Recommend some fighters for me to watch

[GPater11093]

so i have heard Sweet Pea mention Ralph Dupas recently so i will try and check him out

can anyone else recommend me some more obscure fighters that i should watch

[Dempsey1238]

Jack Delaney.

Jimmy Britt

Villa

[GPater11093]

thanks

[sweet_scientist]

I like pure boxer types. So I'll recommend some pure boxers for you. Don't know exactly what you have seen, but these are some to look out for if you haven't already seen them:

Johnny Famechon (vs. Vicente Saldivar, Fighting Harada and Jose Legra)

Howard Winstone (vs. Vicente Saldivar - in particular the second fight -and Mitsonuri Seki)

Billy Graham (vs. Kid Gavilan III, Joey Giardello II and Cleo Shans)

Ernesto Marcel (vs. Antonio Gomez and Kuniaki Shibata in particular - you've probably already seen the Arguello and Duran fights)

Joey Archer (vs. Emile Griffith I & II, Holly Mims and Farid Salim)

[GPater11093]

cheers i like pure boxers too

i migth be getting the Winstone-Saldivar trilogy from a freind.

ill have a look for the rest of the guys

[teeto]

Yeah you will be intrigued by Pancho Villa for sure mate. By the way i can reccommend you a fight that i do most people on here but it doesn't seem anyone who hasn't already seen it takes the advice.

Barney Ross vs Jimmy McLarnin 3.

[bladerunner]

Bennie Briscoe.

[GPater11093]

yeh Teeto i have seen some of Villa he looks pretty decent from what i have seen (not alot though)

I have Ross vs McLarnin 3 its a great fight

and Briscoe is a fighter i like also Bladerunner

im looking for more unheralded fighters

[DINAMITA]

On Mantequilla's recommendation, I've been watching some of Tony Sibson, outwith the Hagler fight which was the only fight I had seen with Sibson. He was actually a damn good middleweight. Really made me appreciate just how special Hagler was.

[SuzieQ49]

Jimmy Carter vs Araujo. A very underrated fight where the Champion(Carter) scored a big UPSET over the hot challenger(araujo). Rare indeed.

[GPater11093]

cheers Suzy

also DINAMITA i like Sibson very good fighter

[la-califa]

Here's some obscure fighters who are worth checking out: Dwight Davison, Frank Fletcher,Jerry"The Bull" Martin, James Scott, Zach Padilla, Carlos "Bollilo" Gonzalez, Jorge Paez, Clyde Grey, Randy Shields.

[GPater11093]

cheers LC will check them out

[natonic]

Have you seen Tyrone Everett? Particularly against Alfredo Escalera? Brilliant fighter. Others I liked that come to mind: Jimmy Paul, Harry Arroyo, Bernardo Pinango, check out Reyes Cruz against Camacho (he arguably beat Camacho), Eijiro Murata (went tooth and nail with Pintor and Chandler), Mike "The Bounty" Hunter (vs James Thunder).

[GPater11093]

havent seen Everett but i have heard hes good

[Dempsey1238]

Micky Walker
Tommy Loughran

[PhillyPhan69]

Not really obscure
Brian Mitchell
Yaqui Lopez
Jeff Chandler
Boza Edwards
Danny Lopez (there is more than Ayala and sanchez)
Jesse James Leija

[GPater11093]

chhers PP and dempsey

i really like Loghran Demspey as you sent me some footage of 1 of his fights and him sparring i was impressed a bit like a littler Tunney IMO who used his jab alot more.

PP some good anmes i dont know enough about i like Lopez he is amazing same with Boza Edward hes quite a skilled boxer, the rest i have just afew of there fights

[teeto]

chhers PP and dempsey

i really like Loghran Demspey as you sent me some footage of 1 of his fights and him sparring i was impressed a bit like a littler Tunney IMO who used his jab alot more.

PP some good anmes i dont know enough about i like Lopez he is amazing same with Boza Edward hes quite a skilled boxer, the rest i have just afew of there fights
cchers?

Haha, i'll stop now

[red cobra]

Depends on what style you're interested in. For the consumate boxer/technicians, who may not thrill you with the big ko punches, or blood and guts trench warfare, I would suggest Harold Johnson..Willie Pastrano...Tommy Loughran..Miguel Canto..Billy Conn..
for aggression, blood and guts and slugging, Carmine Basilio..Gene Fullmer...Jake la Motta.., nonstop windmill volume punching, Fighting Harada...Henry Armstrong, a versatile mechanic, Emile Griffith.., a strong pressure fighter, Dick Tiger,.sheer defensive brilliance, Wilfred Benitez..Nicolino Locche...Sweetpea Whitaker, and my 4 favorite all time greats (all from the 70's) Wilfredo Gomez..Ken Buchanan...Jose Napoles ...Carlos Monzon..and I've left out so many more.

