Clotto (Cotto vs Clottey) RBR

[GPater11093]

im leaving at 2 so i thought id set it up as a gift to yous all

[ishy]

here we go...

[Grievesy]

Which one of you sad bastards is gonna find out how many belts have been vacated in the last five years?

[ishy]

Not me, I bet GPater is up to it :yep

[Mandanda]

Yes Calderon Time

This Could Be A Great Fight Mayol's No Mug

[Grievesy]

Yeah, that would get him a mention form Buncey.:lol:

[ishy]

I've just made a thread in the GF saying we're getting this fight in the UK just to piss them off :yep

[djoc175]

I've just made a thread in the GF saying we're getting this fight in the UK just to piss them off :yep
:happyI'll be right over!!

[Mandanda]

I think mic men are right Calderon is trying to impress that worries me a little Mayol looks dangerous and i hope Ivan boxes like normally because he could lose this boxing out of his normal style.

[TFFP]

I'm not watching this, but its a matter of time before Calderon gets KTFO. He's past prime and he's looked shakey.

[Mandanda]

I'm not watching this, but its a matter of time before Calderon gets KTFO. He's past prime and he's looked shakey.

Your right he looks uneasy and doesn't look prepared to trade or take shots looks like he may lose his crown here and now.

[ishy]

Calderon not looking all that great. Mayol is an awkward fucker.

[Mandanda]

Similar cut to Cazares cut not as bad though but could be enough to stop fight. Calderon can't blame it on everyone else all the time to he does come in reckless at times himself.

[bored]

Calderon cut in another fight. Getting to the stage where it's probably going to happen pretty often. Bit worrying when he has ith appen after a long break like he's had.

[Mandanda]

To me Calderon doesn't want to go and has quit in my opinion. It's bad but not that bad.

[ishy]

Going to the scorecards....

[Mandanda]

Mayol wins imo

[GazOC]

To me Calderon doesn't want to go and has quit in my opinion. It's bad but not that bad.

This is the other side to the accidental butt issue that cost Kooner a loss on the UK card.

[Grievesy]

I didn't think the cut was that bad. Fighters have gone on with much worse cuts than that.

[Mandanda]

This is the other side to the accidental butt issue that cost Kooner a loss on the UK card.

Yeah i agree.

They have now stopped the blood i think he bent rules but i don't think he will win.

[Mandanda]

Draw!!!!

Calderon after tonight has lost any chance imo of getting a big fight or a chance on HBO.

[ishy]

58-56 Calderon
58-56 Mayol
57-57 Draw

DRAW!!!

[TFFP]

To me "engineering" a stoppage, and then winning the fight legit due to the rounds you have accumulated is a lesser evil than somebody headbutting their opponent and being awarded a stoppage victory.

Two completely different levels of bullshit, the Brit rules are disgraceful.

[SouthpawSlayer]

ah shit starts

[Mandanda]

To me "engineering" a stoppage, and then winning the fight legit due to the rounds you have accumulated is a lesser evil than somebody headbutting their opponent and being awarded a stoppage victory.

Two completely different levels of bullshit, the Brit rules are disgraceful.


I agree with you on that although i do feel Calderon is making a nasty habit of this. The rules will never be perfect but for me the Brit ones have to change imo.

[GazOC]

I know its horses for courses but under the BBBof C rules Calderson would have wanted to try to carry on amd force the fight, with the 'international' rules he can just think "Fuck it, I'll take my chances on the cards",

With this and the Kooner fight we've seen both sides of the question tonight.

[D-MAC]

Bullshit stoppage.

That was not a "bad cut"; it could have gone on.

[GazOC]

To me "engineering" a stoppage, and then winning the fight legit due to the rounds you have accumulated is a lesser evil than somebody headbutting their opponent and being awarded a stoppage victory.

Two completely different levels of bullshit, the Brit rules are disgraceful.


To play Devils Advocate a moment, what if the accidental butt is caused by the fighter who ends up recieving the cut and he then goes on to win on the cards? The other guy has lost through no fault of his own.

[ishy]

I have just helped myself to a Choc Ice from the freezer..

