007, 02:59 PM
Is there anybody who predicts a Wladimir Klitschko knockdown or knockout of David Tua?
2smart4u
09-02-2007, 03:01 PM
:smoke Id love to see TUA WIN ! but I just cant see it !
2smart4u
09-02-2007, 03:02 PM
Is there anybody who predicts a Wladimir Klitschko knockdown or knockout of David Tua?:good I do !
barneyrub
09-02-2007, 03:04 PM
Wlad knocks Tua out, beating the bums he has been fighting doesnt make Tua a credible challenger again at 34 years old.
box03
09-02-2007, 03:04 PM
Tua has a chance but he cant fight Wlad like he did Lewis, he has to go into the fight like Mike Tyson and look for the knockout early. If Tua even taps wlads bounty soft chin its going to an early night but its a big if considering tuas' like 5 foot 9. I see an early knockout for Tua or a late stoppage for Wlad, its up to Tua to finally live up to his talent.
boxingcar
09-02-2007, 03:05 PM
this will probably end up being a nonstop jab fest...keeping a distance with tua and doing that all night...
Blacc Jesus
09-02-2007, 03:12 PM
:smoke Id love to see TUA WIN ! but I just cant see it !
Agreed.
Sad, cause Tua can be dangerous, but after Wlad defeats him, everyone will bash him for facing another crappy opponent.
However, I suppose this isn't much different than Holyfield being handed a title-shot after beating Savarese.
Tom_Tocca
09-02-2007, 03:45 PM
Tua hasn't earned a shot yet, he should first beat a top15 heavyweight...either way he will get schooled and KOed late by Wlad...
KayEpps
09-02-2007, 04:23 PM
Wlad by KO.
Tua too short to get by Wlad's jab and don't have to speed to avoid it and get inside. I'm getting tired of seeing Wlad fight these guys - they need to go ahead and unify the titles.
Motor City Sam
09-02-2007, 04:27 PM
Is there anybody who predicts a Wladimir Klitschko knockdown or knockout of David Tua?
I don't think Tua gets knocked out unless his opponent brings a baseball bat into the ring.
Wlad/Tua probably goes the same way as Lewis/Tua.
El Bombasto
09-02-2007, 04:28 PM
even a cast iron jaw will eventually rust, if there's a current heavyweight that can dent tua's jaw, it would be wlad. but, this fight appears to be a bad move by both parties: tua will most likely catch a pretty severe beating (whether or not he gets ko'd) and wlad has nothing to gain by facing a murderous puncher with pretty quick hands.
LONGROB
09-02-2007, 04:45 PM
This fight makes no sense. Tua is gonna get brutally beaten up. There is a good possibility that he even gets TKO'd.
HandsOfGold
09-02-2007, 04:53 PM
Wlad will never be able to KO Tua because if Tua feels the power of Klitschko he'll go into a shell and harden his chin to be able to last the full 12...and we all know Klitschko doesn't have the greatest killer instinct...he waits for the KO, doesn't go for it.
Wlad UD 12.
Irländsk
09-02-2007, 05:00 PM
I hope to christ this isn't gonna happen, do we really need another wlad/fringe contender match-up, can we just get a goddamn unification fight for fucks sake?! he should really fight ibragimov next and forget tua, who he tkos in 8 or 9 imo.
Grabonator
09-02-2007, 05:10 PM
I would like to know who will be the opponent for Tua on September 7!!
And Rahman who will fight on that date too! No opponents yet, and they will fight next friday!!:patsch
semichin
09-02-2007, 05:10 PM
Tua hasn't earned a shot yet, he should first beat a top15 heavyweight...either way he will get schooled and KOed late by Wlad... Very likely:hi:
box03
09-02-2007, 05:17 PM
I think Tua has more of a chance than people our giving him, yes if he fights cautious like he did against Lewis he will get destroyed. But if he watches any of Wlads fights his best chance is to swarm Wlad with hook after hook hoping it hits a target, and yes he has the chin to do it. Just think if he could knockout fighters like Moorer and Ruiz in under 33 seconds he could it to Wlad too.
ChampionsForever
09-02-2007, 05:19 PM
Tua doesn't wing hes punches as much as Peter, if he cracked Wlad right he would KHTFO, otherwise this is a one sided beatdown.
