kessler cant beat calzaghe

[Relentless]

why are people hyping up kessler??

kessler is slow and stiff, and calzaghe is fast and smooth.

joe is gonna make him his bitch, quote me on that.

[THN]

why are people hyping up kessler??

kessler is slow and stiff, and calzaghe is fast and smooth.

joe is gonna make him his bitch, quote me on that.:nut :nut :nut

[Korn_06]

I agree regarding Calzaghe, but Kessler is not slow and he is not stiff.

[Pimp C]

I think Calzaghe will win but Kessler isn't slow or stiff like you said. It will be a good fight and a tough one for Joe but in the end Joe will pull it off.

[yesihavearm]

I think what Relentless means by slow and stiff is that Kessler is very upright and very robotic. Its not the most fluid style granted, but not slow and stiff.

[Dojo]

why are people hyping up kessler??

kessler is slow and stiff, and calzaghe is fast and smooth.

joe is gonna make him his bitch, quote me on that.

I'm a fan of Joe, but I think Kess will be his best opponent to date by far. I always thought Lacy would lose as soon as he fought someone who could really box, but at this stage I'm going to lean towards Joe slightly. Kess is by no means slow BTW.

[Dojo]

Also when I say I'm a fan of Joe, I mean his skills, his resume is mainly unimpressive. A wasted talent IMO.

[hopkinsfan07]

your avatar is disturbing you sick son of a bitch:twisted:

agreed :good

[semichin]

why are people hyping up kessler??

kessler is slow and stiff, and calzaghe is fast and smooth.

joe is gonna make him his bitch, quote me on that.
You're half right, but Kessler is fast, and certainly not stiff:patsch

[Relentless]

:patsch


If he was robotic he would not have outboxed Andrade and Mundine

who?

[Imperial1]

I haven't seen much of Kesslers fight does he have a good enough jab to nuetralize Joe's speed ?

[WelshintheUS]

mundine is underated. kessler beat him in a close contest. calzage's chin is suspect. rick thornberry wobbled him in the 7th of their fight and rick isnt known as a puncher. kessler can punch. he can box, and is tough. is joe thinks he can win with his jab, he's in for a surprise. if it ends up a fight, joe gets ko'd.


Mundine is not underated
Calzaghe's chin is far from suspect
Joe will not be reliant upon his jab to win unlike Frankenkessler

[Decebal]

calzage's chin is suspect.

No, it isn't. It's as solid as houses.

[LeedsLad]

Calzaghe's best performances have always come against the best fighters, expect this to be no different. Calzaghe UD12, too good for Kessler.

[Sakura]

He can beat, but it's not easy work...Calzaghe is better than most people think.

[Dorfmeister]

why are people hyping up kessler??

kessler is slow and stiff, and calzaghe is fast and smooth.

joe is gonna make him his bitch, quote me on that.

Here is a quote I plainly agree with. Relentless or not as much, I sense that Kessler lost his sense of himself and both he and his backers came as close as they could to the Top. Maybe they did not have time or options to take stock of the situation seriously enough or maybe they went rightfully for the fight that (could) have opened doors... Giving due weight pro and contra, The Dan is unquestionably in his two hundred and forty seven steps of the spiral staircase of defeat and his own post facto rationalization... Should I be a Joe supporter, avid devotee to say this(?), not just about. Mikkel, a sullen young man of twenty something or thereabouts, is predictable as clockwork and is supposed to gather enough strength and commit himself to high workrate so that he goes willingly forward and can take over at a given moment as Joe feels the increase of weight of his punches until movement is impossible - Nothing could be so wrong, we heard it before in Lacy vs Calzaghe ( and other fights like Hoya Mayweather) but still people seem myopic and hard of hearing, Kessler's imagery is too fluid and his metre too inconstant so that Joe easily sets traps on him, sets off fireworks, catches him out and brings him in a spiral slowly downwords to Mother Earth - This is a good fight nonetheless, pitty is that they are not at the same level! Joe is definitely a gifted puncher-boxer and whose fast whirlwind assaults make him a favourite against B-Hop, JT or RJJ, no doubts about it! Kessler is just a very strong, commited and brave Super-Middle titlist...

[Toopretty]

kessler has nothing. I think he knows this b/c he is a very smart fighter...he will just try to go the 12. Calzaghe is too fast for him...he cant time calzaghe like he could other guys

[Toopretty]

Kessler also has horrible footwork..he squares up too much and he takes to long to get his feet set to punch..calzaghe will see anything he has coming a mile away.

[Astola]

If Calzaghe is superhuman its gonna be hard for Kessler to beat him.

But you know what? Calzaghe is a human being :scaredas: :admin :yikes
For some of you this might come as a surprise because you are blinded by the Lacy fight.

Kessler will counter Joe alot and try too keep him at a distance. Which fighter has done this when fighting Joe?

Kessler is a smart fighter and the bullshit arguments about soutpaws being superior to orthodox fighters are crap. Besides, Kessler is ambidextrous, intelligent, has power, speed, stamina - fuckin everything to create problems for Joe...


But some people just wont realise that speed isnt everything. There are numerous examples of that in boxing history. Face it.

[ron u.k.]

Calzaghe is gonna get severly hit trying to swarm or slap Kessler . He will taste Kessler`s jab and a straight right too much.Calzaghe will simply not leave his seat for round 9. That is if he has brains left. If not we will all enjoy seeing Calzaghe fumbling round on the canves trying to figure out where he is and what happend to him, unable to stand up.he couldn't do that to andrade and mundine so you reckon he can do that to calzaghe?

[Astola]

Here is a quote I plainly agree with. Relentless or not as much, I sense that Kessler lost his sense of himself and both he and his backers came as close as they could to the Top. Maybe they did not have time or options to take stock of the situation seriously enough or maybe they went rightfully for the fight that (could) have opened doors... Giving due weight pro and contra, The Dan is unquestionably in his two hundred and forty seven steps of the spiral staircase of defeat and his own post facto rationalization... Should I be a Joe supporter, avid devotee to say this(?), not just about. Mikkel, a sullen young man of twenty something or thereabouts, is predictable as clockwork and is supposed to gather enough strength and commit himself to high workrate so that he goes willingly forward and can take over at a given moment as Joe feels the increase of weight of his punches until movement is impossible - Nothing could be so wrong, we heard it before in Lacy vs Calzaghe ( and other fights like Hoya Mayweather) but still people seem myopic and hard of hearing, Kessler's imagery is too fluid and his metre too inconstant so that Joe easily sets traps on him, sets off fireworks, catches him out and brings him in a spiral slowly downwords to Mother Earth - This is a good fight nonetheless, pitty is that they are not at the same level! Joe is definitely a gifted puncher-boxer and whose fast whirlwind assaults make him a favourite against B-Hop, JT or RJJ, no doubts about it! Kessler is just a very strong, commited and brave Super-Middle titlist...


I like your style dude, but the highlighted sentence is excactly how most Calzaghe lovers see this fight.

It will be totallty and utterly different to the Lacy fight. Why wont you realize? Calzaghe will be the one pushing and pressing to get in while Kessler will be controlling things..

[Toopretty]

If Calzaghe is superhuman its gonna be hard for Kessler to beat him.

But you know what? Calzaghe is a human being :scaredas: :admin :yikes
For some of you this might come as a surprise because you are blinded by the Lacy fight.

Kessler will counter Joe alot and try too keep him at a distance. Which fighter has done this when fighting Joe?

