Joshua Clottey.

[liljp361]

UNDERRATED. He should be mentioned at the top. I give him a good shot at beating just about any of the top weltwerweights in the world...yep.:smoke

[Amsterdam]

The Joshua Clottey fanbase is so absurd it is not even amusing. He lacks any at all true punching power, he has hand problems, serious stamina problems, defensive holes, fights in spurts, is weak to the body, weak to pressure and weak to fighters with good movement.

I expect him to lose to just about anyone halfway decent from here on out. He almost lost to C level Gutierez.

The only reason he is rated is because idiot boxing fans assume that Margarito was a true top class fighter.

[El Bombasto]

The Joshua Clottey fanbase is so absurd it is not even amusing. He lacks any at all true punching power, he has hand problems, serious stamina problems, defensive holes, fights in spurts, is weak to the body, weak to pressure and weak to fighters with good movement.

I expect him to lose to just about anyone halfway decent from here on out. He almost lost to C level Gutierez.

The only reason he is rated is because idiot boxing fans assume that Margarito was a true top class fighter.

That's a fairly accurate assesment of Clottey, but I still consider myself a fan. The Hitter always comes to fight and is pretty active for a top tier guy.

[brooklyn1550]

I have nothing against Clottey. I'm not a fan, but I don't dislike him. He's a good world class welterweight (probably around 7th). He is physically strong, tough, and quick. He's not real powerful because of his hand problems, covers up, and fights in spurts. He can give problems to many fighters at 147. However, I would favor Mayweather, Mosley, Cotto, De La Hoya, Williams, Margarito, and Cintron over him.

[TheGreat]

The Joshua Clottey fanbase is so absurd it is not even amusing. He lacks any at all true punching power, he has hand problems, serious stamina problems, defensive holes, fights in spurts, is weak to the body, weak to pressure and weak to fighters with good movement.

I expect him to lose to just about anyone halfway decent from here on out. He almost lost to C level Gutierez.

The only reason he is rated is because idiot boxing fans assume that Margarito was a true top class fighter.

:good Very true, well said.

[liljp361]

I have nothing against Clottey. I'm not a fan, but I don't dislike him. He's a good world class welterweight (probably around 7th). He is physically strong, tough, and quick. He's not real powerful because of his hand problems, covers up, and fights in spurts. He can give problems to many fighters at 147. However, I would favor Mayweather, Mosley, Cotto, De La Hoya, Williams, Margarito, and Cintron over him.

hmmm....I think Clottey can throw some amazing combinations and if I say amazing I mean not many fighters I've seen can do it like he does. imo... And I would favor most of those fighters over Clottey as well but I still give Clottey a damn good chance at any of em...If he is motivated I believe he can do some pretty good damage against any of those top guys...

[Unchained]

The Joshua Clottey fanbase is so absurd it is not even amusing. He lacks any at all true punching power, he has hand problems, serious stamina problems, defensive holes, fights in spurts, is weak to the body, weak to pressure and weak to fighters with good movement.

I expect him to lose to just about anyone halfway decent from here on out. He almost lost to C level Gutierez.

The only reason he is rated is because idiot boxing fans assume that Margarito was a true top class fighter.

:patsch Gimme a break man, you are acting like he is a tomatto. Monster overstating.

[Marnoff]

The Joshua Clottey fanbase is so absurd it is not even amusing. He lacks any at all true punching power, he has hand problems, serious stamina problems, defensive holes, fights in spurts, is weak to the body, weak to pressure and weak to fighters with good movement.

I expect him to lose to just about anyone halfway decent from here on out. He almost lost to C level Gutierez.

The only reason he is rated is because idiot boxing fans assume that Margarito was a true top class fighter.

Exactly.

[WhataRock]

The Joshua Clottey fanbase is so absurd it is not even amusing. He lacks any at all true punching power, he has hand problems, serious stamina problems, defensive holes, fights in spurts, is weak to the body, weak to pressure and weak to fighters with good movement.

I expect him to lose to just about anyone halfway decent from here on out. He almost lost to C level Gutierez.

The only reason he is rated is because idiot boxing fans assume that Margarito was a true top class fighter.

Somewhat agree but thats pretty harsh, I can see you have argued this point to death with people but thats a bit of a negative slant on Clottey.

Clottey could pick up a trinket....but probably in a different era. Welterweight is to strong now and though I dont agree he will "lose to just about anyone halfway decent", he wont trouble any of the top10 fighters at welter.

[liljp361]

The Joshua Clottey fanbase is so absurd it is not even amusing. He lacks any at all true punching power, he has hand problems, serious stamina problems, defensive holes, fights in spurts, is weak to the body, weak to pressure and weak to fighters with good movement.

I expect him to lose to just about anyone halfway decent from here on out. He almost lost to C level Gutierez.

The only reason he is rated is because idiot boxing fans assume that Margarito was a true top class fighter.

I rate him because of how well he can do his thing once he gets in there. He can do some amazing things in the ring.

[Amsterdam]

I rate him because of how well he can do his thing once he gets in there. He can do some amazing things in the ring.

Such as?

[Toopretty]

Such as?

