Witter vs Harris - WBC Light Welterweight Title

[stake501]

I am shocked at the lack of interest in this fight.

Anyway its on in two days....its on sky....

Its for a genuine belt, and possibly for a claim to be "the man" in the division with Hatton moving up to 147.

There is a little bit of beef between them, so lets discuss.

Who are people going for and why.

I think Witter to conservatively fight and get a UD.

[elle]

It probably doesn't help that this fight clashes with the Morris v Simpson fight which is also televised Friday night.

As for the beef between them, do you mean the war of words they
are conducting on the web? Apparently, Harris has left some cheeky
messages on Witters MySpace.

Think this will be a close fight but hope Witter wins.

[ron u.k.]

it will be the usual from witter.he'll try to take him out in 3 or 4 rounds if he doesn't succeed he'll revert to safety and survival mode and eke out a fairly uninspiring ud.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I am not sure especially as both men have showed great form as well as variable form in the past. I think Witter is past his best and has been on the slide for a while but who can forget Harris performance against Carlos Maussa, shocking was is not? If pushed I would probably favour Harris to prevail though hopefully Witter wins so domestic issues can be resolved with Hatton and Ajose Olusegun which is what the British boxing fans want.

[Nemesis]

Ajose who?

[Max Molyneux]

Ajose hasn't won more than the ABU and commonwealth.

I don't see how he's favoured over Witter and some think he'll give Hatton a hard fight.

If he beats a world class Light Welter then maybe he'd be ready for either but not yet.

[sean]

styles make fights as always and i beleive they do again here.

i have watched a lot of harris and bar the maussa fight , he seems to have the abilty and style to beat witter.

witter is at his best when his opponent comes onto him and at his worst v counterpunchers.

harris is a very tall, counterpuncher , with very good fundamentals and technique.

where harris falls down is he likes to fight at his own pace, from a distance , and if you crowd him and bully him and throw lots of leather he can get flustered and look ungainly and out of sorts.

the chess match that this fight should be will suit harris more than witter IMO.

i do not see many punches landing clean in the fight, witter`s unorthodox switch hitting is hard to nail, both fighters know the other carries heavy artillary , and i think both will be cautious.

i see the height and reach and jab of harris being the dominating factor in a lot of very close rounds where the punch landed count will be low and think harris cleaner work will be telling.

witter has the power to end it all, but i think he will be reluctent to committ to the ko shot , because he will find it hard to get inside off harris long reach, without getting countered.

the herky , jerky ingle style can come a cropper v tall stand up boxers with straight punches and that is exactly what harris is.

if harris is well advised and boxes conservativly , punch picking from range and does not take chances for me he will win.

witter, has looked quite average for the last 2 years and while harris had the maussa debacle i still feel he has the style to beat witter.

harris points 116-113 ,.

but i will watch hoping witter knocks his block clean off.

[elle]

Realistically I think this is a must-win fight for Witter.

He is 33 now so time is running out if he is to get any chance (however slim that may be) of a showdown with Hatton.

[GazOC]

Very hard fight to pick. If Harris can stick to his boxing I think he'll win, Witter needs to unsettle him with a few of those unorthodox moves.

Either Harris by decision or Witter by mid-late KO.....a kop out I know. Sorry!

["TKO"]

Ajose who?

Don't start him off again :patsch

[Nemesis]

Don't start him off again :patsch

My sarcasm got the better of me, I was alluding to the point that Olusegun has no claim to a title shot, nor has ne beat anyone in the top 20 to be considered for challenging Witter

[nufc16]

hard to say exactly if witter is on the slide, or just been lacking motivation as his career has failed to take off as he'd of wanted. should have no problem getting motivated for this as he'll know this is his only real shot at getting to the big time, and big fights in the states, and ofc the hatton fight

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Ajose hasn't won more than the ABU and commonwealth.

I don't see how he's favoured over Witter and some think he'll give Hatton a hard fight.

If he beats a world class Light Welter then maybe he'd be ready for either but not yet.

Next thing you will tell me that Rees as WBA champion is world class is he? I can really see Frank ****** dying to get Rees in with Ajose for an easy defence. Who exactly is world class Harris, Witter or Rees?

["TKO"]

In reality, the first two. I take world class to mean capable of hanging with the very best in your weight class. Harris and Witter that applies to. Rees, I am yet to be convinced didn't just get lucky and manage to outwork a very lacklustre defending champ, but if he makes a few defences I'll give him his due.

