Mercer did it, can Tyson?

[Punisher33]

I personally wouldn't want to see Tyson lower himself into doing MMA matches, but the fact still remains. Mercer is 49 years old and was able to knockout a top 10 MMA Heavyweight with one punch and made it look easy, so could Tyson who just turned 43? Tyson said it himself, because of the condition he has, he admitted that once he's in the gym he trains like a mad man. So thats say Tyson gets down to about 230, which was roughly what he was for his last couple fights at Heavyweight before he retired, do you see Iron Mike coming in being able to knockout some of the best the MMA has to offer or do you feel he's too washed up now to make a even a dent?

[boxingcar]

I personally wouldn't want to see Tyson lower himself into doing MMA matches, but the fact still remains. Mercer is 49 years old and was able to knockout a top 10 MMA Heavyweight with one punch and made it look easy, so could Tyson who just turned 43? Tyson said it himself, because of the condition he has, he admitted that once he's in the gym he trains like a mad man. So thats say Tyson gets down to about 230, which was roughly what he was for his last couple fights at Heavyweight before he retired, do you see Iron Mike coming in being able to knockout some of the best the MMA has to offer or do you feel he's too washed up now to make a even a dent?

Better question...can Kimbo do it ? After all , it took him a matter of seconds to finish mercer right ? And kimbo is a bum...So ?

[Punisher33]

Better question...can Kimbo do it ? After all , it took him a matter of seconds to finish mercer right ? And kimbo is a bum...So ? Yes, but Kimbo cant put together his punches the way a Tyson or Mercer can. I guess Ray's knockout win had me thinking how much money the UFC or whatever other MMA organization can generate by setting Tyson up with some matches, god knows Tyson could use the money. And like several other washed up former Good/Great Heavyweights, why not make some money off your name going up against decent to good MMA fighters who cant take a punch?

[Ubersteve]

If he fights someone who tries to stand and trade with him like a moron,then yes he can do it. Assuming his opponent decides to take him down, then no he can't.

[sir axeman]

Who on earth would be so stupid in MMA to stand up and trade punches with Tyson?

[Ubersteve]

Cro Cop might relentlessly boot him in the head, but not many people would stand with him.

[sir axeman]

Think about it...theres a whole lot more $$$ in boxing..and if these MMA guys could do it well enough they'd come over to boxing and cash in...but they know they would have no chance. So instead we see old washed up boxers coming over to their sport to make a few $$$.

[Ubersteve]

Well they don't specialise in boxing, and most have taken it up as a secondary thing after specialising in something else. So at the age they'd be starting you can't expect them to make it. Just like you can't really expect them to win Olympic wrestling if they're not a wrestler and just use wrestling for MMA purposes.

[boxingcar]

Yes, but Kimbo cant put together his punches the way a Tyson or Mercer can. I guess Ray's knockout win had me thinking how much money the UFC or whatever other MMA organization can generate by setting Tyson up with some matches, god knows Tyson could use the money. And like several other washed up former Good/Great Heavyweights, why not make some money off your name going up against decent to good MMA fighters who cant take a punch?


MMA is not boxing and never will be. A bum only needs to rush like a bull , go for a takedown during the clinch and game over.

Mercer koed Sylvia in 9 seconds for a good reason. Sylvia is a dumb egocentric asshole. Prior to the fight , he was saying that he'd beat the guy with his striking. Better yet , the fight was originally supposed to be under boxing rules.

that's how deluded Sylvia is.

Sylvia could've ridiculed mercer pretty muche like Kimbo did (by mma standards kimbo is a bum btw) Ironically the ranked fighter couldn't get the job done. But his ego got in the way.

If Fedor Emelianenko would be dumb enough to "test" his striking abilities against a professional boxer , he'd also get owned. MMA rules enables grapplers to dominate. If they're not smart enough to take the fight on the ground , where it's at their advantage....so be it....Fuck'em.

But any fighter , who's got basics in grappling , and fights intelligently. (taking zero risks and not trying to beat a boxer at his own game) , will have all the chances in the world on his side. And the boxer will only have a puncher's chance.

I'm happy for Mercer though. i'd hate to see him get the beating of his life especially at his age. Imagine a guy of Lesnar's size throwing him around the cage like a rag doll...it would be horrible.