Kessler is a smart fighter and the bullshit arguments about soutpaws being superior to orthodox fighters are crap. Besides, Kessler is ambidextrous, intelligent, has power, speed, stamina - fuckin everything to create problems for Joe...


But some people just wont realise that speed isnt everything. There are numerous examples of that in boxing history. Face it.

Kessler does not have speed..he has good timing but he takes to long to plant his feet for his shots..I can see him move around and then get set..If I can see..Calzaghe can see it for sure...Kessler is a smart fighter and I think you will see calzaghe catching him with his right hook and the str8 left to the body that kessler has no defense for ...Kessler squares up way to much to beat joe...I cant see it.

[Astola]

Kessler does not have speed..he has good timing but he takes to long to plant his feet for his shots..I can see him move around and then get set..If I can see..Calzaghe can see it for sure...Kessler is a smart fighter and I think you will see calzaghe catching him with his right hook and the str8 left to the body that kessler has no defense for ...Kessler squares up way to much to beat joe...I cant see it.


Well I must say that I see your point. There are many ways for Joe to win the fight. But why people wont recegnize that Kessler has if not the same chances is beyond me...

Calzaghe IS faster than Kessler. But hes not Flash Gordon of the division. Mundine is.

Calzaghes pressure is the real trademark as I see it and his ability to infight, brawl, grab dudes by the neck etc. Along with his overall unorthodox, weird style and extreme stamina.

[Toopretty]

Well I must say that I see your point. There are many ways for Joe to win the fight. But why people wont recegnize that Kessler has if not the same chances is beyond me...

Calzaghe IS faster than Kessler. But hes not Flash Gordon of the division. Mundine is.

Calzaghes pressure is the real trademark as I see it and his ability to infight, brawl, grab dudes by the neck etc. Along with his overall unorthodox, weird style and extreme stamina.

His main thing is his weird style that nobody fights like..he throws arm punches and the way he punches I surpised he doesnt break his wrist every fight.. He bounces in and out and keeps his hands moving. He is a hard target. But we will see what can be done...I hope Kessler knocks him out to shut up amsterdam and china hand...just for kicks..I would love to rub that in there faces for months..:good

[Astola]

His main thing is his weird style that nobody fights like..he throws arm punches and the way he punches I surpised he doesnt break his wrist every fight.. He bounces in and out and keeps his hands moving. He is a hard target. But we will see what can be done...I hope Kessler knocks him out to shut up amsterdam and china hand...just for kicks..I would love to rub that in there faces for months..:good

I hope so too. It would be good for the future of 168.

[Dorfmeister]

I like your style dude, but the highlighted sentence is excactly how most Calzaghe lovers see this fight.

It will be totallty and utterly different to the Lacy fight. Why wont you realize? Calzaghe will be the one pushing and pressing to get in while Kessler will be controlling things..

Astola, I appreciate your words, the Calzaghe backers may love him going willingly forward in so heightened an emotional condition, and simply dematerializes the Dan's but experienced Joe is supposed to taylor his behaviour to the requirement at hand which is nothing less than that yellow brick lane to the New York Stadium and the american stars... I'll give ya the benefit of the doubt, Astola, but I doubt Joe comes in blazing with righteous rage, he will have an unrelaxed look of a fortress preparing for the inevitable assault, reluctant to approach but will be tracing a series of rhomboids, ovals, ellipses with both fast hands and feet while Mikkel will be with his mind blank, on the persue like is dragging a ball and chains across the floor, things are closing in on it, allakazoo, allakazam!

[dumdane]

your avatar is disturbing you sick son of a bitch:twisted:

Yeah - but since it's supposedly portraying Blocky, it's warranted.

[Astola]

Astola, I appreciate your words, the Calzaghe backers may love him going willingly forward in so heightened an emotional condition, and simply dematerializes the Dan's but experienced Joe is supposed to taylor his behaviour to the requirement at hand which is nothing less than that yellow brick lane to the New York Stadium and the american stars... I'll give ya the benefit of the doubt, Astola, but I doubt Joe comes in blazing with righteous rage, he will have an unrelaxed look of a fortress preparing for the inevitable assault, reluctant to approach but will be tracing a series of rhomboids, ovals, ellipses with both fast hands and feet while Mikkel will be with his mind blank, on the persue like is dragging a ball and chains across the floor, things are closing in on it, allakazoo, allakazam!

This is the absolutely best, non biased, well written prediction Ive seen so far:good

I might change my mind because of it.

:D

[Imperial1]

Please, explain to me how "a good enough jab" is going to do shit against a southpaw with a high lead right hand, faster feet and faster hands than Kessler?

Kessler is going to be beaten up - like I've been saying since March this year.

?:good

A jab is used to offset a fighter’s rhythm..Regardless if your hands are fast if there is a constant jab in your face it forces a fighter to think defense before offense 1st ...Best example of that that comes to mind was Forrest Mosley 1..

I am riding w/Calzaghe all day but I'd like to know what intangibles Kessler brings by some of his fans or those whom have seen more of his fights ...Aight fam

[jyuza]

Shall we make another gay avatar bet ?

[Axe]

Kessler is a bit robotic but Calzaghe is up there in years now, and has always been a sucker for the right hand. It will be a close fight.

[Astola]

Kessler is a bit robotic but Calzaghe is up there in years now, and has always been a sucker for the right hand. It will be a close fight.


Jeez its nice to finally hear just some sense in the almost endless (3.nov were done) discussions.

It will be a FOTY - I have no doubt in my mind. Kessler is my pick.

[Amsterdam]

Jeez its nice to finally hear just some sense in the almost endless (3.nov were done) discussions.

It will be a FOTY - I have no doubt in my mind. Kessler is my pick.

It's going to be a one sided beatdown, not a FOTY.:yep

However, whoever wins, with idiot boxing fans, it would make both look better to have a FOTY. Even though a one sided thrashing from either is MUCH MORE impressive, obviously.

I hate boxing fans.

[yesihavearm]

wtf at your avatar KORN. Seriously man...:/

[Astola]

It's going to be a one sided beatdown, not a FOTY.:yep

However, whoever wins, with idiot boxing fans, it would make both look better to have a FOTY. Even though a one sided thrashing from either is MUCH MORE impressive, obviously.

I hate boxing fans.


I hate hiphop.

Nonetheless - how on earth are we going to continue this debate untill 3/11?? I mean. Ive said the same things since march or so and nobody cares to listen...:huh :yep

BTW if this "Joe is a God" thing that's been created keeps on coming to the bookies, then I seriously suggest you to bet some of the money on MK....

Its ridicoulos - they started out having Kessler as the winner and now hes becoming a huge underdog. Am I insane or is it just the rest of you? :lol:

[Amsterdam]

I hate hiphop.

Nonetheless - how on earth are we going to continue this debate untill 3/11?? I mean. Ive said the same things since march or so and nobody cares to listen...:huh :yep

BTW if this "Joe is a God" thing that's been created keeps on coming to the bookies, then I seriously suggest you to bet some of the money on MK....

Its ridicoulos - they started out having Kessler as the winner and now hes becoming a huge underdog. Am I insane or is it just the rest of you? :lol:

Do you doubt Calzaghe?

By the way mate, most Calzaghe fans are eccentric.

[Decebal]

Do you doubt Calzaghe?

By the way mate, most Calzaghe fans are eccentric.

