Whos better ? Jermain Taylor or Joe Clazaghe

[jaycuban]

I know alot of people hate Jermaine Tylor here and there are alot of Calzaghe fans, but come on dont judge them on your personality but yet on their skills and their previous fights.

[El Bombasto]

jc no contest

[Imperial1]

This isn't even close Joe Calzaghe by a Wide Margin

[McGrain]

It's a no brainer; Calzaghe is the more skilled of the two, Taylor has taken on the better competition.

In my world Taylor has proven that he is a better fighter than Calzaghe has proven himslef to be, but if they had fought at any time in the past five years I'd have put a lot of money on Calzaghe to win, no question.

[jaycuban]

jc no contest

who has he beaten ?

[yesihavearm]

Eubank, Reid, Lacy not to mention 7 World Champions

And H2H JC would beat Taylor.

Gotta be calzaghe then

[jaycuban]

Oh brother. Based on resume it's clearly Taylor.


we think alike

[Zakman]

Calzaghe, and it's not even close. Taylor is a fraud, the product of the HBO hype machine. You don't see Calzaghe getting gift decision after gift decision.

[Fedor Em]

Oh brother. Based on resume it's clearly Taylor.

I would agree that Taylor beat better fighters, but Joe looks better on film and would probally win head 2 head.

[China_hand_Joe]

Oh brother. Based on resume it's clearly Taylor.

Struggling to an (arguably undeserved) draw against Wright really suggests he could handle Calzaghe.

[kg0208]

Calzaghe, and it's not even close. Taylor is a fraud, the product of the HBO hype machine. You don't see Calzaghe getting gift decision after gift decision.

I haven't seen Taylor get gift decision after gift decision either. So I don't know what you're talking about.

And I voted for Calzaghe. You're exaggerating.

[Imperial1]

Calzaghe, and it's not even close. Taylor is a fraud, the product of the HBO hype machine. You don't see Calzaghe getting gift decision after gift decision.

No but he does get some premature stoppages though ..

[China_hand_Joe]

Yeah but Tyson looked better on film and probably would have beaten Douglas....:D

Honestly though, we can say that about any fighters that haven't faced each other but the fact is that Taylor has sought out, fought and beaten the much better opposition.

He became anorexic to avoid Calzaghe.

Taylor has sought out past prime and WW fighters. Decent opponents, but not opponents on Calzaghe's level.

[jonesjrp4p1]

im gonna go with jermain just bc hes beat the better opponents.....i think calzaghe could but he hasnt proved it

[MSTR]

It's a no brainer; Calzaghe is the more skilled of the two, Taylor has taken on the better competition.

In my world Taylor has proven that he is a better fighter than Calzaghe has proven himslef to be, but if they had fought at any time in the past five years I'd have put a lot of money on Calzaghe to win, no question.
Good post. My thoughts exactly.

[Lostmykeys]

Based on resume as it has been said it has to be Jermain Taylor.

Head to head is a 50/50 fight in which I would favour Taylor because he is the younger fighter.

[China_hand_Joe]

Hi Dipshit :hi:

A) I didn't say anything about who would beat who. I clearly stated that based on RESUME (which in this instance is the qualification that counts) it's clearly Taylor. And it is.

B) You really should consider removing those nuts from your mouth before you start to resemble a squirrel.

C) Love you. :good

So being a rational human being, you agree Calzaghe is the "better" of the two mate?

[MSTR]

He became anorexic to avoid Calzaghe.

Taylor has sought out past prime and WW fighters. Decent opponents, but not opponents on Calzaghe's level.
Taylor has sort out far better fighters then Calzaghe though. Fighting guys like Rick Thornberry is a dead set embarrassment in your 4th title defense.

[China_hand_Joe]

Ha! Based on what?? Not resume.

Video footage, common sense, the margin of the victories on his resume.

[box03]

who would win probably Calazaghe, but Taylor has the better resume for sure and is alot younger. In 2 more years I think Taylor would beat him though.

[China_hand_Joe]

I say Taylor based on this...
If Calzaghe took the same opponents Taylor did, he wouldn't be undefeated :good

You think Calzaghe would lose to Ouma?

[boxfan99]

Is this a serious question?:huh

[box03]

He would've beaten both Hopkins and Wright for sure. His style is bad for Hopkins. A prime Hopkins beats him, but not the old man Hopkins of today. And gimme a break, no way Winky beats him. you agree Winky/Calazaghe ends in a close decision, Winky never gets blown out and I believe hes the better boxer out of the two of them.

