Floyd Mayweather Jr. .Vs. Don Curry

[la-califa]

How would Mayweather do at 147 against the smooth boxing "Cobra"? 12 Rounds.

[Xplosive]

Not good. Curry would beat him clearly. Floyd at 147 doesnt have the power to keep Curry off him, therefore he wouldnt win.

[anarci]

Very interesting:think:huh

[punk]

This would be a very interesting fight but i think Curry outworks him for a points win.

[Titan1]

I think Curry outboxes Mayweather, and if this is the Curry of the McCrory fight, he coldcocks him in about three rounds, maybe less.

[Flea Man]

Floyds workrate is too low, and at mid-range Curry can land some sharp shots and keep him smart.

Floyd wouldn't even get in the ring with Curry anyway.

As it stands, at 147 Curry has the advantages.

[young griffo]

Floyds workrate is too low, and at mid-range Curry can land some sharp shots and keep him smart.

Floyd wouldn't even get in the ring with Curry anyway.

As it stands, at 147 Curry has the advantages.
Curry could agree to pre and post fight drug tests,a 75-25 purse split Floyd's way and a 10 minute before the fight weigh in and Mayweather would still find a way not to make the fight happen.

If by some miracle Floyd did step it up against Curry (highly unlikely given he kiboshed potential fights with Pacman,Margarito,Mosely etc) then as you said Curry has the speed,ability and combinations to outland the one-shot-at-a-time Mayweather for a unanimous decision.Floyd for all his faults (and they are legion) is one of the best defensive technicians you'll see so a Curry KO is doubtful.

[TBooze]

If Mayweather keeps it technical and very safe, avoiding any kind of shoot out, he has enough to win the closest of decisions.

Curry was a brilliant front runner at his best, but if you could keep it close early on, you had a chance.

[natonic]

Curry had the jab, speed, and length to force Mayweather to come off the back foot if he wanted to win. I think Mayweather would have to take chances he hasn't shown he's willing to take at 147. Curry by 3 or 4 rounds in a technical showcase.

[Sister Sledge]

I love Floyd as a fighter, but Curry was at the top of the food chain as far as fighters, go.

[CottoDaBodykill]

could you imagein if curry walked over and hit mayweather the same way he hit mcroy ?

[Shake]

Curry has to be a favorite to outbox Mayweather to a close UD.

[ThinBlack]

Not really a close fight, Donald sets the tone early, and after five rounds, scores a knockout of the overmatched Floyd.

[KOTF]

Floyd would rather eat Curry than take him on

[duranimal]

Curry all day every day.

[MAG1965]

Curry would be tough for Floyd. Although I don't think Curry would hit Floyd with that left hook he hit McCrory with. You know one thing about McCrory, he has a reach of only 73 inches. He was tall but a short reach. He was marketed as another Hearns, but Tommy had 78 1/2 inch reach.. Ray Leonard had 74 inch reach and Hagler 75.

[Sardu]

Curry would control the action and win a comprehensive decision.

[frankenfrank]

Curry could agree to pre and post fight drug tests,a 75-25 purse split Floyd's way and a 10 minute before the fight weigh in and Mayweather would still find a way not to make the fight happen.

Never .

If by some miracle Floyd did step it up against Curry (highly unlikely given he kiboshed potential fights with Pacman,Margarito,Mosely etc) then as you said Curry has the speed,ability and combinations to outland the one-shot-at-a-time Mayweather for a unanimous decision.Floyd for all his faults (and they are legion) is one of the best defensive technicians you'll see so a Curry KO is doubtful.

would B about as doubtful as a Curry decision .

[sweet_scientist]

Would be a close fight, but it's very difficult to beat Floyd by just punch picking and pot shotting, which Curry liked to do from the outside.

That's Mayweather's game and he is still very quick on the draw even at welterweight and does it better than almost anyone.

Someone like Starling would have busted Mayweather up though by getting in his face. I was pretty sure of that after the Hatton fight, I'm even more sure of that after the Cotto fight.

[Flea Man]

Curry still has the superior handspeed. He'd open Floyd up, and Mayweather would struggle more than Starling (2nd fight) to stay in there IMO.

