Foreman vs Liston

[djanders]

12 rounds, both in their primes, who wins?

[Rumsfeld]

I'll take Foreman by KO.

[TheIronMan]

Ill go with Foreman by KO aswell.

[Mr Butt]

as above

[PbP Bacon]

Great matchup.

For me, it is too close. So, I chickened out and called it a draw :D

Foreman in flim seems better in offense, with faster hands and feet. But Liston seems to have superior technical skills, with better defense and superior stamina.

My impression is that, at the beginning, Foreman has the upper hand, however, the longer the fight lasts, the more Sonny's options improve.

But again, it is a very close call

[Hydraulix]

I heard that these two were once sparring partners. I'd love to see that footage.

I'd favor Foreman in this one, although Big George has said that no one ever hit him as hard as Sonny.

[clark]

Foreman is always saying different people hit the hardest.
Foreman wins this by stoppage. Liston is not stopping Foreman.

[SuzieQ49]

Liston by Mid Round Kayo, alot more one sided than people are led to believe. Liston was much better all around than foreman

[ChrisPontius]

Liston by Mid Round Kayo, alot more one sided than people are led to believe. Liston was much better all around than foreman

Agreed, Foreman was wide open for straight shots. Any technical boxer with a good chin who is not intimidated will give him trouble, although his tremendous strength and power can bail him out against many opponents. But i think Liston would keep going and by the 5th, a tired Foreman will by on the receiving and of more and more right hands until he's stopped. Given Foreman's power, i would never count him out, though.

[mr. magoo]

Neither man was terribly well accustomed to fighters who stood up to them, and didn't like it when one man eventually did, ( same guy basically. ) Anyway, its a pick 'em fight. I don't know for sure who wins, but I can't see this lasting longer than maybe 6 or 7 rounds, and even that's being ambitious.

[mightyd40]

i rate liston as the better h2h fighter and i think he has more going for him than foreman but as much as i like liston, i think style wise foreman takes this one via ko.

[SteveO]

I heard that these two were once sparring partners. I'd love to see that footage.

I'd favor Foreman in this one, although Big George has said that no one ever hit him as hard as Sonny.

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[My2Sense]

Foreman is always saying different people hit the hardest.


:lol: Yeah, I remember he once said he was scared to death of Ken Norton, and he was thankful he just "got lucky" to pull out that one. :lol:

[teeto]

:lol: Yeah, I remember he once said he was scared to death of Ken Norton, and he was thankful he just "got lucky" to pull out that one. :lol:
I always got the idea he was just saying that about Norton to be nice more than anything, well that's what i get from watching the interviews personally, it's like it's a cross between that and making his win come across as a really good one, which it was anyway (calling him a great human specimen and all that).

Because let's have it right, if Foreman wanted to he could just say the fight was a doddle and Norton shouldn't have been in the same ring as him.

[Holmes' Jab]

Liston TKO10.

[Holmes' Jab]

Liston is not stopping Foreman.


Foreman is taylor made for Liston (providing Sonny sticks to his boxing), the jab will cause Foreman no end of trouble. Foreman's inferior defence will be his downfall, Ali managed to hurt Foreman on various occasions. Liston is perhaps the hardest, best all round puncher in the divisions history, certainly one of them.

[JohnThomas1]

Liston by stoppage all the way.

[McGrain]

Liston, I think on points.

[fists of fury]

It'd be vicious, I think.

The fight to me hinges on who can impose himself physically on the other. If Liston gives ground to George too easily, I think Foreman builds up momentum and ends up stopping Liston.

If Sonny plants his tent in centre ring and doesn't get pushed back too much, I'd favour his superior technique to earn him a points decision.

[Holmes' Jab]

Foreman has a 'live' shout for sure (you can't not be with the power he has), but Sonny has a great chin, better technique and of course THAT jab. So long as he doesn't slug it out on the front foot the fight is his all the way, he will be choosing when to let his punches go. I think Liston's superior economy and more accurate shots will wear Foreman down, he will tire late on and Liston will up the ante and stop him.

[Flea Man]

i rate liston as high as anyone, but there's only one i would pick as a certainty to beat him at his best without 2nd thought and that's ali. even kid dynamite i only give 50-50, holmes also. liston would tame george for the first three rounds but george would have a better 4th. he then smashes liston to bits. i have to say i think foreman is in danger of being underrated in a h2h sense, he had the power to crack even iron jaws. liston foy money the third baddest hw, behind george. no 1? prime tyson

[Holmes' Jab]

Very surprised at this poll.

[Holmes' Jab]

How does he 'smash Liston to bits'? This thread has a danger of turning into general forum type debate.

[Flea Man]

How does he 'smash Liston to bits'? This thread has a danier of turning into general forum type debate.

look i can as easily envision a scenario wher liston outboxes foreman and stops him (i feel that george was better equipped to take punishment when he came back middle aged) but my opinion is that foreman gets to liston by using own jab and strong armed pushes to force liston back long enough to wing in his big hooks. logic would suggest that when big george lands with some heavy leather he's going to do some serious damage. hence 'smash him to bits'. i probably would've used the same turn of phrase if i'd been descring liston stopping george, no need to lump me in with the trolls :good

[Holmes' Jab]

Sometimes I think that people envisage Foreman as being clearly physically bigger and stronger than Sonny. That's incorrect. He's taller, but that's about it, Liston has the bigger reach and the tale of the tape elsewhere is fairly even.