[dave82]

I have to go with JC on this one

[China_hand_Joe]

The only thing about your post that makes an iota of sense. Even still it doesn't apply. Going by video footage one would have guessed that Zab Judah would have wiped the floor with Kostya Tszyu - guess what - it never happened.

Not, it was obvious all along a fighter with a right hand like Tszyu's would beat an erratic southpaw.

It is very easy when you consider how a tiny southpaw in Ouma was able to pressure Taylor. Now imagine Ouma was 6 foot taller, stronger, faster, more skilled and you see Taylor losing.

[China_hand_Joe]

a boxing noob or just clueless. :good

How will Taylor beat Calzaghe?

With his devastating power?

His tremendous workrate?

His brilliance vs southpaws?

[China_hand_Joe]

Wright doesn't just cover up, he counters. Mosley's got more foot speed and overall speed than Calzaghe and Mosley was still easy work. Also Mosley flurries the same way JC does and you seen what happened.

And Soliman?

[dave82]

How will Taylor beat Calzaghe? He can't and he won't

With his devastating power? Nope

His tremendous workrate? Nope

His brilliance vs southpaws? Nope

Joe beats Jermain Taylor UD

[brooklyn1550]

Jc

[unclepaulie]

I hate how alot of Calzaghe fans act like no one can beat him. Im reading alot of "Jermain Taylor has no chance" or "JC hands down." Why people are so obsessed with Calzaghe i have no idea. To say that Calzaghe will win is one thing. To say he would udderly dominate a champion on JTs level is just foolish. I hate it when the idol worship of a boxer based on where he is from or whatever reason clouds peoples reasoning.

[Amsterdam]

All this talk about resume is hilarious, especially when not taking into account HOW fights are won.

Taylor got two controversials over an old Hopkins.

Got a controversial draw against Wright.

This is his entire resume unless you really want to include his struggles with Ouma and Spinks, which were both embarassing for a MW champion. Or the shutout of a shot Joppy, which was fair.

So you all are telling me that 3 competitive fights with top class fighters and 2 struggle victories over 2 light hitting top fighters from a division down is automatically superior to -

Wipeout's of a Eubank(past prime), Lacy, Starie, Woodhall, Mitchell, Sheika, Brewer, Veit & a competitive but clear win over Reid?

Christ.

[China_hand_Joe]

I hate how alot of Calzaghe fans act like no one can beat him.

Really...So then, who stands a chance in hell of beating him?

[Amsterdam]

I hate how alot of Calzaghe fans act like no one can beat him. Im reading alot of "Jermain Taylor has no chance" or "JC hands down." Why people are so obsessed with Calzaghe i have no idea. To say that Calzaghe will win is one thing. To say he would udderly dominate a champion on JTs level is just foolish. I hate it when the idol worship of a boxer based on where he is from or whatever reason clouds peoples reasoning.

Taylor doesn't have a chance against Calzaghe, this is why the fight would have never happened. Did you see how Wright used pressure and handspeed to pin Taylor against the ropes?

Take that with 3x better movement and 2x the handspeed and 3x the power. It'd be a quick wipe out and Taylor would be a fish out of water.

[Executioner]

All this talk about resume is hilarious, especially when not taking into account HOW fights are won.

Taylor got two controversials over an old Hopkins.

Got a controversial draw against Wright.

This is his entire resume unless you really want to include his struggles with Ouma and Spinks, which were both embarassing for a MW champion. Or the shutout of a shot Joppy, which was fair.

So you all are telling me that 3 competitive fights with top class fighters and 2 struggle victories over 2 light hitting top fighters from a division down is automatically superior to -

Wipeout's of a Eubank(past prime), Lacy, Starie, Woodhall, Mitchell, Sheika, Brewer, Veit & a competitive but clear win over Reid?

Christ.

Amsterdam, you're a respectable poster but I didn't see how Taylor struggled with Ouma. I thought he beat him from pillar to post and lost maybe 2 rounds tops.

[box03]

All this talk about resume is hilarious, especially when not taking into account HOW fights are won.

Taylor got two controversials over an old Hopkins.

Got a controversial draw against Wright.

This is his entire resume unless you really want to include his struggles with Ouma and Spinks, which were both embarassing for a MW champion. Or the shutout of a shot Joppy, which was fair.

