i am on a boxing down

[BIGMARK]

i dont post on here there often but this is something i posted on another forum today and thought i would like to throw it open here.


I have been watching boxing for a good 25 years and cant remember a time i felt so down about the sport. Maybe it has a lot to do with the Haye fight falling through which i had tickets to but i think its more. I have slowly watch the sport fall away from public interest due to in general poor press coverage and lack of fights on open TV. Your average sport fan knows very little about the sport apart from Hatton or Calzaghe and a fighter like Haye who ticks all the right boxes to be a huge UK star seems to slip a lot of the time under the radar when he has to be one of the easiest fighters to market ever. With the constant cancallation of fights, mismatches and poor stoppages i understand why people are turned off the sport. I always watch whatever boxing is on the telly but recently didnt bother with FFN for the first time i can remember because i just couldnt be bothered. Now add this to Setanta having problems which effects their coverage (although Cotto-Clottey was great), ITV4 pulling out of boxing and the fact that Carl Froch wasnt even seen shown live i wonder where the sport is going. I love what Setanta do with the sport and enjoy the ITV4 bills but boxing needs to be on ITV or BBC more often for it to gain fans yet sports like canoeing are shown over boxing on the beeb. I few years back the BBC started showing a few Hatton, Calzaghe fights on a saturday afternoon the week after they happened and a promoter would be wise to try and do the same thing again to get fighters like Kel Brook, John Murray, Darren Barker, Darren Sutherland, Tyson Fury, George Groves etc more exposure hence increasing and interest in the sport. Yes i know a lot of the fighters i mentioned are still fighting mismatches but i am talking about their future fights. Ok my rant is over and as i said i'm not new to the sport i'm old school but down in the dumps, how do you feel?

[kosaros]

i dont post on here there often but this is something i posted on another forum today and thought i would like to throw it open here.

:nono

No I can see why you are on a 'boxing down', a lot of fights have been breaking down and terrestrial coverage is almost non-existent. Although I would say don't worry because there are some true super fights that could be made at the end of the year.

[SouthpawSlayer]

id be down too if i bought tickets for haye wlad

[BIGMARK]

i almost change my flight after the Haye fight fell through to come to london and watch the khan bill

[saturday_kid]

i dont post on here there often but this is something i posted on another forum today and thought i would like to throw it open here.


I have been watching boxing for a good 25 years and cant remember a time i felt so down about the sport. Maybe it has a lot to do with the Haye fight falling through which i had tickets to but i think its more. I have slowly watch the sport fall away from public interest due to in general poor press coverage and lack of fights on open TV. Your average sport fan knows very little about the sport apart from Hatton or Calzaghe and a fighter like Haye who ticks all the right boxes to be a huge UK star seems to slip a lot of the time under the radar when he has to be one of the easiest fighters to market ever. With the constant cancallation of fights, mismatches and poor stoppages i understand why people are turned off the sport. I always watch whatever boxing is on the telly but recently didnt bother with FFN for the first time i can remember because i just couldnt be bothered. Now add this to Setanta having problems which effects their coverage (although Cotto-Clottey was great), ITV4 pulling out of boxing and the fact that Carl Froch wasnt even seen shown live i wonder where the sport is going. I love what Setanta do with the sport and enjoy the ITV4 bills but boxing needs to be on ITV or BBC more often for it to gain fans yet sports like canoeing are shown over boxing on the beeb. I few years back the BBC started showing a few Hatton, Calzaghe fights on a saturday afternoon the week after they happened and a promoter would be wise to try and do the same thing again to get fighters like Kel Brook, John Murray, Darren Barker, Darren Sutherland, Tyson Fury, George Groves etc more exposure hence increasing and interest in the sport. Yes i know a lot of the fighters i mentioned are still fighting mismatches but i am talking about their future fights. Ok my rant is over and as i said i'm not new to the sport i'm old school but down in the dumps, how do you feel?

I agree there. Things don't seem too good at the moment, especially TV wise.

[REEVO]

i dont post on here there often but this is something i posted on another forum today and thought i would like to throw it open here.


