Boxing Vs UFC

[RealBoxing]

Mercer is about 50 years old....HAHAHAHHA:yep:yep


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[Jeff Young]

fuck ufc, grown men fondling eachother that is not fighting....

[RealBoxing]

fuck ufc, grown men fondling eachother that is not fighting....

I agree...That's why im glad this old man Mercer Ktfo Sylvia.....LOL:yep:yep

[Punisher33]

Mercer certainly redeemed himself after losing to Kimbo last year. Boxing can stand proud once again, thanks to Ray Mercer.

[Saints Fan]

Too much crotch fondling and mounting for me....

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

And a young, prime Matt Skelton was completely embarrassed by a second rate MMA fighter. Just as Mercer was embarrassed by a street fighter in Kimbo. I wouldn't be bragging too much about Mercer knocking out a pathetic, unskilled Tim Sylvia. There isn't a person on this message board who is a bigger boxing fan than I am. However, let's be realistic and call it how it is. Boxing is an extremely limited fighting sport. In fact, it's the most limited of all the fighting sports in the world. Boxing is just a small part of fighting.

[charlievint]

I don't necessarily like the UFC but I love MMA. I love boxing more but you get good fights in both sports. You all sell yourselves short if you don't watch some good MMA fights. Its not like every boxing card is full of great action or fights either. They both have a lot to offer "fight fans". You all need to stop with all this boxing vs MMA shit....that's like saying you don't like Football or Basketball b/c you have a preference for the other.

[FrochPascal]

and a young, prime matt skelton was completely embarrassed by a second rate mma fighter. Just as mercer was embarrassed by a street fighter in kimbo. I wouldn't be bragging too much about mercer knocking out a pathetic, unskilled tim sylvia. There isn't a person on this message board who is a bigger boxing fan than i am. however, let's be realistic and call it how it is. Boxing is an extremely limited fighting sport. In fact, it's the most limited of all the fighting sports in the world. Boxing is just a small part of fighting.


fail.

[la-pantera]

im a fan of both sports. i loved seeing guys like robbie lawler and scott smith go balls out twice. one of my favorite mma fights. but then again you cant forget the marquez/vasquez trilogy. both sports have their ups and downs... more ups though in my opinion.

one question.. where did mercer's punch connect? i couldnt tell if it was the chin or body.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

fail.
What I said is 100% truth. The difference between you and I, is that not only do I have first hand experience... but that I also don't let my love for boxing blind my common sense.

[RealBoxing]

im a fan of both sports. i loved seeing guys like robbie lawler and scott smith go balls out twice. one of my favorite mma fights. but then again you cant forget the marquez/vasquez trilogy. both sports have their ups and downs... more ups though in my opinion.

one question.. where did mercer's punch connect? i couldnt tell if it was the chin or body.

Hard to tell but by the angle of the punch it looks like its right on the chin for a lights out.

[BremnerBomber]

mercer is about 50 years old....hahahahha:yep:yep


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ttttiiiiiiiimmmmmbbbbbeeeeerrrrr !!!!!!!

Mma sucks

[FrochPascal]

When a man is down you cannot hit him when two warriors fight. Why in certain other sports do i have to then see men mount eachother and do all the other crap.

[Lewisbell]

There appears to be an actual TV camera there, I would like to see the other perspective

[MancMexican]

Boxing KO1 UFC

[doubleplaidinum]

And a young, prime Matt Skelton was completely embarrassed by a second rate MMA fighter. Just as Mercer was embarrassed by a street fighter in Kimbo. I wouldn't be bragging too much about Mercer knocking out a pathetic, unskilled Tim Sylvia. There isn't a person on this message board who is a bigger boxing fan than I am. However, let's be realistic and call it how it is. Boxing is an extremely limited fighting sport. In fact, it's the most limited of all the fighting sports in the world. Boxing is just a small part of fighting.

i dont really agree with this. if you have good takedown defense you can be a straight boxer and do extremely well in mma. you just need a little knowledge of what you're getting into in the way of muay thai and jiu jitsu to keep those styles at bay. if you are a solid, talented boxer you can stand up with anyone and more times than not you will win. the problem is dealing with takedowns and guys who can wrestle/roll. its all about being a good boxer and knowing how to defend against the other shit... it doesnt hurt to know how to throw knees and elbows for your inside game too, but its not absolutely necessary.

[Brendan]

Like we all don't realise that if Sylvia were smart enough to not try and stand with Mercer, he'd have him submitted in about 30 seconds every time.

Tim's a complete idiot.

[dhralf]

What I said is 100% truth. The difference between you and I, is that not only do I have first hand experience... but that I also don't let my love for boxing blind my common sense.