[TFFP]

I agree with you on that although i do feel Calderon is making a nasty habit of this. The rules will never be perfect but for me the Brit ones have to change imo.
Of course, there is a flaw either way, it can never be perfect. But ultimately the doctor is there to do a job, it should be pretty obvious to him if its obscuring the fighter in such a way he can't continue. I don't think the onus should be on the boxer to dictate whether he carries on or stops depending on his situation - the ref and the doc in tandem should be strong and it will help eliminate that problem.

Flukeing a headbutt and getting stoppage is just wrong on every level, at least with the above a fighter has "earnt" the win to some extent. The line between accidental and purposeful can be very hazey, the rule sends out a poor message.

[GazOC]

Bunce is right, that fight could have continued.

[djoc175]

I might not even bother to watch the rematch if it materialises

[djoc175]

Patter

[TFFP]

Thats probably what I'm saying, there was too much onus on the fighter to say "I can't see" or such. Of course that way the system can be engineered to a fighters advantage.

They should take the play away from the fighter and give the doctor/ref the power. A trained doctor can see if a cut is obscuring a fighter badly enough to warrant a stoppage. If its not in a bad place or there is only a small trickle, tough luck...thats the sport.

[GazOC]

Thats probably what I'm saying, there was too much onus on the fighter to say "I can't see" or such. Of course that way the system can be engineered to a fighters advantage.

They should take the play away from the fighter and give the doctor/ref the power. A trained doctor can see if a cut is obscuring a fighter badly enough to warrant a stoppage. If its not in a bad place or there is only a small trickle, tough luck...thats the sport.

Yep, fair comment. If the doctor says the fighter is OK and the fighters says he can't see then its a TKO. The way it is now, if the fighter with the cut doesn't fancy it and thinks he's got a decent chance on the cards then he'll 'quit'.

[gasman]

Patter

GPater - got a mention from Buncey for the Great Welterweight Question, nice one and I heard Slip&Counter, plus ESB got a second consecutive mention, I am well impressed. Setanta-ESB love - that's what I talkin about!!:happy:happy

PS - Fuck Sky - they would never do shit like that:deal

[djoc175]

GPater - got a mention from Buncey for the Great Welterweight Question, nice one and I heard Slip&Counter, plus ESB got a second consecutive mention, I am well impressed. Setanta-ESB love - that's what I talkin about!!:happy:happy

PS - Fuck Sky - they would never do shit like that:deal
Yeah Bunce does interact with some sites.I remember last time he asked for crazy match ups involving mad fighters and read them out

[ishy]

Buncey's thread on boxrec asking for welter title fights is only two pages long.

Also there is a thread from Audley Harrison (or someone claiming to be Audley) calling Haye out :rofl

Yo fight fans.

If David Haye aint got a Ukranian brother to call out now then I would like to ram his past sparring antics up his throat. He took liberties in sparring against me but if he decides to take me on now I will show him what the score is.

Peace out.

[D-MAC]

GPater - got a mention from Buncey for the Great Welterweight Question, nice one and I heard Slip&Counter, plus ESB got a second consecutive mention, I am well impressed. Setanta-ESB love - that's what I talkin about!!:happy:happy

PS - Fuck Sky - they would never do shit like that:deal

Yeah, but he got a mention for De La Hoya - Quartey; it should have been for Basilio - DeMarco II, which he quoted and which was the better fight.

Am I the only one who remembers that DLH-Ike was Grade-A balls for about 9 or 10 rounds before the two Kd's. Its no classic at WW.

[hitman_hatton1]

I have just helped myself to a Choc Ice from the freezer..

forgot to buy some when i went to iceland's the other day. :-(

could murder one right now.

such a stuffy old night ain't it.

thought they would have given us a decent profile undercard fight.

the sport lacks the depth of talent it used to have. :bart

[GazOC]

Yeah Bunce does interact with some sites.I remember last time he asked for crazy match ups involving mad fighters and read them out


Yep, he got my fucking name wrong!!!:|

[McGrain]

They should take the play away from the fighter and give the doctor/ref the power. A trained doctor can see if a cut is obscuring a fighter badly enough to warrant a stoppage. If its not in a bad place or there is only a small trickle, tough luck...thats the sport.

