Will Taylor run for 12 rounds from Pavlik?

[DoumB]

Cause he sure as hell wont trade with him and I dont think he will outbox him,
I've just finished watching a few fights of Pavlik and I've come to a conclusion.


OK, the concensus here was that Pavlik was somehow sloppy and slow, he looks slow and sloppy at times,

However he is EXTREMELY accurate with his punches and find his targets from every angles he throw and not like many beleives, he is always in balance when landing those bombs,

Taylor on the other hand is faster, has better footwork but cant outbox Pavlik for 12 rounds and we no the Ghost as some serious power in his right hand and his left hook(in both hands but those 2 are his best shots)

I dont think Taylor will win this one, I think he will definatly have moments since hes more skilled then the likes of Miranda but he wont be able to discourage Kelly.

Pavlik will be all over him for the lenght of the fight wich I dont think will go 12 rounds,

Late TKO for kelly is the most likebale scenario for me.

[Sug3]

Easy decision for taylor,because pavlik will get frustrated with taylor's jab and that will be the key to this fight,taylor's jab and movement will give pavlik hell,taylor will win a ud,i got money on it.

[jsimps]

Will Taylor run for 12 rounds from Pavlik?

Only if he is smart.

[Fab2333]

Easy decision for taylor,because pavlik will get frustrated with taylor's jab and that will be the key to this fight,taylor's jab and movement will give pavlik hell,taylor will win a ud,i got money on it.
yup couldnt agree more with you, Taylor will jab and circl around the ring effectively. Land one two's on Pavlik all night. Pavlik is very easy to hit. I dont think that Taylor will mis him much the whole night. I think Taylor is going to stop him by round 7

[Executioner]

I think Taylor is going to stop him by round 7

:lol:

Very likely scenario when you have average punching power like Taylor.

[thewoo]

yup couldnt agree more with you, Taylor will jab and circl around the ring effectively. Land one two's on Pavlik all night. Pavlik is very easy to hit. I dont think that Taylor will mis him much the whole night. I think Taylor is going to stop him by round 7

I would be very very shocked if Taylor was to stop pavlik especially that early. taylor's power has been non existent latley and he is taking on a guy with a very sturdy chin.

[Fab2333]

:lol:

Very likely scenario when you have average punching power like Taylor.

Ight we will see. When ya boy gets frstrated from getting popped in the mouth with a jab all night we are going to see. After the jab then the 1,2's will come. And then by 7 he will b ready 2 go

[DoumB]

lol@ the taylor «jab» did u guys see his recent fights? he simply cant put a nice plan to action

[faisal]

does any one else think that taylor could do a repeat of calzaghe-lacy, people had put calzaghe as the underdog and there was all this talk of how lacy would put an end to calzaghe i dont need to remind any of you of what proceeded to happen,

[DoumB]

does any one else think that taylor could do a repeat of calzaghe-lacy, people had put calzaghe as the underdog and there was all this talk of how lacy would put an end to calzaghe i dont need to remind any of you of what proceeded to happen,

calzague is LEAGUES above Taylor in term of talent so no, its not a possibility

[ChampionsForever]

I think Taylor will win a decision after a few rocky moments.

[Spitfire7]

Taylor running? I think not, after that booing debacle with Stinks. This time, he will try to engage just to regain some lost respectability. Engaging however will be his undoing, as Pav will catch him with accurate bombs, resulting in a 9th rd. KO.

[DoumB]

Taylor running? I think not, after that booing debacle with Stinks. This time, he will try to engage just to regain some lost respectability. Engaging however will be his undoing, as Pav will catch him with accurate bombs, resulting in a 9th rd. KO.

Thats something that could be right, since he will proly wanna prove something.

[samita]

Taylor running? I think not, after that booing debacle with Stinks. This time, he will try to engage just to regain some lost respectability. Engaging however will be his undoing, as Pav will catch him with accurate bombs, resulting in a 9th rd. KO.
don't think he got the balls to do it. some boxers dont give a f what the fans think. look at mayweather, he didn't change one bit, and he'd probably run all night against the smaller hatton.

