ALEXEEV/RELEFORD Saturday.

[micky]

Any of you guys seen much of Releford, I note that he fought over in Germany a couple of times against Licina and Dimitrenko, he looks a decent test for Alexeev, whilst still trying to rebuild his confidence.

Is he any good or just a tough fighter who don't get hurt very often.

Alexeev still has it all to prove in his comeback, could he be one of these fighters who can dish it out but does not like taking it back?

[Bobby]

releford is durable with limited punching power but is busy, he is a gatekeeper type who will catch top fighters of guard if they overlook him

[Odo]

releford is durable with limited punching power but is busy, he is a gatekeeper type who will catch top fighters of guard if they overlook him

Yep! the ideal opponent for Alexeev at this stage of his career.
Releford is durable,tough,enters the ring to win,but can be beaten by any truly good opponent.

Alexeev must regain his self confidence.Relefordn cant hold a candle to the Russian in terms of skills.I guess the psychological factor will be decisive in their upcomming encounter.
IN his last outing to a ring Alexeev was a shadow of his former self.He looked very mediocre against an opponent whom he would have murdered just a couple of months before......................well,before.....he surprisingly lost to Ramirez.

He reminds me a little bit of Bidenko who had also looked great before Virchis brutally knocked him out.I very much hope that he wont take a leaf out of his stable mate's book!

[emanuel_augustus]

I've seen many of Releford's fights. He's no joke. He upset a pretty capable fighter in Ramon Garbey and then beat Elicier Castillo in good performances. He also had good moments against Tye Fields and Roman Greenburg, although ultimately wasn't active enough against either guy.

I think Releford would make a much more effective Cruiserweight as he doesn't have a lot of power, but is very rangy and possesses and good jab/right hand combined with a solid workrate when he's most effective. I do wonder how he's going to make the 200 lb. limit since he just fought on 6/13 at 226 pounds. He's not a guy that's ever out of shape.

Alexeev should win this, but I really don't think he'll stop Releford, and a motivated Releford at 200 pounds is a tough task for anyone. The question on Releford's end is whether or not the weight loss and desire to engage a strong fighter like Alexeev will be there. But, If Alexeev is really a shell after his loss, maybe he loses this.

[Farmboxer]

I agree. Alexeev should win this fight.

[Odo]

I've seen many of Releford's fights. He's no joke. He upset a pretty capable fighter in Ramon Garbey and then beat Elicier Castillo in good performances. He also had good moments against Tye Fields and Roman Greenburg, although ultimately wasn't active enough against either guy.

I think Releford would make a much more effective Cruiserweight as he doesn't have a lot of power, but is very rangy and possesses and good jab/right hand combined with a solid workrate when he's most effective. I do wonder how he's going to make the 200 lb. limit since he just fought on 6/13 at 226 pounds. He's not a guy that's ever out of shape.

Alexeev should win this, but I really don't think he'll stop Releford, and a motivated Releford at 200 pounds is a tough task for anyone. The question on Releford's end is whether or not the weight loss and desire to engage a strong fighter like Alexeev will be there. But, If Alexeev is really a shell after his loss, maybe he loses this.

Licina outpointed Releford quite convincingly. A couple of months ago I would have dared to say that Licina didnt play in Alexeev's dimension,but at present I am not that sure anymore.

By the way I watched Licina live on the undercard of AA vs Oral a few days ago.

Very entertaining fight gracias to his opponent,the game and showy Mexican Espacio.
:DI still get a smile on my face when I remember that braggy,crazy,clownish,and entertaining fighter from Mexico.The pudgy Mexican looked as if he had eaten too many torritos and nachos and didnt have a clue about the art of boxing.
He proved to be a teak tough cookie with an iron beard.At times he made Licina look like a very mediocre and clumsy clubfighter.He sometimes truly exposed Licina's weak spots.Esparcio's style was very american,very mobile,moving his upper body up and down as if he were a feverishly religious muselman praying in a mosque.Now and then he sticked his chin out inviting Licina to heat him.He made fun of his Bosnian foe showboating in almost every round.A very talkative person in the ring he was,the Sancho Pansa from Mexico.Lician didnt take any risks and cautiously outpointed his foe who had to take some good shots.Nevertheless,he now and then scored with some of combos,too.He fought in spurs,but Esparcio wasted too much energy with showboating and fighting for the galleries.
Anyway! Props to him for making me laugh! He even didnt seem to be that keen on leaving the ring as he got the idea that he deserved as much applaus as the victor.On top of that all he later flirted with two German chicks in the arena!
Damn! If Licina had an ounce of Espario's flamboyant personality and a bit of his charisma he would be a very promising cruiser weight hope by now.
Sadly,he is a good fighter good in almost all departments,but as dull as most politicians when they talk about whatever they think is important.
I still dont understand why Sauerland signed up such a fighter.He will never make any decent bucks with such a boring fighter.You get bored silly watching him do his job in the ring.

