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québecwarrior
06-15-2009, 05:57 PM
Who of these two is the best physical beast? Whos the most athletic?


When they were at their best. Who was the best athlete, in your opinion.

196osh
06-15-2009, 06:05 PM
I have not seen a great deal of Karelin. But Tyson may be as an atheltic specimen one of the best I have ever seen.

So from what I have seen Tyson.

scurlaruntings
06-15-2009, 07:07 PM
Karelin was an awesome physical specimen in stature alone. BUT Tyson is by far the most unique talent iv ever seen in boxing. In never seen a mixture of such raw power with speed precision coordination and pure inate talent as a young Mike. Mike wins this for me.

avk47
06-15-2009, 07:48 PM
Yeah, but there was similarly never a talent like Karelin in wrestling - in fact, he was a lot more dominant than Tyson at his respective sport. Problem is, its more exciting Tyson's dominance at boxing than Karelin's at wrestling because of boxing's general awesomeness.

ufoalf
06-15-2009, 11:26 PM
Physical speciment and athleticism? It's gota be Karelin by far.

BITCH ASS
06-16-2009, 12:00 PM
Well basically it breaks down to this. Barely anybody is into that Greco shit.

socrates
06-16-2009, 12:09 PM
Well basically it breaks down to this. Barely anybody is into that Greco shit.which is like saying barely anyone is into radiohead because pop idol is where its at baby!!

generally the mainstream is full of mediawhores and stupid people who think that anything without bright lights and a budweiser advert every 5 minutes is not worth mentioning,hahahaha

id rather look up a karelin highlight or documentary on youtube than sit through a hopkins or mayweather press conference/fight and have to listen and watch these morons pass themselves of as the greatest thing since sliced bread following a 12 round sparring session with baldomir or a hug n hold fest!!

godking
06-16-2009, 12:13 PM
Who of these two is the best physical beast? Whos the most athletic?


When they were at their best. Who was the best athlete, in your opinion.Today i say Tyson Tommorow i will say Karelin Both are one in a million athletes. You will never see such pure physical talent again in your lifetime.

Rocky
06-16-2009, 01:31 PM
which is like saying barely anyone is into radiohead because pop idol is where its at baby!!

generally the mainstream is full of mediawhores and stupid people who think that anything without bright lights and a budweiser advert every 5 minutes is not worth mentioning,hahahaha

id rather look up a karelin highlight or documentary on youtube than sit through a hopkins or mayweather press conference/fight and have to listen and watch these morons pass themselves of as the greatest thing since sliced bread following a 12 round sparring session with baldomir or a hug n hold fest!!


Haha what a post man :thumbsup

BITCH ASS
06-16-2009, 01:43 PM
which is like saying barely anyone is into radiohead because pop idol is where its at baby!!

generally the mainstream is full of mediawhores and stupid people who think that anything without bright lights and a budweiser advert every 5 minutes is not worth mentioning,hahahaha

id rather look up a karelin highlight or documentary on youtube than sit through a hopkins or mayweather press conference/fight and have to listen and watch these morons pass themselves of as the greatest thing since sliced bread following a 12 round sparring session with baldomir or a hug n hold fest!!

What does this have to do with Tyson?

Look, if you got 2 people out of 100,000 that want to do Greco, and the guy that beat him was a out of shape lookin hillbilly with an incomplete hand, maybe Karelin wasn't that great of an athletic specimin.

Just a thought.

Besides, mother fucker came out of the Soviet Era, so it's likely he was unnatural anyway.

Dave_JR
06-16-2009, 02:55 PM
Hahaha yeh and Tyson was natural!!

karatekid530
06-16-2009, 05:42 PM
What does this have to do with Tyson?

Look, if you got 2 people out of 100,000 that want to do Greco, and the guy that beat him was a out of shape lookin hillbilly with an incomplete hand, maybe Karelin wasn't that great of an athletic specimin.

Just a thought.