[kg0208]

Stop with the crap supposed boxing fans.

Even if Taylor loses it won't be from running. Has he ever run? NO!

So why bring up such an assanine thing?

[joe33]

The sad thing is,who ever loses either by a bad knock out,or points,they will have gone from hot shot prosepct for pavlik and great fighter for taylor,to a fucking bum,and over the hill on these boards LOL.

[trac209]

taylor will run if plan a witch is to box him doesn't work out. Plan b is a PBF imatation.

[FlatNose]

Pavlick is made to order for Taylor, not enough movement to get away from Jermains jab.Once Taylor establishes the jab, Kelly is off balance and can't get leverage.Kelly starts to turn beet red, and then his face busts up as the fight goes on.Taylor tko 11.

[MacManJr.]

lol@ the taylor «jab» did u guys see his recent fights? he simply cant put a nice plan to actionAll those fights were against people that were hard to hit. Pavlik can't spell defense.

[kg0208]

taylor will run if plan a witch is to box him doesn't work out. Plan b is a PBF imatation.

Really? And when he was getting outboxed by Hopkins, did he run?

Yah...I didn't think so.

[MacManJr.]

Really? And when he was getting outboxed by Hopkins, did he run?

Yah...I didn't think so.There is no hope for some people man. JT never ran a day in his life.

[natep]

I don't think he will run but he will be backing up all night. I noticed him doing this against Ouma who is a guy that keeps coming forward and throwing punches all night.

[tpuz]

Taylor claims he is going to stand in there and go toe to toe with Pavlik. If he does (which I doubt), Pavlik's power will back him up. And as far as Taylor's jab, he's not going to all of the sudden start using it again, it's gone from his arsenal. Pavlik by round 2 if Taylor stands in with him, and Pavlik by round 8 if Taylor's careful.

[alex-boxer42]

Ouma intimitaded him! If you watch that fight, you can actually see that the Jermain in the second half of that fight was not as high-spirited as the begining. Because Oumas punching had an effect. Pavlik just needs to put pressure from the begining, take whatever sissy punches jermain throws, keep hittin him..yada yada yada jermains will start to lose his legs and if he wsnt running already, he will be by the end of the night, well his night lol.

To the guy who said Jermain never a day in his life, I hope you mean outside the ring because I distinctly remember him turning his back in the hopkins fight and sprinting the other way.:lol:

[MacManJr.]

It's hilarious how some of ya'll act like Pavlik is a damn terminator or something. Dude is far from invicible. Miranda had his nose leaking like a bad faucet.

[alex-boxer42]

When that bell rings, mark my words, Kelly Pavlik will become the terminator.:fire :bbb :fire


EDIT:Thats just how sure I am that hes going to mop the canvas with Taylor.

[Jose FM]

Yes Taylor will run, if he doesnt he will get knocked out.

[rendog67]

if he wants to win yes

[cdsimple]

Ouma intimitaded him! If you watch that fight, you can actually see that the Jermain in the second half of that fight was not as high-spirited as the begining. Because Oumas punching had an effect. Pavlik just needs to put pressure from the begining, take whatever sissy punches jermain throws, keep hittin him..yada yada yada jermains will start to lose his legs and if he wsnt running already, he will be by the end of the night, well his night lol.

To the guy who said Jermain never a day in his life, I hope you mean outside the ring because I distinctly remember him turning his back in the hopkins fight and sprinting the other way.:lol:

The only reason Jermain was not high-spirited is because he blew his load throwing wild hooks and straights trying to knock ouma out infront of his hometown fans. He was out of gas after round 4. Oumas punching had no effect.

No he wont run from Pavlik, even if hes taking massive shots, he still wont run, thats not the type of fighter Taylor is. He may try to box and circle him, but he wont run.

[MrMagic]

What?
When did Taylor ever run?
Taylor will probably take him to school though, but he never ran from nobody, and I don't think he will even think of running from Pavlik.
Actually, Pavlik brings something new to Taylor, he's not holding(hopkins) or running(spinks). I think this will be a great war, somewhat a classic, remember THE FEW good scenes from B-hops vs. Taylor.... that's what it will look like, but for the whole fight. Taylor by late TKO or UD.