Imperial1
09-02-2007, 05:21 PM
Tua is the biggest under acheiver in the HW division ..I can't to see him try to land the single bomb same as w/when he fought LL ..
W.Klitchko by TKO !
box03
09-02-2007, 05:32 PM
Tua is the biggest under acheiver in the HW division ..I can't to see him try to land the single bomb same as w/when he fought LL ..
W.Klitchko by TKO ! But do you think if Tua came out like Tyson throwing left hook bombs, would you think he has a decent chance then to ko Wladimir?
barneyrub
09-02-2007, 05:36 PM
The good thing about Tua is that he is so short that wlad wont be able to hold and lean on him like he did with Peter. Lewis found that it was impossible to get a clinch with Tua because he just geniflects out of it and Wlad is taller so there is the danger he can also get under the jab. Tua showed against Lewis that he doesnt have the figh in his heart, today he is fighting more for the money than the glory after the court cases and the money his former managers got.
Imperial1
09-02-2007, 05:40 PM
But do you think if Tua came out like Tyson throwing left hook bombs, would you think he has a decent chance then to ko Wladimir?
Not this version of Wlad ..Considering he's almost mirrong LL'S style with the jab ..And lets not forget Wlad's reach ..He could throw all the bombs he wanted but he has to be accurate with them .If this was the Tua that fought Ieabuchi then I would say hell yes but since then Tua has just come up short ..Hey I'd love for him to win the title but I just don't see him as the man to do it ..
box03
09-02-2007, 05:47 PM
Not this version of Wlad ..Considering he's almost mirrong LL'S style with the jab ..And lets not forget Wlad's reach ..He could throw all the bombs he wanted but he has to be accurate with them .If this was the Tua that fought Ieabuchi then I would say hell yes but since then Tua has just come up short ..Hey I'd love for him to win the title but I just don't see him as the man to do it .. I dont know I have faith in Tua, I think he knows its now or never. This in my opinion is going to be Wlads most dangerous oppenent since Peter and Im looking foward to seeing the fight.
lefthook31
09-02-2007, 05:48 PM
If this is the case, I think Finkel takes the fight. Wladmir will have his hands full but its a real marketable fight and one that is necessary to push Wlads legacy forward.
Irish Steel
09-02-2007, 05:51 PM
WLad tko.
Jazzo
09-02-2007, 05:56 PM
As good a fight as any. Better than almost any actually, since we know that Klitschko will not unify.
There is no magic weight at which Tua becomes dangerous at (contrary to popular belief), but he is relatively dangerous to Klitschko at any weight.
semichin
09-02-2007, 06:01 PM
As good a fight as any. Better than almost any actually, since we know that Klitschko will not unify.
There is no magic weight at which Tua becomes dangerous at (contrary to popular belief), but he is relatively dangerous to Klitschko at any weight. Tua's dangerous for anyone at any weight;)
Jazzo
09-02-2007, 06:19 PM
Tua's dangerous for anyone at any weight;)
Agreed.
Shamrock
09-02-2007, 06:26 PM
Wlad knocks Tua out, beating the bums he has been fighting doesnt make Tua a credible challenger again at 34 years old.
Yes, I think that is the way it would go. Tua got no place even thinking about Wlad yet! I think Wlad KOs him.
Mr "T"
09-02-2007, 06:28 PM
Don't waste our time with this fight. Have TUA tag Peter and see how good he is. Tua beats Peter.
box03
09-02-2007, 06:28 PM
As good a fight as any. Better than almost any actually, since we know that Klitschko will not unify.
There is no magic weight at which Tua becomes dangerous at (contrary to popular belief), but he is relatively dangerous to Klitschko at any weight. As much as people might diagree this is a good fight for Tua to take, not just for the money or the title. He is a fighter that isnt afraid of throwing big punches and his chin is still tops in the division, in the past he has exposed fighters with less than great chins like moorer and ruiz to name a view. Who has Wlad had the most trouble with in the past big punchers like peter,sanders,and brewster. Plus all three had great chins and werent afraid to mix it up with wlad, the same qualities Tua posses.