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[Pimp C]

UFC sucks and they aren't world class athelets. These guys are WWF washouts and ex college wrestlers and local wanna be tough guys with no skills they get a couple of tattoos and mohawks and people think they're badasses. It really shows you how gulliable some people really are who buy into this bullshit. If a guy with little to no experience like a 50 year old Mercer is able to dominate a former HW champ of the UFC that easily then you're not worldclass. :dealYou would never see Silva come to boxing and beat an ex HW champ in a boxing match with little to no experience it just wouldn't happen in boxing but can happen in MMA because these guys are bums. I don't ever want to hear again that MMA > boxing. If a guy like a prime Mike Tyson fought in the UFC he would be a terror and beat the shit outta everyone there easily with little or no training.:deal

[Pimp C]

Once again, some gems from EBS mascot, Widdow Makker...
And delusional Oscarsexual:-(

[catasyou]

Fuck UFC.

Kudos to Mercer for destroying that glass jawed bitch Sylvia.9 fucking seconds.

[gasman]

UFC has more similarities with the earliest form of boxing (pre-prizefights)...with all the wrestling and shit...

[Pimp C]

Any boxer with quick feet, fast hands and average power would own these bums. A prime Tyson would KO anyone currently in the UFC in 10 seconds or less.:deal These glass jawed bums are a cruel joke and their fans are even worse.

[Vitor Belfort]

Tims Sylvia is an idiot for trying to strike with a former boxing heavyweight champion. He should have tried to take him down like kimbo did and beat his azz on the ground. With that said im glad his big goofy azz got knockout. :rofl

[JM22]

Fuck UFC.:dead

[doubleplaidinum]

Any boxer with quick feet, fast hands and average power would own these bums. A prime Tyson would KO anyone currently in the UFC in 10 seconds or less.:deal These glass jawed bums are a cruel joke and their fans are even worse.

yup.

[Pimp C]

This needs to be moved back to the regular boxing forum. No one reads it here.

[TerryESB]

Tim Sylvia has become the biggest joke in MMA history.He has set the sport back 10 years alone. Well, done.

I remember reading about this and expected Sylvia to defeat Mercer early. I seen what Kimbo, a street fighter did to Mercer.

[JM22]

Any boxer with quick feet, fast hands and average power would own these bums. A prime Tyson would KO anyone currently in the UFC in 10 seconds or less.:deal These glass jawed bums are a cruel joke and their fans are even worse.:yep

[comeback1]

And a young, prime Matt Skelton was completely embarrassed by a second rate MMA fighter. Just as Mercer was embarrassed by a street fighter in Kimbo. I wouldn't be bragging too much about Mercer knocking out a pathetic, unskilled Tim Sylvia. There isn't a person on this message board who is a bigger boxing fan than I am. However, let's be realistic and call it how it is. Boxing is an extremely limited fighting sport. In fact, it's the most limited of all the fighting sports in the world. Boxing is just a small part of fighting.


I boxed a few fights professionally but nothing more than six rounds. Alot of MMA guys pretty much stand up and strike a for a whole fight. Chuck dominated for years doing this and I would like to think any decent pro boxer would eat Chuck for breakfast.

[Tampa Nights]

I think MMA has tremendous potential, but I hate how it's marketed. Way too WWE -like. Every time I watch it, each fighter's talking smack, and not even interesting smack. It also looks bad to me for UFC that it's HW Champ is a former WWE guy and football washout. The best boxers aren't guys who came on the scene 5 minutes ago from baseball or some other sport. How prestigous can a title be if a guy holding it has been in the sport about 3 years? Boxers are, generally speaking, much better at boxing than most MMA guys are at MMA.

I kinda liked the earlier days of MMA where guys who were dedicated specialists in their resepctive skills were the top and that was the whole dynamic, analyzing these interesting karate vs mui thai type matchups. Now it's jacks of all trades, and usually master at none.

Fedor is the truth. There's lots more that I would pay good money to see. Once they work out some kinks, it'll be much better. It's grown on me.

[BITCH ASS]

This needs to be moved back to the regular boxing forum. No one reads it here.

Get in on my Tim Slyvia appreciation thread in the MMA forum.

[renyo]

You can't compare two different sports. I love boxing, don't really watch mma due to the hugging and grappling. It's like football and baseball you can have some crossover guys but for the most part it's way different training.

[Pimp C]

I boxed a few fights professionally but nothing more than six rounds. Alot of MMA guys pretty much stand up and strike a for a whole fight. Chuck dominated for years doing this and I would like to think any decent pro boxer would eat Chuck for breakfast.
Exactly if a crude and limited bum like Lidell was able to dominate then a club fighter could as well. I think in a few years you'll find alot more boxing washouts will go into UFC and have success. The only thing they need to learn is takedown defense.

[Zakman]

This needs to be moved back to the regular boxing forum. No one reads it here.