If they're punch picking, Curry is going for it. Floyd is point scoring. Curry will pick Floyd's shots with his gloves (which he did well) and be more aggressive with his countering once he realises he's in there with a pace setter.

He had no worries pushing Starling around. Hard thing to do.

I agree Moochie matches up with Floyd even better. He'd batter him.

[Waynegrade]

Curry in his prime (albeit short) was a textbook boxer/puncher. I think he would be too complete a fighter for PBF to school. Also Curry at 147 had fight ending one punch power. PBF is a great fighter, my concerns about him against other all time greats is that at some point, your gifts(talent) aren`t enough. curry had the talnet, power and grot to get it done against PBF...

[SuzieQ49]

Donald Curry has to be one of the most overrated fighters on this board. Just look at their careers, Floyd is completely in another class. Honeyghan messed up Curry, can you imagine what Floyd would do to him?

[Flea Man]

When did Floyd fight like Honeyghan? And when does full resume give a definite account of who the superior fighter is?

Curry was at his best in the second Starling fight IMO, taking opponent and performance into account. It's certainly a more feasible stylistic comparison than The Ragamuffin Man is for Mayweather.

[PowerPuncher]

Donald Curry has to be one of the most overrated fighters on this board. Just look at their careers, Floyd is completely in another class. Honeyghan messed up Curry, can you imagine what Floyd would do to him?

Bad stylistic example again, no Curry isn't overrated he's very good as a technician and Honeyghan at his best is a beast of a technical pressure fighter. Floyd isn't fighting that way against this type of puncher

However I think Floyd could pull this one off, I'm not sure either way as Curry is bigger, but I think Floyd is quicker and overall more skilled

[Waynegrade]

Donald Curry has to be one of the most overrated fighters on this board. Just look at their careers, Floyd is completely in another class. Honeyghan messed up Curry, can you imagine what Floyd would do to him?
Brilliant ! Ask Marlon if Curry was overrated ... Then again, Starling is no Castillo, who BEAT PBF the firrst time...

[SuzieQ49]

Keep dreaming guys. Floyd would smoke Curry and Honeyghan in the same night. Floyd is an all time great fighter. Nor Curry and Honeyghan are even close to that.

[SuzieQ49]

Curry and Honeyghan were inconsistent underachievers whose fanbases vastly overrate them in their "prime". Neither had the skills to be able to cope with floyd.

[Lester1583]

I think Floyd is quicker

Is he?

[SuzieQ49]

Donald "the great" Curry

Lloyd "all time great" Honeyghan


:lol::lol::lol::patsch:patsch get outta here with this crap

[PowerPuncher]

Is he?

The 2006-7 version I'd certainly say so, better at disguising his shots, defensively and technically better too. Curry's got the much better firepower at the weight though

I was meaning to ask your id history as you certainly knew your stuff coming on here. PM if you feel the risk of being banned :good

Keep dreaming guys. Floyd would smoke Curry and Honeyghan in the same night. Floyd is an all time great fighter. Nor Curry and Honeyghan are even close to that.

I know you're young and aren't that familiar with the weight class or the 80s era but you're seriously embarrassing yourself now

And this is coming from someone often accused of being biased in favour of Floyd

[sweet_scientist]

Donald "the great" Curry

Lloyd "all time great" Honeyghan


:lol::lol::lol::patsch:patsch get outta here with this crap

Neither is great, but Floyd's not a great welterweight either.

[SuzieQ49]

I know you're young and aren't that familiar with the weight class or the 80s era but you're seriously embarrassing yourself now

I have my own two eyes. I've watched plenty of Curry and Honeyghan fights. Neither are close to Floyd.

[SuzieQ49]

I think you embarrased yourself enough the other day with the "Vernon Forrest beats Floyd Mayweather" :lol:

"Prime Mayorga he was soo adept...." shuuuuuut uppppp

[Waynegrade]

Hey pal, PBF couldn`t have carried Leonard and Hearns spit bucket... Be thankful that they are only using Curry as a potential matchup. By the way Einstein, Catsillo walked right through PBF`s booming powershots in the first fight... And you think he just plasy with Honeyghan ??? Plodding medium hitting Cotto, hits and bloodies PBF during thier fight. So sharper and harder hitting Curry won`t give PBF problems ?? Yep, you truly know your boxing... BTW, Hearns/Mayweather 3 rd KO for Hearns ! You really think that cute shoulder role and one punch pot-shotting will hold off the `Hitman` ??? You MUST agrre that PBF would NEVER sign to fight someone so dangeraous who could leave him on the canvas a quivering wreck...