[achillesthegreat]

I'm rooting for Witter to land big and close the show. I'm hoping Witter lands the counter uppercut. His uppercut rips heads off.

I want Ricky to fight Witter. I'll never forgive him for not doing so. When Witter first wanted the bout, they were both just top Brits domestically and in Europe while shading the top15. Then Ricky became a champ and Witter followed soon after. Witter has been side by side with Ricky but Ricky won't fight him because he doesn't want Witter to get paid or famous off his back. A real shame.

Win or lose, Witter is the PERFECT next fight for Ricky. Ricky don't want to stay at 147 with big guys/guys who can handle the weight well.

He can bring it home to England and we can have a bonanza.

[Ilesey]

In my opinion, Witter has a boring style. I am no fan of his. Now don't get me wrong, it's nice to see another Brit succeed and win a legit belt. However, Witter is never going to win me over and I'll be honest, I hope Harris is victorious. I quite like Harris' style and I think he will have enough to cause Witter problems but not beat him. Witter takes this one via a soporiphic UD.

[mmickyward]

i think harris has the skill and experience to outwork witter who needs to be busier this time for a unanimous points decision. I cant see harris walking on to one of witters bombs

[nrgetic]

I actually see Witter catching Harris. Harris is very hittable

[Max Molyneux]

Next thing you will tell me that Rees as WBA champion is world class is he? I can really see Frank ****** dying to get Rees in with Ajose for an easy defence. Who exactly is world class Harris, Witter or Rees?

Ree has at least beaten a world class fighter, Ajose has beaten commonwealth level fighters.

Ajose may become world level eventually but he hasn't shown he's ready for a Hatton or Witter.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Ree has at least beaten a world class fighter, Ajose has beaten commonwealth level fighters.

Ajose may become world level eventually but he hasn't shown he's ready for a Hatton or Witter.

These are the types of comments people make until a guy gets a world title shot. You earlier referred to the ABU & Commonwealth title as if they mean nothing. This is the path African fighters take to launch world title assaults. Witter has not exactly shown willingness to get in there with Ajose when Ajose once his mandatory for the Commonwealth title and now Ajose is high up the WBC rankings. I mean Witter choose Morua for crying out loud.

As for Rees beating Mbaye I certainly don't consider either of them world class. In fact there are at least 5 British Light Welterweight boxers domestically outside of Hatton, Witter, Ajose who I am confident can defeat Rees.

["TKO"]

These are the types of comments people make until a guy gets a world title shot. You earlier referred to the ABU & Commonwealth title as if they mean nothing. This is the path African fighters take to launch world title assaults. Witter has not exactly shown willingness to get in there with Ajose when Ajose once his mandatory for the Commonwealth title and now Ajose is high up the WBC rankings. I mean Witter choose Morua for crying out loud.

As for Rees beating Mbaye I certainly don't consider either of them world class. In fact there are at least 5 British Light Welterweight boxers domestically outside of Hatton, Witter, Ajose who I am confident can defeat Rees.

Just out of curiosity, are you a spoof/piss take or do you honestly believe all this stuff you're coming out with about Ajose Olusegun?

I don't know about mandatories for the commonwealth title, but Olusegun still means nothing on the world scene. He certainly is not in a position where he can start demanding title shots or portraying himself as some avoided top notch challenger. Maybe Witter did choose Morua. Whether you think Olusegun would have been a better option is up to you (I would rank them pretty similarly at present). But the fact is, the champ calls the shots. All other things being equal, the champ is entitled to defend against who he wants as long as they are a decent enough challenger. If a contender wants to force the champ to face him, or earn the right to call him out, then he has to do something to make himself stand out from the crowd. He has to put some seriously impressive wins together over world class fighters and become talked about on the world stage, rather than being pretty well unknown outside his close circle.

To be fair, I said exactly the same about Witter himself with Hatton. He was talking about deserving a title shot v Hatton whilst recording 14 straight KOs of guys who could just about pull up their shorts. Witter has always been two steps behind Hatton and until recently has not beaten anybody to make him stand out from the crowd. When Witter was an unknow, Hatton was a contender. When Witter was a contender, Hatton was a champ. By the time Witter gets his hands on a belt, Hatton is fighting megabouts with Tszyu, Castillo and Mayweather. It is Witter's failure to bring anything to the table which has meant he has never appealed to Hatton. Now if Witter beats Harris impressively and Hatton returns to 140 post-Mayweather, that may be a whle different matter.