You are an idiot what defensive holes..he shells up and you only can get a body shot off...and then he has fast hands and can counter your silly ass...You are just one know nothing boxing retard..Like that underacheiving goofball in your avatar is a perfect fighter..lol:rofl:rofl:nut:nut:nut

[bumdujour]

joshua clotty is a very skilled, very tough fighter. a real world class fighter.

he would give every champion a run for his money . and he might be able to beat a guy like cintron.

i would rank him in the top ten......around 7,8 or 9.

[bigeddie27]

Originally Posted by liljp361
I rate him because of how well he can do his thing once he gets in there. He can do some amazing things in the ring.

Such as?

his triple and double up of his left hook. Very quick and powerful, always seems to catch someone with one out of the three punches. Clottey can bang and I can see him taking out Cotto btw.

[Amsterdam]

Originally Posted by liljp361
I rate him because of how well he can do his thing once he gets in there. He can do some amazing things in the ring.

Such as?

his triple and double up of his left hook. Very quick and powerful, always seems to catch someone with one out of the three punches.

Yes, he has fast hands, this I have never denied. But powerful he is not and fighting in spurts with only quick hands and limited stamina without real punching power is not going to work out well against top level fighters.

Even a guy like David Estrada would beat Clottey pretty clearly, that's the level in which Clottey is truly residing at.

[liljp361]

Yes, he has fast hands, this I have never denied. But powerful he is not and fighting in spurts with only quick hands and limited stamina without real punching power is not going to work out well against top level fighters.

Even a guy like David Estrada would beat Clottey pretty clearly, that's the level in which Clottey is truly residing at.

LOL....your kidding me....

[41fever]

top ten WW

[Amsterdam]

LOL....your kidding me....

No, I am not.

[C Money]

The Joshua Clottey fanbase is so absurd it is not even amusing. He lacks any at all true punching power, he has hand problems, serious stamina problems, defensive holes, fights in spurts, is weak to the body, weak to pressure and weak to fighters with good movement.

I expect him to lose to just about anyone halfway decent from here on out. He almost lost to C level Gutierez.

The only reason he is rated is because idiot boxing fans assume that Margarito was a true top class fighter.

:good

I'm just hoping he gets to be an odds favorite vs a semi live fighter= $$$$$$$ in the pocket:yep Say maybe Clottey vs Collazo??? Something a long those lines.

[Amsterdam]

Estrada cannot beat Clottey. Are you joking? Why do you always have to go to extremes to make a point, Amsterdam? You don't like Clottery.. we get it..

Estrada took 3 rounds from Mosely, pushed Cintron very hard and has KOed some decent fringe contender level fighters and is very relentless.

Clottey had trouble with his last tomato can, he broke his hand and gassed in the 3rd. That particular can was taken out in a round by Chop Chop Corley, Estrada is a tough son of a bitch who's about to KO Andre Berto.

Yet he 'cannot' defeat Clottey by a decision?

[Amsterdam]

Clottey can surely beat Cintron... it's only a matter of time before Cintron losses that belt. I can name 8 guys off the top in his division that will beat him, he can't avoid them forever.

:rofl

Cintron will lose the belt. But you don't even have the styles correct here. Cintron right hand down the guard at will, then Clottey is sparked. Fighting in spurts and being feather fisted aren't going to help you against a powerful boxer-puncher who can stay long.

[Amsterdam]

Clottey is too fast for the slow Cintron and has more heart than Cintron cuz Kermit has none. This guy is a fraud who built himself up by picking up a belt and beating three nobodies... well Clottey isn't a nobody. Clottey will overwhelm him with punches in bunches.

Which lack sufficient power to KO a Welterweight, in which he will then bust his hands and gas and get KOed from straight right's.

[Amsterdam]

You don't need a lot of power to beat someone with no heart. Cintron reminds me of Jeffery Resto.

And you don't need heart to beat a C+ level never was.

[Amsterdam]

This so called C+ fighter was beating a guy before he got injured who beat the manhood out of Cintron. So Cintron must be D level. Yeah I know about the styles thing but if you don't have the heart you can't apply the style.

Which is not the current version of Cintron under Steward. Likewise with styles, Clottey's works well against sloppy swarmers, until he gasses or breaks his hands that is.:yep

[Amsterdam]

He fought nobodies after the Cintron loss so you can't bring up the Steward argument, he's looked just like he did before the Margo fight.

Estrada is not a nobody. Clottey struggles with an even lesser level than Estrada.

Then of course sparking Matthysse in 2, a guy who troubled Williams, the guy who beat crappy Margarito...

[bigeddie27]

Amsterdam ([Only registered and activated users can see links]): i dont think clottey is feather fisted at all. Remeber how busted up diego was (and i know chico was moving up two weight classes, but he broke his jaw for chrsits sake!). If you can cause damage like breaking jaws against pro boxers you got power sorry. I know you like to get technical about things so i will cite some examples:

edison miranda broke aurthur abrahams jaw - edison is a known puncher
joe frazier broke muhammed ali's jaw - frazier is a known puncher
antonio tarver broke eric hardings jaw (2nd fight) - antonio is a know puncher

it takes some power to break a jaw and if you have examples of a feather fisted puncher doing so i would like to see so.