That is exactly how it works, in theory.

I wonder what the question the doctor asked was? The one Calderon shook his head in resopnse to?

I enjoyed the fight very much.

[ishy]

Yep, he got my fucking name wrong!!!:|

Gazzock :rofl

[djoc175]

Buncey's thread on boxrec asking for welter title fights is only two pages long.

Also there is a thread from Audley Harrison (or someone claiming to be Audley) calling Haye out :rofl
They used to be good friends didn't they?

[gasman]

Yeah Bunce does interact with some sites.I remember last time he asked for crazy match ups involving mad fighters and read them out

Love the style...Andy and Buncey are like 2 of the lads sittin around the campfire talkin shop....

[GazOC]

Am I the only one who remembers that DLH-Ike was Grade-A balls for about 9 or 10 rounds before the two Kd's. Its no classic at WW.

My big memory of that fight is how disappointing Quartey was.

[djoc175]

Yep, he got my fucking name wrong!!!:|
Is it possible to change your username?

[slip&counter]

Buncey just gave me a shout out for quartey vs de la hoya, cheers big man you're a legend!

[djoc175]

Korobov impresses me

[ishy]

Why is Korobov still in 4 rounders?

[McGrain]

Why is Korobov still in 4 rounders?

Well he's still in single figures plus he is really busy this year.

Plus, his other job as a contract killer keeps him up at night.

[slip&counter]

My big memory of that fight is how disappointing Quartey was.

nah, that was a great fight, it was made at a time when not many welters were facing eachother and this match up opened up a lot of scenarios, plus this fight sealed what heart DLH had i always questioned him before this but it was a classic between two very good technicians, the way oscar was gritting his teeth and shoe shining at the end was funny

[ishy]

Well he's still in single figures plus he is really busy this year.

Plus, his other job as a contract killer keeps him up at night.

:lol:

He's 25/26 and they want to move him along quickly. He'd be better off fighting every other month rather than every month if it means the opposition is tougher. After 3 or 4 fights talented fighters should step up past the 4 rounds anyway.

[Mandanda]

I don't rate Korobov that much to be honest.

[TFFP]

nah, that was a great fight, it was made at a time when not many welters were facing eachother and this match up opened up a lot of scenarios, plus this fight sealed what heart DLH had i always questioned him before this but it was a classic between two very good technicians, the way oscar was gritting his teeth and shoe shining at the end was funny
Shame he didn't grit his teeth towards the end against Tito :p

[Carnage]

What?!Calderon drew?!What happend there, sorry I'm a bit late on this news but that bit of a shock ain't it??

[D-MAC]

nah, that was a great fight, it was made at a time when not many welters were facing eachother and this match up opened up a lot of scenarios, plus this fight sealed what heart DLH had i always questioned him before this but it was a classic between two very good technicians, the way oscar was gritting his teeth and shoe shining at the end was funny

From what I remember it was two very good fighters involved in a very mediocre fight; the action was shit/non-existent until the two KD's, and even after that it was no classic. Tentative as hell going through eight rounds.

In my book it is no WW classic; in the modern era Margarito's fights with Williams, Mosely and Cotto were better (bricks or no bricks).

[D-MAC]

Shame he didn't grit his teeth towards the end against Tito :p

He was certainly shoe-shining though, even if it was with his shoes rather than his gloves.

[Mandanda]

What?!Calderon drew?!What happend there, sorry I'm a bit late on this news but that bit of a shock ain't it??

It was after clash of heads. I felt Mayol did enough but judges didn't.
Wasn't a great fight. Calderon looked rather shaky at times and boxed cautiously and Mayol the taller man was coming in with head and caught him. Myself and a few others felt he could of went on but Calderon didn't and made a meal of it and got his way and fight went to scorecards.

[djoc175]

Margarito/PW is under-rated.I was thinking that,despite the fact that people will be put off Margarito,he was always in good fights

[bored]

Would like to see the punch stats on how many jabs Korobov throws. Doesn't throw it enough for me. Not the finished article by any means but looking at middleweight it won't be long before he's up there imo.