[Waynegrade]

Donald Curry has to be one of the most overrated fighters on this board. Just look at their careers, Floyd is completely in another class. Honeyghan messed up Curry, can you imagine what Floyd would do to him?
Damn I forgot all about PBF`s frightening punching power !

[SuzieQ49]

Hearns was a lot better than Donald Curry. Don't put Curry up with him too now :patsch

Jeez is Curry overrated on this board :nut

[frankenfrank]

Vernon Forrest would have beaten Floyd @ 147 , Mayweather was no Mayorga and not as durable as Mosley . Mayweather wasn't even as hard a hitter as Mosley so Forrest could afford 2b more aggressive against him .
Floyd wouldn't have fought Mayorga nor Forrest during their prime even if he was a fully fledged 147/154 like he is 2day .
It doesn't take "D Hitman" 2 beat/stop welterweight/lightmiddleweight Floyd Mayweather . 4 those who consider 135lbs Floyd a more formidable force in his division , how about Jose Luis Ramirez ? what happens if Floyd becomes more aggressive than Pernell Whitaker ? i bet ppl here will pick him 2 beat Ramirez 2d punch then . Rosario deserved 2 lose their 1st fight and did indeed beat Ramirez 2d punch badly in their 2nd until Ramirez caught and finished him . Ramirez beat or embarassed every type of fighter , Floyd is somewhere in d middle of d scale , how does he fare ?

[SuzieQ49]

Vernon Forrest would have beaten Floyd @ 147 , Mayweather was no Mayorga

:lol:

[Waynegrade]

Hearns was a lot better than Donald Curry. Don't put Curry up with him too now :patsch

Jeez is Curry overrated on this board :nut
So tell me PBF fan how would power-puching defensive genius PBF deal with Hearns ? For the record, Hearns would have iced Curry too ! Damn, Mosley rocked PBF, kinda scary to think what Hearns would do :) I love how everyone ducks for cover when mentioning Hearns for PBF ! And for the record, NO ONE cherry picks at 147 than PBF !

[SuzieQ49]

So tell me PBF fan how would power-puching defensive genius PBF deal with Hearns ?

I never said he would. He would however, waste Donald Curry.

[nastynas]

Why is Floyd talked about like he's some feather fisted chump? You can always tell the people who throw reason out the window when it comes to Floyd.

At welterweight+:
Sharmba Mitchell- KO win
Ricky Hatton- KO win
Zab Judah- Decision, had him hurt late, hence that huge lowblow Judah landed
Baldomir- Decision, never had him hurt, iron-chinned
Mosley- Decision, had him hurt a couple times, iron-chinned
Ortiz- KO win
Cotto- Decision, had him hurt in the 12th round

is that really a resume of a featherfisted guy?

[DaveK]

I think Mayweather is vastly overrated... If Cotto can consistently land on Floyd, Curry could do better with his better handspeed, accuracy, and power.

Curry beats Floyd one way or another.

[DaveK]

Why is Floyd talked about like he's some feather fisted chump? You can always tell the people who throw reason out the window when it comes to Floyd.

At welterweight+:
Sharmba Mitchell- KO win
Ricky Hatton- KO win
Zab Judah- Decision, had him hurt late, hence that huge lowblow Judah landed
Baldomir- Decision, never had him hurt, iron-chinned
Mosley- Decision, had him hurt a couple times, iron-chinned
Ortiz- KO win
Cotto- Decision, had him hurt in the 12th round

is that really a resume of a featherfisted guy?

He stops his opponents, but he isn't a puncher. There's a difference.

It's also telling that this is a list of his opponents at welter...

[SuzieQ49]

I think Mayweather is vastly overrated... If Cotto can consistently land on Floyd, Curry could do better with his better handspeed, accuracy, and power.