So you all are telling me that 3 competitive fights with top class fighters is automatically superior to -

Wipeout's of a Eubank(past prime), Lacy, Starie, Woodhall, Mitchell, Sheika, Brewer, Veit & a competitive but clear win over Reid?

Christ. not a great resume in my opinion aside from Lacy and Eubank, Taylor would have blow outs against the rest. Anybody with a little knowledge of boxing can see that, if Calazaghe beats Kessler I will give him alot of credit just like I did when he beat Lacy who was overrated to begin with. Calazaghe might be a better fighter than Taylor, but his resume aint nothing to brag about he seemed a little too protected until just a couple years ago.

[Amsterdam]

Amsterdam, you're a respectable poster but I didn't see how Taylor struggled with Ouma. I thought he beat him from pillar to post and lost maybe 2 rounds tops.

He did not struggle in scoring rounds, he struggled in the sense that Ouma's pressure was able to get to him as the fight went on and he was running out of energy, had Ouma any power what so ever, Taylor would have been in a nightmare situation.

He looked terrible.

All this talk of 'Taylor is more proven' just shows boxing fans ignorance. He is more proven, he's proven that he's much more flawed than Calzaghe against a variety of styles. The fact that someone posted that Wright would defeat Calzaghe and that Spinks would trouble him is very telling.

[China_hand_Joe]

not a great resume in my opinion aside from Lacy and Eubank, Taylor would have blow outs against the rest. Anybody with a little knowledge of boxing can see that, if Calazaghe beats Kessler I will give him alot of credit just like I did when he beat Lacy who was overrated to begin with. Calazaghe might be a better fighter than Taylor, but his resume aint nothing to brag about he seemed a little too protected until just a couple years ago.

Is an old Hopkins and an old blown-up Wright really the making of a great resume?

His resume is probably more incomplete than Calzaghe's. Prime Robin Reid is a match for anyone on Taylor's.

[Executioner]

He did not struggle in scoring rounds, he struggled in the sense that Ouma's pressure was able to get to him as the fight went on and he was running out of energy, had Ouma any power what so ever, Taylor would have been in a nightmare situation.

He looked terrible.

All this talk of 'Taylor is more proven' just shows boxing fans ignorance. He is more proven, he's proven that he's much more flawed than Calzaghe against a variety of styles. The fact that someone posted that Wright would defeat Calzaghe and that Spinks would trouble him is very telling.

All right, that's cleared up. And yes, Calzaghe would blast Taylor, with relative ease I might add. A massacre. If Wright, a smaller, less powerful, slower southpaw than Calzaghe could back Taylor up into corners and land 6 clean shots in a row than Calzaghe, who is faster, more skilled, stronger and punches harder would ruin Taylor.

[Amsterdam]

not a great resume in my opinion aside from Lacy and Eubank, Taylor would have blow outs against the rest. Anybody with a little knowledge of boxing can see that, if Calazaghe beats Kessler I will give him alot of credit just like I did when he beat Lacy who was overrated to begin with. Calazaghe might be a better fighter than Taylor, but his resume aint nothing to brag about he seemed a little too protected until just a couple years ago.

Woodhall, Mitchell, Veit, Starie, Brewer and Reid were solid fighters. I could easily see Reid KOing Taylor, likewise with Byron Mitchell, who KOed an awesome fighter in Frankie Liles and beat a prime Manny Siaca twice.

Seeing as how Taylor has shown immense issue's with smaller fighter, how do you suppose he 'wipe's out' these bigger guys, who can impose size and punch on a very flawed guy who no longer has a size advantage?

I could easily see a big man like Brewer imposing his size and drawing Taylor into a brawl and KOing him. It's not like Taylor has shown a great chin, he's been buzzed by a featherfist in Winky.

[compukiller]

I'm not entirely sold on JC, but he would fucking kill Taylor.

[Amsterdam]

All right, that's cleared up. And yes, Calzaghe would blast Taylor, with relative ease I might add. A massacre. If Wright, a smaller, less powerful, slower southpaw than Calzaghe could back Taylor up into corners and land 6 clean shots in a row than Calzaghe, who is faster, more skilled, stronger and punches harder would ruin Taylor.

This is all I seek, realism and you hit the nail on the head. I don't pretend that Calzaghe has an ATG resume, but his resume is also far from trash and he has proven himself against a variety of styles and has shown the ability to step up when the time comes, I feel he will come to the occassion against Kessler, who is a P4P level fighter in ability and will be a P4P top class after the Calzaghe bout win or lose.