[Max Molyneux]

These are the types of comments people make until a guy gets a world title shot. You earlier referred to the ABU & Commonwealth title as if they mean nothing. This is the path African fighters take to launch world title assaults. Witter has not exactly shown willingness to get in there with Ajose when Ajose once his mandatory for the Commonwealth title and now Ajose is high up the WBC rankings. I mean Witter choose Morua for crying out loud.

As for Rees beating Mbaye I certainly don't consider either of them world class. In fact there are at least 5 British Light Welterweight boxers domestically outside of Hatton, Witter, Ajose who I am confident can defeat Rees.
If Ajose beat a world class fighter I'd be convinced as much as you, but I'm waiting till he steps up to judge wether he'd be ready for Hatton or Witter.

Yes African fighters take those belts to get to world scene but their not very highly regarded as much as the EBU or NABF.

Rees has done more than Ajose thanks to ****** but since Rees Isn't as proven as Hatton or Witter and Is the weakest champ, Ajose might well beat Rees. Rees will be underestimated because of size but he has Enzo Calzaghe behind him and Rees might Improve just like Macca did against Braitewaithe.

Ajose might well become world class eventually just he Isn't yet.

[Max Molyneux]

Just out of curiosity, are you a spoof/piss take or do you honestly believe all this stuff you're coming out with about Ajose Olusegun?

He was serious enough to write to Boxing News.

[scurlaruntings]

styles make fights as always and i beleive they do again here.

i have watched a lot of harris and bar the maussa fight , he seems to have the abilty and style to beat witter.

witter is at his best when his opponent comes onto him and at his worst v counterpunchers.

harris is a very tall, counterpuncher , with very good fundamentals and technique.

where harris falls down is he likes to fight at his own pace, from a distance , and if you crowd him and bully him and throw lots of leather he can get flustered and look ungainly and out of sorts.

the chess match that this fight should be will suit harris more than witter IMO.

i do not see many punches landing clean in the fight, witter`s unorthodox switch hitting is hard to nail, both fighters know the other carries heavy artillary , and i think both will be cautious.

i see the height and reach and jab of harris being the dominating factor in a lot of very close rounds where the punch landed count will be low and think harris cleaner work will be telling.

witter has the power to end it all, but i think he will be reluctent to committ to the ko shot , because he will find it hard to get inside off harris long reach, without getting countered.

the herky , jerky ingle style can come a cropper v tall stand up boxers with straight punches and that is exactly what harris is.

if harris is well advised and boxes conservativly , punch picking from range and does not take chances for me he will win.

witter, has looked quite average for the last 2 years and while harris had the maussa debacle i still feel he has the style to beat witter.

harris points 116-113 ,.

but i will watch hoping witter knocks his block clean off.Very good analysis of the fight. My heart will be in my mouth for this one as i want Witter to win he really deserves it.But by the same testament i believe his best days have come and gone..:blood

[DamonD]

In my opinion, Witter has a boring style. I am no fan of his. Now don't get me wrong, it's nice to see another Brit succeed and win a legit belt. However, Witter is never going to win me over and I'll be honest, I hope Harris is victorious. I quite like Harris' style and I think he will have enough to cause Witter problems but not beat him. Witter takes this one via a soporiphic UD.
I'll just quote this whole thing and same myself typing out almost the same thing...

Fair play to Witter for his efforts in getting another title shot and winning it, but I'm just not 'feeling it' when it comes to Junior Witter.

I would be quite shocked if Harris won, Witter should be able to box rings around him.

[LeedsLad]

I am not sure especially as both men have showed great form as well as variable form in the past. I think Witter is past his best and has been on the slide for a while but who can forget Harris performance against Carlos Maussa, shocking was is not? If pushed I would probably favour Harris to prevail though hopefully Witter wins so domestic issues can be resolved with Hatton and Ajose Olusegun which is what the British boxing fans want.

What British fans want to see? Give me Witter-Hatton over Olusegun anyday. Ajose is way overrated, Colin Lynes would beat IMO.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

If Ajose beat a world class fighter I'd be convinced as much as you, but I'm waiting till he steps up to judge wether he'd be ready for Hatton or Witter.

Yes African fighters take those belts to get to world scene but their not very highly regarded as much as the EBU or NABF.

