Floyds Boring Style

[Nigel_Benn]

Floyds always been a mover thats his game he aint a ko puncher, i hate these dicks on here calling Mayweather a runner he didnt run from Corrales he didnt run from Castilio he didnt run from DeLaHoya he outclassed Baldomir he knew he wasnt gonna knock him out, if Vernon Forrest who was a much much bigger puncher then Floyd couldnt do it then how was floyd gonna do it, When did this bull start of him being a boring fighter?

[Thread Stealer]

Mayweather just reacts to the situation/opponent. He's more entertaining against certain fighters and more cautious due to the opponent or situation.

People just have short memories.

It's like the idiots and newbies who think Marvin Hagler was always a brawler or Bernard Hopkins was also extremely cautious with a crap workrate.

That being said, how cautious Mayweather hsa been in the last couple of fights may be a legitimate concern.

[bigtime9]

it started from the jealous ones..mainly homosexual males age 18-55 .:lol: they saw that he was winning too much which somehow makes them feel bad about themselves:nut

[john b]

As a Spectle I hope he comes to fight against hatton like he did coralless and gatti because it will be one hell of a fight and i think hattons constant pressure like he showed against KT that he will be able to walk through pbf punches and chop in down for the victory.

[Relentless]

i dont have a problem with floyd not being entertaining, i dont mind watching bernard hopkins fight, its just as calabrese said, floyd says things like how he is going to destroy everyone and knock them out and then plays it safe

[Shpion]

Floyds always been a mover thats his game he aint a ko puncher, i hate these dicks on here calling Mayweather a runner he didnt run from Corrales he didnt run from Castilio he didnt run from DeLaHoya he outclassed Baldomir he knew he wasnt gonna knock him out, if Vernon Forrest who was a much much bigger puncher then Floyd couldnt do it then how was floyd gonna do it, When did this bull start of him being a boring fighter?

His fights at the lower weight were not boring at all but once he started moving up in weight and his power became a no-factor, the entertainment value went down the drain, at least for me. Moreover, the promises he makes before the fights makes it even more anoying.

[Thread Stealer]

The Baldomir fight was his first boring fight since the Castillo rematch. The Sosa fight after that was so-so.

He's had about 5 or 6 dull fights this decade out of 16 bouts.

Not an especially high rate of dull fights.

[Blacc Jesus]

His fights at the lower weight were not boring at all but once he started moving up in weight and his power became a no-factor, the entertainment value went down the drain, at least for me. Moreover, the promises he makes before the fights makes it even more anoying.
Agreed.

[BewareofDawg]

The problem is this: To the casual boxing fan Floyd does not satisfy what they are accustomed to when hearing about "The Best in the Sport". Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, L. Tomlinson, Lebron James, Sugar Ray Leonard, etc etc These are guys that were the best at what they did/do and guys that when you watch them play or perform you are/were going to see exactly what all the fuss and hoopla is about. When people watched the Floyd/Hoya fight, I guaruntee alot of casual fans simply were like "yeah, he's a good fighter....but I didn't see anything amazing...."

He never puts it all on the line, and I think that is the problem with his style and his problem with really attracting fans.

I for one, love watching him fight and can recognize his greatness. But I follow boxing/fighting like a religion and look for different things than the casual fan would.

[achillesthegreat]

Floyd doesn't have a boring style, his style is what he makes it.

Floyd is a complete fighter. Three things can beat Mayweather - himself, size or age.

Eventually there will be fighters who are too big for him and he'll get old too. Those aren't happening any time soon.

Being beaten by himself is something you are at risk of in every fight. Now Floyds shown the risks of that are extremely low. He trains hard, is an intelligent fighter, doesn't let injuries beat him, doesn't let issues get in his head etc...

...BUT his safety first style may be his undoing. Now Floyd takes risks but he can sometimes keep his hands at home. He didn't take enough risks in the 11th and 12th v Judah and arguably made it a close 7-5 win. He kept his hands at home early against DLH and arguably made it another close 7-5 win. The one or two rounds one may argue he lost to Baldo, Mitchell, Augustus, Sosa, N'dou etc is when he thought defensive and his opponent let some slugs go.