Calzaghe, Kessler AND Bute fans aren't!:nono

[Snorkel]

Kessler is a bit robotic but Calzaghe is up there in years now, and has always been a sucker for the right hand. It will be a close fight.

He's a sucker for the lead right hand, not the jab-right combo that's Kessler's speciality.

[Relentless]

Shall we make another gay avatar bet ?

nah im saving that for mosley vs cotto.

[Astola]

Do you doubt Calzaghe?

By the way mate, most Calzaghe fans are eccentric.


Oh this is interesting. I guess well have to make the debate more religious from now on. "Do you doubt Calzaghe?" is perhaps the most significant post from you in a while.

No, I dont doubt him. But I judge him from a scientific point of view - not a religious one.

Calzaghe is a fine boxer - I admire his skills. But the Joe believers has gotten so cocky that it doesnt make an sense at all.

BTW - eccentric is the word. And religious.

[Decebal]

Oh this is interesting. I guess well have to make the debate more religious from now on. "Do you doubt Calzaghe?" is perhaps the most significant post from you in a while.

No, I dont doubt him. But I judge him from a scientific point of view - not a religious one.

Calzaghe is a fine boxer - I admire his skills. But the Joe believers has gotten so cocky that it doesnt make an sense at all.

BTW - eccentric is the word. And religious.

:lol: :good

[China_hand_Joe]

Religious?

No.

Philosophical.

[Relentless]

The ring`s magazine number 3 and 5

is he promoted by don king?

[Amsterdam]

Oh this is interesting. I guess well have to make the debate more religious from now on. "Do you doubt Calzaghe?" is perhaps the most significant post from you in a while.

No, I dont doubt him. But I judge him from a scientific point of view - not a religious one.

Calzaghe is a fine boxer - I admire his skills. But the Joe believers has gotten so cocky that it doesnt make an sense at all.

BTW - eccentric is the word. And religious.

It's because our enemies are not Kessler fans, but Taylor apologists and people who rank circle jerkers as top P4P fighters.:good

[Astola]

Religious?

No.

Philosophical.

Doubts are plenty in philosophy.

I rarely see one doubting calzaghe fan.


U are in the concluding and believing business my friend. its fun - but not philosophy.

[China_hand_Joe]

Doubts are plenty in philosophy.

I rarely see one doubting calzaghe fan.


U are in the concluding and believing business my friend. its fun - but not philosophy.

I've been picking Kessler for months mate.

[Decebal]

Doubts are plenty in philosophy.

I rarely see one doubting calzaghe fan.


U are in the concluding and believing business my friend. its fun - but not philosophy.

I am a doubting Calzaghe, Kessler and Bute fan. I can see Calzaghe beating Kessler, Kessler beating Bute and Bute beating Calzaghe...but I can also see Kessler beating both Calzaghe and Bute. I cannot see Bute beating both Calzaghe and Kessler, however.

[Amsterdam]

I've been picking Kessler for months mate.

Your 100% prediction ratio is on the line.

[Toopretty]

It's because our enemies are not Kessler fans, but Taylor apologists and people who rank circle jerkers as top P4P fighters.:good '


That circle jerker still did more then your guy..man I loathe you....Eccentric is kind of like Prince used to be or Rick James... and damned for sure...Calzaghe fans are on that platform of thinking...I do not doubt that you have a hand made Calzaghe photo print T-shirt...and maybe stalked him a few times and hung around his gym...:blood

[Astola]

It's because our enemies are not Kessler fans, but Taylor apologists and people who rank circle jerkers as top P4P fighters.:good


Indeed.

But you dont have to be a fan of either Kessler or Calzaghe to see that we have two boxing phenomenen fighting each other.

I am not as hard on Taylor as you. He's fought bad ass guys and come out of it pretty wel. You NEED Talent in order to do so. Another thing is that JT had HBO AND talent. I despise that as well.

[Amsterdam]

'


That circle jerker still did more then your guy..man I loathe you....Eccentric is kind of like Prince used to be or Rick James... and damned for sure...Calzaghe fans are on that platform of thinking...I do not doubt that you have a hand made Calzaghe photo print T-shirt...and maybe stalked him a few times and hung around his gym...:blood

Incorrect on all counts in this post.

[Amsterdam]

Indeed.

But you dont have to be a fan of either Kessler or Calzaghe to see that we have two boxing phenomenen fighting each other.

I am not as hard on Taylor as you. He's fought bad ass guys and come out of it pretty wel. You NEED Talent in order to do so. Another thing is that JT had HBO AND talent. I despise that as well.

Yes my friend, but we deal with jokers who think Wright-Hopkins was more significant than JC-MK.

I find such insulting.

[Astola]

I've been picking Kessler for months mate.

I noticed - but seriously thought it was a joke.

I mean - look at your posts, profile and everything. Are you dead serious?

[Toopretty]

Incorrect on all counts in this post.

I dont care..so what JT is going to probably get knocked out by pavlik..he still was a decent middleweight champ no matter what your ECCENTRIC butt says.

[Toopretty]

Yes my friend, but we deal with jokers who think Wright-Hopkins was more significant than JC-MK.

I find such insulting.

Well the boxing world is against you..Winky and Bhop are established future hall of fame guys that will always be regarded Higher the Joey....no matter what your crazy butt thinks.

[China_hand_Joe]

I noticed - but seriously thought it was a joke.

I mean - look at your posts, profile and everything. Are you dead serious?You just don't beat a beast like Kessler at 35, if you do you are quite simply the GOAT by a mile.

[Astola]

Yes my friend, but we deal with jokers who think Wright-Hopkins was more significant than JC-MK.

I find such insulting.

That is just laughable - Wright Vs Hopkins totally slipped my attention and it was as boring and insignificant as I thought.

It is insulting - and it is also fucking moronic:deal :fire :fire :fire

:D

[Astola]

You just don't beat a beast like Kessler at 35, if you do you are quite simply the GOAT by a mile.


:lol: :lol:

Youre not, I guess.

Picking Kessler to make Joe look good.

[Astola]

Well the boxing world is against you..Winky and Bhop are established future hall of fame guys that will always be regarded Higher the Joey....no matter what your crazy butt thinks.


Listen dude - Hopkins is an ATG and Winky is a damn good defensive fighter.

But what was the significance of the fight. Did it have a place in history? Where the fighters prime?
No, No, No, No, No. It didnt mean shit, but money.

[Amsterdam]

That is just laughable - Wright Vs Hopkins totally slipped my attention and it was as boring and insignificant as I thought.

It is insulting - and it is also fucking moronic:deal :fire :fire :fire

:D

Precisely, I obviously want Calzaghe to beat Kessler, but if Kessler wins, believe me on how I will congratulate him and give him the necessary recognition(I already rate him as one of the best fighters in the world), but he'd have knocked off an aging, but true P4P force.

All of the moronic ends talk about resume, resume, resume - while failing to correctly assess a resume, resume means a whole lot, but also reading what the resume really means.

Kessler's resume is quite good, enough to be ranked P4P, because of how he has dealt with his opposition, which was been very good.

You just have to ask yourself, do you think getting controversial decisions over aging P4P names is superior to absolutely destroying younger, underrated fighters.

I can't see a guy like Taylor or Wright beating Mundine for example, or Andrade for that matter. Kessler's results were 116-112 Mundine and 120-108 Andrade, Taylor would lose to both, as would Wright.

[Amsterdam]

:lol: :lol:

Youre not, I guess.

Picking Kessler to make Joe look good.