Rees has done more than Ajose thanks to ****** but since Rees Isn't as proven as Hatton or Witter and Is the weakest champ, Ajose might well beat Rees. Rees will be underestimated because of size but he has Enzo Calzaghe behind him and Rees might Improve just like Macca did against Braitewaithe.

Ajose might well become world class eventually just he Isn't yet.



Rees is trained by Enzo Calzaghe. I apologise he must be a great fighter then. We certainly want no part of an Enzo Calzaghe fighter. After all the last time Sports Network called up Ajose Olusegun as a last minute substitute to face an Enzo Calzaghe trained fighter he came to Wales and humiliated Bradley Pryce inside 4 rounds. Ajose does not underestimate or over estimate fighters he just takle care of business. Quite frankly he has knocked out better fighters than Rees and Mbaye. Nobody is saying Witter is not a good fighter he is but Ajose has know for a very long time that he would defeat him ditto Hatton. You cannnot claim to be the best until you take on all comers.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

What British fans want to see? Give me Witter-Hatton over Olusegun anyday. Ajose is way overrated, Colin Lynes would beat IMO.

Please beg Colin Lynes to take the fight and not to pull out again as he has done in the past. After all if Ajose is overrated Lynes should be confident however we know Lynes actions mean he just does not fancy it. As Jim Watt said why fight Ajose Olusegun as not only do you have an excellent of losing you are likely to get seriously hurt.

[LeedsLad]

Please beg Colin Lynes to take the fight and not to pull out again as he has done in the past. After all if Ajose is overrated Lynes should be confident however we know Lynes actions mean he just does not fancy it. As Jim Watt said why fight Ajose Olusegun as not only do you have an excellent of losing you are likely to get seriously hurt.

Lynes is ducking Ajose now.. Oh yeah, Ajose is "the most avoided fighter in the world":lol: Of course he looked great against Reid, but lets not forget, Reid is a journeyman whom other top 140 domestic fighters managed to stop...

[PowerPuncher]

Olu G. Rotimi whats your relationship with Ajose? I've heard a bit about him but never seen him in action, whos he fighting next? Been good is 1 thing, but if he doesnt stay busy and get wins over top20 in the world fighters he'll never get a title shot. Good luck to him

As to this fight, I cant wait until tomorrow, I go back and forth on whos going to win, a true 50-50 that could go either way

[Max Molyneux]

Rees is trained by Enzo Calzaghe. I apologise he must be a great fighter then. We certainly want no part of an Enzo Calzaghe fighter. After all the last time Sports Network called up Ajose Olusegun as a last minute substitute to face an Enzo Calzaghe trained fighter he came to Wales and humiliated Bradley Pryce inside 4 rounds. Ajose does not underestimate or over estimate fighters he just takle care of business. Quite frankly he has knocked out better fighters than Rees and Mbaye. Nobody is saying Witter is not a good fighter he is but Ajose has know for a very long time that he would defeat him ditto Hatton. You cannnot claim to be the best until you take on all comers.
I meant Enzo might Improve Rees and make him less of a weak champion he appears to be at the moment. He hasn't beaten anyone better than Rees or M'Baye, Ajose's record Is full of journymen and competitive domestic level fighters. Enzo turned Macca from limited to skilled and he might make Rees less of a weaker looking champ.


Bradley Pryce Is a domestic warhorse who might give him a harder fight fully prepared, Ajose gets these good wins when the other guys unprepared.
Exactly Ajose Is only a prospect still, you can't claim to be the best until you beat the best and he's not near world level yet even Ajose gets to world class.

[Tuavale]

Witter and Harris both made weight and look fit.

[ICE-MAN]

You guys are in for a shock!! Just witnessed Junior's Final Work out a few days ago, I was gob smacked at how hard each shot was being smacked in on the pads. Never heard or seen anything like it. Every shot was like a bomb and you could feel and hear the power outside the ring. :bbb

He is looking a million dollars!! His physique is awesome and he's in great shape.

ALL THE BEST JUNIOR

Harris is going to get knocked spark out and i cant wait:hi:

Seriously devastating damage to be done

[Tuavale]

I'm leaning Witter's way, too. I think Harris is a bit of a basket case.:rofl

[pedrosuk]

Witter UD :verysad hope i can stay awake

[ICE-MAN]

Junior needs some one to pressure him and make him work and think. If Harris can do this then it will be a cracking fight.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I meant Enzo might Improve Rees and make him less of a weak champion he appears to be at the moment. He hasn't beaten anyone better than Rees or M'Baye, Ajose's record Is full of journymen and competitive domestic level fighters. Enzo turned Macca from limited to skilled and he might make Rees less of a weaker looking champ.