Besides, mother fucker came out of the Soviet Era, so it's likely he was unnatural anyway.

it doesn't matter if you like greco or not, do you know that guy's stats? karelin takes this for me but only just barely. tyson was a treat to watch but karelin was a monster in his sport.

Rattler
06-16-2009, 05:56 PM
It's very close.

They both saw their dominance taken away by a pudgy dude with man tits.

BITCH ASS
06-16-2009, 06:01 PM
Tyson could play a skill position in football.....Karelin would play O line. That's the difference.

ufoalf
06-16-2009, 06:16 PM
...and the guy that beat him was a out of shape lookin hillbilly with an incomplete hand, maybe Karelin wasn't that great of an athletic specimin.


Or you just know jack shit about Greco roman rules and circumstances :good

BITCH ASS
06-16-2009, 06:18 PM
Or you just know jack shit about Greco roman rules and circumstances :good

He's the better "athlete?" Not who was the most dominant at their sport.

Think about it.

Rattler
06-16-2009, 06:20 PM
He's the better "athlete?" Not who was the most dominant at their sport.

Think about it.

Funny... I never saw Karelin quit in a match. Happened a few times with Tyson. What kind of real athlete quits when it gets tough?

scurlaruntings
06-16-2009, 06:28 PM
Hahaha yeh and Tyson was natural!!Yeah ha ha he was. Yeah ha ha he was 200lbs at 13. Ha ha much like Karelin who was a 13lb baby. But guess what ha ha Russian atheletes were eating steroids like skittles during the 70's so its not entirely of question considering ha ha Karelin was 6ft 4 and 300lbs of solid muscle ha ha. A physical stature so large to the point of being impossible HA HA.

Scorpion
06-16-2009, 06:28 PM
Funny... I never saw Karelin quit in a match. Happened a few times with Tyson. What kind of real athlete quits when it gets tough?

One where you get the living shit beat out of you round after round..

Rattler
06-16-2009, 06:54 PM
One where you get the living shit beat out of you round after round..

Yeah, obviously Tyson was on his last legs when he nibbled on Holyfield's ears.

Goose
06-16-2009, 08:34 PM
they both are great, i dont know how you can measure something like that

SouthpawSlayer
06-16-2009, 08:56 PM
tyson

BITCH ASS
06-17-2009, 02:39 PM
Why am I not suprised many are descrediting Karelin for using AAS. The earstwhile accusations of Soviet athletes having to rely on performance enhancers to effectively compete.

Here is a newsflash for ya. The IOC has busted more U.S. athletes for banned substances than U.S.S.R./Russian Federation athletes since inception of testing protocols.

In addition: The same people claiming Tyson was such a superior athlete, would no doubt make the same claim about any BLACK athlete. This is nothing more than ignorant reverse biggotry, cloaked under the guise of a popularity contest.

Perhaps now I can once again get snitch bitched off to the admins for "raceism". Relegating myself to joining with an even more ridiculous screen-name.

You're the one with racist tendencies. I never once mentioned race, yet in another thread you assumed you not only knew what "race" I was, but where I was from and my particular upbringing.

I can assure you that me picking Tyson has nothing to do with his "race."

Karelikin was a very good athlete, and would probably unquestionably, depending on his height at least, be able to play an offensive lineman position on an NFL team due to his immense upper body strength and balance.

But that's all speculation.

Speculation regarding Tyson, in my own opinion, judging by how I've seen him perform in the ring and in training, would lead me to believe that he's the more well rounded athelete and would be better suited to play a skill position in the NFL such as Running Back, which means that he's probably faster than Karkelin, more agile, has more stamina, but probably not as strong.

To me that's a better athlete.

But that's just opinion based off of speculation, but you're speculating too.

Again though, you are the one that's being racist. You should look in the mirror before accusing others.

ufoalf
06-17-2009, 10:16 PM
In all seriousness: Why do so many people feel that an NFL running back is the pinnacle of athleticism?


Annoys the shit out of me.

OuterDrake
06-17-2009, 10:25 PM
most wrestlers use roids