AmazingHook
09-02-2007, 06:37 PM
Tua is always gonna be very dangerous because of his punching power and I'd love to see him win this fight but I don't think he'll be able to do it. Wlad is going to be just too much.
Tua's only chance is of course a knockout victory but in order to get the KO he needs to be very aggressive try to get inside, throw a lot of punches and be accurate. If he's willing to fight like this then he has a shot, but at the same time if he's fighting like that, then it's a huge risk that he'll get knocked the fuck out and I don't think he wants that to happen.
I think after Tua feels Wlad's power then he'll most likely be less aggressive and not take many risks to open and will not throw many power shots. I see Tua just following Wlad around the ring not doing that much for most of the fight and eat TONS and TONS of jabs..
Wlad by UD or the ref stops the fight late because it's so one-sided.
this would be a pointless fight. Tua has been fighting bums for years now. What a joke if this happens.
2smart4u
09-02-2007, 06:51 PM
this would be a pointless fight. Tua has been fighting bums for years now. What a joke if this happens.:hey SANDERS had only beaton bums for years before his fight with VLAD also !:deal
box03
09-02-2007, 06:56 PM
:hey SANDERS had only beaton bums for years before his fight with VLAD also !:deal Yeah, Lamon Brewster fought all bums before he beat Wlad. Im telling everyone give me someone with a good chin and power who aint afraid of mixing it up with Wlad and I will show you the next heavywieght champion.
Asterion
09-02-2007, 06:58 PM
Well, Tua is 34, which is not so old for a Heavyweight. But he is obviously past it, although his comeback has been okay since 2005. He still has the power and the chin, but lacks that explosiveness of the past.
This is a pointless fight, but better than others that could happen. I definitely prefer watching Wlad vs. Tua than Wlad vs. Briggs/Chambers/McCall/Thompson/Ruiz/etc.
Cool Avatar. Wlad is gay, and Tua is going to show him a right hand that will set him straight....no pun intended.tua needs to get in ONE (1) SINGLE SHOT and the gay will be ktfo... so for 12 long rounds he will be able to deliver that shot and KO the gay..
brooklyn1550
09-02-2007, 08:42 PM
Im telling everyone give me someone with a good chin and power who aint afraid of mixing it up with Wlad and I will show you the next heavywieght champion.
Samuel Peter has a good chin, power, and wasn't afraid to mix it up with Wlad. Wlad beat him convincingly.
TheGreat
09-02-2007, 08:47 PM
If tua dropped down to 225 or lower and regained some speed and foot work he would have a shot but since tat won't happen Wlad will win by lopsided UD IMO.
Fighting Weight
09-02-2007, 08:57 PM
Can't believe certain people aren't giving Tua a chance in this one, he's certainly more dangerous than anyone WALDS faced since PETERS for sure.
All depends on how hungry Tua is, if he comes in at 235 or under then WALDS in trouble, anything over than and he's in it for the final payday. If Tua catches WALD with a left hook like he caught Lewis with, the fights over :deal
2smart4u
09-02-2007, 09:00 PM
Can't believe certain people aren't giving Tua a chance in this one, he's certainly more dangerous than anyone WALDS faced since PETERS for sure.
All depends on how hungry Tua is, if he comes in at 235 or under then WALDS in trouble, anything over than and he's in it for the final payday. If Tua catches WALD with a left hook like he caught Lewis with, the fights over :deal:smoke Well TUA was 244 versues LL ! I dont recall you ever critisizing LLs win ? And remember TUA was ahead after 4 rounds ! maybe he would have won if he had come in shape ? :bart
don owens
09-02-2007, 09:01 PM
Wladimir wil KO THE FUCK OUT OF TUA. IF NOT HE WILL PUNISH HIM AND GET A UD. TUA HAS NO CHANCE AT THIS POINT.
Fighting Weight
09-02-2007, 09:04 PM
:smoke Well TUA was 244 versues LL ! I dont recall you ever critisizing LLs win ? And remember TUA was ahead after 4 rounds ! maybe he would have won if he had come in shape ? :bart
Tua was ahead against LL after 4 rounds???? That may be your worst line of bullshit yet :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
PROVE IT. Tua lost every round of that fight except maybe round 4 if I remember rightly, so how the fuck was he ever ahead? Go on Einstein, you've intrigued me on this one. Tell me which rounds Tua won in the fight....
box03
09-02-2007, 09:10 PM
Samuel Peter has a good chin, power, and wasn't afraid to mix it up with Wlad. Wlad beat him convincingly. true but Wlad was knocked down 3 times in that fight, and if Peter wouldnt of smothered his punches he would of won in my opinion. He was inexperienced also which helped Wlad alot in this fight, and if you watch he had Wlad out on his feet but was unable to execute properly.