So Donald Curry could beat the 2007 Floyd Mayweather? Or are we talking about the 35 year old Floyd Mayweather. If you want we could compare Floyd at 35 vs Donald at 35. It wouldn't be pretty. Rene Jacquot anyone? :lol:

[SuzieQ49]

It's also telling that this is a list of his opponents at welter...

That Donald Curry sure beat a slew of All Time Greats at 147 :patsch

[Lester1583]

I was meaning to ask your id history as you certainly knew your stuff coming on here. PM if you feel the risk of being banned :good

Thanks, PP:good

But there's no need for that.

This is my only id.

I just read classic forum a lot, have a good memory, seen a few fights and boxed a bit myself.

The 2006-7 version I'd certainly say so, better at disguising his shots, defensively and technically better too. Curry's got the much better firepower at the weight though

Actually I'm not sure welter Floyd is faster - Curry was very quick with single shots.
McCrory's left hook knockdown is still one the fastest left hooks ever thrown.

Defensively Floyd is better.

Curry in his short prime was almost complete fighter though - very good textbook technician without any glaring flaws.

It seemed like Curry was troubled (weight problems aside) by Honeyghan's awkward aggression.

Floyd fights nothing like that.

He'd try to outpotshot hard punching sharp shooter - tough task.

I recall you gave Forrest pretty good chance at beating Floyd.

The jab is the key, right?


By the way who's tougher fight for Floyd - Curry or Ragamuffin'?;)

[DaveK]

That Donald Curry sure beat a slew of All Time Greats at 147 :patsch


You miss my point, and I think it was deliberate.

The point was that this is the resume Floyd is basing his "greatness" from, when in 2007, there were a handful of fighters he could have fought and proved it. He could have beaten every one of 'em, but he didn't. He found a way to fight everyone, ANYONE else but the young, hungry, dangerous guys.

On the flip side, Curry fought the tough fights. His opposition was better. He didn't shy away from challenges.

[Flea Man]

Is he?

Agreed. Not at 147 he isn't.

[Waynegrade]

PBF has some pop in his shots but he`s not even close to SRL and don`t even mention him any where close to Hearns. And besides, aren`t we talking about PBF`s power at 147 ?Stinging a very well worn Mosely doesn`t count. Hatton and Judah, chins are a big ? Especially at 147. PBF would not even tickle Curry, Hearns or SRL at 147,bet on it...Where as the left hook that did in McCrory, might give PBF some trouble...

[Waynegrade]

And hey I liked PBF early on, he was a beast and fought some tough ones early on. But, come on at 147 ???????

[Waynegrade]

Thanks, PP:good

But there's no need for that.

This is my only id.

I just read classic forum a lot, have a good memory, seen a few fights and boxed a bit myself.



Actually I'm not sure welter Floyd is faster - Curry was very quick with single shots.
McCrory's left hook knockdown is still one the fastest left hooks ever thrown.

Defensively Floyd is better.

Curry in his short prime was almost complete fighter though - very good textbook technician without any glaring flaws.

It seemed like Curry was troubled (weight problems aside) by Honeyghan's awkward aggression.

Floyd fights nothing like that.

He'd try to outpotshot hard punching sharp shooter - tough task.

I recall you gave Forrest pretty good chance at beating Floyd.

The jab is the key, right?


By the way who's tougher fight for Floyd - Curry or Ragamuffin'?;)
Good post !

[Lester1583]

Good post !

Thanks, mate.

[biglemon]

Curry has what it takes so he would be the favirote for me, but I wouldnt be suprised if Floyd pulled out a close decision, the fact floyd was a featherweight and we match him up vs great natural welters and he has a realistic chance of winning alot of these fights says something.

[SuzieQ49]

The point was that this is the resume Floyd is basing his "greatness" from, when in 2007, there were a handful of fighters he could have fought and proved it. He could have beaten every one of 'em, but he didn't. He found a way to fight everyone, ANYONE else but the young, hungry, dangerous guys.


Victor Ortiz? The most dangerous young puncher in the division? A guy who was coming off a big win over young hungry undefeated welterweight champion Andre Berto?

there were a handful of fighters he could have fought and proved it.