[SouthpawSlayer]

i really like korobov looked a bit shit tonight

[GazOC]

Is it possible to change your username?

Is "Ray Hatton" taken? I'm tired of the lies.....;)

[TFFP]

Trotter is still Ray, I have absolutely no doubts about that. His scoring for Hatton-Collazo proved it, he probably actually scored it 120-107 but changed it for credibility.

[djoc175]

Is that a yes?

[GazOC]

Trotter is still Ray, I have absolutely no doubts about that. His scoring for Hatton-Collazo proved it, he probably actually scored it 120-107 but changed it for credibility.


Check out SouthpawSlayers post in that thread.....its the most transparent piece of lying I've ever seen on ESB!!!

[ishy]

I'm blushing here...

[TFFP]

Ishy getting all kinds of props from Bunce

What did Southpaw say? :nut

[ishy]

Buncey and Andy thanking us :happy :happy

[D-MAC]

Yeh, got a mention:D

[darwoody]

I'm blushing here...
You just achieved my lifelong dream. A shouout from Buncey:twisted:

[Carnage]

Big up the east siiiiiiiiiiide!!!!

[TFFP]

Oh God Jennings looked like such a frail little kid in there...it was shocking

[gasman]

I heard Ishy & Beestonbrawler, and one more, but fuck me ESB should float on the stock market after all this love. Very impressed with Buncey and Andy, definitely listen to the fans....

[doug.ie]

jennings was alright...the 2nd round of that fight he did well...cotto is an animal at the weight though..looks so big in his build

[SouthpawSlayer]

Check out SouthpawSlayers post in that thread.....its the most transparent piece of lying I've ever seen on ESB!!!

hold up what thread you on about now

[GazOC]

114 113 to collazo for me TFFP

i didnt rewatch it TFFP but thats how i scored it when i saw it live and i rewatched it a few times before hatton pac and scored it the same

imo this was a very good fight except for the result

You sat, watched and scored Hatton-Collazo "a few times" before the Pac fight? Just for fun?

Come on....

[SouthpawSlayer]

You sat, watched and scored Hatton-Collazo "a few times" before the Pac fight? Just for fun?

Come on....


yeah twice honest to god, i was off work for a week and was working nights at the time so used to sit up watch hatton fights trying to settle my nerves convincing myself hatton had no chance for the pac fight, plus i love that fight collazo's style is my bread and butter and hatton showed serious gonads in that fight

[djoc175]

He said Clotto...hes reading this thread

[SouthpawSlayer]

i get the feeling this long wait might have something got to do with cotto's camp making sure clottey's hand wraps are perfectly legal

[djoc175]

You sat, watched and scored Hatton-Collazo "a few times" before the Pac fight? Just for fun?

Come on....
Put that Carling down ;)

[ishy]

Buncey was WBO writer of the year :lol:

[GazOC]

Put that Carling down ;)

Carling? I'm on the Baileys and feeling very mellow. If SS says he SCORED that fight A FEW TIMES prior to Hatton-Pac then I guess I'll have to take his word for it.....:good

[SouthpawSlayer]

Put that Carling down ;)

so if gaz wants to drink his carling it gives him the right to call me a liar, well im distraught

[GazOC]

Buncey was WBO writer of the year :lol:


What a shameless name drop that was......:lol:

[djoc175]

Carling? I'm on the Baileys and feeling very mellow. If SS says he SCORED that fight A FEW TIMES prior to Hatton-Pac then I guess I'll have to take his word for it.....:good
Sorry I thought I read Carling in yesterdays discussion

Here comes Clottey...

[djoc175]

so if gaz wants to drink his carling it gives him the right to call me a liar, well im distraught
Put your handbag down,relax;)

[gasman]

Right lads, enjoy the fight!!!
LETS GET IT ONNNNNNNNN!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!

[D-MAC]

Bunce better read out my Benitez - Palomino or else I'll fucking kill him!