I have been watching boxing for a good 25 years and cant remember a time i felt so down about the sport. Maybe it has a lot to do with the Haye fight falling through which i had tickets to but i think its more. I have slowly watch the sport fall away from public interest due to in general poor press coverage and lack of fights on open TV. Your average sport fan knows very little about the sport apart from Hatton or Calzaghe and a fighter like Haye who ticks all the right boxes to be a huge UK star seems to slip a lot of the time under the radar when he has to be one of the easiest fighters to market ever. With the constant cancallation of fights, mismatches and poor stoppages i understand why people are turned off the sport. I always watch whatever boxing is on the telly but recently didnt bother with FFN for the first time i can remember because i just couldnt be bothered. Now add this to Setanta having problems which effects their coverage (although Cotto-Clottey was great), ITV4 pulling out of boxing and the fact that Carl Froch wasnt even seen shown live i wonder where the sport is going. I love what Setanta do with the sport and enjoy the ITV4 bills but boxing needs to be on ITV or BBC more often for it to gain fans yet sports like canoeing are shown over boxing on the beeb. I few years back the BBC started showing a few Hatton, Calzaghe fights on a saturday afternoon the week after they happened and a promoter would be wise to try and do the same thing again to get fighters like Kel Brook, John Murray, Darren Barker, Darren Sutherland, Tyson Fury, George Groves etc more exposure hence increasing and interest in the sport. Yes i know a lot of the fighters i mentioned are still fighting mismatches but i am talking about their future fights. Ok my rant is over and as i said i'm not new to the sport i'm old school but down in the dumps, how do you feel?
I tottaly agree i enjoy nothing more than sitting down on a saturady nite and watching the boxing on itv etc, to me itv is your grass roots of boxing and is a good way of seeing the up and coming young boxers, shame... Im pissed of too. :fire

[Lewisbell]

Sad thing is I think we may be ending up with Sky as our only choice :(

So expect alot more of ******s B list fighters like this Fridays card

[El Cepillo]

I'd would be nice if boxing was a huge, mainstream sport. But its not something that bothers me all that much. As long as their is consistent coverage of the big fights I don't care if its only a hardcore group of boxing die-hards who watch them. I've already accepted that boxing is a niche sport, and for me that makes it all the more special. I feel privileged to be a boxing fan, I feel like I'm in on a great little secret that only a few people know about.

[JIM KELLY]

June 09 can be marked (no pun intended) down as the worst ever let downs for Boxing fans!

[Dan684]

Ha Ha Hoya spot on mate. I have this mate at home who talks rubbish about boxing all the time. He has just started getting into the sport and talks shite and it gets me annoyed that he starts trying to pick up on my boxing knowledge when 2 years ago he claimed Hatton would leather Mayweather (even going as far as putting money on it) and then sitting in my house watching the fight and claiming that Hatton was winning most rounds. I agree that its good to know that I genuinely love and know about the sport, instead of being one of these fans that talk about it because its a macho sport to be involved with. I know I dont like Calzaghe and give him shit on here but I do give him props for what he achieved and when I try and discuss the simple things with him he wont even accept anything I say. One day he said "he can't be shit he was unbeaten in 50 fights" I said "Nah it was 46 mate not 50". He argued about that and (once again) made a bet with me. he said yeah it was definately 50 coz he went 1 better than Marciano. ha ha.
I dont mind who else watches it to be honest. hatton generated a lot of puplicity over in the UK for the sport but lets be honest half of his fans are football fans jumping on the bandwagon who know fuck all about it, so sometimes IMO less is better

[LHL]

I like boxing not being main stream to be honest. Every time i watch a Hatton fight all the football fans crawl out the woodwork, trying to tell me how Hatton will destroy who ever he is fighting with a body shot, but only if he doesn't get hit with a check hook :lol:.

Anyone can be a boxing fan when they watch a war like Gatti vs Ward, Izzy Vs Marquez but when it comes down to technical fighters they all call it boring.

UFC is something all my mates watch and i have to say some of the comments they come off with is a joke for people that call themselves fans.

[rhinocoote]

i feel your pain sir,,
i think that alot of your disappointment is down to the recession and broadcasters debts.re;the calling off of the haye/klitschko and valuev/chagaev fights.i think it's pretty obvious that this is the underlying factor in these cases.
it is a fact that fights will inevitably be called off/cancelled due to injuries,weight etc.it's just a shame that it has happened all at the start of this year.
i must admit i was looking forward to this summer more then any because of the haye fight and feel bitterly disappointed.but you can guarentee not as disappointed as haye himself,who with adam booth worked tremendously hard to jockey themselves into position at a shot.
as for being down about boxing??,never!.i do what i always do and delve into my dvd collection of the golden era of heavyweights,or the rise of hamed,or benn/eubank.there is always an up side to being down!
:good:good

[BIGMARK]

i to love going back through my DVD and vhs collections and watching great eras but dont want to have to do that. I want to believe there is hope for the sport and the next great era is just round the corner. However , every time boxing shots itself in the foot i see that day getting further and further away.

[GPater11093]

Ahh BIGMARK

my bro posts on boxrec says your pretty knowledgeable


I like boxing not being main stream to be honest. Every time i watch a Hatton fight all the football fans crawl out the woodwork, trying to tell me how Hatton will destroy who ever he is fighting with a body shot, but only if he doesn't get hit with a check hook :lol:.

Anyone can be a boxing fan when they watch a war like Gatti vs Ward, Izzy Vs Marquez but when it comes down to technical fighters they all call it boring.