He'll go to great lengths to prove his points, even if it means killing his astonishing prediction ratio of 100% on target predictions.:yep

Have to love CHJ.

[Astola]

Precisely, I obviously want Calzaghe to beat Kessler, but if Kessler wins, believe me on how I will congratulate him and give him the necessary recognition(I already rate him as one of the best fighters in the world), but he'd have knocked off an aging, but true P4P force.

All of the moronic ends talk about resume, resume, resume - while failing to correctly assess a resume, resume means a whole lot, but also reading what the resume really means.

Kessler's resume is quite good, enough to be ranked P4P, because of how he has dealt with his opposition, which was been very good.

You just have to ask yourself, do you think getting controversial decisions over aging P4P names is superior to absolutely destroying younger, underrated fighters.

I can't see a guy like Taylor or Wright beating Mundine for example, or Andrade for that matter. Kessler's results were 116-112 Mundine and 120-108 Andrade, Taylor would lose to both, as would Wright.

Spot on and bulls eye.

Truth.

:good

[China_hand_Joe]

:lol: :lol:

Youre not, I guess.

Picking Kessler to make Joe look good.

I'll get the betting slips when I stake some cash on it.

The year of Calzaghe propaganda was just to get me the odds mate.

[Decebal]

I'll get the betting slips when I stake some cash on it.

The year of Calzaghe propaganda was just to get me the odds mate.

You've fooled the bookies, but not the Ring - they are still holding out...when do you expect them to crack?

[Astola]

You've fooled the bookies, but not the Ring - they are still holding out...when do you expect them to crack?


:lol: :lol:

CHJ is the God of Boxing fans.

[Amsterdam]

That's alright , Hopkins and Wright have already proved themselves ! It's about time Fraudzaghe is the 1 in a big fight !:good

Wright above 154 does not have a fantastic record.

MD over Mosely was his last at 154, Mosely is a WW, albeit a great one.

Trinidad wipe out, but if you think Trinidad is a true 160 pounder like Arthur Abraham per say...

Very close fight with Sam Soliman.

Draw with Taylor.

Quartey, again, he takes a smaller man for a tune up and not a real MW, for a reason, Wright is a 154 pounder.

Then a jump to 170. What has he done to prove that he'd handle 170 well with these results?

Nothing. It was a worthless fight, a money fight with no substance.

What has he done here to

[DanePugilist]

This will be a great fight, quite possibly FOTY material. And why? Because both are elites, and both have very interesting styles that will clash.

Taylor, Hopkins, Pavlik, Dawson, Wright would be slaughtered by both, and you can quote me on that when they will meet these guys.

[Alo2006]

why are people hyping up kessler??

kessler is slow and stiff, and calzaghe is fast and smooth.

joe is gonna make him his bitch, quote me on that.


How bout we wait until the fight to see :bbb

[Korn_06]

Your avatar is disturbing and sickening you son of a bitch!:twisted:

Sorry - are you a vegetarian?

and

No it is not a picture of my mother.

Anyway this is a picture from real life, and people there doesn't find it sickening - they find it tastefull and as the word goes it should be very good to optimize you sexual performance - maybe you should reconsider.

Anyway it was ment as a joke and a slap in the face for some posters and it should be only temporary.

But if this is giving you a mental breakdown do I will change it of course.

Should I call you a SOB now?

[DanePugilist]

Sorry - are you a vegetarian?

and

No it is not a picture of my mother.

Anyway this is a picture from real life, and people there doesn't find it sickening - they find it tastefull and as the word goes it should be very good to optimize you sexual performance - maybe you should reconsider.

Anyway it was ment as a joke and a slap in the face for some posters and it should be only temporary.

But if this is giving you a mental breakdown do I will change it of course.

Should I call you a SOB now?Some peoples intellect cannot comprehend such matters. Its like when some bands sing about Joseph Mengele or Nazis, they label them as such, instead of contemplating as to why; namely to show the world what is going on(or has been).

[Lacyace]

It's not even worth trying to talk logic to these guys- my advice? Get your kicks in, kick dirt in their face and rub the shit in - knowing that when Calzaghe dominates this "good" fighter, that they're going to vanish for good.

That was a great post.

[heidegger]

Pfffft. I love when people get so confident in their boxers and start saying shit like this, especially when the reality is thir boxer is going to get the shit slapped out of them. Its hillarious how much you guys pimp up this guys 'talent' on the basis of his win over lacy. That guy cant box, is ring dumb, and JC whipped him. Wow. Good effort. Anybody who thinks that Kessler is going to be bamboosled and optionless against those 'skills' is seriously misguided. Kessler had no trouble picking off Mundine who has at least as good speed and skills as JC. beyer has a decent skill set too in fact (schooled danny green). Kessler will roughhous JC and win a decision or maybe knock him out. lol lol lol lol Youre analysis that JC will be too 'slick' for kessler is the most illconcieved thing ive heard. Cant wait to check into this thread post fight to hear your excuses. Out of this fight will come a man and a boy. And guess who the boy will be??? Calfaggy might even get hurt more than Beyer did. The Welsh. Pfffffft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[heidegger]

There is nothing to be said for this series of paragraphs except "This is utter fucking bollocks"

Calzaghe has been around long before the Lacy fight - you may have noticed that many of us were saying similar things then about Lacy's chances and that Joe was severely underrated. Like the fucking sunrise, predictably all the comments have come back.

"Bullshit arguments about southpaws being superior to orthodox" - no, there is no argument there, the argument is that the southpaw fighter creates unnatural problems for the orthodox jabber, always has, always will

The fact that you guys overlook this fact is only because you don't know boxing - you may be a fan of boxing, but you don't KNOW boxing.

Kessler is ambidexterous, has power, speed, stamina? Why then can't Kessler throw more than four or five hooks in a fight? Why does he struggle throwing anything that isn't a left jab or a right straight cross? Why doesn't he work to the body? Why does he tire/fade down the stretch? Why if he has power, hasn't he knocked out the real competitors he's faced..

Joe has style, speed, footwork, experience and adaption in his favour. Their power is so evenly matched that it isn't funny, with Joe getting stoppages against better fighters than Kessler has stopped

The ONLY way Kessler creates problems for Joe is if he miraculously finds a tight right hook overnight.

"What boxer has kept Joe on the outside before?" - None - Why? Because Joe primarly has been an OUTSIDE BOXER - this is what makes me laugh, you think Joe can only fight on the inside? Fuck me, go take a look at the Eubank fight where he boxed him from the outside for near the entire fight - please, grow a fucking brain.

Kessler is up against it here, Joe has all the neccessarily tools to beat an orthodox jabbing fighter - Kessler doesn't have the tools to beat Joe - it will come down to whether or not he gets lucky with a punch on the night, even then - I doubt he has the power to put Joe away.




Again, nothing but utter rubbish here.

Joe is not a pressure fighter, he never has been and he never will be - yes, he has a tendancy to swarm his fighters, throw flurries - what you're forgetting is the work he does before coming in and the work he does after coming in.

Namely - the timing and composure to slip punches on the way in and the ability to bounce back out again after he's fired his punches - he doesn't sit in the pocket, he's NOT an inside fighter.

So Kessler is going to control Joe because Joe will ALWAYS be coming forward? Fuck me - have you seen ANY Calzaghe fight? He ONLY comes forward on the back of a mistake from his opponent, watch him against Manfredo, he fought cautiously from the outside until he caught Manfredo's mistake, then he swarms in and fires combinations.