If he gives props to Hatton -Collazo then he must mention this one.:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:

[McGrain]

Buncey was WBO writer of the year :lol:

:lol:

[ishy]

Bunce better read out my Benitez - Palomino or else I'll fucking kill him!

If he gives props to Hatton -Collazo then he must mention this one.:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:

Don't get too greedy, he's already read one of your posts out :lol:

[McGrain]

Bunce better read out my Benitez - Palomino or else I'll fucking kill him!


Can't say that shit on the internet these days chum, the police come to your home :lol:


Let's get it on, these boys are fucking ready to go!

[SouthpawSlayer]

yeah im up for this one

[ishy]

We could be in for c racker here!

[gasman]

Bunce better read out my Benitez - Palomino or else I'll fucking kill him!

If he gives props to Hatton -Collazo then he must mention this one.:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl forget it kid, watch the fight.

[SouthpawSlayer]

here we fucking go

[ishy]

Even the refs asking them to go toe to toe :yep

[GazOC]

How did Cotto ever make 140?

[ishy]

Damn!!!

[djoc175]

Kd!

[JonOli]

Clottey down at end of first - he'll fight on though.

[TFFP]

Jab come left hook (am i being generous to Clottey? :lol:)

It is his power hand...

[McGrain]

Great, great boxing and then a wonderful punch. Great round of boxing.

We're on.

[GazOC]

10-9 Cotto.

[D-MAC]

10-8 Cotto

That wasn't a dominant round by Clottey, Cotto has to get the two point gap.

[McGrain]

10-8 Cotto

That wasn't a dominant round by Clottey, Cotto has to get the two point gap.

agree

[ishy]

Cotto takes the 2nd.

20-17 in his favour.

[TFFP]

10-8
9-10

[SouthpawSlayer]

cotto lands a tua like left hook and puts clottey down, clottey looking good in rd 2

[D-MAC]

This fight is being fought at Cotto's pace.

10 - 8 Cotto
10- 9 Cotto

[McGrain]

10-8
9-10

agree

[GazOC]

20-18 Cotto.

10-9 for the 1st for me, it was going to be 10-9 Clottey so I won't give 3 points for the KD to make it a 10-8.

[TFFP]

Typical Clottey...could be doing a lot more but its defence first. Landing the better shots when he bothers.

Cotto cut...damn

[djoc175]

shit...

[ishy]

That is one horrible cut!!!

[D-MAC]

10 - 8 Cotto
10- 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto

[McGrain]

This fight is not going to points.

[GazOC]

Fucking hell, not this again!!

[JonOli]

ouch it looks a sizable cut

[gasman]

FFS!!!!!That cut is bad

[GazOC]

Thats a shocker!!

[TFFP]

Cut dealt with pretty well there...

[ishy]

10 - 8 Cotto
10- 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto

ditto

:good

[ishy]

Clottey and his big fucking head :fire :patsch

[TFFP]

I'm worried about Cotto late in this fight...real worried. Something looks real bad about this.

[McGrain]

What a great, great, great fucking fight so far.

Good refereeing so far.

The cut. The cut.

[gasman]

Let them fight

[SouthpawSlayer]

dont fucking stop it

[TFFP]

Cotto did very well there, with the cut looking nasty.

Seems like a lot of effort and he's not getting much change out of Clottey's defensive posture...

[McGrain]

"It's nothing, it's nothing", contrast that with Calderon's attitude over a much less serious cut.

I love this fight and both these guys.

[GazOC]

I'm worried about Cotto late in this fight...real worried. Something looks real bad about this.


With hat cut I can't see the fight going more than a few more rounds.

[ishy]

Gave the 4th to Clottey

[D-MAC]

10 - 8 Cotto
10- 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Clottey

[D-MAC]

Gave the 4th to Clottey

Ditto right back at ya:good

[GazOC]

"It's nothing, it's nothing", contrast that with Calderon's attitude over a much less serious cut.

I love this fight and both these guys.

Yep, and you can see its bothering Cotto a lot more than Calderons was bothering him.

[McGrain]

Shit, boys I think Cotto is struggling to see that right hand. I think he needs to consider getting his left foot outside of CLottey and starting again.