Taylor is not even operating on the level of Kessler or Calzaghe, yet some fools seem to think that Kessler and Calzaghe both are lesser, just because they aren't familiar with either's resume and the relevance of it. Likewise on people judging solely on names and not how fights went.

I can tell you right now that Mikkel Kessler would have pasted Ouma in a round or two and I tell you in full confidence. Kessler and Taylor are about the same size....

[unclepaulie]

Taylor doesn't have a chance against Calzaghe, this is why the fight would have never happened. Did you see how Wright used pressure and handspeed to pin Taylor against the ropes?

Take that with 3x better movement and 2x the handspeed and 3x the power. It'd be a quick wipe out and Taylor would be a fish out of water.

It is just plain stupid to compare Calzaghe to Wright. They are totally different fighters with totally different m not saying that it is unlikely that Calzaghe would win, im just saying that its foolish to say Jermain Taylor has no chance. When people make statements like that they sound less credible because it shows an obvious preferance towards a fighter.

[Amsterdam]

It is just plain stupid to compare Calzaghe to Wright. They are totally different fighters with totally different m not saying that it is unlikely that Calzaghe would win, im just saying that its foolish to say Jermain Taylor has no chance. When people make statements like that they sound less credible because it shows an obvious preferance towards a fighter.

Well how about this mate -

I don't like Kelly Pavlik at all, but Taylor has little chance for victory in my opinion.

Anybody who can pressure and carries competent skill with a bigger mans punch is going to do him in. Calzaghe pressures and swarms like a mad man and would be the hardest puncher that Taylor would have ever faced, not to mention the quickest(Spinks' speed troubled him for christ sakes).

It's not preferance, it's just good forecasting...

[box03]

Woodhall, Mitchell, Veit, Starie, Brewer and Reid were solid fighters. I could easily see Reid KOing Taylor, likewise with Byron Mitchell, who KOed an awesome fighter in Frankie Liles and beat a prime Manny Siaca twice.

Seeing as how Taylor has shown immense issue's with smaller fighter, how do you suppose he 'wipe's out' these bigger guys, who can impose size and punch on a very flawed guy who no longer has a size advantage?

I could easily see a big man like Brewer imposing his size and drawing Taylor into a brawl and KOing him. It's not like Taylor has shown a great chin, he's been buzzed by a featherfist in Winky. I wouldnt say Taylor got buzzed by Winky but ok, I see your point but Taylor has beat an all-time legend twice in Hopkins which is no easy no feat. Wether you like it or not Taylor is trying to fight the best in his division time after time, I cant say the same about Calazaghe the man has not fought the best throughout his career as his resume suggests. Dont get me wrong I think Calazaghes a great fighter, just a little too well protected for someone with his talents.

[Amsterdam]

I wouldnt say Taylor got buzzed by Winky but ok, I see your point but Taylor has beat an all-time legend twice in Hopkins which is no easy no feat. Wether you like it or not Taylor is trying to fight the best in his division time after time, I cant say the same about Calazaghe the man has not fought the best throughout his career as his resume suggests. Dont get me wrong I think Calazaghes a great fighter, just a little too well protected for someone with his talents.

Maybe a bit avoided?

[unclepaulie]

Well how about this mate -

I don't like Kelly Pavlik at all, but Taylor has little chance for victory in my opinion.

Anybody who can pressure and carries competent skill with a bigger mans punch is going to do him in. Calzaghe pressures and swarms like a mad man and would be the hardest puncher that Taylor would have ever faced, not to mention the quickest(Spinks' speed troubled him for christ sakes).

It's not preferance, it's just good forecasting...


Well at least we agree on one thing, Pavlik is going to beat Taylor. I just dont believe that JC could pressure and swarm like a madman against JT. I have seen Calzaghe fight and it seems he is only able to do this against inferior competition.

[box03]

Maybe a bit avoided? You might be partially right, I believe Hopkins is a man whos all about money and at the time was looking for a big money fight with Jones. I doubt Hopkins would duck Calazaghe cause hes a afraid of him, not sure if that was who you meant when you said avoided.

[Amsterdam]

Well at least we agree on one thing, Pavlik is going to beat Taylor. I just dont believe that JC could pressure and swarm like a madman against JT. I have seen Calzaghe fight and it seems he is only able to do this against inferior competition.

This is simply not true and Taylor has NOTHING to keep Calzaghe honest or at bay. Kessler is not going to beat Calzaghe and Kessler is 3x the fighter that Jermain Taylor is, with the boxer-puncher style.