[catasyou]

The beating Alekseev took from Ramirez I think affected him.

He looked bad against a mediocre opponent in Alexander.

[Farmboxer]

There is a big question mark for this fight. ??????????????

[Odo]

There is a big question mark for this fight. ??????????????

Why??:huh:admin

Alexeev injured? Releford has pulled out?

[ishy]

Releford didn't come out for the 4th round.

[TFFP]

What were the circumstances? Injury? Did he take a heavy beating?

Anybody seen this? :huh

We need info. Quick.

Great news for Alexeev, on paper that is a fantastic result. Only one other guy stopped Releford.

[ishy]

From Fightnews:


Russian cruiserweight contender Alexander Alekseev (18-1, 16 KOs) came back to his punching best with a third-round stoppage of American Kendrick Releford (20-13-2, 10 KOs). WBO #5 and WBA/WBC #8 Alekseev didn’t look extra spectacular but did his portion of work, connecting to his opponent’s hand and body at will and rocking him numerous times in first three rounds. Releford retired on his stool after the third stanza on what didn’t seem to be a dangerous cut. Alekseev is only the second boxer to stop Releford inside the distance; the first one being DaVarryl Williamson in 2004.

[TFFP]

Sounds better than his last performance. Maybe the confidence is slowly coming back.

At some point he's gotta sink or swim though. Fight somebody that can take him some rounds and fight back, because thats the only time we'll see if he's improved on his weaknesses.

[catasyou]

Alekseev is one of the biggest hypejobs in recent years.

[Farmboxer]

Seems like his comeback is doing well though.

[andyZOR]

Lebedev is the best Russian Cruiser. ; ]

Lebedev > Drodz, Alexeev, Tokarev, :yep

[TFFP]

:lol: Is he hell. He's got his hands full with Maccarinelli!

I still think Alexeev can do well.

[Odo]

Sounds better than his last performance. Maybe the confidence is slowly coming back.

At some point he's gotta sink or swim though. Fight somebody that can take him some rounds and fight back, because thats the only time we'll see if he's improved on his weaknesses.

German tv only showed about 20 seconds of Alexeev's encounter with Releford.

Very well spoken,tffp! I quite agree with you!:good

I,too,would like to see how Alexeev fares against a durable fighter who is beatable but who doesnt pose too great a threat to Alexeev.
I am still not convinced that Alexeev is mentally ready to test shark infested territory once again.
Anyway! I still believe in him!:thumbsup

[Odo]

Lebedev is the best Russian Cruiser. ; ]

Lebedev > Drodz, Alexeev, Tokarev, :yep

Well, I for my part still believe in Alexeev and think that he has the potential to be a very dominating champ at cruiser weight if he can overcome his mental problems and regain his old self confidence.

Alexeev has more firepower in his fists than any of your mentioned further Russian cruiser weight fighters,was the most successful amateur of all your pack,and his skills are superb.

Tokarev is strong and can punch,but he is also very predictable and one-dimensional.Almost the same can be said about Lebedev.He is a little bit faster than the Tartar-Russian but is not as robust as he is.
Drozd is the most versatile of the three fighters,but has some weak spots which will be his downfall against a fighter who can take advantage of them.
I still rank Alexeev ahead of them three.I freely admit that I can miss my target by a mile,so to speak.

[catasyou]

:lol: Is he hell. He's got his hands full with Maccarinelli!

I still think Alexeev can do well.

Haven't you hyped him enough already to look bad?

Give hm up man,he's nothing real special.

[TFFP]

Haven't you hyped him enough already to look bad?

Give hm up man,he's nothing real special.
Not everybody can be special. He won't be that, it doesn't mean he can't be good.

[catasyou]

Not everybody can be special. He won't be that, it doesn't mean he can't be good.

So we can finally agree he won't be undisputed cruiserweight champion as the prophecys have shown?

Man,this guy was hyped.:-(

[TFFP]

Probably not, but he can win a title with some improvements.

What do you mean finally agree? Seems to me you have only voiced your opinion once he lost, I didn't hear much beforehand. Everybody is an expert in hindsight. Everybody has 100% predictions in boxing that way.

