two on one sparring

[jordaw]

recently in my gym my trainer has started putting in three people in the ring at the same time. each minute in each three minute round a different person is ganged up on. so far it has helped a lot with allowing me to develop head movement and it makes it easier to manage while fighting one person. Have any of you done anything like that or heard of that type of thing before and do you think that it is worth it?

[paloalto00]

Doesn't sound smart to me....

[The Predator]

I´ve heard about it, but would never use that myself. I want it to be as near real boxing as possible and two against one isn´t.
This is, as always, just my opinion.
All the best
The Predator

[Johnboy2007]

Sounds a bit silly? If you were doing a martial art where you were practicing dealing with 2 oppenents then fair enough. But boxing is a sport i would rather practice the sport as real as possible. ( plus i have enough trouble with one guy:lol:)

[twoohands]

doesnt sound very practical to me, unless you are training to be a street fighter ofcourse. If your coach is doing 2 on 1 sparring to help you to learn with pressure, i dont think you will benifit from it boxing wise. You could spar an opponent well above your level if you want pressure. Ive heard of it but dont know anyone that does it or has done it.

One thing it could be god for is fitness, by having 2 fresher opponents in the ring with you, other then that i dont see any benifits..

[jordaw]

well from what i have gotten out of it the benefits are that it helps me deal with pressure alot. sparring with much better opponents doesnt help as much in my opinion in dealing with pressure because when you are sparring one person at a much higher level they usually just beat you up and i have never learned anything doing that. now when i do one on one sparring it is much easier for me to stay in control and i move my head much more now. also it really helps with fitness because when you are ganged up on you are moving your body so much and throwing a lot of punches. one thing it is not good at all for however is when i want to work on one particular thing like distancing myself in the ring or movement or clinching or something because the other person completely changes everything. but i have felt a noticeable difference now when i am in the ring with one other person in my defense.

[elTerrible]

I could see them doing an alternating pattern where 1 goes then switch to the other so that both are fresh or maybe 2 different styles

but I dont like 2 on 1. I dont have any experience it just seems like you could develop bad habits because you are trying to block 4 arms instead of 2 and you will develop habits for 4 arms and doing that in a normal 1 on 1 match just seems like a bad idea.

[GPater11093]

in our gym we do it in fun. normally the 8 or 9 year olds agaisnt the older guys

[Jennifer Love Hewitt]

This might be fun, but it does not sound like very functional training for boxing.

[Bodi]

Not the best drill imo.

In boxing you fight one opponent, your focus must always be on that one opponent.

In training, your focus needs to be as sport specific as possible to get the most transferable benefits to the actual fight.

It might make you better at dealing with pressure, but the pressure that is being exerted is unlikely to be repeated in an actual fight... unless you are fighting a guy with four arms.

When dealing with pressure in the actual fight, your primary aim is to defend yourself, but you must also focus on find opportunities to counter. You do this by focusing on your opponent - you cannot focus on two opponents at once. Further to this, although you may feel more confident at dealing with pressure, you could well be limiting your opportunities to learn to turn your opponent, and if you don't master this skill, come fight night you will have a limited set of manouvers to enable you to avoid sustained periods of pressure... although you will feel confident whilst you sit on the ropes and let your opponent unload on you, all the while he is racking up points.

[The Predator]

Not the best drill imo.

In boxing you fight one opponent, your focus must always be on that one opponent.

In training, your focus needs to be as sport specific as possible to get the most transferable benefits to the actual fight.

It might make you better at dealing with pressure, but the pressure that is being exerted is unlikely to be repeated in an actual fight... unless you are fighting a guy with four arms.

When dealing with pressure in the actual fight, your primary aim is to defend yourself, but you must also focus on find opportunities to counter. You do this by focusing on your opponent - you cannot focus on two opponents at once. Further to this, although you may feel more confident at dealing with pressure, you could well be limiting your opportunities to learn to turn your opponent, and if you don't master this skill, come fight night you will have a limited set of manouvers to enable you to avoid sustained periods of pressure... although you will feel confident whilst you sit on the ropes and let your opponent unload on you, all the while he is racking up points.

Well said.
The predator

[Pugsley]

I know that Mayweather used to do fifteen minute full sparring with random opponents. I can only guess he did this to train adaptability in his defense.

[scrap]

Its not specific, but the Kids have fun, Ive done it myself in the gym. It does give another dimension as regards Vision, which is good plus adaptabilty.

[Mandanda]

I know a lot of gyms do sparring where one guy stays in and every 2-3 mins his opponent changes never seen or heard of two on one sparring though.

[Mandanda]

I think if your coach re thought it he could make a good drill out of this....just not have the two guys going at the one at the same time though. I think if he used the two guys wisely it could be a really intense yet technical practice.

[karatekid530]

i did that in karate and it worked fine, dunno about doing it boxing though. we do a similar and i think better version with 9 or 10 people where one person is the subject and the other people are the sparring partner. every minute or 2 the other people rotate out to stay fresh while the subject has to adapt to the new style and keep fighting someone who's fresh while he's more and more worn out. i love doing that drill.

[micro]

Hands down easily one of the most pointless and retarded thing's I've heard of ever. What is with the kids these days?

[ripcity]

recently in my gym my trainer has started putting in three people in the ring at the same time. each minute in each three minute round a different person is ganged up on. so far it has helped a lot with allowing me to develop head movement and it makes it easier to manage while fighting one person. Have any of you done anything like that or heard of that type of thing before and do you think that it is worth it?

Is this for boxing training? By that I mean to get read for a boxing match?
It seemes like a very good idea for self defense. As for boxing i can see where creating extra stress in training can lead to a clam mind in a bout but if I were a trainer (I'm not) I don't think I would use it.