Bradley Pryce Is a domestic warhorse who might give him a harder fight fully prepared, Ajose gets these good wins when the other guys unprepared.
Exactly Ajose Is only a prospect still, you can't claim to be the best until you beat the best and he's not near world level yet even Ajose gets to world class.

Rubbish Pryce was prepared. They made a mistake thinking they were calling an opponent in Ajose who was unprepared. Ajose trainer was not even able to come to the fight as he was stuck abroad. I have not exactly heard Pryce screaming for a rematch. Ajose is a prospect heading towards the world title all he needs is the opportunity.

Rees. Next you might make case that Rees might be a worthy challenger to Hatton.

[Max Molyneux]

Rees ain't no worthy challenger to Hatton.

All Ajose needs Is a world class fighter to prove he's worthy to fight Witter or Hatton.

[ron u.k.]

i know they are definitely keeping ajose out of the way of punchers.

[stake501]

Man...every light welter thread gets hijacked into an Ajose thread...

No body doubt that hes talented, but he has to beat some other contenders first before he gets a title shot (unless of course he signs up with ****** and then he can magic a shot from nowhere - see Rees).

Look at witter, he had to it the hard way, why shouldnt Ajose do it also, and believe me if he puts them away, he will get my full support for having a crack at a meaningful title.

With regards to tonight, I have the feeling it wont be the borefest that everyone predicts. Witter kinda knows he has top look good and Harris has to prove himself again after Maussa. I was originally going for Junior UD but now I am leaning towards a late KO for him.

["TKO"]

A case of use your Wits?

WBC champ Witter may have to break the mould if he wants to get by Harris. British correspondent Andy “TKO” Houghton reports on an intriguing matchup from the Doncaster Dome.

Think of Guyana born warrior Vivian Harris and the phrase living on your wits seems rather apt. For a fighter who moved from his Guyana birthplace to start a new life in Brooklyn, N.Y. aged just 16, a meeting with a world champion is merely an occupational hazard rather than a genuine tribulation.

Harris’s up-and-down career has certainly had its fair share of those. After marking himself out as a prospect to watch with a string of early stoppage wins, Harris surrendered his 0 with an upset loss to veteran Ray Oliveira. Since then, his trials include being stabbed in a mugging-gone-wrong on the way to the gym, rebounding to shock Diobelys Hurtado for the vacant WBA belt, two trips to partisan Germany to defeat homeboy Oktay Urkal and an upset KO loss to Carlos Maussa. Having to use your wits, indeed.

In the built up to his shot at redemption against WBC champ Junior Witter, Harris has been uncharacteristically vocal. The 28-2-1(18) challenger has stated on numerous occasions that Witter’s awkward style and home advantage do not pose him any difficulties. He has even gone so far as to state that the counterpunching champ fights “like a coward”. A little piece of dry wit, if you like.

Looking at the bout under the right light, you can start to understand Harris’s confidence. At 29, he is five years younger than his opponent. Since the loss to Maussa, he has rebounded well, stopping former lightweight champ Stevie Johnston impressively and outpointing Marteze Logan. In his last bout, the lanky puncher won a close but unanimous decision over Mexican contender Juan Lazcano to earn his right to this shot.

The image of Harris being draped all over the canvas by huge underdog Maussa, however, is difficult to wipe out. And whilst there were the usual excuses for that anomaly (i.e. Harris overtrained, punched himself out going for the KO), it is not the first time the man known as “Vicious” has found himself on the canvas. The suspicion lingers that, if Witter can find the right punch, he could end up there once again. That feeling intensifies when you consider how limited Maussa looked in losing the belt to Ricky Hatton (TKO9) a few months later.

As for the champ, despite an eight-month absence from the ring since his last (and first) successful defence, stories from the gym are that he looks razor sharp in training. Whilst such tales have to be taken in context, the fact is Witter needs an impressive showing. Points wins over Andreas Kotelnik and Colin Lynes did not capture the imagination and, even whilst clearly outpointing Demarcus Corley for the title a year ago, the rather conservative style adopted by “The Hitter” reminded us of why he has never been a particularly big draw. In his last bout, Witter easily slapped around the overmatched and limited Arturo Morua until the bout was stopped in the ninth.