Man hype has nothing to do with anything. It's no reason to dislike people or to completely write off their chances. Alexeev isn't a bad fighter because he lost, he's just got weaknesses that were never previously shown.

[catasyou]

Because he didn't fight nobody.

Yet many people including you said he would undisputed CW champ,hell TommyV said this even after Ramirez beat him.

All the hype was unfounded.

I haven't seen the Releford fight but he looked unimpressive with Alexander tbh.

[TFFP]

The hype was unfounded, boohoo. That is over now, for how long have we got to play a broken record. People have admitted their mistakes. What are we supposed to do, beg for eternal forgiveness and never mention Alexeev again, while the hindsight experts shoot their loads?

He's picking up the pieces of his career and Saturdays result was a good one.

That is all for now.

[Butch Coolidge]

Let's dispense with the term "hype". Alekseev entered the pro ranks with the reputation as a top international amatuer boxer with an outstanding record versus top opposition. I still say he can fight his way to champion status

[catasyou]

The hype was unfounded, boohoo. That is over now, for how long have we got to play a broken record. People have admitted their mistakes. What are we supposed to do, beg for eternal forgiveness and never mention Alexeev again, while the hindsight experts shoot their loads?

He's picking up the pieces of his career and Saturdays result was a good one.

That is all for now.

:rofl:rofl:lol:

[Rock0052]

Good win for Alexeev. It's been less than 6 months since the Ramirez loss, and he's already fought twice in an effort to fight his way out of this slump. I'd like to see him get another 2 bouts in this year against journeyman-type comp before he steps his opposition up in 2010.

[TFFP]

Journeymen yeah - but we need a tough one.

He needs a real tough guy that will at least test his stamina under minimal stress.

The problem was Ramirez didn't go away, and fought back hard. He at least needs to prove himself under the first scenario.

[Rock0052]

Journeymen yeah - but we need a tough one.

He needs a real tough guy that will at least test his stamina under minimal stress.

The problem was Ramirez didn't go away, and fought back hard. He at least needs to prove himself under the first scenario.

I think that's exactly what we'll see within his next 2 fights. Getting guys out of there early won't fix what Alexeev's problem is, but it should at least help to build back up his shattered confidence. He'll get at least one fight with a durable journeyman type before they step him back up to contender-level competition IMO, which should help him get some rounds in. This is pure hypothesis on my part, but it wouldn't surprise me to see a rematch with Ramirez sometime in 2010 since I don't think he's going to be beating Huck.

[TFFP]

You really don't give him any sort of chances against Huck?

He was disapointing in his fight against Ismailov indeed, but I still think he'd have a chance against Huck in the same way he beat Alexeev.

If he can soak up enough of Huck's wild attacks, he can exploit the German's stamina too. He could take him into the same deep water and drown him. Maybe. Huck is the favourite of course.

[Rock0052]

You really don't give him any sort of chances against Huck?

He was disapointing in his fight against Ismailov indeed, but I still think he'd have a chance against Huck in the same way he beat Alexeev.

If he can soak up enough of Huck's wild attacks, he can exploit the German's stamina too. He could take him into the same deep water and drown him. Maybe. Huck is the favourite of course.

I give him a chance, to be sure, but Huck's a tough out who is more vulnerable to a pure boxer than to someone with Ramirez's style. I'm not sure if Ramirez can either outbox him or outlast him- the latter's more possible, but he's going to have to go through a good deal of punishment to get there.

I'm expecting a pretty exciting, action packed fight out of the two when it happens though. :thumbsup

[Odo]

Journeymen yeah - but we need a tough one.

He needs a real tough guy that will at least test his stamina under minimal stress.

The problem was Ramirez didn't go away, and fought back hard. He at least needs to prove himself under the first scenario.

Releford was and still is a teak tough journeyman,tffp!

A pity that Alexeev took him out that quickly!

By the way I tend to agree with rock. If Ramirez loses his encounter with Huck we will probably see a rematch between the Argie and Alexeev within the next couple of months.

To be honest Ramirez won against both Alexeev and Ismailov...............two upset victories in my opinion.

I looked up Ramirez's fight record at boxrec.I didnt know that he won a split decision over Ordiales.
I ve seen Ramirez's compatriot twice.Makes me really wonder how the hell Ramirez was able to outtough Alexeev.

Tough journeyman? Hm!............................Macca!:yep

[avk47]

Let's dispense with the term "hype". Alekseev entered the pro ranks with the reputation as a top international amatuer boxer with an outstanding record versus top opposition. I still say he can fight his way to champion status


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