[The Predator]

Well, I am a trainer and I will never use it. To change sparring partners after each round is fine even after a minute or two could work, but never ever would I try to put two against one in the ring.
The Predator

[scrap]

Think the concept is being taken to seriously. Its a Fun thing, where two young ones with no expeirance mess about with a seasoned performer whose not Punching back as such to Teach the Kids movement. Ive had World Champs do it, even seen Duran do it once at an Amatuer Club. The Kids loved it, plus the seasoned Pro has to find positions. :D

[twoohands]

Think the concept is being taken to seriously. Its a Fun thing, where two young ones with no expeirance mess about with a seasoned performer whose not Punching back as such to Teach the Kids movement. Ive had World Champs do it, even seen Duran do it once at an Amatuer Club. The Kids loved it, plus the seasoned Pro has to find positions. :D


you mentioned before your a trainer, and you trained world champions. Which champions have you trained and where do you train? cheers mate..

[HairyHighlander]

I have had the 2 on 1 sparring. Was a gym in Perth, Aus.

Basically, you finish of a give or take combo with one then turn to the other. Wasnt full on and it was more for movement and pivoting from what i could make out.

[scrap]

Two Hands it doesnt matter who I trained. If it makes sense use it if not Dont, Hope this Helps. LOL

[karatekid530]

actually it does matter. i personally don't care, but i'm guessing he's trying to gauge your credibility. no need to be an ass about it, it's a simple question.

[brown bomber]

actually it does matter. i personally don't care, but i'm guessing he's trying to gauge your credibility. no need to be an ass about it, it's a simple question.

Actually it doesn't matter. He has a right to privacy and offered an opinion.... He doesn't have to validate that to anyone.

And for the record my opinion is the same as his.

[scrap]

Thanks Jeff

[twoohands]

actually it does matter. i personally don't care, but i'm guessing he's trying to gauge your credibility. no need to be an ass about it, it's a simple question.


this is true what your saying..it was a simple questio that all..

and to scrap if your gonna get on the net amd drop words like ive had world champions and im a trainer and in my gym, you got to expect people to ask questions, and you are intitled to some privacy but it doesnt sound like you want it with the statements your dropping, just my thoughts. :D

[scrap]

Thats cool, The Germans Bombed our Chip Shop, that wasnt cool

[twoohands]

Thats cool, The Germans Bombed our Chip Shop, that wasnt cool


so you like fush and chups ey??

[scrap]

No just that I was in it at the time

[twoohands]

No just that I was in it at the time


how did you make it out?? :shock:

[scrap]

Indestructable and very well made, being in the cellar at the time helped.

[twoohands]

lucky the chip shop had a bomb shelter...good chips??

[scrap]

Bit overdone

[JACKTHERIPPER]

recently in my gym my trainer has started putting in three people in the ring at the same time. each minute in each three minute round a different person is ganged up on. so far it has helped a lot with allowing me to develop head movement and it makes it easier to manage while fighting one person. Have any of you done anything like that or heard of that type of thing before and do you think that it is worth it?

it is a russian soviet scool:bbb

[wayneflint]

Trust me scrap is legit, i know him in person and ive trained in the same gym with him, he just doesnt want people knowing who he is so he can chat freely online like the rest of us, he doesnt have to prove himself to anyone here, and the comments he makes are being modest in respect of his experience in boxing.

[libtolu]

Two Hands it doesnt matter who I trained. If it makes sense use it if not Dont, Hope this Helps. LOL

It sounds like you're making shit up. What's your name? what people have you trained? these things mean we can verufy your claims we are not a religious sect we don't believe things without proof and source.

really i don't care but i wont claim something without providing proof.

[brown bomber]

It sounds like you're making shit up. What's your name? what people have you trained? these things mean we can verufy your claims we are not a religious sect we don't believe things without proof and source.
You've got about 16 posts you demmick have a word with yourself. :lol:

[brown bomber]

really i don't care but i wont claim something without providing proof. but you do care, or you wouldn't ask :patsch

[tommygun711]

sounds stupid

[gutto]

I have seen it used in a couple of gyms and seen it on you tube as well. As scrap has already said its more of a fun thing the boxers arnt going full wack. But it does get the single boxer working on movment and vision. The two boxers dont normally punch at the same time. What you do get is a combination from one side quickly followed by another combination from a different angle.

The single boxer has to use angles and fast foot work not to mention focus with punches coming from both angles.
As we all know its all about angles.

Im not saying this is the way forward by any means but another tool for the trainer/ boxer to use.

[SouthpawSlayer]

i have seen it done by some travellers once, kind of shit tbh

[Youngblood]

People would be wise not to question who scrap is, but spend more time and effort trying to decipher what he speaks of. Sometimes it takes a bit to figure, but it is always gold.

[Iceveins]

Dumb. Boxing is fighting against 1 person, not 2. Then once you become good at fighting 2 people now what, Kung Fu movies?

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[Slacker]

I've read somewhere that Ann Wolfe uses this technique, as well as other unorthodox methods, training James Kirkland and her other fighters.

"Ann Wolfe does not train like any other trainer. She has them- all of them- from young to old, fight two people at the same time on a regular basis. Her fighters spar every day, not the usual three times a week of most gyms. They run 14 miles a day in the Texas heat, chasing or running from a truck with heavy bags on both sides that they punch at the same time. They carry boulders and get gang-tackled. As far as this writer can tell, Ann Wolfe’s gym is the closest you’re going to get to Sparta, short of re-watching 300. Wolfe’s training methods have been called crazy or over-the-top. For her, it’s just life. It’s preparing for the coming chaos by learning how to become chaos and be able to react in that space. "

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