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1boricua
09-04-2007, 10:38 PM
A well trained Benitez beats Mayweather Jr. at any weight. Benitez was one of the greatest in boxing history. His only problem was he does not like to train.

Toopretty
09-04-2007, 10:42 PM
Crap..cripity crap.....crap crap...he was one of the greatest puerto rican boxers in history...Floyd HAS proved himself and will do so further come December and next year.

Jack
09-04-2007, 10:44 PM
Benitez was just as good, maybe better, defensively, but had a much better attack. He wins this one by UD clearly.

brooklyn1550
09-04-2007, 10:48 PM
If Benitez is at the top of his game and so if Floyd, I'd go with Benitez by decision.

Toopretty
09-04-2007, 10:50 PM
Benitez was just as good, maybe better, defensively, but had a much better attack. He wins this one by UD clearly.

FUCKKKK NO...he did not have better defense...:patsch:roll: Man these dickheads dont give credit when it is in due time.....Floyd has every aspect of defense mastered hands down from rolling punches to using gloves to even turning with body shots and can fight using mutiple styles of defense and change up at will...get a grip....It was hard to hit Benitez clean...but it is hard to hit fucking floyd at all....:-(:-(:-(

1boricua
09-04-2007, 10:55 PM
FUCKKKK NO...he did not have better defense...:patsch:roll: Man these dickheads dont give credit when it is in due time.....Floyd has every aspect of defense mastered hands down from rolling punches to using gloves to even turning with body shots and can fight using mutiple styles of defense and change up at will...get a grip....It was hard to hit Benitez clean...but it is hard to hit fucking floyd at all....:-(:-(:-(

Benitez defense, in his prime, was the best in boxing hystory, his nickname was "The Radar" because he can see every punch coming to him and avoid it. Floyd had never faced someone with better defense than him and that's Benitez.

Toopretty
09-04-2007, 10:57 PM
You have them confused, guys like Whitaker and Benitez were the ones who completely avoided and slipped punches, Floyd is the one who rolls them, so doesn't take the full force of them ,but gets hit a lot, just not clean. Benitez had better movement and was slicker to avoid punches, similar to Whitaker, cept he moved more than Pea.


Benetiz had nothing for a body shot..and Floyd looks for his offense more then Benetiz who was strictly a counter puncher..Floyd got hit when he knew he could take it and to be aggressive to get a guy out of there.....Floyd mixed his offense in better b/c he does not have one punch power....Floyd does avoid punches all together when he fights a benetiz style fight IE corrales fight....

bigtime9
09-04-2007, 11:14 PM
Benetiz had nothing for a body shot..and Floyd looks for his offense more then Benetiz who was strictly a counter puncher..Floyd got hit when he knew he could take it and to be aggressive to get a guy out of there.....Floyd mixed his offense in better b/c he does not have one punch power....Floyd does avoid punches all together when he fights a benetiz style fight IE corrales fight....

you are talking to guys who hate floyd with a passion. the fact that benitez owned a brawler like duran doesn't mean he would beat a fighter like floyd. floyd as a boxer is light years ahead of duran and benitez.

bigtime9
09-04-2007, 11:18 PM
You need to die painfully.

is that your boxing argument:lol: you need to get banned for real:hey

Titan1
09-05-2007, 08:26 AM
Benitez would decision Floyd in a close fight, he was just better defensively and fought just as good,at least, competition.

Raggamuffin
09-05-2007, 10:42 AM
I'd go with Benitez also, based on ability an class of opponents

Fedor Em
09-05-2007, 10:50 AM
You need to die painfully.

That is the first thought that came to my head when he said Duran was a "brawler"

PR Boxing Lore
09-05-2007, 11:03 AM
you are talking to guys who hate floyd with a passion. the fact that benitez owned a brawler like duran doesn't mean he would beat a fighter like floyd. floyd as a boxer is light years ahead of duran and benitez.
:patsch

PR Boxing Lore
09-05-2007, 11:10 AM
Great matchup 1 boricua, it's a toss up on this one, but if its a prime Benitez, I'll go with my boy "El Radar".