This crap doesn't belong anywhere near regular boxing. It's bad enough it has infested our sport as much as it has. :-(

What a joke this garbage is. Mercer showed it too! He's BEYOND washed up and he took out one of these glass-jawed bums in 9 seconds!!:rofl:rofl

[Kaki]

Boxing is an extremely limited fighting sport. In fact, it's the most limited of all the fighting sports in the world. Boxing is just a small part of fighting.

limited? perhaps. but it is extremely refined striking. and much more pleasing to the eye than a UFC fight. boxing doesn't try to emulate a street fight. it's a sport.

but kickboxing/k-1 is awesome

[Pimp C]

This crap doesn't belong anywhere near regular boxing. It's bad enough it has infested our sport as much as it has. :-(

What a joke this garbage is. Mercer showed it too! He's BEYOND washed up and he took out one of these glass-jawed bums in 9 seconds!!:rofl:rofl
I agree I just wanted it there so we could bash the hell out of the UFC and get a good laugh at its expense.:yep Thank You Ray Mercer for making these glass jawed bums see the light he should get inducted into the boxing HOF for this alone.:rofl Boxing > UFC

[Pimp C]

limited? perhaps. but it is extremely refined. and much more pleasing to the eye than a UFC fight. boxing doesn't try to emulate a street fight. it's a sport.

but kickboxing/k-1 is awesome
Not to mention you can't come in off the street with little or no expericence and become a world champ in boxing but you can in the UFC that right there tells you everything you need to know about this so-called sport.:deal

[Sean101]

Boxing KO1 UFC

:deal

[rydersonthestorm]

When a man is down you cannot hit him when two warriors fight. Why in certain other sports do i have to then see men mount eachother and do all the other crap.
You fail at life:patsch

[rydersonthestorm]

Not to mention you can't come in off the street with little or no expericence and become a world champ in boxing but you can in the UFC that right there tells you everything you need to know about this so-called sport.:deal
So who has done that?? get a fucking clue:patsch

[Punisher33]

Pimp C is telling it like it is on this thread.

I'm not saying I'm anything special or that in the boxing ring, but I competed in some golden glove tournaments when I was in my teens and finished with a good record when I stopped fighting competitively when I turned 20. I currently spar with 2 guys who have had MMA fights and go to ohio for them. I will say this much, both Ron and Bob have amazing stamina, and would of out winded me in my prime years of boxing. Though these guys cant take a punch to save there lives, we use 16 oz gloves to spar. And it seemed anytime I would put my weight behind a punch, they either got rocked or took a knee. It was pretty sad IMO, when I asked Bob "Dont you guy's take punches in sparring?" He replied "Yeah, but the guys we work with dont punch like that".

I been working with both guys for a couple years now, the one is has a pretty decent record , the other is like 0-3 and seems like he cant catch a break in his matches. Overall there stamina is amazing, but there punch resistence is down right terrible and almost made me want to jump into MMA fighting without anything but a boxing background, thinking with 4 oz gloves I would knockout alot of these guys before they would get me into any type of weird holds. I dont know, after going to a few of their tournaments and watching not only them first hand, but other fighters matches. I believe alot of boxers would do well in MMA action, thats just my opinion though.

[BITCH ASS]

You fail at life:patsch

You fail at fighting like a hetrosexual.

[FINITO]

UFC is for fags period.

[rydersonthestorm]

You fail at fighting like a hetrosexual.
you are a fag and a fucking idiot:-(:verysad

[rydersonthestorm]

Pimp C is telling it like it is on this thread.

I'm not saying I'm anything special or that in the boxing ring, but I competed in some golden glove tournaments when I was in my teens and finished with a good record when I stopped fighting competitively when I turned 20. I currently spar with 2 guys who have had MMA fights and go to ohio for them. I will say this much, both Ron and Bob have amazing stamina, and would of out winded me in my prime years of boxing. Though these guys cant take a punch to save there lives, we use 16 oz gloves to spar. And it seemed anytime I would put my weight behind a punch, they either got rocked or took a knee. It was pretty sad IMO, when I asked Bob "Dont you guy's take punches in sparring?" He replied "Yeah, but the guys we work with dont punch like that".

I been working with both guys for a couple years now, the one is has a pretty decent record , the other is like 0-3 and seems like he cant catch a break in his matches. Overall there stamina is amazing, but there punch resistence is down right terrible and almost made me want to jump into MMA fighting without anything but a boxing background, thinking with 4 oz gloves I would knockout alot of these guys before they would get me into any type of weird holds. I dont know, after going to a few of their tournaments and watching not only them first hand, but other fighters matches. I believe alot of boxers would do well in MMA action, thats just my opinion though.
It doesn't work like that at all those guys must just suck, boxers can't do shit other than land one big punch against and mma fighter. An example in a full fight with rules or none fedor would fuck up any heavyweight boxer in hisotory at least 7 out of 10 times

[BITCH ASS]

It doesn't work like that at all those guys must just suck, boxers can't do shit other than land one big punch against and mma fighter. An example in a full fight with rules or none fedor would fuck up any heavyweight boxer in hisotory at least 7 out of 10 times


Translation: :| Ima GAY

[Pimp C]

Pimp C is telling it like it is on this thread.

I'm not saying I'm anything special or that in the boxing ring, but I competed in some golden glove tournaments when I was in my teens and finished with a good record when I stopped fighting competitively when I turned 20. I currently spar with 2 guys who have had MMA fights and go to ohio for them. I will say this much, both Ron and Bob have amazing stamina, and would of out winded me in my prime years of boxing. Though these guys cant take a punch to save there lives, we use 16 oz gloves to spar. And it seemed anytime I would put my weight behind a punch, they either got rocked or took a knee. It was pretty sad IMO, when I asked Bob "Dont you guy's take punches in sparring?" He replied "Yeah, but the guys we work with dont punch like that".