Uhhm, since when did Mundine have faster handspeed than Joe Calzaghe? Calzaghe is being compared with Roy Jones Jr by some people for fucks sake - name me the time you saw Mundine land a 5-6 hit combination on a BUM let alone a challenger.

Again with the idiocy about Calzaghe being a pressure fighter - Calzaghe is NOT an infighter, Calzaghe uses his timing, countering and ability to capitalise on an opponents mistakes to get on the inside and blast away - but you never see him coming forward, head down, trying to get into the chest of his opponent - THAT's a pressure fighter - you're calling Calzaghe a pressure fighter? Fuck off



Watch Winky Wright or any other southpaw for that matter against a jabbing fighter - watch him against Taylor for instance, what were Taylor's two money punches aganist Wright? The left hook to the body and the right cross.

Watch Hopkins, the southpaw killer - what is his money punch? The straight right hand.

Kessler doesn't have a good straight right hand UNLESS it's following jabs - Calzaghe has never had issue with the jab, his stance and high lead hand takes it away from fighters, that with the fact that he has the faster feet and faster hands means jabbing him is fucking stupid.

Kessler will attempt the jab, get slipped and find either a counter lead hook or a straight left hand waiting for him, don't you worry.




Joe is no more of a sucker for the right hand than any southpaw, it's a pipeline punch - however, if Eubank - one of the best overhand rights in the business - couldn't land on green Calzaghe, what makes you think Kessler, with no where near the lead right, is going too?


I'm sick of debating this bullshit

On one side of the fence, you have Kessler fans attempting to create a strawman argument about Kesslers abilities - none of which he's displayed in the ring and none of which anyone has any reason to suspect he has

It's not even worth trying to talk logic to these guys- my advice? Get your kicks in, kick dirt in their face and rub the shit in - knowing that when Calzaghe dominates this "good" fighter, that they're going to vanish for good.

Keep talking. Keep talking. :good

who the fuck compares calfaggy with RJJ? nutthuggers like you? Isnt he more like the SM version of sugar ray robinson? Ive heard it said that his jockstrap smells like roses?

btw, Mundine is often compared with RJJ for speed and not just that style and execution too. The fact that you think JC is faster than Mundine reveals the impressive reach of your delusion. Mundine would beat Calzaghe!! JC'l probably have to resort to fighting him too after Kessler savages him. All I can say is bring on fightday to explode this ridiculous hype about Cafaggys invoilable speed and skill. Theres nothing more entertaining than witnessing fools having their delusions shattered. Calfaggy will be one of them. Kessler gonna go viking on this little girl. :patsch :deal :smoke :good

[heidegger]

Mundine doesn't have anywhere near the skillset of Joe Calzaghe

Mundine is faster and throws better combinations than Joe. Less power.

Mundine got hit, he got timid

Exactly what will happen to calfaggy.

You hit Joe Calzaghe - what does he do? He hits you back, harder - ask Mitchell about that one sometime.

And what does klessler do when he gets hit> Hide in the corner like a little bitch? Maybe ask beyer.

[Dantes]

There is nothing to be said for this series of paragraphs except "This is utter fucking bollocks"

Calzaghe has been around long before the Lacy fight - you may have noticed that many of us were saying similar things then about Lacy's chances and that Joe was severely underrated. Like the fucking sunrise, predictably all the comments have come back.

"Bullshit arguments about southpaws being superior to orthodox" - no, there is no argument there, the argument is that the southpaw fighter creates unnatural problems for the orthodox jabber, always has, always will

The fact that you guys overlook this fact is only because you don't know boxing - you may be a fan of boxing, but you don't KNOW boxing.

Kessler is ambidexterous, has power, speed, stamina? Why then can't Kessler throw more than four or five hooks in a fight? Why does he struggle throwing anything that isn't a left jab or a right straight cross? Why doesn't he work to the body? Why does he tire/fade down the stretch? Why if he has power, hasn't he knocked out the real competitors he's faced..

Joe has style, speed, footwork, experience and adaption in his favour. Their power is so evenly matched that it isn't funny, with Joe getting stoppages against better fighters than Kessler has stopped

The ONLY way Kessler creates problems for Joe is if he miraculously finds a tight right hook overnight.

"What boxer has kept Joe on the outside before?" - None - Why? Because Joe primarly has been an OUTSIDE BOXER - this is what makes me laugh, you think Joe can only fight on the inside? Fuck me, go take a look at the Eubank fight where he boxed him from the outside for near the entire fight - please, grow a fucking brain.

Kessler is up against it here, Joe has all the neccessarily tools to beat an orthodox jabbing fighter - Kessler doesn't have the tools to beat Joe - it will come down to whether or not he gets lucky with a punch on the night, even then - I doubt he has the power to put Joe away.




Again, nothing but utter rubbish here.

Joe is not a pressure fighter, he never has been and he never will be - yes, he has a tendancy to swarm his fighters, throw flurries - what you're forgetting is the work he does before coming in and the work he does after coming in.

Namely - the timing and composure to slip punches on the way in and the ability to bounce back out again after he's fired his punches - he doesn't sit in the pocket, he's NOT an inside fighter.

So Kessler is going to control Joe because Joe will ALWAYS be coming forward? Fuck me - have you seen ANY Calzaghe fight? He ONLY comes forward on the back of a mistake from his opponent, watch him against Manfredo, he fought cautiously from the outside until he caught Manfredo's mistake, then he swarms in and fires combinations.



Uhhm, since when did Mundine have faster handspeed than Joe Calzaghe? Calzaghe is being compared with Roy Jones Jr by some people for fucks sake - name me the time you saw Mundine land a 5-6 hit combination on a BUM let alone a challenger.

Again with the idiocy about Calzaghe being a pressure fighter - Calzaghe is NOT an infighter, Calzaghe uses his timing, countering and ability to capitalise on an opponents mistakes to get on the inside and blast away - but you never see him coming forward, head down, trying to get into the chest of his opponent - THAT's a pressure fighter - you're calling Calzaghe a pressure fighter? Fuck off



Watch Winky Wright or any other southpaw for that matter against a jabbing fighter - watch him against Taylor for instance, what were Taylor's two money punches aganist Wright? The left hook to the body and the right cross.

Watch Hopkins, the southpaw killer - what is his money punch? The straight right hand.

Kessler doesn't have a good straight right hand UNLESS it's following jabs - Calzaghe has never had issue with the jab, his stance and high lead hand takes it away from fighters, that with the fact that he has the faster feet and faster hands means jabbing him is fucking stupid.

Kessler will attempt the jab, get slipped and find either a counter lead hook or a straight left hand waiting for him, don't you worry.




Joe is no more of a sucker for the right hand than any southpaw, it's a pipeline punch - however, if Eubank - one of the best overhand rights in the business - couldn't land on green Calzaghe, what makes you think Kessler, with no where near the lead right, is going too?


I'm sick of debating this bullshit

On one side of the fence, you have Kessler fans attempting to create a strawman argument about Kesslers abilities - none of which he's displayed in the ring and none of which anyone has any reason to suspect he has

It's not even worth trying to talk logic to these guys- my advice? Get your kicks in, kick dirt in their face and rub the shit in - knowing that when Calzaghe dominates this "good" fighter, that they're going to vanish for good.


Kessler UD.

[DanePugilist]

Kessler KO'ed Julio Cesar Green in 1st round. A man who beat William Joppy once and lost two. A guy that some consider to be Hopkins best win - even Taylor had to UD him.(He just beat him way before Hopkins did).