[red cobra]

Orlando Canizales
Gene Tunney
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
Luis Rodriguez
Danny Little Red Lopez
Joey Maxim
Hector Camacho
Julio Cesar Chavez
Salvador Sanchez

..still left out plenty

[teeto]

Orlando Canizales
Gene Tunney
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
Luis Rodriguez
Danny Little Red Lopez
Joey Maxim
Hector Camacho
Julio Cesar Chavez
Salvador Sanchez

..still left out plenty
That's pretty much an amazing list right there, he'll thank you one day for that.

[teeto]

He already knows a lot about Little Red though i'm sure.

[red cobra]

That's pretty much an amazing list right there, he'll thank you one day for that.
Man, I hope so..they've sure been some of my favorites through the years..an eclectic mix to be sure, however..

[teeto]

Man, I hope so..they've sure been some of my favorites through the years..an eclectic mix to be sure, however..
Yeah a real mix, i can tell you like someone who can box though from your list, a ring general with skills and can hold his own rather than the 'runner', that's the impression i get anyhow.

[red cobra]

I left out guys who, for obvious reasons I admire, but who aren't, how shall we say it.."crowd pleasers" like Sammy Angott, Ernie Terrell, Hugo Corro, Alberto Sandoval...

[teeto]

I left out guys who, for obvious reasons I admire, but who aren't, how shall we say it.."crowd pleasers" like Sammy Angott, Ernie Terrell, Hugo Corro, Alberto Sandoval...
You are a knowledgeable one, i like watching a lot of safety first fighters myself, i was wow'd by Tommy Loughran when i laid eyes on him, thought he was like a matador tbh.

[red cobra]

Yeah a real mix, i can tell you like someone who can box though from your list, a ring general with skills and can hold his own rather than the 'runner', that's the impression i get anyhow.
Yes, exactly. I've always been more appreciative of the guy who does the subtle stuff that everyone may not either understand (took me a long time to), and who may be thought of as "over-technical", who may not score a ko evrytime out, and may be a "decision fighter", and yes, the "runners" do not necessarily equate with "skill", you know? I've learned that a guy may not be a "dancer", but can be very subtle and effective. What styles do you tend to prefer?

[red cobra]

You are a knowledgeable one, i like watching a lot of safety first fighters myself, i was wow'd by Tommy Loughran when i laid eyes on him, thought he was like a matador tbh.
Thank you sir..I've loitered around in the Lounge a bit too long, and really prefer this Forum, where I can continue the learning process from guys like you, Duodenum, Raging Bull, McGrain, Janitor, etc., and yes, though I had headr of him for years, I finally saw Loughran only fairly recently, and he amazed me!!

[teeto]

Yes, exactly. I've always been more appreciative of the guy who does the subtle stuff that everyone may not either understand (took me a long time to), and who may be thought of as "over-technical", who may not score a ko evrytime out, and may be a "decision fighter", and yes, the "runners" do not necessarily equate with "skill", you know? I've learned that a guy may not be a "dancer", but can be very subtle and effective. What styles do you tend to prefer?
I know it sounds like an old cliche, but i really do just try and appreciate high skillsets within all different styles. But on the point of what you just said there, i agree completely, watching how Archie Moore's ring craft works to a tee (when he is 'on') for me is special, he's doing things with his shoulders, elbows, dipping his chin slightly, and countering all the while, quite busy actually, i luv that kind of thing. And the one you put forward in Orlando Canizales, class, what a usage of angles to get maximium leverage on shots.

When it comes to exciting fighters, it's strange, a guy like Erik Morales putting all on the line has had me more in awe thana guy like Mosley who is highly skilled and varied in his offense, not sure why. But Shane is a warrior as well

[teeto]

Thank you sir..I've loitered around in the Lounge a bit too long, and really prefer this Forum, where I can continue the learning process from guys like you, Duodenum, Raging Bull, McGrain, Janitor, etc., and yes, though I had headr of him for years, I finally saw Loughran only fairly recently, and he amazed me!!
Haha, i don't think you'll be doin any learning from me with that vast encyclopedia of boxing that seems to be situated between your ears! Likely the opposite will be occurring. But thanks for the acknowledgement there!