I been working with both guys for a couple years now, the one is has a pretty decent record , the other is like 0-3 and seems like he cant catch a break in his matches. Overall there stamina is amazing, but there punch resistence is down right terrible and almost made me want to jump into MMA fighting without anything but a boxing background, thinking with 4 oz gloves I would knockout alot of these guys before they would get me into any type of weird holds. I dont know, after going to a few of their tournaments and watching not only them first hand, but other fighters matches. I believe alot of boxers would do well in MMA action, thats just my opinion though.
Excellent post. I say take it up and kick some asses while you're at it.:good It's a well known fact that these guys can't take a punch hell even arm punches have knocked some of their best fighters out cold.:yep

[BITCH ASS]

you are a fag and a fucking idiot:-(:verysad

Did you or did you not say to some guy that he fails at life for not wantin to get into a sexual position with a man?

You did right?

And you're callin me gay?

I think you got things mixed up....where you from? Anyway, gay means you are a dude into dudes.

You are gay

[rydersonthestorm]

Translation: :| Ima GAY
Translation axe man is a pussy who can't fight for shit and cry's like a little bitch when he is wrong.:deal

[Zakman]

I agree I just wanted it there so we could bash the hell out of the UFC and get a good laugh at its expense.:yep Thank You Ray Mercer for making these glass jawed bums see the light he should get inducted into the boxing HOF for this alone.:rofl Boxing > UFC

Well, this area and the MMA area are for non-boxing subjects, which this most definitely is. UFC has NOTHING to do with the Sweet Science, and the association of our fine sport with this garbage degrades it.

I wish this crap would all just crawl back under the rock where it came from. Maybe Mercer's destroying this bum is the beginning of the end.

[BITCH ASS]

Translation axe man is a pussy who can't fight for shit and cry's like a little bitch when he is wrong.:deal

Yo, if fightin to you is takin your shirts off and gettin into some gay position with another dude, then you can give my bus tickets to someone else....

I don't ride on the pink bus.

[Pimp C]

It doesn't work like that at all those guys must just suck, boxers can't do shit other than land one big punch against and mma fighter. An example in a full fight with rules or none fedor would fuck up any heavyweight boxer in hisotory at least 7 out of 10 times
Fedor would get his plumber looking ass starched in 10 seconds by a prime Mike Tyson who would land on his ass like rain on a tin roof.:deal Fedor would come in and Tyson would catch with an uppercut that would put him in a coma.:lol::rofl:lol:

[FINITO]

Translation: :| Ima GAY and love to take it up the ass

:lol:

[rydersonthestorm]

Did you or did you not say to some guy that he fails at life for not wantin to get into a sexual position with a man?

You did right?

And you're callin me gay?

I think you got things mixed up....where you from? Anyway, gay means you are a dude into dudes.

You are gay
You are the fag bringing up all this gay shit, having sex with men makes you gay, talking about gay shit all the time emplies you are gay. Fighting someone in mma is a fight only gay when fags watch it and get hard from seeing grappling. So basically your points show you to be a fag who tries to see gay stuff in whatever he can, what a fucking faggot you are. :-(

[rydersonthestorm]

Fedor would get his plumber looking ass starched in 10 seconds by a prime Mike Tyson who would land on his ass like rain on a tin roof.:deal Fedor would come in and Tyson would catch with an uppercut that would put him in a coma.:lol::rofl:lol:
you know less than fuck all

[sinosleep]

I've been saying for YEARS that if Chuck could dominate for a long as he did ANY boxer worth a damn could. Fact of the matter is that even though a lot of the MMA guys could win if they just took it to the ground, a LOT of them are meat heads with the IQ of a brick and would rather test their bravado against someone who they should know is a superior striker. These MMA guys do it ALL THE TIME. Instead of taking it to the ground they strike with strikers and get knocked the fuck out.

[Pimp C]

you know less than fuck all
Don't get mad at me becasue your sport has been exposed. BTW fuck off UFC fag.:hi:

[rydersonthestorm]

I've been saying for YEARS that if Chuck could dominate for a long as he did ANY boxer worth a damn could. Fact of the matter is that even though a lot of the MMA guys could win if they just took it to the ground, a LOT of them are meat heads with the IQ of a brick and would rather test their bravado against someone who they should know is a superior striker. These MMA guys do it ALL THE TIME. Instead of taking it to the ground they strike with strikers and get knocked the fuck out.
chuck dominated the ufc when most of the better mma strikers were in pride so that doesn't work out.

[rydersonthestorm]

Don't get mad at me becasue your sport has been exposed. BTW fuck off UFC fag.:hi:
you like floyd mayweather and like talking about being gay, i think you are the one who has been exposed faggot.:patsch

[Rattler]

As I told that retard Pimp C in the MMA forum, this fight was meaningless. Nobody cared about it except for those who had a personal interest in the two athletes involved. Everybody else ignored it. Why? Because it meant nothing. Sylvia came into the fight fat, out of shape and obviously only there for the pay day. Mercer, only slightly gave more of a crap and was lucky that Sylvia thinks he's a world class striker. If Sylvia had taken a simple leg takedown off the bat, Mercer would've been tapping in under a minute.

