View Full Version : whats so magical about 'Three'?
sprite
09-05-2007, 08:36 AM
it is suggested by almost all of the experts to eat every three hours...
whether it is to gain weight or lose weight one should eat every three hours. to gain weight one would eat reasonably large in those meals and to lose weight one would eat something small like a banana or maybe a slim fast milkshake to lose weight. doesn't matter what ones goals are just as long as the person eats every three hours.
i have one question: what is so magical about the number three?
Relentless
09-05-2007, 09:07 AM
it doesn't have to be 3 hours, it can be 2 hours or 4 hours,
its to keep the metabolism running,
if you dont eat anything for a long period of time your body goes into starvation mode and anything you eat after that will be stored as fat basically.
gregsid
09-05-2007, 09:59 AM
it doesn't have to be 3 hours, it can be 2 hours or 4 hours,
its to keep the metabolism running,
if you dont eat anything for a long period of time your body goes into starvation mode and anything you eat after that will be stored as fat basically.
Yes, this is true. In fact it's even better for an athlete to eat around 5-6 meals a day. Obviously a bit smaller in portions than the traditional three.
Jazzo
09-05-2007, 10:29 AM
Nothing.
younghypnotiq
09-05-2007, 04:06 PM
its a myth. 7 meals is just as good as 1 meal. this myth has been busted. lol :D
Krippy
09-06-2007, 02:26 AM
its a myth. 7 meals is just as good as 1 meal. this myth has been busted. lol :D
Wrong. :good
Jazzo
09-06-2007, 06:07 AM
its a myth. 7 meals is just as good as 1 meal. this myth has been busted. lol :D
Younghypnotiq, in terms of energy it is the same, but the body needs consistent nutrition so that it does not think that it is in a state of starvation. Otherwise it will cling to fat (our subconscious minds can be primitive retards at times) because it thinks that you will starve to death!
The 3-hour thing is not certainly not exact science however. So you are correct in that there is nothing magical about it.
You sound like you take your training and diet seriously though, and will have a good idea of what your own body needs to get it where you want it to be.
sprite
09-06-2007, 07:15 AM
i feel as if im able to control my hunger better if i eat every three hours. doesn't matter if i pig out or eat small, the result is always the same: i am able to control my hunger
maybe thats whats so magical about the number
Sizzle
09-06-2007, 08:25 AM
Your liver and kidneys perform a function called gluconeogenesis.
GNG (or gluconeogenesis) serves to maintain blood sugar levels. In other words, it is the bodies mechanism for making its own carbohydrates. To do this, it breaks down alanine (an amino acid, component of protein), lactate and glycerol (component of the fat stored in your system).
It generally begins to kick in after about two and a half to three hours - This is why you should refuel your body after this time period. Your body will break down muscle tissue to maintain the blood sugar levels in your body. If you don't eat for seven hours, as suggested, there will be a "ketogenic" effect in your body, as GNG will become the dominant source of carbohydrate production, and in summation of its effects, you'll be weak, mentally lethargic, and have bad breath.
Note: GNG is not one of the bodies most efficient mechanisms - Now that you know it exists it doesn't mean you can stop eating carbohydrates. Some people who try out the Atkins diet still get nauseous and even faint. Don't rely on it, give your bodies all the nutrients it requires.
sprite
09-06-2007, 08:41 AM
bad breath as a result of not eating for 7 hours? hmmmm...
wierd
Sizzle
09-06-2007, 10:32 AM
bad breath as a result of not eating for 7 hours? hmmmm...
wierd
Actually the bad breath comes later, when there is a high concentration of ketone bodies in the bloodstream, I used the 7 hour figure because a poster claimed eating every 7 hours was healthy.
EDITED: I just noticed my error. Someone claimed one meal a day (as opposed to 7) was healthy. It's not ;)
younghypnotiq
09-06-2007, 03:47 PM
Wrong. :good
nope ur an idiot. it is an old body building myth. the main reason why it helps you get bigger is because its easier toea t 7000 cals in 7 meals then in 3
Relentless
09-06-2007, 04:40 PM
nope ur an idiot. it is an old body building myth. the main reason why it helps you get bigger is because its easier toea t 7000 cals in 7 meals then in 3
no you are an idiot, read my first post.
younghypnotiq
09-06-2007, 04:52 PM
i no alot of people think that but it is not true. many studies have proved it false
younghypnotiq
09-06-2007, 05:06 PM
from another site.
a) research suggests that the amount of meals you eat does not matter as much as the total calories at the end of the day. I can spread that out over 5-6 small meals or, I can eat 3 large square meals. Either way, research showed that there was no difference between the two.
b) Taking that into consideration, if I am eating 4000 calories a day, obvisouly, 6 small meals a day is going to be much easier than eating 3 huge meals a day. So, that is one reason why you might consider the smaller, more frequent feedings.
c) A female on the other hand, who might be eating very low calories, may not want to eat 6 meals a day. For example, 6 meals of 200 calories would be extremely small meals and might not be satisfying at all. So, they may opt to eat 3 larger meals to feel like they are actually eating something.
d) the idea that your body goes into starvation mode if you don't eat after 3 hours is pretty ridiculous, so we can throw that one out. Also, given that the research suggests 24-hour metabolism is more important than the number of meals, it doesn't make a difference.
e) Probably the most important part of the 5-6 small meals and the reason why I suggest it as being the best option is because it keeps people from being hungry and snacking. If I eat 3 meals a day, no matter how large, the length of time between those meals is significant enough that I will get hungry, snack and then increase my daily total caloric intake, ultimately throwing off my diet. Also, those that have a large length of time between meals tend to get hungry and eat crap food and make crap choices because they are so hungry. It is mentally more satisfying to eat more frequent meals.