Win or lose to JC, Kessler is the real deal, and alot of boxers will/shall fear him in the future. I predict P4P top 3 within a few years(non-biased one). Possibly ATG. You heard it here first.

[jyuza]

nah im saving that for mosley vs cotto.

I thought you were a true man... I was wrong.

[THN]

Blocky i'm Danish nutcake and my money is on Kessler, why?
maybe i'm stupid, but Kessler is confident about this fight so am I,
look at Calzaghe senior or junior they scracth themselves all over when they hear the name Kessler, they know he's the real deal.
Kessler will surprise Calzaghe fans, but not Calzaghe he know what he's into.
He just hope for some miracle to happen!

[DanePugilist]

DanePug - I'd have more respect for you if your knowledge wasn't straight from Boxrec.

Other dipshits - Comparing Mundine's skillset, speed and power to Calzaghe is completely pointless - Mundine is not Calzaghe, never will be anywhere near as good as him, while he represents the best career win on Kesslers career - he will fade away into obscurity within the next two to three years, having achieved practically nothing in the process.Sorry, had to use Boxrec to prove such a point, since I can't memorize all fights that has taken place, even if I like many of them. I guess you never use it.

However, my assesments analysis is my own, as is yours. However, as we all know yours is heavily flawed and very incomplete. I have provided you with a source to whole fights of Kessler, and yet you fail to analyse anything prober. I don't know if you just chose to take a negative stand or if you are just blind. I chose to see it as you have only seen climpses of Kessler, because thats the only excuse I can come up with for your incompleteness.

We have tried to help you for many months now, but you are like a small kid that doesn't want to learn how to walk. You will be able to, when your eyes aren't wide shut. Till then - enjoy.

[Max Molyneux]

He's a sucker for the lead right hand, not the jab-right combo that's Kessler's speciality.

True.

When Bika got rights In they were single shots and Kessler doesn't throw single rights, he throws them In combinations.

This fight will be better than Mayweather Vs Hatton although Calzaghe and FLoyd will win one sided fights.:D

[Decebal]

Mundine is faster and throws better combinations than Joe. Less power.



Exactly what will happen to calfaggy.



And what does klessler do when he gets hit> Hide in the corner like a little bitch? Maybe ask beyer.

How can someone who wants to pretend to be a fan of MH be so inauthentic?:-(

[China_hand_Joe]

Kessler KO'ed Julio Cesar Green in 1st round. A man who beat William Joppy once and lost two. A guy that some consider to be Hopkins best win - even Taylor had to UD him.(He just beat him way before Hopkins did).


What has Hopkins having an even worse resume than Calzaghe's got to do with this?

[DanePugilist]

What has Hopkins having an even worse resume than Calzaghe's got to do with this?It was merely an open invitation to you, so you can establish that JC has been cheated as a top 3 p4p'er.

The second fly smashed with one rock is: The winner of this fight should replace Floyd as top dog.

[China_hand_Joe]

Calzaghe was P4P number one from 2000-2006, I think he is dropping regardless of whether he beats Kessler. The rest of the world might rank him higher than me soon.

[Fat Tony]

Calzaghe was P4P number one from 2000-2006, I think he is dropping regardless of whether he beats Kessler. The rest of the world might rank him higher than me soon.

:lol:

And before 2000? You said we can add RJJ and James Tony and others to his achievement list (he would have beaten them, no doubt), so it's clear we can consider him p4p #1 since his first pro fight in 1993.

[China_hand_Joe]

:lol:

And before 2000? You said we can add RJJ and James Tony and others to his achievement list (he would have beaten them, no doubt), so it's clear we can consider him p4p #1 since his first pro fight in 1993.
No, Calzaghe was still a relatively green fighter until after his 1999 fight with the rough-housing prime Robin Reid.

It is clear he was top ten, maybe five when he beat Eubanks though. Not number one that early though. I am a 100% objective fan/expert of boxing.

[DanePugilist]

Calzaghe was P4P number one from 2000-2006, I think he is dropping regardless of whether he beats Kessler. The rest of the world might rank him higher than me soon.When you are at the top, there is only one place to go. However, since alot of people are desynched with real-time, he will remain no. 1 for 6 more years.

[DanePugilist]

No, Calzaghe was still a relatively green fighter until after his 1999 fight with the rough-housing prime Robin Reid.

It is clear he was top ten, maybe five when he beat Eubanks though. Not number one that early though. I am a 100% objective fan/expert of boxing.I think you made a typo, since you are in sync with JC, the correct percentage should be 110%. Perhaps you aren't motivated atm?

[China_hand_Joe]

I think you made a typo, since you are in sync with JC, the correct percentage should be 110%. Perhaps you aren't motivated atm?

No, reminds me of an incident though...


Coach: I need 110% from you China, can you do that?

CHJ: No. That is illogical mate.

Coach: 100% then, you know what I mean.

CHJ: No. That would be foolish

Coach looks puzzled

CHJ: For starters 100% is an unrealistic target, given the nature of the human mind.

Secondly only a fool would want to give that much. I'd be better off pacing myself don't you think? I'll give you an average of 70% effort mate.



That was my football career over aged 11.

[DanePugilist]

No, reminds me of an incident though...


Coach: I need 110% from you China, can you do that?

CHJ: No. That is illogical mate.

Coach: 100% then, you know what I mean.

CHJ: No. That would be foolish

Coach looks puzzled

CHJ: For starters 100% is an unrealistic target, given the nature of the human mind.

Secondly only a fool would want to give that much. I'd be better off pacing myself don't you think? I'll give you an average of 70% effort mate.



That was my football career over aged 11.Gold.:lol::lol::lol: - I wish I could depict the look on your coach's face after that retort. Maybe my imagination is only at 70%.

[dragosuhail]

both have great assets otherwise they wouldn't be where they are today.

i simply think kessler will win due to age difference. kessler is strong and has a good workrate and ring movement for every second over every round. joe is definately more varied in his skillset, but you can only keep the tempo up so long when your 35.

age is less of a factor as you go up to heavyweights but for a fighter like joe who relies on swarming aggression it will hurt him.

i feel joe has faced slightly better comp, but SLIGHTLY!

that is my opinion of course but the results are not in favour of calzaghe.

in his career joe has nearly lost to robin reid and some reckon he should have lost that fight or made it a draw at least.

he's been wobbled, stunned, and even dropped by a couple fighters. he's also appeared far more winded that kessler has in his fights. plus he's resorted to some rough tactics to force his will onto opponents.

kessler on the other hand has barely lost rounds to anyone. never been stunned or dropped for that matter and has more authority behind his punches. while he has a back problem i suspect calzaghe's hands will be more likely to break before kessler's back gives in. keesler is so naturally strong he makes it look easy. he never really does any rough house tactics, and never been in trouble.

having said all that this is a very good example of where styles makes fights. it might be a back and forth match, but i doubt that. i feel one fighter will have the right tools for the job and slowly wear the other one down. and either dominate him down the stretch or late round tko.

i win (and lose) either way as im a big fan of both equally. that's why i feel my assessments are pretty accurate cause i dont have any bias clouding my judgement.

kessler has never fought anyone like calzaghe. but the same can be said for joe. kessler is NOT a Veit, or Reid, or Mitchell, or Lacy... he is far superior to all those figthers and he will show this come fight night :thumbsup

[Max Molyneux]

I've been picking Kessler for months mate.