Instead, he decided to give a has been who still has something of a punch his one chance in hell of getting lucky - to Mercer's credit, he took it and made it work. But it meant nothing.

[Pimp C]

I've been saying for YEARS that if Chuck could dominate for a long as he did ANY boxer worth a damn could. Fact of the matter is that even though a lot of the MMA guys could win if they just took it to the ground, a LOT of them are meat heads with the IQ of a brick and would rather test their bravado against someone who they should know is a superior striker. These MMA guys do it ALL THE TIME. Instead of taking it to the ground they strike with strikers and get knocked the fuck out.
That's because they know like the rest of us that the ultimate test of manhood is going toe to toe with fists and not rolling around on the ground with another man trying to get a guy to tap out.

[Punisher33]

Excellent post. I say take it up and kick some asses while you're at it.:good It's a well known fact that these guys can't take a punch hell even arm punches have knocked some of their best fighters out cold.:yep Thanks pimp. In all honesty, the fight clubs these guys go to are very expensive and the money they make for fighting is next to nothing. They do train very hard, and for me to want to get back in the gym again like I did during my teen years, just dont sound appealing enough for me at this stage in my life. I'm no Zelenoff, I could only dream of having 700 pounds of force in my hook.:yep

[BITCH ASS]

you like floyd mayweather and like talking about being gay, i think you are the one who has been exposed faggot.:patsch

Mayweather has 50x the skill of any current MMAer.

You just can't fight with your fists and would rather have something that resembles gay sex and call it fighting.

Hey, whatever works for you.

Maybe you can get with those two homosexuals from ESB that just got posted in the lounge.

[FINITO]

UFC fagfans are getting owned in here like always. They have no good counter argument.

UFC is borderline Gay porn. FACT

[Broxi]

The bit I don't like about MMA is when they climb on top of each other and rub their groins/balls on their opponents face and give each other 69s and all that.

Unfortunately that seems to make up about 98% of the "sport", so it's not really for me.

[Rattler]

The bit I don't like about MMA is when they climb on top of each other and rub their groins/balls on their opponents face and give each other 69s and all that.

Unfortunately that seems to make up about 98% of the "sport", so it's not really for me.

Yeah, and boxers like Andrew Golota are constantly touching other boxers penises in fights. Happens all the time.

[FINITO]

Especially in the Asian community, we fuckin laugh at the UFC guys because they label themselves as " Mixed MARTIAL ARTISTS " LMFAO.. MARTIAL Fuckin ARTISTS???? lol

What kinda martial artists can't even throw a proper kick and a punch.. Alot of the times i see these guys throwing some girly half assed kicks and punches.. it's laughable..

In order to be a UFC fighter, here are the requirments..

- Being white would have its advantages

- Shave your head

- Listen to some rock music

- Gotta love men

- Get some mean looking tatoos

There ya go.. We have a UFC fighter

[Broxi]

Yeah, and boxers like Andrew Golota are constantly touching other boxers penises in fights. Happens all the time.

I'll take a punch in a nuts rather than someone tryin to teabag me on live TV any time.

[Rattler]

Especially in the Asian community, we fuckin laugh at the UFC guys because they label themselves as " Mixed MARTIAL ARTISTS " LMFAO.. MARTIAL Fuckin ARTISTS???? lol

What kinda martial artists can't even throw a proper kick and a punch.. Alot of the times i see these guys throwing some girly half assed kicks and punches.. it's laughable..

In order to be a UFC fighter, here are the requirments..

- Being white would have its advantages

- Shave your head

- Listen to some rock music

- Gotta love men

- Get some mean looking tatoos

There ya go.. We have a UFC fighter

Nikolai Valuev is a boxing champion, so how difficult can boxing really be?

[Rattler]

I'll take a punch in a nuts rather than someone tryin to teabag me on live TV any time.

Well, if you want other guys to touch your nuts, then boxing is your sport.

[Pimp C]

As I told that retard Pimp C in the MMA forum, this fight was meaningless. Nobody cared about it except for those who had a personal interest in the two athletes involved. Everybody else ignored it. Why? Because it meant nothing. Sylvia came into the fight fat, out of shape and obviously only there for the pay day. Mercer, only slightly gave more of a crap and was lucky that Sylvia thinks he's a world class striker. If Sylvia had taken a simple leg takedown off the bat, Mercer would've been tapping in under a minute.

Instead, he decided to give a has been who still has something of a punch his one chance in hell of getting lucky - to Mercer's credit, he took it and made it work. But it meant nothing.
It meant plenty that's what you don't get. If a guy like Mercer who is 50 years old can beat a former UFC HW champ that easily it means something alright. It means that these guys are overrated and unskilled. Can you imagine if the opposite happened. If Silva came to boxing and beat a former HW champ that easily. Boxing would never live it down.