[red cobra]

Haha, i don't think you'll be doin any learning from me with that vast encyclopedia of boxing that seems to be situated between your ears! Likely the opposite will be occurring. But thanks for the acknowledgement there!
Appreciate the kind words bud, and I look forward to learning from you as well everyone else who posts.

[red cobra]

I know it sounds like an old cliche, but i really do just try and appreciate high skillsets within all different styles. But on the point of what you just said there, i agree completely, watching how Archie Moore's ring craft works to a tee (when he is 'on') for me is special, he's doing things with his shoulders, elbows, dipping his chin slightly, and countering all the while, quite busy actually, i luv that kind of thing. And the one you put forward in Orlando Canizales, class, what a usage of angles to get maximium leverage on shots.

When it comes to exciting fighters, it's strange, a guy like Erik Morales putting all on the line has had me more in awe thana guy like Mosley who is highly skilled and varied in his offense, not sure why. But Shane is a warrior as well
Yes, sometimes it's what a guy does with what he has rather than how much he has. Your mentioning of Archie Moore is right on...I always think of how long it took that man to get the deserved title shot, and how, in something I read of him once, that after he got he decision and the title from Joey Maxim, his handlers got more excited than he was..he was telling them to "be cool...this should have happened years ago.."

[teeto]

Yes, sometimes it's what a guy does with what he has rather than how much he has. Your mentioning of Archie Moore is right on...I always think of how long it took that man to get the deserved title shot, and how, in something I read of him once, that after he got he decision and the title from Joey Maxim, his handlers got more excited than he was..he was telling them to "be cool...this should have happened years ago.."
Thanks for that, a great little piece of boxing folklore right there. A lot of people try to say even now that the Murdere's Row were not good enough, well Moore was part of the row and reigned supreme for years into his later career.

[GPater11093]

cchers?

Haha, i'll stop now

wait a minute i spelt it 'chhers'

you dumb fuck you cant even copy something.

Depends on what style you're interested in. For the consumate boxer/technicians, who may not thrill you with the big ko punches, or blood and guts trench warfare, I would suggest Harold Johnson..Willie Pastrano...Tommy Loughran..Miguel Canto..Billy Conn..
for aggression, blood and guts and slugging, Carmine Basilio..Gene Fullmer...Jake la Motta.., nonstop windmill volume punching, Fighting Harada...Henry Armstrong, a versatile mechanic, Emile Griffith.., a strong pressure fighter, Dick Tiger,.sheer defensive brilliance, Wilfred Benitez..Nicolino Locche...Sweetpea Whitaker, and my 4 favorite all time greats (all from the 70's) Wilfredo Gomez..Ken Buchanan...Jose Napoles ...Carlos Monzon..and I've left out so many more.

a great list of fighters i have seen all of them, i was looking for more obscure ones but a great list

Orlando Canizales
Gene Tunney
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
Luis Rodriguez
Danny Little Red Lopez
Joey Maxim
Hector Camacho
Julio Cesar Chavez
Salvador Sanchez

..still left out plenty

Never watched alot of Camacho or EMM. And i have never seen Rodriguez but im trying.

That's pretty much an amazing list right there, he'll thank you one day for that.

i thank him today

He already knows a lot about Little Red though i'm sure.

yeh i like Danny great fighter

I left out guys who, for obvious reasons I admire, but who aren't, how shall we say it.."crowd pleasers" like Sammy Angott, Ernie Terrell, Hugo Corro, Alberto Sandoval...

ill try check out some of those guys too.

You are a knowledgeable one, i like watching a lot of safety first fighters myself, i was wow'd by Tommy Loughran when i laid eyes on him, thought he was like a matador tbh.

yeh Dempsey sent me a fight of Loughran with him sparring and Dempsey and Loughran was amazing im really impressed with him.

Yes, exactly. I've always been more appreciative of the guy who does the subtle stuff that everyone may not either understand (took me a long time to), and who may be thought of as "over-technical", who may not score a ko evrytime out, and may be a "decision fighter", and yes, the "runners" do not necessarily equate with "skill", you know? I've learned that a guy may not be a "dancer", but can be very subtle and effective. What styles do you tend to prefer?

I like all styles of fighters myslef all for different reasons.

[teeto]

wait a minute i spelt it 'chhers'

you dumb fuck you cant even copy something.

Well if i'm dumb you must be dumber:good, either that or we refer to you as Mr. Ironic from now on!:deal