2smart4u
09-02-2007, 09:12 PM
Tua was ahead against LL after 4 rounds???? That may be your worst line of bullshit yet :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
PROVE IT. Tua lost every round of that fight except maybe round 4 if I remember rightly, so how the fuck was he ever ahead? Go on Einstein, you've intrigued me on this one. Tell me which rounds Tua won in the fight....:patsch Go back and watch the fight and you will clearly here even the announcers claiming LL just wasnt doing enough at the rate he was fighting to win a decision !:deal YOUTUBE !
Fighting Weight
09-02-2007, 09:18 PM
:patsch Go back and watch the fight and you will clearly here even the announcers claiming LL just wasnt doing enough at the rate he was fighting to win a decision !:deal YOUTUBE !
Provide a link or shut the fuck up.
Lewis won every round in that fight in most observers eyes, I want to see the proof that Tua was ahead after 4 rounds. Post the youtube link, I beg you :good
Wlad would be an overwhelming favourite but as a kiwi I would put a lazy $20 on Tua at the TAB.
Tua carries his power late so rather than early assault, I would like to see him throw a lot of hooks at Wlads right bicep and forearm early to fatigue and neutralise his right hand power. If Wlad has to rely on his jab and movement, he will wane down the stretch, Tua should be able to time him with a counter right. Tuas right hand carries enough pop to buzz Wlad and he is a very good finisher.
He may not deserve the shot yet, however there are not many that do so why not take it if its on offer.
2smart4u
09-02-2007, 09:26 PM
Provide a link or shut the fuck up.
Lewis won every round in that fight in most observers eyes, I want to see the proof that Tua was ahead after 4 rounds. Post the youtube link, I beg you :good:patsch Prove he wasnt ! and sorry Im right and your wrong and Im not bothering searching for you ! If your memory is that bad you shouldnt be arguing ! Maybe thats why you argue about the past so much ! you dont remeber what actually happened !:yep
box03
09-02-2007, 09:30 PM
Wlad would be an overwhelming favourite but as a kiwi I would put a lazy $20 on Tua at the TAB.
Tua carries his power late so rather than early assault, I would like to see him throw a lot of hooks at Wlads right bicep and forearm early to fatigue and neutralise his right hand power. If Wlad has to rely on his jab and movement, he will wane down the stretch, Tua should be able to time him with a counter right. Tuas right hand carries enough pop to buzz Wlad and he is a very good finisher.
He may not deserve the shot yet, however there are not many that do so why not take it if its on offer. I like your strategy for taking down Wlad, my only concern is Tua having stamina issues down the stretch which might not allow him to finish Wlad. My plan would be to come out the gate early and take Wlad out as fast as possible or at leat make him a little weak in the knees, Tuas' power and chin could be enough to beat Wlad only time will tell
Fighting Weight
09-02-2007, 09:39 PM
:patsch Prove he wasnt ! and sorry Im right and your wrong and Im not bothering searching for you ! If your memory is that bad you shouldnt be arguing ! Maybe thats why you argue about the past so much ! you dont remeber what actually happened !:yep
PROVE IT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP!
I like your strategy for taking down Wlad, my only concern is Tua having stamina issues down the stretch which might not allow him to finish Wlad. My plan would be to come out the gate early and take Wlad out as fast as possible or at leat make him a little weak in the knees, Tuas' power and chin could be enough to beat Wlad only time will tell
You are right regarding Tuas stamina in a few fights, but I felt that was more under Kevin Barry. He had good stamina early in his career and has been slowly dropping weight since he has kicked off his comeback and has seemed to have better stamina.
My concern with early assault is that is when Wlad is fresh and strong and also that Steward will plan to have Wlad land his right hard and early to make Tua think twice about coming in as he did with Lewis.