Now I'm nitpicking. Floyds usually in control. He reads his opponents and the way a fight is going perfectly. However Floyds safety approach is one of his few possible undoings.

[john b]

I just don't think PBF has the power to shift Hatton as he walked through that dangerous right hand of KT which floored judah. By the way I think Judah's reaction when he got back up after the second time and why the ref stopped it was priceless. On the subject of this fight i think hatton unlike judah, and oscar he will pressure him for the full three minutes but will throw punches at odd angles.

[Fab2333]

The problem is this: To the casual boxing fan Floyd does not satisfy what they are accustomed to when hearing about "The Best in the Sport". Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, L. Tomlinson, Lebron James, Sugar Ray Leonard, etc etc These are guys that were the best at what they did/do and guys that when you watch them play or perform you are/were going to see exactly what all the fuss and hoopla is about. When people watched the Floyd/Hoya fight, I guaruntee alot of casual fans simply were like "yeah, he's a good fighter....but I didn't see anything amazing...."

He never puts it all on the line, and I think that is the problem with his style and his problem with really attracting fans.

I for one, love watching him fight and can recognize his greatness. But I follow boxing/fighting like a religion and look for different things than the casual fan would.

Good post Beware, agree 110%. Even though Floyd is one of my favorite fighers, love to see him fight, and i appreciate his style. But I agree with Beware. If you look at the last 2 #1p4p fighters in the world (Roy Jones, Sweet Pea). If casual fans were 2 tune into them, they would have a different perception than he is just "good".

[Illmatic]

after moving up five weight divisions, I am content with him outclassing opponents beautifully.

When hatton moves to light heavyweight, Mosley moves to middleweight, cotto moves to super middleweight, then I will judge them the same way.

[Amsterdam]

The way he's been fighting lately is boring. Pernell Whitaker for example, always went out his best, just lacked power but he was always very entertaining to me.

Floyd's safety first approach does involve running to an extent, I find it atrociously boring to watch and the worst part is that he has some of the best tools in all of boxing and can really open up on opponents while keeping a great defence.

[MacManJr.]

i dont have a problem with floyd not being entertaining, i dont mind watching bernard hopkins fight, its just as calabrese said, floyd says things like how he is going to destroy everyone and knock them out and then plays it safeHe doesn't play it safe against fighters he doesn't think can hurt him. I think he'll fight Hatton just like he fought Corley and Ndou.

[PacDbest]

after moving up five weight divisions, I am content with him outclassing opponents beautifully.

When hatton moves to light heavyweight, Mosley moves to middleweight, cotto moves to super middleweight, then I will judge them the same way.

Why didn't you mentioned Pac?? He moves up 7 wt classes & still destroys & still exciting. This is the reason I rated Pac as #1 P4P.

[MacManJr.]

after moving up five weight divisions, I am content with him outclassing opponents beautifully.

When hatton moves to light heavyweight, Mosley moves to middleweight, cotto moves to super middleweight, then I will judge them the same way.Good post!

[valdez]

He's a technical genius.. A real 'boxer' some might say..

[Shpion]

after moving up five weight divisions, I am content with him outclassing opponents beautifully.

When hatton moves to light heavyweight, Mosley moves to middleweight, cotto moves to super middleweight, then I will judge them the same way.

I am not quite following your logic but if I am not mistaken, Mosley moved 4 weight classes.

[Lampley]

It's the lack of dominance that gets people. If fans hear that you are the best fighter in the world, they expect you to outfight your opponent.

Floyd's plan to win at the higher weights is to outslick and outsmart the opposition, because he doesn't hit hard enough to trade.

Contrast that to a Tyson, who tried to blow everyone out and to this day makes casual fans assume he'd have KOd Lewis in his prime. People want savage aggression or blinding speed, and Floyd is far too economical with his offense to win everyone over.

And for purists, he talks too much and displays a lack of knowledge and respect for the sport. It's the same reason a lot of involved fans never really warmed up to Roy Jones.

But I think Floyd is great and always buy his fights. He'll be appreciated more and hated less after he's retired.

[El Bombasto]

terry norris was a boxer-puncher

floyd mayweather is a runner-pot shotter, but hey it works for him

[OBCboxer]

PBF, is a very good technical boxer, but he makes too many promises and talks too much shit.

[Asterion]

Why didn't you mentioned Pac?? He moves up 7 wt classes & still destroys & still exciting. This is the reason I rated Pac as #1 P4P.



Pacman: 106 to 130 (24 pounds)

Mayweather: 130 to 154 (24 pounds)

The difference is that Mayweather is undefeated and had success in all the weight classes he was involved.

[Pimp C]

after moving up five weight divisions, I am content with him outclassing opponents beautifully.

When hatton moves to light heavyweight, Mosley moves to middleweight, cotto moves to super middleweight, then I will judge them the same way.
Spot on the man is fighting in a weight class that's not his best that's what most people fail to realize. You're not going to go toe to toe with guys who out weigh you by 15-20 pounds..only a fool would. He threw a lot more at 140, 135 & 130. Watch his old fights.:deal

[PacDbest]

Pacman: 106 to 130 (24 pounds)

Mayweather: 130 to 154 (24 pounds)

The difference is that Mayweather is undefeated and had success in all the weight classes he was involved.


The difference is Pac always Looking for the Best opponent & destroys them. While PBF avoided the best & Pick his opponent & content on winning by points.

Pac fought 2 29 yr old P4P & HOF fighters & Knocked them out in an exciting fight.


Floyd fought a former 33 yr old P4p & HOF in DLH & just wins by a boring Split Decision.

[Amsterdam]

The difference is Pac always Looking for the Best opponent & destroys them. While PBF avoided the best & Pick his opponent & content on winning by points.

Pac fought 2 29 yr old P4P & HOF fighters & Knocked them out in an exciting fight.


Floyd fought a former 33 yr old P4p & HOF in DLH & just wins by a boring Split Decision.

If you can look past PacDBest's bias and poor way of getting this across, the post here has plenty of validity when comparing The 1 and 2 P4P right now.

I personally have Pac 1, but you get the point.

[Pimp C]

The difference is Pac always Looking for the Best opponent & destroys them. While PBF avoided the best & Pick his opponent & content on winning by points.

Pac fought 2 29 yr old P4P & HOF fighters & Knocked them out in an exciting fight.


Floyd fought a former 33 yr old P4p & HOF in DLH & just wins by a boring Split Decision.
Blah Blah Blah and if PBF and Pac were the same size PBF would box circles around him just like JMM did.:deal:hi:

[Amsterdam]

Blah Blah Blah and if PBF and Pac were the same size PBF would box circles around him just like JMM did.:deal:hi:

Actually, Pac causes Floyd a lot of problems if they were the same size. Floyd can be timed and tagged with a straight left hand and Pac's explosiveness will get him some rounds.

Jmm is a much different fighter.

[Pimp C]

Actually, Pac causes Floyd a lot of problems if they were the same size. Floyd can be timed and tagged with a straight left hand and Pac's explosiveness will get him some rounds.

Jmm is a much different fighter.
He could cause some problems but not enough. PBF would have a field day with that 1-2 of Pac he's very easy to figure out and that spells doom against the smartest fighter in the sport. PBF would befuddle Pac with his defesne and movement and out box him to a UD win or possibly stopping him late. PBF at 130 was a beast. JMM was able to outbox Pac and he's not half the boxer PBF is.:deal

[john b]

Ok he might have been outboxed by JMM but pac put him on his arse three times in one round. Pimp C can u get your head out of pbf arse for one minute and admit pac has a better pleasing styles for the fans.

[Pimp C]

Ok he might have been outboxed by JMM but pac put him on his arse three times in one round. Pimp C can u get your head out of pbf arse for one minute and admit pac has a better pleasing styles for the fans.
No I won't pleasing is subjective. I find pure boxers more exciting than brawlers or sluggers.

[john b]

No I won't pleasing is subjective. I find pure boxers more exciting than brawlers or sluggers.

So basically you did not like a prime tyson or castillo, Chico or a pac. Basically you like watching paint dry. You Probably like audley harrison

[Amsterdam]

No I won't pleasing is subjective. I find pure boxers more exciting than brawlers or sluggers.

I like pure boxers a lot also, just not runners in the Cory Spinks class. I prefer Pernell Whitaker's.

[pipe wrenched]

Floyds always been a mover thats his game he aint a ko puncher, i hate these dicks on here calling Mayweather a runner he didnt run from Corrales he didnt run from Castilio he didnt run from DeLaHoya he outclassed Baldomir he knew he wasnt gonna knock him out, if Vernon Forrest who was a much much bigger puncher then Floyd couldnt do it then how was floyd gonna do it, When did this bull start of him being a boring fighter?

Damn fine post. Floyd ain't no got damn runner.:good

[john b]

Watching Ricketty "cuddles" Hatton clinch all night is far more BORING than watching Floyd..

Frenzy how long did it take you come up with that analogy. He his an inside boxer and yes he does clinch but if you saw the castillo fight it was castillo initating those clinches.

[Pimp C]

So basically you did not like a prime tyson or castillo, Chico or a pac. Basically you like watching paint dry. You Probably like audley harrison
No I didn't say that, I liked watching a prime Tyson and can appreciate brawlers as well as sluggers but give me a prime Sweet Pea fight anyday over a prime Tyson fight.

[pipe wrenched]

Frenzy how long did it take you come up with that analogy. He his an inside boxer and yes he does clinch but if you saw the castillo fight it was castillo initating those clinches.

Bull Shit.:hat

[Marc]

Pacman: 106 to 130 (24 pounds)

Mayweather: 130 to 154 (24 pounds)

The difference is that Mayweather is undefeated and had success in all the weight classes he was involved.

Pac boxed professionally at 106 when he was 16 years old. If Floyd started out that young he would've been a flyweight for damn sure.

[PacDbest]

Pac boxed professionally at 106 when he was 16 years old. If Floyd started out that young he would've been a flyweight for damn sure.

If he started that early, he will have a loss already. Martin Castillo beat him in the Amateur.

[PacDbest]

Blah Blah Blah and if PBF and Pac were the same size PBF would box circles around him just like JMM did.:deal:hi:

Will not happen. If they have the same size, Floyd will move up in weight & Avoid the Pacman.

[john b]

The Castillo fight?:lol:

Dude

That was AN OLD FADED LIGHTWEIGHT

Castillo is the last person Ricketty should have fought before fighting Mayweather at 147

Hatton is in for a Gatti-esque BEATDOWN..

Mayweather will be landing on him like the US Marines

People will be shocked how much damage Floyd's shots will cause to the WIDE OPEN Hatton..

If you think he was hurt in the Callozzo fight..stick around..

Ok one hatton is a better fighter than a faded gatti. Just because hatton fights aggresively he comes at you for the full 3 minutes and will be able to walk through his shots. The Collazo fight 5 weeks to prepare thats why he lost his stanima. U say he be landed on him like the US marines now if you were on about the british army then i would agree but the US can't even sort Iraq out!

[Toopretty]

Will not happen. If they have the same size, Floyd will move up in weight & Avoid the Pacman.

:rofl:rofl:rofl:nut:nut:nut:nut:lol::lol::lol::lol::patsch

[Toopretty]

Ok one hatton is a better fighter than a faded gatti. Just because hatton fights aggresively he comes at you for the full 3 minutes and will be able to walk through his shots. The Collazo fight 5 weeks to prepare thats why he lost his stanima. U say he be landed on him like the US marines now if you were on about the british army then i would agree but the US can't even sort Iraq out!

:rofl:rofl:nut

Ok...Lets see him do it....the funny thing unlike kosta. by the time hatton walks through the punch...when he gets to his destination floyd wont be there he will be somewhere else punching him again and once hatton starts to get tagged it is all over...Hattons lack of defense and short arms and wild stupid leaping left hook will be his undoing...:yep

[Marc]

If he started that early, he will have a loss already. Martin Castillo beat him in the Amateur.

A possibility, but nonetheless an assumption.

The amateurs is very much different from the pros.

[john b]

:rofl:rofl:nut

Ok...Lets see him do it....the funny thing unlike kosta. by the time hatton walks through the punch...when he gets to his destination floyd wont be there he will be somewhere else punching him again and once hatton starts to get tagged it is all over...Hattons lack of defense and short arms and wild stupid leaping left hook will be his undoing...:yep

ShiftyGrits I am Just Going to say this as its five past one in the morning here in the UK and iam going to bed . i am just sick of people saying that its going to be a gatti like beating when hattons nothing like him. if hatton does get him with that rib crunching shot you can be the best boxer on the planet and still get beat.

[PacDbest]

A possibility, but nonetheless an assumption.

The amateurs is very much different from the pros.

What if Pac is an American? What if he's born in a Boxing Family??? What if he's Dad & Uncle was a Former Champ??? What if He was Promoted by Toprank at an early age??? He could be undefeated too!!!

[Toopretty]

ShiftyGrits I am Just Going to say this as its five past one in the morning here in the UK and iam going to bed . i am just sick of people saying that its going to be a gatti like beating when hattons nothing like him. if hatton does get him with that rib crunching shot you can be the best boxer on the planet and still get beat.

I cant discredit hatton 43-0 I cannot do it..But I just personally think Floyd is a bad match up for him...I am a big "styles make fights" and that is what it is one guy can knock out another guy in 3 rounds and that same guy can lose to another guy..I mean its like a merrygoround. And that is just boxing. Hatto will look good early but get picked apart mid-late.

[RDJ]

I still like Floyd a lot but his recent fights were not that pleasant to watch. He turned the Baldo fight into a major stinker even, it was barely watchable. And for what reason exactly, Baldo was done he could have taken more risks. It's not like he's underpaid, fans pay big money to see him fight.

[Guru_Too_You]

Oscar couldn't even walk thru Floyd's punches..Only a fool thinks Hatton can do it..

Stop with the EXCUSES..Hatton had a FULL CAMP to prepare for Collazo..Don't lie:lol:

Ricketty's last fight was against Castillo at 140

Floyd's last fight was DLH at 154


Hatton wouldn't last 3 rounds against Oscar

Hatton had his date and had been training. Collazo had the short camp.

[bigtime9]

What if Pac is an American? What if he's born in a Boxing Family??? What if he's Dad & Uncle was a Former Champ??? What if He was Promoted by Toprank at an early age??? He could be undefeated too!!!


that's why floyd is fighting a prime ring champ and pac is fighting old barrerra again who is on his last leg:hey pac hasn't fought a prime undefeated fighter ever the likes of corrales or hatton. so all that crap about pac being p4p#1 is garbage and belongs in the sewr with pacs recent comp.:deal

[Guru_Too_You]

Ha

So the Ricketty Hatton fan switched the shit around?

I ain't surprised

Hatton had his HBO date for months and he was shopping for a lightweight to fight, but HBO kept shooting their opponents down. Then, as the fight approached fastly, they found Collazo. They never planned on fighting at welterweight, but their insistance on fighting a lightweight left them without an opponent like a month or month and a half before the fight.

[Toopretty]

Ha

So the Ricketty Hatton fan switched the shit around?

I ain't surprised


:rofl:rofl:rofl He did have a full frigging camp..lol and if he didnt why...that fight was not taken on short notice...lol...there was a lot of pre fight build up and people were trying to figure out who collazo was..Yeah hatton would take 5 weeks to train for a fight in a higher division. Go to the ESB archives I was here..Read the old articles..Hatton fan bull crap. First hatton had the flu. Then he had terrible side effects from putting on 7 pounds that he usually dehydrates himself to get at the 140 weigh in....lol it does not stop..CALZAGHE FANS ARE WORSE...They will commit mass suicide if Calzaghe loses....or make up some of the craziest conspiracy theories known to all man kind...as an excuse.

[brooklyn1550]

He can be boring at times, but some times, he is rather exciting. I don't call him a runner. He boxes safe and does what he has to do for the win.

[cardstars]

Mayweather has a lot of problems. First off the guy is completely unlikeable in the first place. Talk about a headcase. And as stated previously he always talks up huge expectations and then plays it safe when the bell rings. His biggest problem is that he can sometimes do more bad for the sport then good. I ordered the DLH fight and had a party for a bunch of friends that don't follow boxing and the general consensus from them after the fight was "that was boring,,,wasn't this supposed to be a "superfight"?". Boxing enthusiasts typically want to see the guy knocked on his ass and people who don't watch much do not want to pay to see the guy fight because he is too "boring". I enjoy watching him fight because I realize his skill and see the things that other boxers just cannot do, but is he my favorite boxer to watch? Hell no. Its like a football team that wins with their amazing defense. They get the win but it typically makes for a pretty damn boring game.

[Scar]

Great movement(which requires great stamina) is instantly labeled as "running" by newbies, fools will remain fools I guess.

[Marc]

Great movement(which requires great stamina) is instantly labeled as "running" by newbies, fools will remain fools I guess.

The moderator has spoken.:good :D

[Koa]

First time I saw him fight, I was drawn to him. Thought he would be something like the next Roy Jones Jr. Loved the guy up until he fought Arturo Gatti and opened his mouth.

He's brilliant in the ring, I like his boxing, but I wouldn't mind reading about someone dropping him on his head a few times on the street. The guy needs an ass whooping.

Completely unpolished, repulsive personality coupled with a peurile intellect. Has no sense of modesty or graciousness.

[pit]

The difference is Pac always Looking for the Best opponent & destroys them. While PBF avoided the best & Pick his opponent & content on winning by points.

Pac fought 2 29 yr old P4P & HOF fighters & Knocked them out in an exciting fight.


Floyd fought a former 33 yr old P4p & HOF in DLH & just wins by a boring Split Decision.

Pac came in a beat two guys that had already beat the shit out of one another, before he was even known. he then went on to beat a morrales that was clearly on the down slide after his lost to Raheem at 135 and then going back down to 130 and losing to pac .. other then two tired war horses in morales and Berrera , and his Draw with Marguez ,, who has Pac fought ?

[Guru_Too_You]

Great movement(which requires great stamina) is instantly labeled as "running" by newbies, fools will remain fools I guess.

:good

I dare most of the posters to try to move as much and throw as much as Floyd does for TWO or THREE rounds.

[koko of phil]

If you are just a boxing enthusiast in general and you watch Floyd's style of boxing a lot of times, then you can really claim he is boring. But if you are his fan or nuthugger, naturally you will say he is a complete fighter, exciting, and his running style is outstanding. Or worse you will say PBF is boxing.

[Theo]

Hatton had his HBO date for months and he was shopping for a lightweight to fight, but HBO kept shooting their opponents down. Then, as the fight approached fastly, they found Collazo. They never planned on fighting at welterweight, but their insistance on fighting a lightweight left them without an opponent like a month or month and a half before the fight.

wrong wrong wrong, i cant even be arsed going in to this... but collazo was switched in with 7 weeks of camp to go, and the weight change was then made to 147.

hatton was first down to fight a 140 pounder (who HBO had agreed), however he injured himself in training.

They had another 140'er lined up and also got offered collazo, ricky saw a opertunity to make himself a 2 division champ, and against his teams wishes got the match agreed.

/FACT./

[Illmatic]

I am not quite following your logic but if I am not mistaken, Mosley moved 4 weight classes.

Whats there not to get? If Mosley moved to middleweight and won every round against Taylor, I wont say that he isn't a great fighter b/c he didnt knock him out, I won't say that he's avoiding the best in Felix Sturm or any of the other bullshit excuses people put on floyd.

[Marnoff]

The difference is Pac always Looking for the Best opponent & destroys them. While PBF avoided the best & Pick his opponent & content on winning by points.

Pac fought 2 29 yr old P4P & HOF fighters & Knocked them out in an exciting fight.


Floyd fought a former 33 yr old P4p & HOF in DLH & just wins by a boring Split Decision.

Pacquaio drew with a man he knocked down three times in the first round....

[Illmatic]

Pacquaio drew with a man he knocked down three times in the first round....

b.c of a scoring error. I will always call that fight a win for Pac

[Guru_Too_You]

wrong wrong wrong, i cant even be arsed going in to this... but collazo was switched in with 7 weeks of camp to go, and the weight change was then made to 147.

hatton was first down to fight a 140 pounder (who HBO had agreed), however he injured himself in training.

They had another 140'er lined up and also got offered collazo, ricky saw a opertunity to make himself a 2 division champ, and against his teams wishes got the match agreed.

/FACT./

Wrong. Please name the 140 pounder they had lined up, I dare you.

I know for a fact that Freitas and Diaz were two of their targets, both lightweights. I'll go find the article right now.

[Guru_Too_You]

b.c of a scoring error. I will always call that fight a win for Pac

You score the rest of the fight the same as the judges? I still have Pacquiao losing that bout even with the correct scoring of the first round.

[Illmatic]

You score the rest of the fight the same as the judges? I still have Pacquiao losing that bout even with the correct scoring of the first round.

Ive never sat down and actually scored every round, but the fact that the judge incorrectly scored the first round, which gave Marquez the draw, sits very wrong with me.

[Guru_Too_You]

wrong wrong wrong, i cant even be arsed going in to this... but collazo was switched in with 7 weeks of camp to go, and the weight change was then made to 147.

hatton was first down to fight a 140 pounder (who HBO had agreed), however he injured himself in training.

They had another 140'er lined up and also got offered collazo, ricky saw a opertunity to make himself a 2 division champ, and against his teams wishes got the match agreed.

/FACT./
Here's Dobson confirming that Juan Diaz was their second target after Baldomir. He later goes on to say that they would love to have a bout with Diego Corrales as well, and that they would like Freitas but didnt think he'd accept. 3 Lightweights discussed so far, one junior welterweight and one welterweight.

I find it funny that they were confident to attack both divisions until after the Collazo bout.

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[Guru_Too_You]

wrong wrong wrong, i cant even be arsed going in to this... but collazo was switched in with 7 weeks of camp to go, and the weight change was then made to 147.

hatton was first down to fight a 140 pounder (who HBO had agreed), however he injured himself in training.

They had another 140'er lined up and also got offered collazo, ricky saw a opertunity to make himself a 2 division champ, and against his teams wishes got the match agreed.

/FACT./

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Freitas, Gatti, Castillo and Corrales as his four targets.

Shall I continue Theo?

[john b]

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Freitas, Gatti, Castillo and Corrales as his four targets.

Shall I continue Theo?

I'll Continue for you he was supposed to be fighting Lacanzo but he had damaged his hands.

[brownshell]

Floyd can handle Hatton's power. He handled Oscar's and Oscar was much bigger and stronger than he. Hatton will land some shots and then be amazed and shockeed at Floyd's strengh and speed. Hatton will be cut up and stopped or beaten to bruised mess.

[john b]

OScar had him on the back foot and some of them punches had him thinking.Hatton will be able to pressure him for three minutes around not like Oscar who took a breather for thirty seconds or so.

[achillesthegreat]

Wrong. Please name the 140 pounder they had lined up, I dare you.

I know for a fact that Freitas and Diaz were two of their targets, both lightweights. I'll go find the article right now.
Juan Lazcano was actually the man lined up. His last three fights were at 140. He'd beaten - Ben Tackie 27-5-1, Courtney Burton 21-4 and Marco Angel Perez 21-7.

He hurt his hand and they had to quickly find a replacement. Eventually they got Collazo with about 5 weeks until fight time.

[Thread Stealer]

OScar had him on the back foot and some of them punches had him thinking.Hatton will be able to pressure him for three minutes around not like Oscar who took a breather for thirty seconds or so.

Hatton presents a different type of challenge than De La Hoya.

Hatton wants to get up close and pressure. He has better stamina than De La Hoya, and is more active. He goes to the body with more consistency.

On the other hand, Hatton is smaller, less rangy, doesn't have the jab De La Hoya does, and also isn't as skilled at parrying shots as Oscar is.

[motorcity]

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[janeschicken]

I hate Floyd with a passion, but even I can admit his style has become more crowd-pleasing of late.