Who might they be?

Antonio Margarito? The guy who got utterly destroyed by Shane Mosley(whom Mayweather won a wide UD)

Paul Williams? moved up to 154-160lb.

Miguel Cotto?(whom Mayweather just beat by UD)

Joshua Clottey? Lost to everyone

Andre Berto?(lost to Ortiz whom Mayweather knocked out)



The only guy I will give you is Pacman. That fight should happen.

[DaveK]

Victor Ortiz? The most dangerous young puncher in the division? A guy who was coming off a big win over young hungry undefeated welterweight champion Andre Berto?



Who might they be?

Antonio Margarito? The guy who got utterly destroyed by Shane Mosley(whom Mayweather won a wide UD)

Paul Williams? moved up to 154-160lb.

Miguel Cotto?(whom Mayweather just beat by UD)

Joshua Clottey? Lost to everyone

Andre Berto?(lost to Ortiz whom Mayweather knocked out)



The only guy I will give you is Pacman. That fight should happen.


Ortiz was a calculated move; he was young and hungry, but I was referring to the 2007 Mayweather, like you wanted to use in your argument... You keep jumping back and forth to suit your argument, so which is it?

And yes, Cotto, who at the time they should have fought, was much more dangerous than the version from last week.

Yes, Margarito, who Mayweather wouldn't go near. So what if he lost to Mosley? He probably would have lost to Mayweather, but the fact is that Floyd didn't fight him.

That brings up a guy you left off your list, Mosley, and not the totally shot version you wished to use for your argument. The Mosley from 5 or 6 years ago was tons better and would have been a legitimately dangerous fight for Floyd.

Williams would have made 147 for a Floyd fight 5 or 6 years ago, easy.

Clottey and Berto are in the Ortiz basket; young, unproven/untested, but it doesn't matter, because Floyd never fought them!

[PowerPuncher]

Thanks, PP:good

But there's no need for that.

This is my only id.

I just read classic forum a lot, have a good memory, seen a few fights and boxed a bit myself.



Actually I'm not sure welter Floyd is faster - Curry was very quick with single shots.
McCrory's left hook knockdown is still one the fastest left hooks ever thrown.

Defensively Floyd is better.

Curry in his short prime was almost complete fighter though - very good textbook technician without any glaring flaws.

It seemed like Curry was troubled (weight problems aside) by Honeyghan's awkward aggression.

Floyd fights nothing like that.

He'd try to outpotshot hard punching sharp shooter - tough task.

I recall you gave Forrest pretty good chance at beating Floyd.

The jab is the key, right?


By the way who's tougher fight for Floyd - Curry or Ragamuffin'?;)

Curry was quick but I'd still stick by Mayweather being the quicker. I used to rate handspeed just on the speed of the hands. But it's as much about reacting to openings as the actual hands and not giving any signs telegraph, which is a particular strength of Floyd, more so than his raw speed of hand. Floyd from late 05-07 is also considerably quicker than 09 onwards.

I think Forrest is a stylistic problem because of his range/speed/jab, general outboxer qualities.

Curry unlike Forrest often gives up his height and prefers to look for powershots, with his mid range hooks and overhands. Harder punches to land and control fights with. Mayweather also doesn't have left hooks land on him very often, jabs and rights yes but not Curry's favourite punch. His wider stance and stoop give up his height advantage and his somewhat slower feet make him easier to land on by a quick sharpshooter.

Now I by no means outright pick Mayweather because Curry has the speed to land and the power to break him down or stop him. What we have is a bull metador scenario and Floyd every bit the metador in this match up. Having said that Curry would be far and away the best technician Mayweather would share a ring with

Tougher fight for Floyd? Good question, they both are very tough fights and imo better than anyone he's been in with 147 and above or at all for that matter, I rate them both very highly H2H but maybe Curry with his technical ability, speed, power combined with the pressure. Both underrated by the likes of SuzieQ due to their short primes and the lack of fashion of their era


Ortiz was a calculated move; he was young and hungry, but I was referring to the 2007 Mayweather, like you wanted to use in your argument... You keep jumping back and forth to suit your argument, so which is it?