2smart4u
09-02-2007, 09:43 PM
PROVE IT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP!
:lol: Now why would the guy who is right SHUTUP ? And Im the guy who is right !:hey
Fighting Weight
09-02-2007, 09:48 PM
:lol: Now why would the guy who is right SHUTUP ? And Im the guy who is right !:hey
Yep usual shit I see.
PROVE that Tua was ahead after 4 rounds to me, I dare you. I double dare you in fact. Lewis won practically every round of that fight and you know it, so you're deflecting now as usual moron.
PROVE THAT LEWIS WAS BEHIND AFTER 4 ROUNDS AGAINST TUA. I IMPLORE YOU :good
2smart4u
09-02-2007, 09:53 PM
Yep usual shit I see.
PROVE that Tua was ahead after 4 rounds to me, I dare you. I double dare you in fact. Lewis won practically every round of that fight and you know it, so you're deflecting now as usual moron.
PROVE THAT LEWIS WAS BEHIND AFTER 4 ROUNDS AGAINST TUA. I IMPLORE YOU :good:patsch LL was behind after 4 weight and was hurt bad at the end of round three by a hook that didnt quite land flush ! In fact LL had signifacant swelling in the side of his face and the anouncers were saying he had to get busier ! Which he did and TUA lost steam ! 20 extra pounds will do that to ya !:deal
TheGreat
09-02-2007, 09:57 PM
Tua was ahead against LL after 4 rounds???? That may be your worst line of bullshit yet :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Not quite his worse he actually thinks Vitaly is better than joe Louis....:rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :lol: :lol:
TheGreat
09-02-2007, 09:58 PM
Tua was ahead against LL after 4 rounds???? That may be your worst line of bullshit yet :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Not quite his worse he actually thinks Vitaly is better than Joe Louis....:rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :lol: :lol:
TheGreat
09-02-2007, 10:03 PM
Yep usual shit I see.
PROVE that Tua was ahead after 4 rounds to me, I dare you. I double dare you in fact. Lewis won practically every round of that fight and you know it, so you're deflecting now as usual moron.
PROVE THAT LEWIS WAS BEHIND AFTER 4 ROUNDS AGAINST TUA. I IMPLORE YOU :good
Tua only won 2 rounds against LL.
2smart4u
09-02-2007, 10:05 PM
Not quite his worse he actually thinks Vitaly is better than joe Louis....:rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :lol: :lol::patsch Actually I said VITALY is better then JOES competion ! You need some comprehension lessons !:deal
2smart4u
09-02-2007, 10:07 PM
Tua only won 2 rounds against LL.:lol: And they would be in the first 4 rounds ! So if one of the close rounds were given to TUA it supports my claim ! Thanks you dumb fuck !:yep TUA was ahead after 4 !:bbb
TheGreat
09-02-2007, 10:15 PM
:lol: And they would be in the first 4 rounds ! So if one of the close rounds were given to TUA it supports my claim ! Thanks you dumb fuck !:yep TUA was ahead after 4 !:bbb
You're the Dumb fuck you delusional dick riding bitch, LL nearly pitched a shut out against Tua who at best won 2 rounds in the entire fight.
TheGreat
09-02-2007, 10:18 PM
:patsch Actually I said VITALY is better then JOES competion ! You need some comprehension lessons !:deal
sorry to burst your bubble but Walcott, charles, and Marciano are light years better than your boy.
Shamrock
09-02-2007, 10:59 PM
Can't believe certain people aren't giving Tua a chance in this one, he's certainly more dangerous than anyone WALDS faced since PETERS for sure.
All depends on how hungry Tua is, if he comes in at 235 or under then WALDS in trouble, anything over than and he's in it for the final payday. If Tua catches WALD with a left hook like he caught Lewis with, the fights over :deal
:lol: :lol: :lol: If Lucky Len got in the draft of any Tua shots he woulda fainted with fright........:rofl
emanuel_augustus
09-02-2007, 11:02 PM
Useless fight. Tua at this point isn't even on the level a shopworn Brewster was on.