Fuck Sylvia ! Fedor perfectly understood this in his fight against him...and he also took advantage of it. It took fedor less time to finish Sylvia than he did against Hong man choi. (and Man choi is not ranked)

[boxingcar]

Think about it...theres a whole lot more $$$ in boxing..and if these MMA guys could do it well enough they'd come over to boxing and cash in...but they know they would have no chance. So instead we see old washed up boxers coming over to their sport to make a few $$$.


they obviously wouldn't have a chance because most aren't even boxers to begin with. Most originally have a wrestling , judo , jiujitsu background...not even an amateur boxing record.

[boxingcar]

Who on earth would be so stupid in MMA to stand up and trade punches with Tyson?

Why not ? Sylvia did it against Mercer...I know it's fucking stupid , but you're underestimating the stupidity and pretentiousness of some of these guys...

Sylvia is one of them. Arlovski is also one of them. So is Sokoudjou....

Originally Arlovski is supposed to be a mother fucking Sambo artist...and yet , the guy tries to box under mma rules...Sokoudjou....He's supposed to be a Judoka....but whenever he's fighting , he never pulls any judo throws and looks like utter shit on the ground. Go figure...

[achillesthegreat]

Tyson would be just like Tyson. Win some and lose some. He is old and not 100% committed. Sometimes he'll be taken down and sometimes he'll land the big one. No point embarassing himself.

[HomicideHenry]

Tyson was offered to fight MMA several times, and every time he turned it down. Bob Sapp, Rick Roufus and Royce Gracie at different times in his career were offered up to fight Tyson, and it never happened.

[Tuffnutz]

Tyson was also man handled and pushed back in the cinch more than once in his career

This does't spell good for faceing wrestlers.

[OuterDrake]

MMA is not boxing and never will be. A bum only needs to rush like a bull , go for a takedown during the clinch and game over.

Mercer koed Sylvia in 9 seconds for a good reason. Sylvia is a dumb egocentric asshole. Prior to the fight , he was saying that he'd beat the guy with his striking. Better yet , the fight was originally supposed to be under boxing rules.

that's how deluded Sylvia is.

Sylvia could've ridiculed mercer pretty muche like Kimbo did (by mma standards kimbo is a bum btw) Ironically the ranked fighter couldn't get the job done. But his ego got in the way.

If Fedor Emelianenko would be dumb enough to "test" his striking abilities against a professional boxer , he'd also get owned. MMA rules enables grapplers to dominate. If they're not smart enough to take the fight on the ground , where it's at their advantage....so be it....Fuck'em.

But any fighter , who's got basics in grappling , and fights intelligently. (taking zero risks and not trying to beat a boxer at his own game) , will have all the chances in the world on his side. And the boxer will only have a puncher's chance.

I'm happy for Mercer though. i'd hate to see him get the beating of his life especially at his age. Imagine a guy of Lesnar's size throwing him around the cage like a rag doll...it would be horrible.

Fuck Sylvia ! Fedor perfectly understood this in his fight against him...and he also took advantage of it. It took fedor less time to finish Sylvia than he did against Hong man choi. (and Man choi is not ranked)

It doesn't bother you that the striking of mma is 10x inferior to boxing?

Brandon Vera couldn't beat Sylvia with his striking.

You and the majority of the mma community could not beat Tim even on your best day.

And you know why?

Cause you ain't never won a Olympic gold metal or a hw boxing championship.:hi:

[Zakman]

Sure, Tyson could probably come out of retirement right now, tap one of these bums on their glass jaw and go home.:lol:

[Punisher33]

Tyson was offered to fight MMA several times, and every time he turned it down. Bob Sapp, Rick Roufus and Royce Gracie at different times in his career were offered up to fight Tyson, and it never happened. And why would he? Everytime he was offered to do it, he would of take a huge pay cut compared to what he would of made in a boxing at the time. Now that he's done with boxing, maybe now might be the time to ask him to do some matches.

[Boinko]

Sure, Tyson could try MMA. But, will he try and fight a guy like Sylvia who promises to stand and punch with him? Because otherwise, no sane MMA fighter would want to stay on their feet with Tyson any longer than they had to.
With that said, would Tyson have any kind of defense against a takedown? Probably not. You could never totally disregard him having some sort of chance since he presumably can still punch, and could land something before the fight goes to the ground.
But realistically, there's too many other factors at play in an MMA fight that would work against a boxer, especially one who is older and likely hasn't kept in shape.