Stylewise, this is an awkward one for Witter. The champion likes to be able to counterpunch, but to dictate the pace of the fight. This tactic could easily prove his undoing against Harris, who boasts significant height and reach advantages and whose classic, one-two style will help to make the most of these. The challenger also boasts a mean right uppercut and if he is allowed to settle into his groove could start to dictate things.

For Witter, a 2-1 favourite at fight time, the need may be to force the pace. Simply put, in the manner of Sugar Ray Leonard against Thomas Hearns over 25 years ago, he may need to abandon his counterpunching principles and go after his foe with intentions. The 14-bout KO streak Witter put together in the aftermath of his only pro loss, to Zab Judah, suggests this is not beyond him. This, however, is a whole different level of opposition. Whilst Harris looked woefully short on gas against Maussa, the fact that he has been 12 rounds five times, and ten on 11 occasions, suggests a long fight will not cause him problems if need be. It may need to be, as Witter is hard to catch flush and, despite a couple of early career knockdowns, seems to take a reasonable enough shot when required to.

This bout has a bit of the “now or never” feel for Witter, who the big fights have eluded for most of his career. An impressive victory and he could finally become a marketable foe for Ricky Hatton, win, lose or draw against Floyd Mayweather. Welshman Gavin Rees has just won the WBA belt, whilst Paulie Malignaggi, Ricardo Torres or any of the outstanding welterweight crowd would also catapult him into the spotlight. For Harris, another defeat may mean he has nowhere to go at world level.

If Witter can get off to a fast start, hurt the challenger early and force him into his shell, he may be able to score himself a very impressive win. The longer the fight goes, though, the more I fancy Harris. Nevertheless, the suspicion here is that Witter will find a way, some way, to leave the ring with his belt intact. At this stage, though, simply to win maybe not quite enough.

[Strike]

I have never even seen Ajose fight and have nothing against him, but jesus I hope he gets KO'd soon, because I am so sick of seeing him brough up by Olu G.Rotmi on every fucking thread.

[Napuis]

Realistically I think this is a must-win fight for Witter.

He is 33 now so time is running out if he is to get any chance (however slim that may be) of a showdown with Hatton.

LOL 'showdown'.

Hatton v Mayweather is a showdown.

Hatton v Witter is a champion taking out a little thorn in his backside who isn't fit to be fighting at the same event, let alone against him.

Hatton KO Phillips, Tszyu, Oliveira, Castillo...taking on Mayweather, De La Hoya...Witter? Don't think so.

YOu need to beat better than Corley and perhaps Harris to get a shot at Britain's greatest in the prime of his career.

[Boro chris]

Anyone know weather this is on the radio tonight?

[Boro chris]

Junior Witter v Vivian Harris
Friday 7 September
2200 BST, Radio 5live Sports Extra and BBC Sport website

Thanks. And who is the delectable young lady acting as your avatar?

[Scrappy]

LOL 'showdown'.

Hatton v Mayweather is a showdown.

Hatton v Witter is a champion taking out a little thorn in his backside who isn't fit to be fighting at the same event, let alone against him.

Hatton KO Phillips, Tszyu, Oliveira, Castillo...taking on Mayweather, De La Hoya...Witter? Don't think so.

YOu need to beat better than Corley and perhaps Harris to get a shot at Britain's greatest in the prime of his career.

Exactly, I can't understand those who believe Witter deserves a shot at Hatton. If Hatton beats Mayweather, sorry, I mean when Hatton beats Mayweather, Witter won't even be on Hatton's radar. Hatton will have bigger fish to fry, maybe De La Hoya, maybe Cotto, but not Witter.

Besides, Witter couldn't handle Hatton's power. :bbb

About tonight's fight, I admit I'm not really a Witter fan, in fact the guy annoys the hell out of me. But he is British so he's got my support, but there won't be any tears if he loses.

[Chief_Second]

anyone on stream link? can't seem to find one

[SevenSamurai]

Just out of curiosity, are you a spoof/piss take or do you honestly believe all this stuff you're coming out with about Ajose Olusegun?