But I fear it will be stopped.

[McGrain]

wtf

[ishy]

Clottey injured after Cotto push. This looks bad. Ref, "Be a champ and walk it off...I'll give you 5 mins."

[JonOli]

wtf

[Mandanda]

Clottey is trying it on here

[GazOC]

What next???

[TFFP]

The positive for Cotto is...if he comes through this he erases all doubts about his heart. Ultimate adversity.

[McGrain]

knee?

[ishy]

This could be some epic shit tonight.

[SouthpawSlayer]

cotto was watching the ufc earlier

[McGrain]

This could be some epic shit tonight.

Already is man. Already is in my opinion, this is just great, dramatic stuff.

[ishy]

Clottey takes the 5th as well IMO, 48-46 in Cotto's favour on my card.

[GazOC]

Clottey was just after a "free point" in case the fight ended b/c of the cut IMHO.

[D-MAC]

10 - 8 Cotto
10- 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Clottey

[GazOC]

The positive for Cotto is...if he comes through this he erases all doubts about his heart. Ultimate adversity.


Even if he doesn't come through he's shown a lot of heart.

[ishy]

WTF is Clottey doing?

[TFFP]

This is a complete reversal of fortunes. I'd rather have the cut than the knee...Clottey has looked fucked since

[McGrain]

Wondeful action. Everyone in the Uk who is asleep is a dumb cunt.

[SouthpawSlayer]

this fight is alll over the place

[ishy]

Already is man. Already is in my opinion, this is just great, dramatic stuff.

After that 6th round, I concur :good

6th is a clear Cotto round. I have him 58-55 ahead.

[D-MAC]

10 - 8 Cotto
10- 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Cotto (big)

[Mandanda]

Cotto is hurting Clottey that shell guard is getting penetrated.

[gasman]

lovnin this fight

[doug.ie]

clottey busted his left hand in round 4

[TFFP]

Cotto looked really hurt in that round :|

[GazOC]

Cottos starting to look like he did in the second half of the Margo fight.

[D-MAC]

10 - 8 Cotto
10- 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Cotto (big)
10 - 9 Clottey

[Mandanda]

Worrying round for Cotto there. He has to back Clottey up and force fight and try get Clottey to lead.

[bored]

This is class.

I love boxing.

I love Setanta.

[SouthpawSlayer]

this is good

[gasman]

Yep I think it is clottys if he follows up with those singles

[McGrain]

Cotto looked really hurt in that round :|

Cottos starting to look like he did in the second half of the Margo fight.


I thought he rallied really impressively considering whate shipped.

[D-MAC]

Cottos starting to look like he did in the second half of the Margo fight.


Not quite that yet I would think:smooch

[ishy]

Thank fuck Setanta have survived.

[McGrain]

Thank fuck Setanta have survived.

:lol::lol:

[McGrain]

That head shake from Clottey was chilling.

He will win, I think.

[djoc175]

Great fight

[gasman]

Commentators are clearly Cotto nuthuggers!!

[TFFP]

Cotto just can't see punches, its a bit too much.

[Grievesy]

Why did Cotto back off? He had him in the corner ffs.

[D-MAC]

10 - 8 Cotto
10- 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Cotto (big)
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Clottey

[ishy]

Clottey clawing these rounds back. That right hand he landed halfway through the round was quality. 76-75 Cotto.

[GazOC]

Great fight. Unless the cut stops it I think Clottey is going to stop him.

[darwoody]

its probably gonna get stopped

[McGrain]

Why did Cotto back off? He had him in the corner ffs.

We'll have time to figure it out when we watch it ten more times :good

9 up

[SouthpawSlayer]

someone shoot that doctor

[Broxi]

Almost slept thru this again, woke up just five minutes before the start. God damn Setanta broadband is f@#ked too.

Here we go.

[ishy]

After fight I will go to sleep then wake up, have my breakfast and watch the fight again. This is fucking awesome stuff!!


Here comes Cotto back!! And he backs off again!

[McGrain]

This is the best fight i've seen since Marquez-Vasquez III.

[TFFP]

Cotto rallied well at the end of the round...need more of that.