China lip lies!

[dumdane]

both have great assets otherwise they wouldn't be where they are today.

i simply think kessler will win due to age difference. kessler is strong and has a good workrate and ring movement for every second over every round. joe is definately more varied in his skillset, but you can only keep the tempo up so long when your 35.

age is less of a factor as you go up to heavyweights but for a fighter like joe who relies on swarming aggression it will hurt him.

i feel joe has faced slightly better comp, but SLIGHTLY!

that is my opinion of course but the results are not in favour of calzaghe.

in his career joe has nearly lost to robin reid and some reckon he should have lost that fight or made it a draw at least.

he's been wobbled, stunned, and even dropped by a couple fighters. he's also appeared far more winded that kessler has in his fights. plus he's resorted to some rough tactics to force his will onto opponents.

kessler on the other hand has barely lost rounds to anyone. never been stunned or dropped for that matter and has more authority behind his punches. while he has a back problem i suspect calzaghe's hands will be more likely to break before kessler's back gives in. keesler is so naturally strong he makes it look easy. he never really does any rough house tactics, and never been in trouble.

having said all that this is a very good example of where styles makes fights. it might be a back and forth match, but i doubt that. i feel one fighter will have the right tools for the job and slowly wear the other one down. and either dominate him down the stretch or late round tko.

i win (and lose) either way as im a big fan of both equally. that's why i feel my assessments are pretty accurate cause i dont have any bias clouding my judgement.

kessler has never fought anyone like calzaghe. but the same can be said for joe. kessler is NOT a Veit, or Reid, or Mitchell, or Lacy... he is far superior to all those figthers and he will show this come fight night :thumbsup

Excellent post.

Wish i could be as happy regardless who wins as you are - as i accept Calzaghe poses ALMOST as great a danger to Kessler as the other way around. But alas for me a Calzaghe victory would really ruin my day...well...week.
So i just really gotta hope Kessler is all i think he is. If not, he's in big trouble... and so am i.

[digiram]

Quote me on this.

Kessler will win...

Why???

He has a great jab and a superb straight right.

The jab neutralizes speed, and the straight right is a southpaw killer.

:good

Joe's not going to be in there with a slugger that he can pick apart. It's going to be a war that the younger and fresher will win.

[Decebal]

No, reminds me of an incident though...


Coach: I need 110% from you China, can you do that?

CHJ: No. That is illogical mate.

Coach: 100% then, you know what I mean.

CHJ: No. That would be foolish

Coach looks puzzled

CHJ: For starters 100% is an unrealistic target, given the nature of the human mind.

Secondly only a fool would want to give that much. I'd be better off pacing myself don't you think? I'll give you an average of 70% effort mate.



That was my football career over aged 11.


Giving only 70% when the coach asks for 110% shows lack of committment. You should have said you'll give him at least 83%...he would have been happy with that!

(100% - you collapse at the end of the game and die)

(101% - you collapse a minute before the end of the game and die)

(99% - you collapse at the end of the game and go into a comma, having suffered a massive heart attack)

(95% - you collapse at the end of the game and you suffer a massive heart attack)

(93% - you collapse at the end of the game and suffer a mild heart attack)

(90% - you collapse at the end of the fight of complete exhaustion)

(87% - you can barely leave the field you are so exhausted)

(85% - you are more exhausted than you can ever remember being before - you have pushed your phsycological/ emotional boundaries forward and have built character to a great extent)

(83% - you are very exhausted -you have pushed your phsycological/ emotional boundaries forward and have built character to a significant extent)

(...70% - you pretended to try, but your heart wasn't in it - you thought you were kidding your coach but you were in fact letting yourself and your team down and kidding no one - disgraceful!:-( )

[semichin]

The jab is a southpaw killer?

LOL.

Fuck off, kid. The straight right is what he called the southpaw killer...But it won't be as easy vs Joe

[Astola]

There is nothing to be said for this series of paragraphs except "This is utter fucking bollocks"

Calzaghe has been around long before the Lacy fight - you may have noticed that many of us were saying similar things then about Lacy's chances and that Joe was severely underrated. Like the fucking sunrise, predictably all the comments have come back.

"Bullshit arguments about southpaws being superior to orthodox" - no, there is no argument there, the argument is that the southpaw fighter creates unnatural problems for the orthodox jabber, always has, always will

The fact that you guys overlook this fact is only because you don't know boxing - you may be a fan of boxing, but you don't KNOW boxing.

Kessler is ambidexterous, has power, speed, stamina? Why then can't Kessler throw more than four or five hooks in a fight? Why does he struggle throwing anything that isn't a left jab or a right straight cross? Why doesn't he work to the body? Why does he tire/fade down the stretch? Why if he has power, hasn't he knocked out the real competitors he's faced..

Joe has style, speed, footwork, experience and adaption in his favour. Their power is so evenly matched that it isn't funny, with Joe getting stoppages against better fighters than Kessler has stopped

The ONLY way Kessler creates problems for Joe is if he miraculously finds a tight right hook overnight.

"What boxer has kept Joe on the outside before?" - None - Why? Because Joe primarly has been an OUTSIDE BOXER - this is what makes me laugh, you think Joe can only fight on the inside? Fuck me, go take a look at the Eubank fight where he boxed him from the outside for near the entire fight - please, grow a fucking brain.

Kessler is up against it here, Joe has all the neccessarily tools to beat an orthodox jabbing fighter - Kessler doesn't have the tools to beat Joe - it will come down to whether or not he gets lucky with a punch on the night, even then - I doubt he has the power to put Joe away.




Again, nothing but utter rubbish here.

Joe is not a pressure fighter, he never has been and he never will be - yes, he has a tendancy to swarm his fighters, throw flurries - what you're forgetting is the work he does before coming in and the work he does after coming in.

Namely - the timing and composure to slip punches on the way in and the ability to bounce back out again after he's fired his punches - he doesn't sit in the pocket, he's NOT an inside fighter.

So Kessler is going to control Joe because Joe will ALWAYS be coming forward? Fuck me - have you seen ANY Calzaghe fight? He ONLY comes forward on the back of a mistake from his opponent, watch him against Manfredo, he fought cautiously from the outside until he caught Manfredo's mistake, then he swarms in and fires combinations.



Uhhm, since when did Mundine have faster handspeed than Joe Calzaghe? Calzaghe is being compared with Roy Jones Jr by some people for fucks sake - name me the time you saw Mundine land a 5-6 hit combination on a BUM let alone a challenger.

Again with the idiocy about Calzaghe being a pressure fighter - Calzaghe is NOT an infighter, Calzaghe uses his timing, countering and ability to capitalise on an opponents mistakes to get on the inside and blast away - but you never see him coming forward, head down, trying to get into the chest of his opponent - THAT's a pressure fighter - you're calling Calzaghe a pressure fighter? Fuck off



Watch Winky Wright or any other southpaw for that matter against a jabbing fighter - watch him against Taylor for instance, what were Taylor's two money punches aganist Wright? The left hook to the body and the right cross.

Watch Hopkins, the southpaw killer - what is his money punch? The straight right hand.

Kessler doesn't have a good straight right hand UNLESS it's following jabs - Calzaghe has never had issue with the jab, his stance and high lead hand takes it away from fighters, that with the fact that he has the faster feet and faster hands means jabbing him is fucking stupid.

Kessler will attempt the jab, get slipped and find either a counter lead hook or a straight left hand waiting for him, don't you worry.