I don't know about mandatories for the commonwealth title, but Olusegun still means nothing on the world scene. He certainly is not in a position where he can start demanding title shots or portraying himself as some avoided top notch challenger. Maybe Witter did choose Morua. Whether you think Olusegun would have been a better option is up to you (I would rank them pretty similarly at present). But the fact is, the champ calls the shots. All other things being equal, the champ is entitled to defend against who he wants as long as they are a decent enough challenger. If a contender wants to force the champ to face him, or earn the right to call him out, then he has to do something to make himself stand out from the crowd. He has to put some seriously impressive wins together over world class fighters and become talked about on the world stage, rather than being pretty well unknown outside his close circle.

To be fair, I said exactly the same about Witter himself with Hatton. He was talking about deserving a title shot v Hatton whilst recording 14 straight KOs of guys who could just about pull up their shorts. Witter has always been two steps behind Hatton and until recently has not beaten anybody to make him stand out from the crowd. When Witter was an unknow, Hatton was a contender. When Witter was a contender, Hatton was a champ. By the time Witter gets his hands on a belt, Hatton is fighting megabouts with Tszyu, Castillo and Mayweather. It is Witter's failure to bring anything to the table which has meant he has never appealed to Hatton. Now if Witter beats Harris impressively and Hatton returns to 140 post-Mayweather, that may be a whle different matter.


Excellent post.:deal

[achillesthegreat]

Knocked The Fuck Out!

[achillesthegreat]

What happened in the Simpson fight, mate?
Good question. I haven't seen it. I knew there was another fight on.

[achillesthegreat]

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[Olu G. Rotimi]

I must say I thought Junior Witter was excellent in his knockout victory over Vivian Harris. I had this as a 50/50 fight going in but Junior gave for me his best performance in years. Prior to this fight and his performances over the last few years he seemed to be on the slide however at age 34 he showed excellent speed, poise, power and precision. He still has some of the technical weaknesses he has always had but not many can take advantage of this. A perormance like this will expose Hatton is he does not have the domestic superfight with Witter. As for Ajose this was excellent as a fight with Witter will be easier to make as the title remains in Britain. Exciting times in the 140 pounds division. I am no fan of Witter but full credit must be given where it is due.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Rees ain't no worthy challenger to Hatton.

All Ajose needs Is a world class fighter to prove he's worthy to fight Witter or Hatton.

Ajose is prepared to fight anyone but are they?

[Olu G. Rotimi]

i know they are definitely keeping ajose out of the way of punchers.

Ajose knocks out punchers and beats up boxers. Ajose does not decline opponents. He works on a simple philosophy which is if you are a Junior Welterweight or Welterweight he will defeat you period.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I have never even seen Ajose fight and have nothing against him, but jesus I hope he gets KO'd soon, because I am so sick of seeing him brough up by Olu G.Rotmi on every fucking thread.

Strike that sounds a bit churlish mate. You should check my guy out before hoping he gets KO'd which is not going to happen. Please watch him and you will adopt him and become a fan. Cheers mate.

[Pat Breen]

You guys are in for a shock!! Just witnessed Junior's Final Work out a few days ago, I was gob smacked at how hard each shot was being smacked in on the pads. Never heard or seen anything like it. Every shot was like a bomb and you could feel and hear the power outside the ring. :bbb

He is looking a million dollars!! His physique is awesome and he's in great shape.

ALL THE BEST JUNIOR

Harris is going to get knocked spark out and i cant wait:hi:

Seriously devastating damage to be done...great post..right on the money..:happy

[Healy]

very impressed with Witter. Im doing a write up of this today... might post it

[ron u.k.]

Ajose knocks out punchers and beats up boxers. Ajose does not decline opponents. He works on a simple philosophy which is if you are a Junior Welterweight or Welterweight he will defeat you period.cheers ajose.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Strike that sounds a bit churlish mate. You should check my guy out before hoping he gets KO'd which is not going to happen. Please watch him and you will adopt him and become a fan. Cheers mate.

Exactly. Now Strike is a poster who I respect. Hes got a bit of an ego, but thats mancunians for you;)

Put it this way Strike, me & my pal Topdog used to argue with Olu, but when you actually sit back & take in what he is saying, Olu is a top, top lad as you mancs would say.

In other words Strike, picking a fight with Olu is like picking a fight with the scots posters. Cos hes one of us now:deal

[Max Molyneux]

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Look at the shit Harris Is talking.

[Dunky McCafferty]

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Look at the shit Harris Is talking.