Tu papa
09-05-2007, 11:15 AM
If it wasnt for Benitez's lack of training/bad habits during his prime, he would have been better than he was.

It is always cool to say that the past guys were better. It makes you seem more knowledgable. I hate that. Benitez was a great fighter, a master boxer with one of the best defences all time. As much as I want PBF to lose every fight (I root against him) Floyd is one of the greatest. ANd I am afraid, when it is all said and done, Foyd will be looked at higher than Benitez. Sucks though, I dont like PBF.

This fight wont be easy. Toss up, maybe, but if I had to bet, I would bet on PBF UD.

PS I will be rooting for PBF for the first time ever on December. Dont know why, but I will.

Illmatic
09-05-2007, 12:28 PM
the fact that benitez owned a brawler like duran doesn't mean he would beat a fighter like floyd..

what about the fact that benitez beat a hall of famer in Antonio Cervantez? Or lost a close fight to SRL who is a top 10 fighter of all time? Or fought another close fight against Hearns, one of the most powerful welters of all time, who had incredible boxing skills as well?

Guru_Too_You
09-05-2007, 12:40 PM
LOL.

I can't believe this is a thread this morning, for I watched Leonard-Duran I and then Benitez subsequently last night.

Immediately I started thinking about how Floyd would fare with both.

Honestly, I feel that Benitez is a better defensive boxer than Floyd, but he wouldnt press the issue enough offensively to take advantage of Floyd's rolling of punches. He sat around for too much of the bout with SRL, and I feel he might do the same with Floyd. Not to mention, I think that Floyd at 28 is better than Leonard at 24.

I think that Floyd would stil land the cleaner more effective shots throughout the bout, but man this is a very very hard fight to call.

I'd say Floyd by a very very slim margin.

PowerPuncher
09-05-2007, 01:24 PM
This would be a very close fight with each fighters having advantages and close in their strengths.

Mayweather has better speed of hand and foot, has a more suttle defense, which is more felxible, and hes possibly more patient. Benitez is the better in fighter with more power with an excellent defense. Floyd is always making suttle adaptions and is more focused imo

I think Floyds handspeed beats Benitez to the punch forcing Benitez to come forward more allowing Floyd to counter. It would be very close but Mayweather edges it 8 rounds to 7 for me.

Rickypr18
09-05-2007, 01:42 PM
you are talking to guys who hate floyd with a passion. the fact that benitez owned a brawler like duran doesn't mean he would beat a fighter like floyd. floyd as a boxer is light years ahead of duran and benitez.
You are retarded.

kg0208
09-05-2007, 02:10 PM
is that your boxing argument:lol: you need to get banned for real:hey

As opposed to your non argument? A made up opinion that very few share (how good Duran and Benitez were) and then saying that just because Benitez beat one guy doesn't mean he'll beat another....with no elaboration on what he would do against the ACTUAL fighter he has been pitted against?

yesihavearm
09-05-2007, 02:57 PM
If you dont think Benitez's defence was better than Floyd then you've clearly never watched him fight.

1boricua
09-05-2007, 07:34 PM
If you dont think Benitez's defence was better than Floyd then you've clearly never watched him fight.

You are 100% right

Toopretty
09-05-2007, 07:45 PM
You are 100% right

Wrong...not better..different...but not better...If heaven forbid floyd go completely defensive like he did with hearns..lol...floyd would not get touched as well...Hearns was able to get to the body and Ray was too..Ray was head hunting with benetiz...floyd is better at avoiding body shots..as he rolls them too against the ropes not taking full impact..floyd displays the same against the ropes routine as benetiz every single fight...When Zab landed one punch on floyd and rocked him..and had him hurt a little and could not land not one more punch through floyds guard with his blazing hand speed I knew Floyds defense is probably up there with the best if not the best all around defense. Floyd would of fought the same kind of fight with hearns...RUNNNNN..lol

Toopretty
09-05-2007, 07:47 PM
That same handspeed of Zab finished off Spinks who is also a defensive fighter..not nearly as good as the mentioned fighters though.