Joe is no more of a sucker for the right hand than any southpaw, it's a pipeline punch - however, if Eubank - one of the best overhand rights in the business - couldn't land on green Calzaghe, what makes you think Kessler, with no where near the lead right, is going too?


I'm sick of debating this bullshit

On one side of the fence, you have Kessler fans attempting to create a strawman argument about Kesslers abilities - none of which he's displayed in the ring and none of which anyone has any reason to suspect he has

It's not even worth trying to talk logic to these guys- my advice? Get your kicks in, kick dirt in their face and rub the shit in - knowing that when Calzaghe dominates this "good" fighter, that they're going to vanish for good.


Jeez Blocky....

Thats one hell of a long post. In my business we have a saying that the longer an oponnent talks about his case - the better case we have.

The statement marked with yellow doesnt make sense at all. Youre almost unstopable dude....!

[DanePugilist]

Jeez Blocky....

Thats one hell of a long post. In my business we have a saying that the longer an oponnent talks about his case - the better case we have.

The statement marked with yellow doesnt make sense at all. Youre almost unstopable dude....!:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[DanePugilist]

Giving only 70% when the coach asks for 110% shows lack of committment. You should have said you'll give him at least 83%...he would have been happy with that!

(100% - you collapse at the end of the game and die)

(101% - you collapse a minute before the end of the game and die)

(99% - you collapse at the end of the game and go into a comma, having suffered a massive heart attack)

(95% - you collapse at the end of the game and you suffer a massive heart attack)

(93% - you collapse at the end of the game and suffer a mild heart attack)

(90% - you collapse at the end of the fight of complete exhaustion)

(87% - you can barely leave the field you are so exhausted)

(85% - you are more exhausted than you can ever remember being before - you have pushed your phsycological/ emotional boundaries forward and have built character to a great extent)

(83% - you are very exhausted -you have pushed your phsycological/ emotional boundaries forward and have built character to a significant extent)

(...70% - you pretended to try, but your heart wasn't in it - you thought you were kidding your coach but you were in fact letting yourself and your team down and kidding no one - disgraceful!:-( ):rofl:rofl:rofl - excellent runthrough.

In CHJs defence, he did say that he would average 70%, and suggested that it would be better pacing himself.

[China_hand_Joe]

Giving only 70% when the coach asks for 110% shows lack of committment. You should have said you'll give him at least 83%...he would have been happy with that!

(100% - you collapse at the end of the game and die)

(101% - you collapse a minute before the end of the game and die)

(99% - you collapse at the end of the game and go into a comma, having suffered a massive heart attack)

(95% - you collapse at the end of the game and you suffer a massive heart attack)

(93% - you collapse at the end of the game and suffer a mild heart attack)

(90% - you collapse at the end of the fight of complete exhaustion)

(87% - you can barely leave the field you are so exhausted)

(85% - you are more exhausted than you can ever remember being before - you have pushed your phsycological/ emotional boundaries forward and have built character to a great extent)

(83% - you are very exhausted -you have pushed your phsycological/ emotional boundaries forward and have built character to a significant extent)

(...70% - you pretended to try, but your heart wasn't in it - you thought you were kidding your coach but you were in fact letting yourself and your team down and kidding no one - disgraceful!:-( )

That doesn't happened mate, it is all wrong.

Go out your home and just start sprinting flatout and keep going flatout, when you get tired keep going.

I did that once. Just to see what happened

You just start to lose you balance, your legs go, you fall, you get up, go on fall again, get up and go on a few more times, until you can't get up again. At this point people intervened.

[China_hand_Joe]

:rofl:rofl:rofl - excellent runthrough.

In CHJs defence, he did say that he would average 70%, and suggested that it would be better pacing himself.

In Decebal's defence I was a substitue in the 89th minute.

[Decebal]

That doesn't happened mate, it is all wrong.

Go out your home and just start sprinting flatout and keep going flatout, when you get tired keep going.

I did that once. Just to see what happened

You just start to lose you balance, your legs go, you fall, you get up, go on fall again, get up and go on a few more times, until you can't get up again. At this point people intervened.

You went up to 85% that time...maybe that is the best you will ever be capable of...

[Dekkers]

You went up to 85% that time...maybe that is the best you will ever be capable of...

China Hand Joe fears his potential :yep

[China_hand_Joe]

You went up to 85% that time...maybe that is the best you will ever be capable of...

I used Iboga, it was definitely 99.9% plus.

[Decebal]

I used Iboga, it was definitely 99.9% plus.

Did you suffer a massive heart attack? Were you in a coma for months? Were you clinically dead for hours before they managed to resuscitate you? Did you have one of those out-of-body experiences in which you can see your body from the air, the doctors almost about to switch off life-support?

NO!

So, don't be silly - you weren't even close to 86% of your potential - you barely scraped an 85,2%.

[Amsterdam]

I used Iboga, it was definitely 99.9% plus.

That sent my boxing knowledge through the roof, have you noticed an increase Cal?

[China_hand_Joe]

That sent my boxing knowledge through the roof, have you noticed an increase Cal?

I find it highly doubtful any has come into your hands.

[Amsterdam]

I find it highly doubtful any has come into your hands.

Why so?

[Decebal]

That sent my boxing knowledge through the roof, have you noticed an increase Cal?

The only certain effect of drugs is that they make you THINK that you are having a more meaningful experience/ are thinking something through deeply or thoroughly, when in fact, the only thing you are thinking is "I AM A FUCKING GOD!"

[Decebal]

China Hand Joe fears his potential :yep

Who wouldn't, in his place!:roll:

[Amsterdam]

The only certain effect of drugs is that they make you THINK that you are having a more meaningful experience/ are thinking something through deeply or thoroughly, when in fact, the only thing you are thinking is "I AM A FUCKING GOD!"

I was actually thinking(while watching JC fights) - 'WOW'.:yep

[Decebal]

I was actually thinking(while watching JC fights) - 'WOW'.:yep

...you were thinking Joe was supernatural, but without any drugs, right? ...Just youtube...:lol:

[China_hand_Joe]

Why so?

It doesn't just grow on trees.

Well actually is kind of does, but not near you.

[Amsterdam]

...you were thinking Joe was supernatural, but without any drugs, right? ...Just youtube...:lol:

Yes, without drugs Joe was supernatural. With drugs, Joe was unbeatable, like CHJ feels.

Iboga use = CHJ views.:yep :good

[Decebal]

Yes, without drugs Joe was supernatural. With drugs, Joe was unbeatable, like CHJ feels.

Iboga use = CHJ views.:yep :good

:think Does it surprise ANYONE that China_hand_Joe is on drugs?:verysad

[heidegger]

Calzaghe seems to me like the sort of guy that like to relax after a bath and watch some good ole kiddy porn. Kesslers mean in the ring and gonna make that Celt his bitch. Calfaggy gonna learn to fear Kesslers power early on and where your expecting to see your speedy gonzales your gonna see a timid little boy. Put all your money on Kessler and take the week off work.

[cuchulain]

Calzaghe seems to me like the sort of guy that like to relax after a bath and watch some good ole kiddy porn. Kesslers mean in the ring and gonna make that Celt his bitch. Calfaggy gonna learn to fear Kesslers power early on and where your expecting to see your speedy gonzales your gonna see a timid little boy. Put all your money on Kessler and take the week off work.


And you sound like a guy who spends waaay toooo much time jerkin' yourself off. I can see you're right into the settings and the imagery.