View Full Version : For you brits. Froch's stock just rose big time
christo
06-19-2009, 11:08 PM
He was just involved in the FOTY with a big,strong, puncher in diaconu.
He manhandled at times and outfought a bigger guy who's very dangerous
and undefeated. Pascal is also the new WBC lightheavyweight champ right
after a loss with your very own Carl "the cobra" Froch.
It rose in that Pascal is performing well, but I wouldn't go overboard. It's not as if he beat Chad Dawson, he beat somebody that won a vacant title and was as untested as Pascal was when he fought Froch.
djoc175
06-19-2009, 11:13 PM
Agree but it sounds like you're overlooking the Taylor W
christo
06-19-2009, 11:13 PM
It rose in that Pascal is performing well, but I wouldn't go overboard. It's not as if he beat Chad Dawson, he beat somebody that won a vacant title and was as untested as Pascal was when he fought Froch.
You know the fight is over right?
Was going to say djoc it does nothing really after the Taylor win. Diacanu is good but its like saying Haye stock will rise if Mormeck beats Cunningham
Yes...
Pascal has been performing well since the loss.
But let's be honest, Diaconu hasn't done a lot except beat Rico Hoye who ain't that good, and struggled with Chris Henry. He's a good fighter but he's not proven greatly.
Froch beat Taylor, I mean that overshadows Jean Pascal beating somebody..really.
djoc175
06-19-2009, 11:20 PM
Yes...
Pascal has been performing well since the loss.
But let's be honest, Diaconu hasn't done a lot except beat Rico Hoye who ain't that good, and struggled with Chris Henry. He's a good fighter but he's not proven greatly.
Froch beat Taylor, I mean that overshadows Jean Pascal beating somebody..really.
Was going to say djoc it does nothing really after the Taylor win. Diacanu is good but its like saying Haye stock will rise if Mormeck beats Cunningham
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I see where the guys coming from though.
It helps in that Pascal is making something of himself, he's not living off the plaudits he got for fighting Froch. Because a guy could easily turn round and say Pascal had never done nothing before he fought Froch. He's becoming something, a good fighter that is proving himself. He needs to do more, but its a start.
Not sure who he could fight next though. Ain't a lot around in the LHW's.
djoc175
06-19-2009, 11:25 PM
It certainly does Froch no harm.You could say he has another world champ on his slate to add to Taylor and Reid.
Farmboxer
06-20-2009, 01:48 AM
Yep, Froch is rising.
TIGEREDGE
06-20-2009, 03:02 AM
he may be far from a great fighter but froch is certainly great great entertainment
saturday_kid
06-20-2009, 03:34 AM
It definitely looks favourable on Froch, people might have said, who was Pascal he'd never done anything.
Glad Pascal won this one, was really impressed with him in the Froch fight, might try and pick up a copy of this fight.
BremnerBomber
06-20-2009, 05:28 AM
Yes it has because, most of the peeps who don't like Froch (Usually Joe C fans) said that Pascal was a nobody and nowhere near World Class, but know they cannot say that
BremnerBomber
06-20-2009, 05:29 AM
And another thing is that Froch actually beat a future belt holder, where Joe usually beat up on EX belt holders
rumour24tiger
06-20-2009, 06:09 AM
And another thing is that Froch actually beat a future belt holder, where Joe usually beat up on EX belt holdersabsolutely.
and also, Calzaghe said that "Froch beat a bum" in Pascal, which clearly wasn't the case then, and definitely isn't the case now.
it has become clear that Froch beat a world class warrior, in Jean Pascal.
Also, ppl are overlooking that Pascal went 12 hard rounds, won a big event 13,000+ fans. I bet Dawson will be calling out Pascal, just so "Bad Chad" doesn't have to fight in half empty arenas where they give away tickets.
Flea Man
06-20-2009, 07:55 AM
pascal should fight cloud arter he becomes the 1st man to legitimately stop woods. after cloud v pascal dawson will have someone to genuinely test him.
icemax
06-20-2009, 08:04 AM
......arter he becomes the 1st man to legitimately stop woods.
Firstly, Cloud won't stop Woods, secondly what about RJJ?
robpalmer135
06-20-2009, 09:09 AM
Dawson vs Pascal unification is a big fight next year.
achillesthegreat
06-20-2009, 09:16 AM
Frochs stock definitely rose.
NO MAS
06-20-2009, 09:29 AM
Dawson vs Pascal unification is a big fight next year.
I think that Froch can beat them both IMO......:yep
cityofgod
06-20-2009, 09:32 AM
Chad Dawson is massively overhyped.
Flea Man
06-20-2009, 12:30 PM
[QUOTE=icemax;4308321]Firstly, Cloud won't stop Woods, secondly what about RJJ?[/Qexactl
exactly, hence legitimately. i mean spark out ,not overwhelm . cloud will smash woods to bits.
"TKO"
06-20-2009, 12:49 PM
Yes it has because, most of the peeps who don't like Froch (Usually Joe C fans) said that Pascal was a nobody and nowhere near World Class, but know they cannot say that
I don't dislike Froch, he is growing on me quite a bit, but the term I used was "unproven". Pascal was an unbeaten prospect and obviously had that "don't know how to lose" mentality, but was some way short of proven world class. He has today taken a big step towards rectifying that, which reflects well on "The Cobra".
"TKO"
06-20-2009, 12:50 PM
pascal should fight cloud arter he becomes the 1st man to legitimately stop woods. after cloud v pascal dawson will have someone to genuinely test him.
What about Jones?
"TKO"
06-20-2009, 12:52 PM
[quote=icemax;4308321]Firstly, Cloud won't stop Woods, secondly what about RJJ?[/Qexactl
exactly, hence legitimately. i mean spark out ,not overwhelm . cloud will smash woods to bits.
:huh Silly comment. Jones did stop him legitimately. That's what a stoppage is, when the referee halts the contest. If he sparks him out, that's a knockout. I await with interest to see whether Cloud is as good as you think, I am aware he stopped Gonzalez which is impressive.
Flea Man
06-20-2009, 01:16 PM
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:huh Silly comment. Jones did stop him legitimately. That's what a stoppage is, when the referee halts the contest. If he sparks him out, that's a knockout. I await with interest to see whether Cloud is as good as you think, I am aware he stopped Gonzalez which is impressive.
you know what i mean :good
"TKO"
06-20-2009, 01:46 PM
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you know what i mean :good
Ha, fair enough. You rate cloud that highly then?
mgmvegas
06-20-2009, 01:57 PM
it's a good win..how many brits have beaten guys at a world level who went on further after a deafeat ??
as much as i love ricky and joe who have they beat that went on after ??
faisal
06-20-2009, 02:01 PM
i hope pascal takes out dawson, dawson isnt know for his power so he could mix it up more then he did with addrian
Haye done it with Fragomeni
John18
06-20-2009, 02:37 PM
Dawson needs to stop fighting old men.
Assuming Froch can stop getting hit as much as he did against Taylor, he takes Bad Chad to the cleaners.
mrbassie
06-20-2009, 03:50 PM
Haven't seen too much of Dawson, wasn't all that impressed when he beat Tarver-who was awful, he (Dawson) was far too cautious.
cityofgod
06-20-2009, 03:51 PM
Right now, Froch could possibly make case for spanking everyone at 160 - 175.
He'd give them hell whatever the verdict.
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