UFC is something all my mates watch and i have to say some of the comments they come off with is a joke for people that call themselves fans.

thats right i prefer being in a sport where its mostly hardcore fans.

boxing always goes through bad patches but it will come back through and in a bad patch thats why theres old fights to watch

[El Cepillo]

Ha Ha Hoya spot on mate. I have this mate at home who talks rubbish about boxing all the time. He has just started getting into the sport and talks shite and it gets me annoyed that he starts trying to pick up on my boxing knowledge when 2 years ago he claimed Hatton would leather Mayweather (even going as far as putting money on it) and then sitting in my house watching the fight and claiming that Hatton was winning most rounds. I agree that its good to know that I genuinely love and know about the sport, instead of being one of these fans that talk about it because its a macho sport to be involved with. I know I dont like Calzaghe and give him shit on here but I do give him props for what he achieved and when I try and discuss the simple things with him he wont even accept anything I say. One day he said "he can't be shit he was unbeaten in 50 fights" I said "Nah it was 46 mate not 50". He argued about that and (once again) made a bet with me. he said yeah it was definately 50 coz he went 1 better than Marciano. ha ha.
I dont mind who else watches it to be honest. hatton generated a lot of puplicity over in the UK for the sport but lets be honest half of his fans are football fans jumping on the bandwagon who know fuck all about it, so sometimes IMO less is better

I've had the same conversations before. I don't know if everyone is the same, but I'm always on the look out for other proper boxing fans in everday life. I usually ask the question 'do you like boxing?' to most guys around our age, in the hope of finding someone to actually have a proper conversation about boxing with. Never seems to happen though and it always ends up that if they know anything at all, its just the raw basics of the sport, I.e 'the last fight I watched was when Hatton got beat by that guy, Pucweenow'. :lol:

[kosaros]

Ahh BIGMARK

my bro posts on boxrec says your pretty knowledgeable

Greg you should get your brother posting on here.

[GPater11093]

Greg you should get your brother posting on here.

i really shouldnt

we would end up fighting, and take the piss of the tiniest wrong deatil in each others post

[Dan684]

Hoya yeah. I'm a big United fan and unitl last season I went to pretty much most home games. And to be honest i'm getting tired with football at the moment. Sick of the fact that season tickets are going upto aroun £900 on average at OT and you can't have a conversation about football without it being spoilt by biasness. Nobody that I know studies football technically unlike boxing. I can quite happily watch 99% of fights and not care for the winner either where as with football i'va always got United at heart so I find my self leaning towards one team or the other for Uniteds own good.
I can honestly say that i've never been so into boxing as I am right now and I feel I have got one over on my mates who aren't :-)

[BIGMARK]

Ahh BIGMARK

my bro posts on boxrec says your pretty knowledgeable


ha ha i like his style, what name does he go under? i think i'm pretty knowledgeable just from watching and reading about the sport for 25 odd years but i'm nothing compared a few on boxrec who really know their stuff.

[kosaros]

i really shouldnt

we would end up fighting, and take the piss of the tiniest wrong deatil in each others post

So where is the problem? ;)

[GPater11093]

ha ha i like his style, what name does he go under? i think i'm pretty knowledgeable just from watching and reading about the sport for 25 odd years but i'm nothing compared a few on boxrec who really know their stuff.

alexpaterson

So where is the problem? ;)

:rofl:rofl

hes knows abit but not alot really and cant argue for shit when i disagree with him he goes mental

when we go at it we proper fight

he once got stabbed when he rugby tackeled me with a knife :rofl

[BIGMARK]

alexpaterson





he's only being nice because he knows i run the prediction league and wants to stay in my good books, i think he even got promoted last month.

[GPater11093]

he's only being nice because he knows i run the prediction league and wants to stay in my good books, i think he even got promoted last month.

good for him


what you think of him though as a poster

[BIGMARK]

good for him


what you think of him though as a poster

he seems pretty good although he does seem to like mixing it with the Americans on that part of the forum. You guys are from Scotland (aberdeen) yes? i seem to contect Willie Limmond with his name for some reason

[GPater11093]

he seems pretty good although he does seem to like mixing it with the Americans on that part of the forum. You guys are from Scotland (aberdeen) yes? i seem to contect Willie Limmond with his name for some reason

mixing it - you mean arguing or posting in the american section

like i say he likes boxing but isnt into it as much as me. he watches all the big fights and folllows them but not so much the contenders of britaina nd the world

yeh were from aberdeen

why limmond

[BIGMARK]

mixing it - you mean arguing or posting in the american section

like i say he likes boxing but isnt into it as much as me. he watches all the big fights and folllows them but not so much the contenders of britaina nd the world

yeh were from aberdeen

why limmond

i seem to remember him posting about Willie for some reason but maybe i'm wrong? he does like to post in the boxrec current scene sections which is always a brave thing to do as i remember reading over there and he had posted recently.