If you honestly cannot see Calzaghe wiping the floor with Taylor, but see Pavlik doing it, then you are not giving Calzaghe any regard at all.

[Amsterdam]

You might be partially right, I believe Hopkins is a man whos all about money and at the time was looking for a big money fight with Jones. I doubt Hopkins would duck Calazaghe cause hes a afraid of him, not sure if that was who you meant when you said avoided.

This is what I meant -

Calzaghe pre-Lacy was only popular in the UK and even then, was not a celebrated fighter in the media. He only had a basic pushing and he brought no money as a supremely dangerous fight to the 'big names', there was positively no way he could have gotten a Darious M, a Hopkins or any of those other name legacy fights before the Lacy showcase, which jumped his regard up a notch.

He was very much overlooked and avoided, but my point was that he still fought very good competition for the SMW division 'of that time' and I mean that by what he could get because Ottke and Beyer ducked him.

When you have the other European names in Ottke and Beyer ducking him and then the American names not going to take you because of the risk/reward factor, then taking on the comp he did was pretty decent and it's not like it was bad competition, it was a variety of styles and a variety of very solid guys, some overlooked.

I feel and Ouma isn't shit to talk about, Manfredo is about on his level to be honest, but Taylor got credit for taking Ouma on.

[unclepaulie]

This is simply not true and Taylor has NOTHING to keep Calzaghe honest or at bay. Kessler is not going to beat Calzaghe and Kessler is 3x the fighter that Jermain Taylor is, with the boxer-puncher style.

If you honestly cannot see Calzaghe wiping the floor with Taylor, but see Pavlik doing it, then you are not giving Calzaghe any regard at all.

I do give Calzaghe regard, in saying that if the two fought it would be an entertaining and competitive fight, regardless of who won. At least give Taylor a little tiny amount of credit for his accomlishments. Also the only reason i see Pavlik beating Taylor more decisivley than Calzaghe is because he is a bigger, stronger opponent with a style more suited to beat Taylor

[Jose FM]

Well i gotta be honest here, i hate all the blind Calzaghe fans, but honestly he at least beats his opponents decisively with no room for criticism... Im still fuming bout Spinks losing the fight (115-113 Spinks), and on top of that ive had him losing every significant fight his ever had (except Ouma). So bottomline i think Calzaghes better than Taylor.

[Amsterdam]

I do give Calzaghe regard, in saying that if the two fought it would be an entertaining and competitive fight, regardless of who won. At least give Taylor a little tiny amount of credit for his accomlishments. Also the only reason i see Pavlik beating Taylor more decisivley than Calzaghe is because he is a bigger, stronger opponent with a style more suited to beat Taylor

This is where you are wrong.

Workrate+speed+pressure = Taylor's worst nightmare.

Now does this not describe Calzaghe? On top of this, Calzaghe's outside boxing skill is right on Taylor's level, even when you take away his explosive inside fighting.

[unclepaulie]

This is where you are wrong.

Workrate+speed+pressure = Taylor's worst nightmare.

Now does this not describe Calzaghe? On top of this, Calzaghe's outside boxing skill is right on Taylor's level, even when you take away his explosive inside fighting.

You and I are saying two totally different things here. I am not denying that Joe has the skills to beat JT. All im sayin is that i think, in my humble opinion, that the fight would be alot more competitive than alot of people say.

[Zakman]

Calzaghe doesn't need the help of HBOs judges to "win" fights!!! :-(

[Mind Reader]

Jermain won the bigger fights, but Calzaghe is the better fighter by a mile.

[box03]

This is what I meant -

Calzaghe pre-Lacy was only popular in the UK and even then, was not a celebrated fighter in the media. He only had a basic pushing and he brought no money as a supremely dangerous fight to the 'big names', there was positively no way he could have gotten a Darious M, a Hopkins or any of those other name legacy fights before the Lacy showcase, which jumped his regard up a notch.

He was very much overlooked and avoided, but my point was that he still fought very good competition for the SMW division 'of that time' and I mean that by what he could get because Ottke and Beyer ducked him.

When you have the other European names in Ottke and Beyer ducking him and then the American names not going to take you because of the risk/reward factor, then taking on the comp he did was pretty decent and it's not like it was bad competition, it was a variety of styles and a variety of very solid guys, some overlooked.