Wlad ko 4
2smart4u
09-02-2007, 11:03 PM
sorry to burst your bubble but Walcott, charles, and Marciano are light years better than your boy.:lol: They wouldnt even be in his weight class ! And like little guys today would get beat and easily ! :deal
2smart4u
09-02-2007, 11:05 PM
You're the Dumb fuck you delusional dick riding bitch, LL nearly pitched a shut out against Tua who at best won 2 rounds in the entire fight.:lol: I said he was ahead after 4 rounds ! So if he won three rounds he would be ahead wouldnt he ? Dont you think he may have won 3 rounds instead of 2 ! I rest my case and you sealed your fate as a dumb fuck ! thanks and cheers ! :good
Jazzo
09-03-2007, 03:15 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: If Lucky Len got in the draft of any Tua shots he woulda fainted with fright........:rofl
Funny that, because I heard that they were in a ring with each other for 12 rounds.
DamonD
09-03-2007, 04:45 AM
Lewis-Tua is history. Been there, done that, won practically every round.
Wladimir-Tua, well, this one's certainly come out of left-field for me.
It seems like all you need in the division is one good result (or even one good KO) and you're right in the title mix.
It could certainly make brutally clear to Tua that he hasn't been fighting consistant and correct opposition to ready himself for a title fight. I'd have to guess he'd be going in there with his usual swing & hope gameplan, and Wladimir would be well advised to simply repeat what he did against Brewster in the rematch - jab and move.
He's got the best possible trainer to befuddle Tua.
Shamrock
09-03-2007, 05:31 AM
Lewis-Tua is history. Been there, done that, won practically every round.
Wladimir-Tua, well, this one's certainly come out of left-field for me.
It seems like all you need in the division is one good result (or even one good KO) and you're right in the title mix.
It could certainly make brutally clear to Tua that he hasn't been fighting consistant and correct opposition to ready himself for a title fight. I'd have to guess he'd be going in there with his usual swing & hope gameplan, and Wladimir would be well advised to simply repeat what he did against Brewster in the rematch - jab and move.
He's got the best possible trainer to befuddle Tua.
On the button!:good
Drexl
09-03-2007, 05:34 AM
Is there anybody who predicts a Wladimir Klitschko knockdown or knockout of David Tua?
I could easily see a stoppage for Wlad with Tua still on his feet, due to too many unanswered flush punches.
Tua has a puncher's chance, but that's all. If Wlad fights intelligently there is no way he can lose this fight.
Cachibatches
09-03-2007, 05:36 AM
I could easily see a stoppage for Wlad with Tua still on his feet, due to too many unanswered flush punches.
Tua has a puncher's chance, but that's all. If Wlad fights intelligently there is no way he can lose this fight.
Unless he is posioned.
Shamrock
09-03-2007, 05:40 AM
Poisoned....yes? We just make sure the fight is not in britain :patsch :yep
DamonD
09-03-2007, 05:47 AM
Yeah, we poison everyone here. It's just so much fun!
Drexl
09-03-2007, 06:37 AM
Poisoned....yes? We just make sure the fight is not in britain :patsch :yep
Wlad vs Brewster was in Britain?
Really? :think
Drexl
09-03-2007, 06:40 AM
Unless he is posioned.
Yes, there is that possibility as well.
As long as Tua doesn't sneak in any mysterious green men with poisoned vaseline, Wlad should be OK.
:yep
Fighting Weight
09-03-2007, 09:51 AM
You're the Dumb fuck you delusional dick riding bitch
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Feiti
09-03-2007, 10:01 AM
Wlad vs Brewster was in Britain?
Really? :think
I think this was meant to be a joke about the allegedly bad cooking in Britain.
joeboxer
09-03-2007, 01:05 PM
If this fight happens its another disgrace. Tua has done nothing to warrant a title shot..or a top 15 ranking for that matter.
El Bombasto
09-03-2007, 01:17 PM
looks like tua's comeback tour is coming to an end
Drexl
09-03-2007, 03:09 PM
If this fight happens its another disgrace. Tua has done nothing to warrant a title shot..or a top 15 ranking for that matter.
Neither did Danny Williams. That didn't stop people claiming Vitali was the best HW in the universe after beating him.
...And neither did Corrie Sanders in 2003... :hey
semichin
09-03-2007, 03:20 PM
I could easily see a stoppage for Wlad with Tua still on his feet, due to too many unanswered flush punches.
