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scurlaruntings
06-15-2009, 10:49 AM
How much does that meathead weigh? He's always been manhandled and i dont get how a man who is 6ft 4 240lbs (apparently) can just get thrown around like a rag doll.

québecwarrior
06-15-2009, 11:12 AM
ahaha i dont know if its him who was weak, or Velasquez whos super strong, because Kongo was getting abused physically.


Kongo is a stupid fighter, he is not intelligent. How many time he was clinched with Velasquez and was taken down after? He should have break the clinch and keep the distance, but no

scurlaruntings
06-15-2009, 11:16 AM
Every time iv seen Kongo manhandled his literally been tossed around like a rag doll. I mean this guy is a fine physical specimen but his feet must be made out of feathers. Plus he has those spindly legs like sticks and guys just shoot for a leg and he's already been smashed into the mat before you can blink.

socrates
06-15-2009, 11:43 AM
wheres outerdrakes avatar the fickle little weasel???

Rangersfan1982
06-15-2009, 04:54 PM
I was very surprised how easy he was controlled on the ground. Especially after dropping the guy.

OuterDrake
06-15-2009, 06:07 PM
if only Kongo had finish Cain with the knee during this combination.

He needs to pull back more and pick fighters off.

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québecwarrior
06-15-2009, 06:09 PM
Velasquez has a great fuckin chin and recvory skills

scurlaruntings
06-15-2009, 06:59 PM
He does but frankly the guy is nothing special and was begging to be KO'ed. Like iv always said that one dimension Kongo does posess which is his striking isnt that good at all. Matter of fact i think he's a shit striker. The guy is soooo robotic. He doesnt use his feet, is horrible at gauging distance, punches with no real torque and fights with no gameplan to speak of.

Club Fighter
06-15-2009, 10:01 PM
How much does that meathead weigh? He's always been manhandled and i dont get how a man who is 6ft 4 240lbs (apparently) can just get thrown around like a rag doll.

Apparently you're unacquainted with a little thing we like to call "technique."

AJAX
06-16-2009, 12:18 AM
Apparently you're unacquainted with a little thing we like to call "technique."

Exactly, Cain was a great wrestler in college and isn't exactly a small boy, outwrestling Kongo shouldn't be that big a surprise.

scurlaruntings
06-16-2009, 05:11 AM
Apparently you're unacquainted with a little thing we like to call "technique."Negative over. Kongo has been consistently manhandled in the UFC by VERY average wrestlers. 240lbs is a fair bit of weight but yet Kongo is tossed around the cage like he weighs a Buck O 5. Thats not technique thats just sheer brute force. :lol:

hopkinsfan07
06-16-2009, 05:43 AM
Kongo is a good kickboxer but he needs to work more and learn how to sprawl and get up. He should get in some training and get back better than ever. He is a huge man who really is underachieving in my opinion

rusty nails
06-16-2009, 06:46 AM
its not his strength its his balance.. hes too topheavy.. as soon as you get him over the balance point his upper body does all the rest of the work..

MaliSlamusrex
06-16-2009, 06:56 AM
Kongo can't improve he is as bad now as he has ever been, he needs a better coaching or even a 300lb guy to throw him around every day.

hopkinsfan07
06-18-2009, 04:51 AM
Kongo can't improve he is as bad now as he has ever been, he needs a better coaching or even a 300lb guy to throw him around every day.


anyone can improve

achillesthegreat
06-18-2009, 08:20 AM
He has a weak base/legs. Doesn't get a lower centre of gravity. His take down defence looks iffy. There are many reasons but you are right he gets thrown around like a rag down.

What happened to him recently was one of the most consistent take down, GNP performances we've seen in a while. Ortiz v Shamrock was in my head.

scurlaruntings
06-18-2009, 11:09 AM
His fight against Merroro was worse.

Wilhelm
06-18-2009, 11:36 AM
His fight against Merroro was worse.

Yeah, because Marraro had good technique and Kongo didn't. Just as others have said here, it has to do with his balance and is center of gravity and all sorts of other stuff that guys like Velasquez and Marrero and even Herring have been working on for years. 185 lb guys pick up and slam 185 lb guys all the time, so when a 240 lb guy picks up and slams another 240 lb guy I'm not sure what the mystery is.

Wilhelm
06-18-2009, 11:38 AM
if only Kongo had finish Cain with the knee during this combination.

He needs to pull back more and pick fighters off.

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If if if if if. Your guy got WORKED. He landed flush and then got planted, then landed flush and in the DUMBEST MOVE POSSIBLE went for a takedown. Are we done with all this "Kongo will be the next champ" crap?