[BremnerBomber]

Especially in the Asian community, we fuckin laugh at the UFC guys because they label themselves as " Mixed MARTIAL ARTISTS " LMFAO.. MARTIAL Fuckin ARTISTS???? lol

What kinda martial artists can't even throw a proper kick and a punch.. Alot of the times i see these guys throwing some girly half assed kicks and punches.. it's laughable..

In order to be a UFC fighter, here are the requirments..

- Being white would have its advantages

- Shave your head

- Listen to some rock music

- Gotta love men

- Get some mean looking tatoos

There ya go.. We have a UFC fighter


Thats what gets my goat, All the fan boys try to tell me how skillfull it is and they are all Mixed Martial Artists !!! fuck off..... It is an insult to the history and tradition of these arts Karate, Thai-Boxing, Ju-Jitsu etc..... to have some redneck average college wrestler call himself a martial arts expert, because he has trained for a few years in one of these arts

[Rattler]

It meant plenty that's what you don't get. If a guy like Mercer who is 50 years old can beat a former UFC HW champ that easily it means something alright. It means that these guys are overrated and unskilled. Can you imagine if the opposite happened. If Silva came to boxing and beat a former HW champ that easily. Boxing would never live it down.

So, it means a lot, when two washed up pros of different sports show up fat and out of shape and someone throws a lucky punch?

Gotcha.

I guess that proves that Trevor Berbick was a greater heavyweight than Muhammad Ali. Circumstances be damned, it meant plenty.

[rydersonthestorm]

Mayweather has 50x the skill of any current MMAer.

You just can't fight with your fists and would rather have something that resembles gay sex and call it fighting.

Hey, whatever works for you.

Maybe you can get with those two homosexuals from ESB that just got posted in the lounge.
you mean stuey boxing coach:patsch:patsch
Also you keep going on about gayness nobody else cares about your gay dreams get a clue faggot.

[BITCH ASS]

you mean stuey boxing coach:patsch:patsch
Also you keep going on about gayness nobody else cares about your gay dreams get a clue faggot.

Is that what you call him?

....you keep your gay talk to yourself....

This is a board for families.

[rydersonthestorm]

It meant plenty that's what you don't get. If a guy like Mercer who is 50 years old can beat a former UFC HW champ that easily it means something alright. It means that these guys are overrated and unskilled. Can you imagine if the opposite happened. If Silva came to boxing and beat a former HW champ that easily. Boxing would never live it down.
If kimbo a street fighter can beat mercer an ex olympic champion that shows something

[Broxi]

So, it means a lot, when two washed up pros of different sports show up fat and out of shape and someone throws a lucky punch?

Gotcha.

I guess that proves that Trevor Berbick was a greater heavyweight than Muhammad Ali. Circumstances be damned, it meant plenty.

Hardly a lucky punch when some guy has a non-existant guard. Mercer throw that shot from China and cut him flush.

[rydersonthestorm]

Is that what you call him?

....you keep your gay talk to yourself....

This is a board for families.
no he is an actual boxing coach but those pictures show he must like mma, what a fucking retard you are:patsch

[Rattler]

Hardly a lucky punch when some guy has a non-existant guard. Mercer throw that shot from China and cut him flush.

It was lucky, because any MMA fighter with an asshole worth of intelligence immediately clenches and takes the fight to the ground or up against the fence, to negate the one weapon that Mercer has - or at least moves from a defensive posture, especially if their 6'8" and slow as syrup. Without the single stupidest gameplan possible to use, Mercer is trying to keep from getting taken down.

That's the lucky aspect of it.

[Toopretty]

Thats all they do. Grab a few high school or college wrasslers and teach them where to kick and then once they get them on the ground with their years of experience rolling around with dudes they get the win. If I was on the ground and some dude was wrapped around me I would tap out for the sake that the dudes balls are in my face.

[BITCH ASS]

It was lucky, because any MMA fighter with an asshole worth of intelligence immediately clenches and takes the fight to the ground or up against the fence, to negate the one weapon that Mercer has - or at least moves from a defensive posture, especially if their 6'8" and slow as syrup. Without the single stupidest gameplan possible to use, Mercer is trying to keep from getting taken down.

That's the lucky aspect of it.

1 punch KO.

Means the guy was floored with 1 punch.

Goes in for the clinch........1 punch KO.

What is the difference?

[Tampa Nights]

If I was on the ground and some dude was wrapped around me I would tap out for the sake that the dudes balls are in my face.

:lol:

[Rattler]

Thats all they do. Grab a few high school or college wrasslers and teach them where to kick and then once they get them on the ground with their years of experience rolling around with dudes they get the win. If I was on the ground and some dude was wrapped around me I would tap out for the sake that the dudes balls are in my face.

Yeah, but it would be a slow tap and you would ask for a do-over.

[Toopretty]

Yeah, but it would be a slow tap and you would ask for a do-over.

At least I am not a voyeur. Dont be offended sweety. I am not trying to reign in on your dedication to the art of man molesting.

[BremnerBomber]

Thats all they do. Grab a few high school or college wrasslers and teach them where to kick and then once they get them on the ground with their years of experience rolling around with dudes they get the win. If I was on the ground and some dude was wrapped around me I would tap out for the sake that the dudes balls are in my face.