[Tuffnutz]

Sylvia should have won this fight easy.

Mercer would'nt have had any answer to a takedown.

Sylvia just fought a stupid fight.

This was an easy fight for Tim.

He was willing to face Mercer in a pure boxing match though, so it shows you how little respect he had for Mercer and how stupid he was.

If they fought MMA again 10 times Sylvia would win 10 times.

If they fought boxing 10 times Mercer would win 10 times.

[the beaver]

Sylvia should have won this fight easy.

Mercer would'nt have had any answer to a takedown.

Sylvia just fought a stupid fight.

This was an easy fight for Tim.

He was willing to face Mercer in a pure boxing match though, so it shows you how little respect he had for Mercer and how stupid he was.

If they fought MMA again 10 times Sylvia would win 10 times.

If they fought boxing 10 times Mercer would win 10 times.

I agree but my ratio is a little different for MMA......... I have Sylvia winning 9 out of 10 and boxing i have 10/10 Mercer.

I have 1 for Mercer in MMA cos we just saw it on the weekend. The next 9 fights Sylvia goes straight for the takedown

[brixtonbeat]

better question. if tyson was in shape why wouldnt he just pick up a heavyweight boxing paycheque?

[HomicideHenry]

because tyson is too old and dull to compete with the real players in boxing, with mma guys, there's a chance for anything to happen....they are not punchers like boxers are...even the elite mma strikers are a world a difference from boxers in general.

[boxingcar]

It doesn't bother you that the striking of mma is 10x inferior to boxing?

Brandon Vera couldn't beat Sylvia with his striking.

You and the majority of the mma community could not beat Tim even on your best day.

And you know why?

Cause you ain't never won a Olympic gold metal or a hw boxing championship.:hi:

Welcome to the club OuterDrake. (you wouldn't be any different)
And no , it doesn't bother me that mma's striking is way inferior because mma isn't boxing. Fighters don't need it to own guys like mayweather , Pac , the klitschkos etc...under their rules.

All it takes , is an instant takedown. If sylvia is dumb & pretentious enough to follow a gameplan in which he has the intention to outstrike a pro boxer under mma rules....that's his problem...

[boxingcar]

better question. if tyson was in shape why wouldnt he just pick up a heavyweight boxing paycheque?

btw tyson's daughter recently died too....I wonder if boxing fans are aware of this. People still talk about the guy as if he'd make an eventual come back...but it'll never happen. He's too fat , unmotivated...& the icing on th cake...a horrible tragedy happened in his life..

[SouthpawSlayer]

why go mma for $500,000 and venture into a sport where he is a novice or go back boxing and make 6 million in his first fight back in a sport where he is comfortable

he would ko a lot of the cans in mma though, no doubt

[scurlaruntings]

Why not ? Sylvia did it against Mercer...I know it's fucking stupid , but you're underestimating the stupidity and pretentiousness of some of these guys...

Sylvia is one of them. Arlovski is also one of them. So is Sokoudjou....

Originally Arlovski is supposed to be a mother fucking Sambo artist...and yet , the guy tries to box under mma rules...Sokoudjou....He's supposed to be a Judoka....but whenever he's fighting , he never pulls any judo throws and looks like utter shit on the ground. Go figure...Because thats what happens when guys listen and buy into there own hype. Soko is like a beetle on his back. Its pathetic to think he represented his country in Judo and his soooo utterly useless from guard. These guys wont ever learn. I put them in the same club as Hammerhouse. But at least Hammerhouse were all athletically blessed with extraordinary talent. I have more talent in my big toe than Tim posssess in his entire body.

[scurlaruntings]

better question. if tyson was in shape why wouldnt he just pick up a heavyweight boxing paycheque?Because he's retired? I reckon that might have something to do with it.

[brixtonbeat]

Because he's retired? I reckon that might have something to do with it.

Obviously. But, the point of this thread to discuss the fantasy prospect of a Tyson return.

Clearly the geezer is under no circumstances returning to the ring. However, if in fact he was to return, surely he would make more money in the squared circle as opposed to a cage.

[Burundanga]

Who on earth would be so stupid in MMA to stand up and trade punches with Tyson?

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[HeavyT]

jesus i always knew he was a bit tubby but he looks awful in that pic

[scurlaruntings]

jesus i always knew he was a bit tubby but he looks awful in that picAnd that gimp was actually on hormones once.. :lol: