How come there has never been a Hearns V Curry thread?

[TIGEREDGE]

this fight was a possible since there primes were around the same time

leonard v curry comes up every week

i give the 1984-85 curry a great chance against the 1980-81 welterweight hearns based on hearns struggles with weight. if curry nails him with the left hook like leonard did it my god

but 1982-84 Hearns at JM beats any version of curry

[Chucky]

It's because no one wonders what would have happened between Hearns and Curry. Hearns would have killed him.

[Flea Man]

Hearns by sparkage.

Curry was a fluid boxer but more of a one-shot sniper at times........he was not exactly hard to hit and no matter how good he was, Hearns blasts him out. Curry would find someone with equal/better handspeed in front of him who wasn't gonna' wait for his moment to take him out. He would go for it straight away and I think Curry would be stopped soon after.

[Sweet Pea]

Hearns is one of the best examples of a head to head monster there is. He simply has too much going for him physically and technically for 99.9% of fighters from WW to JMW, Curry being no exception. Hearns just has every advantage in this matchup.

[Robbi]

Curry would do well to last 6 rounds. Hearns was a hell of a fast starter, usually. His power and jab, etc, too much for the Lone Star Cobra.

[natonic]

I'd give Curry maybe a 1 in 20 chance of "McCrorying" Hearns. But on the whole, I think Tommy's speed, length and jab would present issues Curry never faced before. I think Curry was a great fighter in his short prime and I don't think he'd go easy but I think he'd go in about 11 rounds.

[My dinner with Conteh]

There has. Curry vs Hearns it was called. Tommy won that one too.

[sidthehat]

I give Curry about a 30% chance. That said the way McCallum faked him to body then sparked him with left hook, I could see Tommy like against Duran jabbing downstairs then clapping him with the right hand and it being goodnight.

[JohnThomas1]

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[teeto]

I think the ring announcer for the winner of this thread should do it like this,

'YOUR WINNER, AND STILL THE MOST OVERRATED BOXER ON EAST SIDE BOXING'S CLASSIC FORUM, THOMAS 'THE HITMAN' HEARNS'

[JohnThomas1]

I think the ring announcer for the winner of this thread should do it like this,

'YOUR WINNER, AND STILL THE MOST OVERRATED BOXER ON EAST SIDE BOXING'S CLASSIC FORUM, THOMAS 'THE HITMAN' HEARNS'

Picking Curry, are we?

[Sweet Pea]

Oh Jesus Teeto, McGrain didn't get you on this, did he?

[Mantequilla]

as Lionel Rose has told us in general recently, it's Duran.

[teeto]

Nar i'm not picking Curry, but come on lets take a trip down memory lane, i've always felt the comments made here about Hearns are over the top, and when i saw the apparent percentage figures above i had to speak out.

Sorry, i know you didn't say 99.9% of great welters and middles Pea, so i suppose i might agree, but is just where the emphasis is and what the implications seem to be that get me sometimes with Hearns on here.

[Addie]

Nar i'm not picking Curry, but come on lets take a trip down memory lane, i've always felt the comments made here about Hearns are over the top, and when i saw the apparent percentage figures above i had to speak out.

Sorry, i know you didn't say 99.9% of great welters and middles Pea, so i suppose i might agree, but is just where the emphasis is and what the implications seem to be that get me sometimes with Hearns on here.

He'd have been right if Hearns didn't have fragile punch resistance. I don't think he had a glass jaw, only hard hitters knocked him out, but Curry could whack at 147lb. He had the skills to land and the power to stop the fight, although I'd pick Hearns 8/10.

[teeto]

as Lionel Rose has told us in general recently, it's Duran.
I think Hearns would beat him head to head for the bauble, and plus, Lionel Rose is the equivalent of that female judge that robbed Lennox against Evander (Eugena Williams?), so his opinion doesn't count.

[teeto]

He'd have been right if Hearns didn't have fragile punch resistance. I don't think he had a glass jaw, only hard hitters knocked him out, but Curry could whack at 147lb. He had the skills to land and the power to stop the fight, although I'd pick Hearns 8/10.
Yeah i'm picking Hearns as well, it just cracks me up how some will have you believe (not anyone on this thread as yet though) that at welterweight Hearns was a defensive wizard or something, the man never had a glass jaw, and he had different gears of offense to go through and was varied in his attack, could box, but he can be hit, and can be beaten by other greats in my hunmblest of opinions.

[teeto]

At 154 pounds i believe Hearns may the best there has been however, much more composed there, and complete.

[Addie]

Yeah i'm picking Hearns as well, it just cracks me up how some will have you believe (not anyone on this thread as yet though) that at welterweight Hearns was a defensive wizard or something, the man never had a glass jaw, and he had different gears of offense to go through and was varied in his attack, could box, but he can be hit, and can be beaten by other greats in my hunmblest of opinions.

It's not even an opinion as much as its a fact. He WAS beaten by other greats at 147 and 160.