Not sure he won the round on mine...but on the judges ya never know.

[ishy]

I love these African languages, they sound badass.

[D-MAC]

10 - 8 Cotto
10- 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Cotto (big)
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 10 Even

[ishy]

I'm giving the 9th even. 86-85 Cotto.

edit: Mac, WTF :fire You are scoring this exactly the same as me!!

[darwoody]

Its a great fight, both fighters deserve to hear the final bell

[punchdrunkgench]

watever happens reamtch rematch rematch got the makings of a classic series

[punchdrunkgench]

Its a great fight, both fighters deserve to hear the final bell


totally agree m8 good pst

[gasman]

Great fight

[TFFP]

Clottey really let him off the hook in that round. Stalked him...did nothing. Then got suckered on the bell...leaving the round in doubt...that was poor from Clottey as the stronger fighter.

[D-MAC]

10 - 8 Cotto
10- 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Cotto (big)
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 10 Even
10 - 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto

[ishy]

Clottey is now level on my card as we go into the championship rounds.

[McGrain]

Clottey might be doing very well on the aggression though.

But possibly, Cotto has just tied two rounds together. This fight could go either way at this stage.

[D-MAC]

i'm giving the 9th even. 86-85 cotto.

Edit: Mac, wtf :fire you are scoring this exactly the same as me!!

:deal

[McGrain]

watever happens reamtch rematch rematch got the makings of a classic series

Someone would get broke!

But maybe they could do it one more time...

[doug.ie]

those american commentators are shit....they are missing key happenings in the fight.

[TFFP]

I do think Clottey will have regrets if he doesn't get this. He coulda done more the last few rounds.

Cotto is in survival mode for the majority of the time, Clottey is stalking but not busy enough. Yet he looks like he could do 15.

[Mandanda]

Cotto up by two for me.

Steward on HBO is very harsh on Cotto.

[Broxi]

Shit, I'm watching a delayed stream, didn't realise the fight was in to the late rounds.

Now I've lost my stream ... arghhhhh .. fuck it.

[darwoody]

Mercante is having a wow of a fight

[GazOC]

Clotteys after another free point.

[TFFP]

Clottey has been watching too much Hopkins.

Clottey has been a cock in this last round.

[McGrain]

Clottey was out of line, bad news.

Great fight.

Cotto won 115-112.

[punchdrunkgench]

this refa a mans man suck it up and fight on

[gasman]

Clottey

[ishy]

Clotteys after another free point.

Clottey has been watching too much Hopkins.

Clottey has been a cock in this last round.

Agreed.

[D-MAC]

10 - 8 Cotto
10- 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Cotto (big)
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 9 Clottey
10 - 10 Even
10 - 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto
10 - 9 Cotto

[TheUzi]

Unbelievable...what a change of plan from Cotto-outstanding

[ishy]

I have it 115-113 for Cotto.

Never again question Miguel Cotto's heart!!!

[TFFP]

I didn't keep score but I feel like Cotto won extremely close.

Clottey was an idiot and gave it away, the fight was his to win. He was the stronger man for an age, and found ways to make rounds doubtful by not doing enough.

[doug.ie]

i have a feeling there could be a draw coming up.

not saying i agree with that

[Mandanda]

for me it's ''& still wbo welterweight champion of the world'' Clottey has annoyed me tonight.

Miguel deserves huge props for his performance tonight.

Great Fight

[GazOC]

this refa a mans man suck it up and fight on

Yep, its pro boxing FFS!!:good

[SouthpawSlayer]

didnt score it, but its close could go either way

[gasman]

Clear low blow from Cotto in last round and one to the back of the head - ref couldnt give a shit......homer...

[hitman_hatton1]

cotto did enough.

same old problems in the last 6 rds though.

on that form margo might well do him again. :patsch

clottey stood off and blew it in those last 3 rds. :bart

[darwoody]

Jab knockdown could be crucial

[Carnage]

115-112 Cotto, good fight that was, great heart by Cotto

[bored]

Well good fight, nearly enjoyed it as much as seeing bhop school the hypejob Pavlik.

