Prime 4 Prime

[OBCboxer]

Ok let's settle this Mike Tyson vs. Lennox Lewis.

[El Bombasto]

Either Tyson catches him or Lewis wins a UD

[nulty]

Lewis by late stoppage.

[box03]

Tyson would put Lewis to sleep in the 3rd round. I think the fight would be kinda quiet until Tyson finds away to get past Lewis' jab and all of a sudden Tyson lands a big punch in 3rd that got Lewis legs shaky, Lewis tries to clinch Tyson lets him putting his hands out to let the ref break it. Lewis still all messed up Tyson gets low and unleashes a combo 2 too the body and the left hook to the chin lays Lewis out, he tries to get up gallantly but the ref waves it off.

[nulty]

Tyson was to quick, to powerful, had stamina and would bob and weeve around Lewis's jab, get on the inside and utterly dominate Lennox from piller to post until the finally bomb was dropped. Kevin Rooney had a killer pitbull under his wing and Don King or even Tyson himself never knew that he was the mastermind behind this perfect killing machine. Rooney was the only one who controlled Tyson and the only one that new the style that was so perfectly designed for him. Prime for Prime, Tyson is way to much for Lennox Lewis to handle.

Peace.

He had stamina but no heart, and when on the inside LL's uppercuts, and power in the clinches would take Tysons spirit away from him.

[brooklyn1550]

Lennox Lewis TKO10 Mike Tyson

[nulty]

With Rooney, Tyson had no flaws. Just accept that.

Of course he did. If you think you've ever seen a flawless fighter then you're either deluded or blind.

[acb]

With Rooney, Tyson had no flaws. Just accept that.

Or maybe his level of opposition wasnt as great. :good

[acb]

No I'm actually being serious. He was fast, physically strong, had a chin, stamina, bone-crushing power, and HEART. That equals no flaws.

Tyson was not truely tested in this era so we dont know what was between his ears. I agree that physically he was a beast, but this is only half the story when you fight the best.

[nulty]

Or maybe his level of opposition wasnt as great. :good

Exactly, he fought drunks and drug addicts, has beens and never weres.

[Marnoff]

I go Tyson by stoppage.

Edit: Winning by decision would be possible, but given that Lewis' chin was always right there to get rocked, Tyson would find it on many occasions - in a big way.

[nulty]

No I'm actually being serious. He was fast, physically strong, had a chin, stamina, bone-crushing power, and HEART. That equals no flaws.

He was always mentally weak. It just wasn't exposed by the guys he faced (who had issues of their own).

[Marnoff]

He was always mentally weak. It just wasn't exposed by the guys he faced (who had issues of their own).

All of them?

[brooklyn1550]

No I'm actually being serious. He was fast, physically strong, had a chin, stamina, bone-crushing power, and HEART. That equals no flaws.

He certainly was great, but saying he had no flaws is a little extreme. You have to look at how a fighter deals with different styles before saying he has no flaws. How would he have done with a big man who had a great jab and knew how to use his reach? How would he have done with a bigger/harder hitting slugger with a great beard? How would he have done with a highly skilled boxer who could take a punch and come right back, tie you up and frusturate you?

Look at Shane Mosley. He is very fast, physically strong, has a chin, stamina, power, and heart. But that doesn't equal up to having no flaws. He struggled with 2 tall fighters with excellent jabs and the ability to use their reach and advantages.

NO fighter in boxing history was/is flawless

[stuistylee]

absolute prime mikey ko's lewis soon as he catches him...thats just what i think...

[Illmatic]

Imagine the first round of Tyson-Lewis twelve times

[nulty]

All of them?

Most of them, yeah.

[brooklyn1550]

Ok I can agree with that. But Tyson had skill to go along with power so no "slugger" would last and no Chris Byrd-like boxer would last. And his bob and weeve style makes it hard for a jab to find him.

I agree that Mike would knockout Chris Byrd and most sluggers.

However, I think George Foreman would cause him some real problems. I wouldn't classify Sonny Liston as a slugger, but he would be real trouble for Mike as well.

[Marnoff]

Most of them, yeah.

Then explain your statement, because it's not a "given", so you can't just say it.

[nulty]

Then explain your statement, because it's not a "given", so you can't just say it.

Mitch Greens problems are well known, Pinklon Thomas got addicted to heroin when he was 11, Berbick had documented mental issues, Spinks was cashing out and didn't come to fight, Holmes was coming out of retirement and stated himself he wanted a tune up but it was either tyson straight away or not at all. Marvis Fraizer was forced into the fight and pressured by his dads expectations. It goes on.

[Marnoff]

Mitch Greens problems are well known, Pinklon Thomas got addicted to heroin when he was 11, Berbick had documented mental issues, Spinks was cashing out and didn't come to fight, Holmes was coming out of retirement and stated himself he wanted a tune up but it was either tyson straight away or not at all. Marvis Fraizer was forced into the fight and pressured by his dads expectations. It goes on.

Spinks wasn't cashing out. He came to fight, but found Mike on his best night. Anything else is falsehood.

Holmes wasn't faded, not shot, and the "stated himself" remark... Holmes talks more shit and lies as much as any celebrity in history.

[Illmatic]

When they DID fight in 2002, Tyson won the first round.

Exactly. Thats what i meant.

[box03]

He was always mentally weak. It just wasn't exposed by the guys he faced (who had issues of their own). Tyson always had mental issues but at that time he had people who cared about him and helped him through his prblems like jimmy Jaccobs and Kevin Rooney once he lost them he was lost himself, after they left, his life spun out of control. His training camps were less tough and don king hired guys to tell him how great he was no matter what. Thats fine you say he was mentally weak, but Lewis' chin was weak and was eventually exposed for what was later on in his career in 94 by Mccall.

[nulty]

Tyson always had mental issues but at that time he had people who cared about him and helped him through his prblems like jimmy Jaccobs and Kevin Rooney once he lost them he was lost himself, after they left, his life spun out of control. His training camps were less tough and don king hired guys to tell him how great he was no matter what. Thats fine you say he was mentally weak, but Lewis' chin was weak and was eventually exposed for what was later on in his career in 94 by Mccall.

They didn't help him through his problems, there were just damn good at covering/cleaning up his mess. He was always out of control. Lewis actually had a good chin, he was on his feet against McCall and the ref who let Holmes continue against Shavers would damn sure have let LL continue then. Let me guess if holmes would have stopped on his feet against Shavers then he'd have a crap chin as well right?

[Alo2006]

Tyson by KO

[box03]

Ok, that still doesn't explain how Lewis used to get the better of him in their training sessions.

And Tyson always had mental problems. If his trainers were helping him with it, why was he grabbing Teddy Atlas's daughter's ass and mugging old ladies?

As far as Lewis's chin, it wasn't weak, he was dropped twice in his career by full on shots from big punchers, in the McCall fight he got up but the ref called it off, and unjustly in my opinion. He avenged both losses. Honestly I dont think Lewis had that bad of a chin, but he did get rocked alot similiar to Wlad, You cant discredit mike for his acomplishments over his career nor should you discredit Lewis for getting one pounch knockouts against him. Lewis had the better career, Tyson was better in his prime. So whos really better, everybody has there opinion.