[GPater11093]

is it a bad forum the current scene alot of BSers

[BIGMARK]

is it a bad forum the current scene alot of BSers

i should give it a real go but was really put off with American boxing forums when i used dog house boxing which boxing chat section used to drive me mad.

[kosaros]

i should give it a real go but was really put off with American boxing forums when i used dog house boxing which boxing chat section used to drive me mad.

The general forum here is also terrible.

[LHL]

The general forum here is also terrible.

Find some of the best posters in there though.

[mgmvegas]

i do worry about the direction bxing is going in i hope that we do start geting back to the days where the best fought the best. there is 2 much obsession with protecting a 0 on your record in the UK. I hope the current crop of olympic hopefulls are tested against
each other before they get to 35-0.lets see de-gale and groves for the lonsdale belt for example

i also agree with the football mentality with the hatton supporters , i travelled to the floyd fight and hoped to get into some good boxing debate and soak in the atmosphere ( now i know i'm not an expert but i do appreciate the finer side of the big fights ). Everyone i spoke to just said 'floyds gone get fucked by a body shot , walking along singing a song etc etc etc '

[BIGMARK]

i do worry about the direction bxing is going in i hope that we do start geting back to the days where the best fought the best. there is 2 much obsession with protecting a 0 on your record in the UK. I hope the current crop of olympic hopefulls are tested against
each other before they get to 35-0.lets see de-gale and groves for the lonsdale belt for example

i also agree with the football mentality with the hatton supporters , i travelled to the floyd fight and hoped to get into some good boxing debate and soak in the atmosphere ( now i know i'm not an expert but i do appreciate the finer side of the big fights ). Everyone i spoke to just said 'floyds gone get fucked by a body shot , walking along singing a song etc etc etc '

I have never had the chance to do the Vegas thing and but almost went for Hattons last couple of fights there. To be honest though i was put off by the thought of 30,000 odd footy fans travelling and now think i will save my first Vegas vist for a fight weekend not involving a British fighter.

[Dan684]

I have never had the chance to do the Vegas thing and but almost went for Hattons last couple of fights there. To be honest though i was put off by the thought of 30,000 odd footy fans travelling and now think i will save my first Vegas vist for a fight weekend not involving a British fighter.

spot on mate thats exactl what i'm waiting to do, once we've got the wedding and birth of our child out of the way

[BIGMARK]

spot on mate thats exactl what i'm waiting to do, once we've got the wedding and birth of our child out of the way

the trouble with kids is they tend to take up all your time, thank god for Sky+ and that pause button as i'm sure you are about to find out.

[Dan684]

the trouble with kids is they tend to take up all your time, thank god for Sky+ and that pause button as i'm sure you are about to find out.

:good

Not quite yet mate, Its due on xmas eve :lol:.

[BIGMARK]

:good

Not quite yet mate, Its due on xmas eve :lol:.

well good luck and if you havent got a sky+ box yet get one:lol:

[Dan684]

Yeah I have got one, thanks pal !

[BIGMARK]

Yeah I have got one, thanks pal !

i might see you vegas one day and we can compare nappy changing tactics. Serious good luck, not that you will need it as its a great experience thats becoming a father not going to Vegas although i'm sure that's not bad to:D

[Dan684]

Yeah were looking forward to it mate. Just trying to get as much sorted as we can now to prepare. and yeah i'll defo make the vegas trip (One day :-))

Cheers again

[achillesthegreat]

We've gotten unlucky. Biggest heavyweight fight for years and the return of the P4P king versus the P4P number 2 have both fallen through. As Brits we have had to deal with the destruction of Hatton and the retirement of Calzaghe. Khans fight has been delayed and we genuinely all want to see if he is championship material.

Then after all this bad news, we have Froch. Our glimmer of hope. War with Pascal, war with Taylor and looking set to war again with Bute.

Thanks Carl.

[BURNLEYBLUE]

We've gotten unlucky. Biggest heavyweight fight for years and the return of the P4P king versus the P4P number 2 have both fallen through. As Brits we have had to deal with the destruction of Hatton and the retirement of Calzaghe. Khans fight has been delayed and we genuinely all want to see if he is championship material.

Then after all this bad news, we have Froch. Our glimmer of hope. War with Pascal, war with Taylor and looking set to war again with Bute.

Thanks Carl.
Is there a date for the Bute fight yet Carl?
He looked a little vulnerable late on in his last fight:good

[achillesthegreat]

Is there a date for the Bute fight yet Carl?
He looked a little vulnerable late on in his last fight:good

I think they are talking about September in Nottingham.