I feel and Ouma isn't shit to talk about, Manfredo is about on his level to be honest, but Taylor got credit for taking Ouma on. Ouma is a pretty tough fight I mean hes no world beater or anything, I understand Calazaghes been overlooked and maybe even a little avoided. But you can only use that excuse for so long, Im someone who believes if you hold the title for as long as he has there will be opertunities there for you. Like I said in my previous post the mans a great boxer and could beat most or all at or around his wieght division but to be honest with you I never really seen him on a big stage until he fought Lacy in april of 06, and his last center stage fight was with Eubank for the title about 10 years before the Lacey fight. I just dont see him at a ATG ranking unless he fights some bigger names and wins.

[Lampley]

I'm a Taylor fan, but Calzaghe is way too good for Jermain. Taylor does possess the handspeed and right hand power -- even at 168, I suspect -- to keep Calzaghe at least somewhat respectful, but he has virtually no chance of actually winning.

If Kessler falls short and you're looking for a young opponent to dethrone Calzaghe, Chad Dawson is the guy. He has size, speed, reach and skills to do what Taylor (probably) cannot.

[Zakman]

Jermain won the bigger fights, but Calzaghe is the better fighter by a mile.

Taylor has yet to win a "big" fight convincingly. Hell, he couldn't even decisively beat welterweight Spinks, and he should have lost to both Hopkins and Wright - and WOULD have if it wasn't for HBOs influence. :nod

[kg0208]

Taylor has yet to win a "big" fight convincingly. Hell, he couldn't even decisively beat welterweight Spinks, and he should have lost to both Hopkins and Wright - and WOULD have if it wasn't for HBOs influence. :nod

Only way Taylor could have beaten Spinks decisively that night would have been to run the 100 meter sprint and have a lasso.

[Lampley]

Taylor has yet to win a "big" fight convincingly. Hell, he couldn't even decisively beat welterweight Spinks, and he should have lost to both Hopkins and Wright - and WOULD have if it wasn't for HBOs influence. :nod

Zak, as someone who (over)values chin as much as you do, you should at least admit that Spinks was protecting his lack of a solid MW chin by running all night from Taylor.

Jermain looked very bad, but it was going to be very difficult for him to be impressive against an opponent unwilling to fight and who also happens to be very slick.

[Amsterdam]

Only way Taylor could have beaten Spinks decisively that night would have been to run the 100 meter sprint and have a lasso.

Any other competent hard hitting MW would have KOed Spinks.

[kg0208]

Any other competent hard hitting MW would have KOed Spinks.
No they wouldn't have. No other MW would have been able to catch him. Not unless they ran. Spinks didn't engage enough to be stopped.

[Lampley]

Any other competent hard hitting MW would have KOed Spinks.

Who? Pavlik? No. Abraham? No.

The Spinks fight was a mistake for Taylor, plain and simple. Hopefully, it will motivate him to be at his very best against Pavlik.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Taylor in 7 years and 26 or so fights already has abetter resume then Joe C in 13 years and 43 fights. Sad in a way.

Joe C has no one to blame but himself and his team.

[kg0208]

Spinks landed 7 punches per round (85 total). How can anyone think he won the fight? Taylor landed 105 and threw over 100 less since Spinks kept throwing and running....literally sprinting at the end.

[lillarry]

Jermain Taylor cant get no respect on this board. First everyone wants Pavlik to destroy him. Now you cant even compare him to the great "Joe Calzaghe" with out being called a idiot. I just hope for his sake he does not frequent this website:rofl

[lillarry]

Taylor in 7 years and 26 or so fights already has abetter resume then Joe C in 13 years and 43 fights. Sad in a way.

Joe C has no one to blame but himself and his team.


Post of the night:good

[psychopath]

Any other competent hard hitting MW would have KOed Spinks.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: . . . even a lightMW can knock out Spinks . . . that is if Spinks would stop running around like a headless chicken. :yep

:good

[Lance_Uppercut]

Spinks landed 7 punches per round (85 total). How can anyone think he won the fight? Taylor landed 105 and threw over 100 less since Spinks kept throwing and running....literally sprinting at the end.

I honestly don't see how ANYONE would think Spinks won that fight. I can understand people being split over a close fight, but Taylor clearly won.

Now he even 'struggled' with Ouma..:patsch

[Axe]

Taylor has taken on the more dangerous challenges so far, but Calzaghe is the better boxer, and would beat Taylor head-to-head, even now. I don't think too much of Taylor as a boxer, though as a fighter who is willing to face the best, he is as brave as any great champ.