And then I have some idiot fan boy tell me how these fighters are Grand Masters in Thai-Boxing, Ju-jitsu, Judo, Blow Jobs etc.... and could compete in any of these to the highest level !!!!

[Rattler]

1 punch KO.

Means the guy was floored with 1 punch.

Goes in for the clinch........1 punch KO.

What is the difference?

The difference is he stood there, chin up, hands open against a fat 50 year old man with moderate hand speed.

The equivilent would be Manny Pacquiao deciding to spend the whole fight against Ricky Hatton on the ropes in a clinch - giving a one dimensional opponent free reign to make use of that one dimension.

[BITCH ASS]

Man, I saw a fight once where Wanderli Silva or whatever his name is, literaly jumped on a guys face, nuts in face and everything as soon as the bell run, and stayed in that position until the round ended with the other guy just standing there, completely bewillered with a grown man basically tryin to stick his dick in his face.

That shit is gay.

If someone did that in a club or bar, they could never live that down.

[Rattler]

At least I am not a voyeur. Dont be offended sweety. I am not trying to reign in on your dedication to the art of man molesting.

You're not? Then how could you know what you're talking about?

[BITCH ASS]

The difference is he stood there, chin up, hands open against a fat 50 year old man with moderate hand speed.

The equivilent would be Manny Pacquiao deciding to spend the whole fight against Ricky Hatton on the ropes in a clinch - giving a one dimensional opponent free reign to make use of that one dimension.

Who in MMA doesn't fight with their chin up, hands open?

Isn't that the common stance?

[Toopretty]

Man, I saw a fight once where Wanderli Silva or whatever his name is, literaly jumped on a guys face, nuts in face and everything as soon as the bell run, and stayed in that position until the round ended with the other guy just standing there, completely bewillered with a grown man basically tryin to stick his dick in his face.

That shit is gay.

If someone did that in a club or bar, they could never live that down.

The only thing that matters is that they get a W. So what they have dry hump you a little to get er done. :yep

[Toopretty]

You're not? Then how could you know what you're talking about?

I have cable and a remote. I flip through channels and sometimes you stumble accross the spike channel. In which at any given moment you will see a dude holding on to a fence while another dude is behind him supposedly trying to slam him but it just looks like what I imagine gay intercourse looks like. I also stumbled accross the gay LOGO channel....which was similar.

[Rattler]

Who in MMA doesn't fight with their chin up, hands open?

Isn't that the common stance?

It's common, yes. Because it's a fact that most MMA fighters aren't particularly skilled at striking - plus, they usually concerned about giving up their body to be wrestled down, so they keep their hands in a position more valuable in denying an attempted takedown.

So, common sense reasons that against a boxer who has to win by knockout or TKO, you don't open yourself up to that.

[Rattler]

I have cable and a remote. I flip through channels and sometimes you stumble accross the spike channel. In which at any given moment you will see a dude holding on to a fence while another dude is behind him supposedly trying to slam him but it just looks like what I imagine gay intercourse looks like. I also stumbled accross the gay LOGO channel....which was similar.

That's how you develop an in depth knowledge of something? You channel surf?

No wonder your knowledge of boxing is as piss poor as it is of MMA.

[Toopretty]

That's how you develop an in depth knowledge of something? You channel surf?

No wonder your knowledge of boxing is as piss poor as it is of MMA.

Look whos talking. Who takes your boxing opinions seriously.

[Zakman]

The only thing that matters is that they get a W. So what they have dry hump you a little to get er done. :yep

They can do whatever they want if it's within the rules - but that doesn't mean people have like it, or find it any less boring. Why people would want to watch a couple of guys roll around on the ground is beyond me.

[David UK]

No MMA fighter should ever go NEAR a decent professional boxer

[Broxi]

Is there anything worse than these MMA dudes that call throwing punches "striking"


"Ohh I just struck you there with my strike" :gayfight

[rydersonthestorm]

Is there anything worse than these MMA dudes that call throwing punches "striking"


"Ohh I just struck you there with my strike" :gayfight
Its callled striking because it doesn't just include punching.

[Kaki]

Is there anything worse than these MMA dudes that call throwing punches "striking"


"Ohh I just struck you there with my strike" :gayfight

:huh are you referring to my post? throwing punches = striking. i used the term for the purpose of comparing the two sports. and i was saying that in boxing punching is much more refined. thus ufc = crap.

[Filmnpuck]

I think MMA has tremendous potential, but I hate how it's marketed. Way too WWE -like. Every time I watch it, each fighter's talking smack, and not even interesting smack.

Yeah, I hate that shit, too. I mean, it's not that boxers don't also talk shit, but it's specifically produced (i.e., acted out) by the UFC and played in those stupid pre-fight videos.

The lead commentator (forget his name, not Joe Rogan, I actually like him) also adds to the WWE feeling. He's got that type of overdramatic voice. I keep on expecting him to say something like "Ooh! Into the turnbuckle!"

I think the guys calling the WEC fights are much better.

All that being said, I enjoy watching both, but enjoy boxing much more.