I finally saw the fight last night, & most of Harris gripes are just sour grapes. But, hes got a point bout Witters corner, they stupidly rushed in before the ref had counted Harris out. That could have proven costly if the ref had noticed it.

Great performance from Witter though, awkward, fast, hard hitting, & proved hes got a great chin yet again, as he took some of Harris best shots no problem.

A complete performance.

[Max Molyneux]

Witter showed why Hatton don't want a pimping.

[UndisputedUK]

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Look at the shit Harris Is talking.

LOLOLOL

Yep, thats straight from the Anus!

1. Witter is not a big 140lb fighters.
2. Pay yer own bills.
3. Witter is a "Hitter".

Harris was KTFO! Is he still concussed or is he just a bad loser?

M'Baye would have given a better performance than he did! :lol:

[sean]

hennesey was disgracefull though.

he never gave harris any money to get some food.

tonight in new york it has been reported that harris has been arrested after he eat a meal at a resteraunt and then had a row when the owner asked him to pay.

[Decebal]

hennesey was disgracefull though.

he never gave harris any money to get some food.

tonight in new york it has been reported that harris has been arrested after he eat a meal at a resteraunt and then had a row when the owner asked him to pay.

:lol:

[hitman_hatton1]

Strike that sounds a bit churlish mate. You should check my guy out before hoping he gets KO'd which is not going to happen. Please watch him and you will adopt him and become a fan. Cheers mate.

ajose has impressed me in the past.

particularly when he delivered against nuumbembe.

he was a bit too cocky in his last fight for my liking though.

he has talent.

can't see maloney delivering the fights he ultimately wants though.

cos it's not like ajose can box for a european title.

he needs to get ranked contenders in the ring to push his rankings up with sanctioning bodies.

[achillesthegreat]

Harris is being such a fucking moron. I read the interview this morning and its drivel.

Witter doesn't have power :patsch

For raw power I'd say Witter may be the heaviest hitter at 140. His problem is actually landing clean and accurately. He is sloppy, bad defence, weak timing and sense of distance.

When he tags you though, you FEEL IT!

[nrgetic]

hennesey was disgracefull though.

he never gave harris any money to get some food.

tonight in new york it has been reported that harris has been arrested after he eat a meal at a resteraunt and then had a row when the owner asked him to pay.

What is the story, who is Hennesey, excuse my ignorance

[nrgetic]

Witter must punch really hard as some of the stuff that Harris is coming out with after the fight indicates some form of brain trauma

[Nemesis]

Witter must punch really hard as some of the stuff that Harris is coming out with after the fight indicates some form of brain trauma
I was thinking he was trying to change career by moving into comedy, he's good at it :D

[Strike]

Exactly. Now Strike is a poster who I respect. Hes got a bit of an ego, but thats mancunians for you;)

Put it this way Strike, me & my pal Topdog used to argue with Olu, but when you actually sit back & take in what he is saying, Olu is a top, top lad as you mancs would say.

In other words Strike, picking a fight with Olu is like picking a fight with the scots posters. Cos hes one of us now:deal

I'm not picking a fight with him, I couldn't give a flying fuck. I am sick of him jumping into every fucking thread about any 140 fighter and rattling on about a guy who is not even on the radar of the top 15 fighters in the weight.

Forget Hatton, I was rooting for Witter big time against Harris and what do I see as soon as the threads are rolling? Fucking "Ajose would.." blah fucking blah.
By all means support your fighter and start threads on him, hype him etc. But dont spam. Dont wank all over every thread with your fantasies about your pin up.

It is so lame. As I said I have not even seen Ajose fight. I might like him a lot, I could easily become a fan, but my gut reaction is I want him starched just so that troll will shut the fuck up and let other 140 fighters be discussed on their own merits.

[Max Molyneux]

Witter Is 2nd only to Calzaghe In the British P4p ratings.

[Scrappy]

Witter Is 2nd only to Calzaghe In the British P4p ratings.

Calzaghe is a fair argument but saying Witter is a better British P4P boxer than Hatton is bold. Naturally, I disagree.

[Drofrah]

Very pleased with the Witter win, maybe he will get a be more respect

[Boro chris]

hennesey was disgracefull though.

he never gave harris any money to get some food.

tonight in new york it has been reported that harris has been arrested after he eat a meal at a resteraunt and then had a row when the owner asked him to pay.


Vivian "Will box for food" Harris.