Expect Cotto to get the decision but either way both fighters come out with better reputations, this is what boxing needs.

[GazOC]

Did Arum just give Clottey the nod that he'd won?

[gasman]

cotto will get it, but clottey won imo

[Broxi]

Sounds like a great fight. :fire

[hitman_hatton1]

for me it's ''& still wbo welterweight champion of the world'' Clottey has annoyed me tonight.

Miguel deserves huge props for his performance tonight.

Great Fight

i thought it was mixed.

looked electric early.

2nd half of the fight he was dog tired though.

margo will be licking his lips put it that way. :yep

[ishy]

116-111 Cotto
114-113 Clottey
115--112 Cotto

Cotto gets the SD :happy

[TFFP]

116-111 Cotto WTF

114-113 Clottey

115-112 Cotto

SD...not surprised, strange scoring.

[gasman]

told you

[McGrain]

Good decision IMO. That's about right. Could have gone the other way.

I enjoyed the fight very much.

[djoc175]

about right I'd say,though the actual scores were odd

[SouthpawSlayer]

that ref was great

[gasman]

Fuckin homer, I knew it, who gives a shit about a dude from Ghan that dont sell tickets.

[ScouseLad]

Split decision my arse, Cotto clearly won that. A knockdown, the 6th was so one sided it should of been a 10-8, 20 seconds here and then aint enough Joshua. Plus he's a horrible cheating gobshite.

[McGrain]

that ref was great

:good

[GazOC]

The ref had a blinder, its a rough and tumble sport, but if that was a Brit ref and Cotto was a Brit you know there'd be a stewards enquiry on here.....;)

[faisal]

Split decision my arse, Cotto clearly won that. A knockdown, the 6th was so one sided it should of been a 10-8, 20 seconds here and then aint enough Joshua. Plus he's a horrible cheating gobshite.
he took advantage over clotteys fucked leg

[SouthpawSlayer]

Split decision my arse, Cotto clearly won that. A knockdown, the 6th was so one sided it should of been a 10-8, 20 seconds here and then aint enough Joshua. Plus he's a horrible cheating gobshite.


great analysis lad

[ishy]

that ref was great

Spot on :good
The ref had a blinder, its a rough and tumble sport, but if that was a Brit ref and Cotto was a Brit you know there'd be a stewards enquiry on here.....;)

:lol: Our igloo-inhabiting friend would not have been happy.

[GazOC]

Split decision my arse, Cotto clearly won that. A knockdown, the 6th was so one sided it should of been a 10-8, 20 seconds here and then aint enough Joshua. Plus he's a horrible cheating gobshite.

You can also look at it that the judge that scored it for Clottey by 1 point scored the fight a damn sight better than the judge that scored it by 5 points to Cotto.;)

[McGrain]

Right. I'm off to pester the Mrs for sex.

But i'll be thinking of Cotto and Clottey.

[TFFP]

The ref had a blinder, its a rough and tumble sport, but if that was a Brit ref and Cotto was a Brit you know there'd be a stewards enquiry on here.....;)
:lol::good

There wasn't anything particularly illegal though. Clottey fell over. An accidental rabbit punch and a single low blow in the last round, what did people want, him to take a point straight away?

Cotto: "I will never clinch"

[ishy]

Load of shit been talked in the GF now :patsch.

[GazOC]

:lol: Our igloo-inhabiting friend would not have been happy.

Was it that obvious who I was referring to??:lol:;)

[Grievesy]

Great fight. Pretty close aswell. I had it 115-112 for Cotto.

[djoc175]

Would like to see the rematch

[ishy]

Was it that obvious who I was referring to??:lol:;)

:yep

What's with the semi-inspirational words from Andy at the end ? :lol:

[Broxi]

Right. I'm off to pester the Mrs for sex.

But i'll be thinking of Cotto and Clottey.

:lol:

[SouthpawSlayer]

Load of shit been talked in the GF now :patsch.

what the fuck is the story there, nearly a whole page of cotto hate

[D-MAC]

hatton - collazo:twisted:

But no Benitez - Palomino; you're shitting me.