[Pimp C]

Thats all they do. Grab a few high school or college wrasslers and teach them where to kick and then once they get them on the ground with their years of experience rolling around with dudes they get the win. If I was on the ground and some dude was wrapped around me I would tap out for the sake that the dudes balls are in my face.
:rofl

[Drunkenboxer]

UFC and boxing have different skill sets. It's stupid to compare them.

Also; Sylvia is shit. Take a look at Andrei Arlovski. He may be past his best now, but he has tremendous respect for boxing (As most MMA guys do) and has recruited Freddie Roach as his trainer...

And a young, prime Matt Skelton was completely embarrassed by a second rate MMA fighter. Just as Mercer was embarrassed by a street fighter in Kimbo. I wouldn't be bragging too much about Mercer knocking out a pathetic, unskilled Tim Sylvia. There isn't a person on this message board who is a bigger boxing fan than I am. However, let's be realistic and call it how it is. Boxing is an extremely limited fighting sport. In fact, it's the most limited of all the fighting sports in the world. Boxing is just a small part of fighting.

Bollocks it is! I consider boxing to be a more pure and useful fighting skill than wrestling due to the fact that 90 percent of streetfights are dudes straight dukin' it out. A style that completely ignores striking is way more limited if you ask me.

Don't even start me on the competition "fighting" of most eastern martial arts. Guys training not to punch to the head in combat, and even worse, not being battle prepared to defend one? Ridiculous.

[Cleveland_Steamer]

Worth a watch, even if you don't like MMA mabey you can gain a bit of respect for it.

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[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

I boxed a few fights professionally but nothing more than six rounds. Alot of MMA guys pretty much stand up and strike a for a whole fight. Chuck dominated for years doing this and I would like to think any decent pro boxer would eat Chuck for breakfast.
MMA striking isn't boxing. You have to worry about and be ready to defense fists, elbows, knees, high kicks, low kicks, clinch fighting, ect... and that is just on the feet. Let alone takedowns, submissions, octagon control, ect... It's impossible to just go into an MMA fight, against a top notch all around MMA fighter and just box. You have to change your stance first off, which throws most things out the window, and you just can't be so technical and rely on the rules of boxing to save you from a different type of attack.

In a boxing match under boxing rules? Of course a boxer would eat Chuck for lunch. If he was stupid enough to try and box with them in an MMA fight I am sure that they would too.

I haven't said that a pro boxer couldn't win an MMA fight. It's a fight, and there is always a chance that he can land a perfectly place shot at the right time. However, there is no guarantee that it would knock his opponent out, and there is much larger likelyhood of a great grappler/wrestler getting his hands on a boxer, than there is of that boxer landing a knockout punch. That's just the reality of the situation.

Now... if that pro boxer had great takedown defense (takes years and years of top notch training), and knew how to throw and defend elbows, knees, kicks, ect.... then off course he would be great in MMA. Although at that point he obviously isn't just a boxer.

[Polymath]

Man, I saw a fight once where Wanderli Silva or whatever his name is, literaly jumped on a guys face, nuts in face and everything as soon as the bell run, and stayed in that position until the round ended with the other guy just standing there, completely bewillered with a grown man basically tryin to stick his dick in his face.

That shit is gay.

If someone did that in a club or bar, they could never live that down.

:rofl

[TheGreat]

Boxing KO 1, UFC has a glass jaw.

[DobyZhee]

after pondering it a bit, trying to box an ex professional boxer with MMA gloves..that's a recipe for suicide.

[dhralf]

UFC is for fags period.

This must be your favorite sport then...

[Bill Butcher]

When a man is down you cannot hit him when two warriors fight. Why in certain other sports do i have to then see men mount eachother and do all the other crap.

Are you telling me if someone sweeped your legs on the street, sat on you & started punching fuck out of you, you would rather scream `this isnt real mans fighting, get off me` as opposed to doing everything in your power to reverse the situation & stomp on his head ?

[Blue145]

Hmmm wonder why all the failed boxers don't just become ufc champions if its so easy.

Boxing is a small element of mma and of course a pure boxer would out strike an mma fighter, but how does he go about defending a hell hook or a armbar? thy don't... it takes years to gain an existant ground game. Some of you actually don't know what your talking about, its kind of sad/funny.

[BITCH ASS]

You see, it's easy to critizcise boxing when you can't box yourself and don't really understand styles, which is reasonable considering the majority of fighters today do not know how to box...

But when it comes down to it, rollin around with another dude, balls in his face, is very suspect...

And it's not the sort of behavior that a heterosexual man would voluntarily participate in unless he had some tendencies that led him to this type of behavior...

But hey.....it's 2009.

[Ubersteve]

Thats what gets my goat, All the fan boys try to tell me how skillfull it is and they are all Mixed Martial Artists !!! fuck off..... It is an insult to the history and tradition of these arts Karate, Thai-Boxing, Ju-Jitsu etc..... to have some redneck average college wrestler call himself a martial arts expert, because he has trained for a few years in one of these arts

Probably because to get there they're beating the fuck out of people who are experts in those disciplines?