Pimp C
09-05-2007, 07:50 PM
Great matchup never thought of this one before. I'd say PBF in a close fight.

1boricua
09-05-2007, 10:37 PM
If Benitez is at the top of his game and so if Floyd, I'd go with Benitez by decision.
Benitez UD

bigtime9
09-05-2007, 10:41 PM
why am I not surprised that all the puerto ricans picked benitez. :lol: :nut sorry guys but floyd is a class above wilfred benitez. floyd by UD:deal

jecxbox
09-05-2007, 11:55 PM
Honestly, I feel that Benitez is a better defensive boxer than Floyd, but he wouldnt press the issue enough offensively to take advantage of Floyd's rolling of punches.
you can same the same exact thing for Floyd..I personally think when Floyd losses he will lose a UD for being to inactive offensively. He didn't throw many punches against the bigger DLH. vs Hatton/Cotto/Mosley he definitely will need to increase his output. He was able to do this against DLH because DLH fought in spurts so this allowed Floyd to fight in Spurts.

jecxbox
09-05-2007, 11:56 PM
Originally Posted by Sweet Pea
You need to die painfully.

I agree.

carras
09-06-2007, 12:17 AM
@ 140 it's a toss up
147 I'd take Benitez by close decision.

carras
09-06-2007, 12:18 AM
why am I not surprised that all the puerto ricans picked benitez. :lol: :nut sorry guys but floyd is a class above wilfred benitez. floyd by UD:deal


right.....
we should listen to the guy with 5 master degrees right?

just drop dead somewhere smalltime.

Lampley
09-06-2007, 01:14 AM
Wow, what a chess match. I'd go Floyd ever so slightly at 140, and a pick'em at 147.

In his heart, I think Floyd has a little bit more there than Wilfred, although I say that knowing it can't be proven. He just seems more able to rise to the occasion, doing whatever he has to do to win.

But this would be a damn close fight.

joito3
09-06-2007, 09:51 AM
Benitez wins by UD or late tko ... Floyd at 147 does not throw combinations !!!! He threw no combos against Baldomir or DLH ! He threw combos against zab who is smaller than him !

Benitez at 5'10" and the naturally much larger man with the same set of skills would win the fight !

Floyd's style of 1 punch and out will not work against benitez !!!!!! Benitez was able to slip 10 punches in a row on the dam ROPES against TOMMY HEARNS !!!!

What makes anyone think that floyd will land a single punch on benitez ? If floyd wants to make this fight remotely close he will have to throw combos over and over and over !

Someone said floyd is the better counter puncher but I have to disagree benitez was one the greatest counter punchers of all time !

RafaelGonzal
10-20-2007, 08:24 PM
Benitez would own his ass easily, he has better defense and is an all around better counterpuncher and strategist. The higher the weight ,the easier it is for Benitez..........

chimba
10-20-2007, 09:16 PM
Benitez easy UD. I really cant see Floyd winning this one.. He has no advantage

acb
10-20-2007, 09:23 PM
Leonard was able to box Wilfredo's ears off imagine what a better boxer in Floyd would do. Floyd by easy UD with possibility of late round TKO similiar to the Corrales fight.

Have you seen the fight?

chimba
10-20-2007, 09:26 PM
Leonard was able to box Wilfredo's ears off imagine what a better boxer in Floyd would do. Floyd by easy UD with possibility of late round TKO similiar to the Corrales fight.

Yeah PBF will lose to Leonard too

acb
10-20-2007, 09:27 PM
Yeah PBF will lose to Leonard too

Exactly.