Relentless
09-06-2007, 06:01 PM
from another site.
a) research suggests that the amount of meals you eat does not matter as much as the total calories at the end of the day. I can spread that out over 5-6 small meals or, I can eat 3 large square meals. Either way, research showed that there was no difference between the two.
b) Taking that into consideration, if I am eating 4000 calories a day, obvisouly, 6 small meals a day is going to be much easier than eating 3 huge meals a day. So, that is one reason why you might consider the smaller, more frequent feedings.
c) A female on the other hand, who might be eating very low calories, may not want to eat 6 meals a day. For example, 6 meals of 200 calories would be extremely small meals and might not be satisfying at all. So, they may opt to eat 3 larger meals to feel like they are actually eating something.
d) the idea that your body goes into starvation mode if you don't eat after 3 hours is pretty ridiculous, so we can throw that one out. Also, given that the research suggests 24-hour metabolism is more important than the number of meals, it doesn't make a difference.
e) Probably the most important part of the 5-6 small meals and the reason why I suggest it as being the best option is because it keeps people from being hungry and snacking. If I eat 3 meals a day, no matter how large, the length of time between those meals is significant enough that I will get hungry, snack and then increase my daily total caloric intake, ultimately throwing off my diet. Also, those that have a large length of time between meals tend to get hungry and eat crap food and make crap choices because they are so hungry. It is mentally more satisfying to eat more frequent meals.
research suggests this, research suggests that, research showed that,
where is this so called research??? this is just some guys opinion claiming he got it from research.
younghypnotiq
09-06-2007, 06:07 PM
research has proved it just google it.
Relentless
09-06-2007, 07:15 PM
what god damn research!!!???
younghypnotiq
09-06-2007, 08:18 PM
lol. listen. i personally ddo the 7 meals a day but it doesnt do anything other then help you get more cals down
Relentless
09-07-2007, 05:57 AM
you still haven't answered my question, where is this research i keep hearing about?
Sizzle
09-07-2007, 06:17 AM
you still haven't answered my question, where is this research i keep hearing about?
I'm a 4th year nutrition student. I'm familair with a lot of the research, and younghypnotiq is completely, totally and utterly wrong.
younghypnotiq
09-07-2007, 03:43 PM
wel all the weight trainers and the personale trainerws i no say ur completly and utterly wrong.
Relentless
09-07-2007, 03:53 PM
who are these personal weight trainers and weight trainers you know??
louie simmons??
mel siff?
younghypnotiq
09-07-2007, 04:14 PM
no one famous
MagnificentMatt
09-07-2007, 04:50 PM
who are these personal weight trainers and weight trainers you know??
louie simmons??
mel siff?
Billy Blanks?
viru§™
09-07-2007, 05:08 PM
wel all the weight trainers and the personale trainerws i no say ur completly and utterly wrong.
95% of "weight trainers" know fuck all about weight training and nutrition. younghypnotiq, it looks like you should start reading before you start insulting people on topics you have no clue about.
Sizzle
09-07-2007, 10:00 PM
wel all the weight trainers and the personale trainerws i no say ur completly and utterly wrong.
I can't be bothered to go into detail as to why your statements are bogus and untrue, but the main problem with this "reasoning" is that you're looking at foods from purely a caloric point of view.
Consider metabolic stability, micronutrient absorption (if you have too many water soluble vitamins in one meal your body will flush them out), macronutrient absorption (your body can only absorb a certain amount of protein in one sitting) and most importantly, hormone control. Learn a thing or two about insulin, glycagon, and eicosanoids, the things in our bloodstream that determine our eating desires.
And as mentioned, personal trainers are fucking idiots when it comes to nutrition :good I've heard some advice almost as bad as yours.
younghypnotiq
09-07-2007, 10:09 PM
ahh so as soon as 3 hours is up my body will start eating my muscle? ur an idiot. and virus i read alot on this shit. its a myth. plain and simple. if it work for you then great. i use it as wel.
You seem to really know your stuff Sizzle. :good
Relentless
09-08-2007, 06:09 AM
ahh so as soon as 3 hours is up my body will start eating my muscle? ur an idiot. and virus i read alot on this shit. its a myth. plain and simple. if it work for you then great. i use it as wel.
why would you follow something you dont believe?
go back to school freckle face:hi:
viru§™
09-08-2007, 08:56 AM
ahh so as soon as 3 hours is up my body will start eating my muscle? ur an idiot. and virus i read alot on this shit. its a myth. plain and simple. if it work for you then great. i use it as wel.
younghypnotiq, go over to T-nation.com and argue this point with the professionals over there. I'm sure they'd love to hear your theories on eating, before they laugh at you and rip your thoughts to pieces.
younghypnotiq
09-08-2007, 05:52 PM
that where i got this theory from. T-nation people are the ones who told me it. :good
viru§™
09-08-2007, 06:11 PM
that where i got this theory from. T-nation people are the ones who told me it. :good
Give me a link to the thread or article.
younghypnotiq
09-08-2007, 06:19 PM
alright i have to find it but i wil post it up. :good
viru§™
09-08-2007, 09:54 PM
alright i have to find it but i wil post it up. :good
Well...?
younghypnotiq
09-08-2007, 10:10 PM
my dude im watching UFC 75 im not serching for some shit i dont care about right now
viru§™
09-08-2007, 10:38 PM
my dude im watching UFC 75 im not serching for some shit i dont care about right now
Already seen it. Was kinda crap really apart from Bisping match.
younghypnotiq
09-08-2007, 10:40 PM
damn. u from england? im happy rampage won. :)
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