And yes, Cotto, who at the time they should have fought, was much more dangerous than the version from last week.

Yes, Margarito, who Mayweather wouldn't go near. So what if he lost to Mosley? He probably would have lost to Mayweather, but the fact is that Floyd didn't fight him.

That brings up a guy you left off your list, Mosley, and not the totally shot version you wished to use for your argument. The Mosley from 5 or 6 years ago was tons better and would have been a legitimately dangerous fight for Floyd.

Williams would have made 147 for a Floyd fight 5 or 6 years ago, easy.

Clottey and Berto are in the Ortiz basket; young, unproven/untested, but it doesn't matter, because Floyd never fought them!

Cotto wasn't better 4years ago, he's tightened up his defence and come to the level where he can beat Margarito, Cotto has been 160lbs in the ring since '05, so obviously he is stronger at the 154 weight class, where as Floyd is not. The fight was signed as soon as Cotto left Arum, Arum is clearly a major issue in whether fights are made or not

Mosley turned the fight down in 06 (citing vacation/dental work) and 00. Margarito turned the fight down in '06 when Judah lost to Baldomir. Then Arum offered a 21million contract to fight Margarito/Cotto/Hatton, Arum ruled out a Delahoya fight citing 'my cut would be too small'. Mayweather turned it down buying out his contract to make the Baldomir fight (5million), Delahoya (25million) and Hatton (around 20million). So made twice as much money by not signing with Arum

Williams pressure would be a problem, and the risk reward certainly did add up, but after seeing him

DLH of '07> Mosley/Cotto/Margarito ability wise. Floyd does work on the risk reward scale but generally will make the big money fights.

[lufcrazy]

Such a tough call.

Both guys look exceptional whilst seemingly not reaching their ww potential.

Curry on his best night was brilliant but i'm not sure if he was any better than floyd on his best night. Floyd is certainly more consistent and better at adapting his gameplan.

I think floyd could beat curry to the punch here and finish stronger down the stretch.

Close points win by floyd I think.

[Vantage_West]

Donald Curry has to be one of the most overrated fighters on this board. Just look at their careers, Floyd is completely in another class. Honeyghan messed up Curry, can you imagine what Floyd would do to him?
no he isnt overated. it's just a bad fight for floyd to take.


as someone already said. forrest beat mosley eaisly twice but that doesnt mean he is the better fighter in general...yah semme?

[Waynegrade]

Such a tough call.

Both guys look exceptional whilst seemingly not reaching their ww potential.

Curry on his best night was brilliant but i'm not sure if he was any better than floyd on his best night. Floyd is certainly more consistent and better at adapting his gameplan.

I think floyd could beat curry to the punch here and finish stronger down the stretch.

Close points win by floyd I think.
You always have good posts, and back up your points with sound arguements. Do we think it`s possible that the Curry of the McCrory fights shows up and finds a home for THAT left hook ?

[sweet_scientist]

Cotto wasn't better 4years ago, he's tightened up his defence and come to the level where he can beat Margarito

Had that been the same Margarito of the first fight, Cotto would have lost again.

[SuzieQ49]

Had that been the same Margarito of the first fight, Cotto would have lost again.

:roll:

You mean the version of Margarito with bricks in his gloves?

[biglemon]

Had that been the same Margarito of the first fight, Cotto would have lost again.

Without question, and no Margarito wasnt loaded for that fight.

[SuzieQ49]

Excuses, Excuses. Cotto improved, that is why he kicked the same Margarito's ass in the rematch.

[SuzieQ49]

Without question, and no Margarito wasnt loaded for that fight.

:lol:

[biglemon]

:lol:

There is absolutely no evidence that he used anything illegal, infact the 'infamous wraps' from the Mosley fight were found only to contain certain substances used to make plaster of paris.

[lufcrazy]

You always have good posts, and back up your points with sound arguements. Do we think it`s possible that the Curry of the McCrory fights shows up and finds a home for THAT left hook ?

Thank you :good

Anything in boxing is possible but floyd has one of the tightest defences in history and it isn't overly reliant on reflex.

Curry could catch floyd cold, but I highly doubt it.