Tua has a puncher's chance, but that's all. If Wlad fights intelligently there is no way he can lose this fight. You are correct...:good
( formerly drvooh, now semichin )
semichin
09-03-2007, 03:20 PM
I could easily see a stoppage for Wlad with Tua still on his feet, due to too many unanswered flush punches.
Tua has a puncher's chance, but that's all. If Wlad fights intelligently there is no way he can lose this fight. You are correct...:good
( formerly drvooh, now semichin )
Drexl
09-03-2007, 03:24 PM
You are correct...:good
( formerly drvooh, now semichin )
Why the name change. Vooh?
Shamrock
09-03-2007, 05:12 PM
Wlad vs Brewster was in Britain?
Really? :think
Let it go man, you know there are lots of sleezy brits with water bottles and the food is lousy there. :yep
Wlad is too much of a hard punching technician. I don't think Tua has ever faced anyone as skilled as Wlad.
Grabonator
09-03-2007, 05:46 PM
Tua needs to contact Mackie Shilstone, and get down to 227 for this fight, and also he needs none other than the Flava Flave of the Boxing World, Floyd Mayweather Sr. to train him for this fight. I dont really like the ugly ass old man, but next to Roger Mayweather, he may be the only one who can out strategize Emmanuel.
Tua doesnt need a Mayweather Sr. Tua is a puncher, a brawler. Mayweather would not be the right trainer for him. The only important think is that Tua gets in great shape, 230-235 pounds and gets his speed, explosion and timing back. Back then Tua was way faster than today. Tua is on the right track, hes fighting next weekend but i heard it will be against Cerrone Fox, and thats really a joke! Such opponents wont prepare him for a fighter as Klitschko! But i heard he will fight again in Oktober, if thats true, good!! But please against an Top20 opponent! Against Lewis Tua was 244 pounds but still his punches were much faster as today and way more explosive. Tua was verry muscular when he fought Lewis. Today hes not as muscular and hes lighter but he has a higher bodyfat percentage. But even if Tua comes in a ripped 230 pounds and in great shape his chances to beat Wlad are slim. Wlad has such a big height and reach advantage, tua would never reach him and Wlad would hit him with his jabs and straight right and win a UD, and Tua will not be able to see anything after the fight because his face will be swollen as hell.
DamonD
09-04-2007, 07:37 AM
It's right that it's not simply about the weigh-in for Tua.
He was perfectly capable of getting outboxed for long periods of time at his fabled, mythical 220 pound range as well...it's not weight alone that's his problem, it's technique.
David still shows the same problem he's had throughout his career, that he has problems handling good movement and a consistant jab, even at lighter weights. He's simply got to do something about that...and he's taking on arguably the best jabber in the division, so no wonder many are skeptical about his chances!
bugjuice_84
09-04-2007, 10:08 AM
this is 6 months to quick. Tua needs to open a few more tomatocans first:)
bugjuice_84
09-04-2007, 10:27 AM
3 years ago H$ll even 2 years ago. Tua catches Wlad sooner or later with that left; but today manny steward, has COMPLETELY turned Wlads Euro style to that of Lennox Lewis. LMAO when I saw Wlad vs. Brewster 2
I thought is that Lennox, Any way I think tua should gun for the other champs, and let someone else crumble that Lennox wantabe.
Shamrock
09-04-2007, 04:39 PM
Wlad is too much of a hard punching technician. I don't think Tua has ever faced anyone as skilled as Wlad.
Thats pretty much the way I see it, Tua comes off a one punch ko of a guy that put himself right there in front of him as though it is rehearsed and expect to be in the same ring as the worlds best tactician and dreaming of getting the same gift chance that he got with Montana. This all by way of promotional bribery, to get some sort of deal for out of court adjudication and settlement for ducking Briggs. What has boxing become? We expect to see the very best matchups at the top level instead of one forced on us by a bribery case, and not on ranking where it should be. Tua should fight for his ranking and become a credible opponent for Wlad Klitschko! The courtroom sagas are ruining the spectre and credibilty of the sport, and take the intrigue and excitement right out of it. I hope team Klitschko tell Tua to go and earn the chance to fight for the belt if only for the sheer prestige of what that means.
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