Hearns was almost the complete package, but when he got hit on the button by a strong puncher, he showed the effects more often than not. It isn't glass, and I feel a little cliche to have even mentioned the issue, but that was probably his greatest weakness. Heaven knows, if Hearns had a better chin, he would have beaten Leonard. That would have been huge.

[Robbi]

Hearns with a "Robinson" like chin at WW and MW would have been a serious ombre. He was one anyway, even with a slightly shakey chin.

[teeto]

It's not even an opinion as much as its a fact. He WAS beaten by other greats at 147 and 160.

Hearns was almost the complete package, but when he got hit on the button by a strong puncher, he showed the effects more often than not. It isn't glass, and I feel a little cliche to have even mentioned the issue, but that was probably his greatest weakness. Heaven knows, if Hearns had a better chin, he would have beaten Leonard. That would have been huge.
Yeah i'm not narrow minded to the point where i'll say just because other great welters and middles beat him then they all would though, that's not what i'm saying. Hearns can definitely beat some and some beat him, that's all i'm saying with the overrated thing. It's more an accumulation aspect over time of posting here that had me saying it more than anything, it's at the point now where whenever i say his name i let everyone know i think he's overrated, as you can see.

(kidding)

[teeto]

Hearns with a "Robinson" like chin at WW and MW would have been a serious ombre. He was one anyway, even with a slightly shakey chin.
Yeah he was one anyway, defo.

[Addie]

Hearns with a "Robinson" like chin at WW and MW would have been a serious ombre. He was one anyway, even with a slightly shakey chin.

He would have lost the fight to Hagler regardless, you don't beat Marvin with a broken hand. He'd have beaten Leonard (twice) and Barkley (twice).

Of course, we could all say "Leonard with Jackson like power" would be unbeatable. The fact is, he didn't have Jackson like power.

Is there a mythical match-up at 147lb you'd pick to get the better of Hearns?

[Robbi]

Is there a mythical match-up at 147lb you'd pick to get the better of Hearns?

Robinson, for sure.

[Bill Butcher]

this fight was a possible since there primes were around the same time

leonard v curry comes up every week

i give the 1984-85 curry a great chance against the 1980-81 welterweight hearns based on hearns struggles with weight. if curry nails him with the left hook like leonard did it my god

but 1982-84 Hearns at JM beats any version of curry

Id fancy any Hearns to KO Curry, nothing bad against Donald Curry but the styles favour Hearns greatly IMO.

[Bill Butcher]

Hearns with Hagler`s chin would likely be the hardest fighter to beat in any weight EVER.

A complete nightmare for every fighter.

[Mr Butt]

dont not rate curry but early ko for hearns

[Robbi]

Hearns with Hagler`s chin would likely be the hardest fighter to beat in any weight EVER.

A complete nightmare for every fighter.

Personally, I think Hopkins is like a Hearns/Hagler hybrid.

[Addie]

Personally, I think Hopkins is like a Hearns/Hagler hybrid.

Your a big Hopkins fan, we know that already Robbi. :lol:

[buzzsaw]

Curry would test Tommy but "The Hitman" is just the more skilled fighter with more tools.

[JohnThomas1]

He'd have been right if Hearns didn't have fragile punch resistance. I don't think he had a glass jaw, only hard hitters knocked him out, but Curry could whack at 147lb. He had the skills to land and the power to stop the fight, although I'd pick Hearns 8/10.

Curry's chin is not exactly great either. Hearns actually took on board a shitload of leather against Hagler before succumbing. Curry would never have handled that much IMO. Granted that was at 160.

[Addie]

Curry's chin is not exactly great either. Hearns actually took on board a shitload of leather against Hagler before succumbing. Curry would never have handled that much IMO. Granted that was at 160.

Absolutely.

Point I was making, if Curry landed with a picture book left hook then Hearns could be on the floor and not get up.

[TIGEREDGE]

Hearns with a "Robinson" like chin at WW and MW would have been a serious ombre. He was one anyway, even with a slightly shakey chin.


he would of been the 80's robinson. extremely close to unbeatable

[JohnThomas1]

Absolutely.

Point I was making, if Curry landed with a picture book left hook then Hearns could be on the floor and not get up.

I actually disagree for once. Curry, for all his reputation was anything but a bonafideone punch banger and i think the McCrory KO leads many astray. McCrory was practically visibly shaking that night and he froze up embarrassingly. He's (Milt) also much less tested than Hearns. Leonard landed a lot of leather on Hearns without putting him out and i can't see Curry doing what Ray failed to do. Obviously such a punch could cause havoc but i really can't see it finishing the fight.

[Robbi]

I actually disagree for once. Curry, for all his reputation was anything but a bonafideone punch banger and i think the McCrory KO leads many astray. McCrory was practically visibly shaking that night and he froze up embarrassingly. He's (Milt) also much less tested than Hearns. Leonard landed a lot of leather on Hearns without putting him out and i can't see Curry doing what Ray failed to do. Obviously such a punch could cause havoc but i really can't see it finishing the fight.

He'll always be known for his technical skills and boxing ability rather than his power. Leonard was a more powerful puncher. Curry was a sharp-shooter.