[Zakman]

Taylor running? I think not, after that booing debacle with Stinks. This time, he will try to engage just to regain some lost respectability. Engaging however will be his undoing, as Pav will catch him with accurate bombs, resulting in a 9th rd. KO.

Exactly. There is pressure on Taylor to actually FIGHT for once, and this will indeed prove his undoing, as he doesn't take the greatest shot - which is why he's been fighting light-hitters moving up from lower weight classes.

I think Pavlik gets him earlier than nine, though - only if Taylor runs like the OP suggested does he last that long. One way or another, Pavlik will get him. No gift decisions THIS time!!:-(

[TroubleLurks]

No, he won't run. He will box Pavliks ears off using his speed and combinations. Pavlik will be much easier to hit compared to Winky, Hops or Spinks. Kelly will have his moments but I think Taylor will win a clear UD.

[DoumB]

No, he won't run. He will box Pavliks ears off using his speed and combinations. Pavlik will be much easier to hit compared to Winky, Hops or Spinks. Kelly will have his moments but I think Taylor will win a clear UD.

your right pavlik is easy to hit, but so is jermaine and pavlik is a HUGE puncher.

[natep]

Did anyone forget what Kassim Ouma did to Jermain? Ouma is a 154lb fighter who was making Jermain step back for more than half the fight. Pavlik is much bigger than Ouma and hits a ton harder than him as well.

[dcantwell]

If Taylor was fighting Miranda and that upprecut that made Pavlik's nose
bleed, I hate to tell you, it would have been all over for Taylor, that shot
would have put any other middleweight out.
Youngstown, born and raised....
Old school training.....to be continued after the 29th.

[Still~style]

this is a HUGE fight. white vs. black. brawler vs. boxer.

i think kelly is the smarter fighter and will try to pressure jarmaine into an uncomfrtable zone, making jermaine's skill useless. however jermaine is a powerful, and explosive puncher who may be able to keep kelly at bay with the jab. if he does this effectively then it will be a smooth decision for taylor. depends on which taylor shows up.

[psychopath]

Will Taylor run for 12 rounds from Pavlik?

Since when did u people see Taylor run from his opponent? :D

Did he run against Bhops? Winky? Ouma? Spinks? :roll:

. . . . and you expect him to learn how to run just over night? :think

[psychopath]

taylor is stupid, he just punches without putting any thought into what he's doing. pavlik on the other hand is smart and will stick to a gameplan. taylor was afraid to exchange with spinks for chrissake. pavlik will mentally destroy taylor.

Afraid to exchange with Spinks? :yikes

Is that the Spinks who kept running all night? :huh


:rofl

[psychopath]

what fight were you watching. even manny was pleading with him.

Oh yeah Manny was pleading with him to let go of his hands . . . but he can't because Spinks is no where to be found. He hit and run . . . do you understand the scenario?

Taylor doesn't want to do that . . . because he'll look pretty bad missing a lot of punches making wild swings in the air.

Learn buddy and understand what you're saying. If it was Taylor who refused to exchange it will be Taylor running away from Spinks. :yep

[Toopretty]

Oh yeah Manny was pleading with him to let go of his hands . . . but he can't because Spinks is no where to be found. He hit and run . . . do you understand the scenario?

Taylor doesn't want to do that . . . because he'll look pretty bad missing a lot of punches making wild swings in the air.

Learn buddy and understand what you're saying. If it was Taylor who refused to exchange it will be Taylor running away from Spinks. :yep:good:good:good

These bafooms dont realize the fact that spinks was a moving target for 12 rounds of that fight...he was circling taylor from ding to the dong of the bell. Spinks was on extreme run mode...lol And for Taylor running from Pavlik..Taylor does not have a running style and he does not have the balance, stamina etc etc to run..he will box...but Pavlik has his # and the way taylor has that bad posture and hunches over AND KEEPING THAT GOD DAMNED LEFT HAND BY HIS WAIST LIKE HE IS GOING TO DRAW A GUN. Thats the one and only reason I am not a Taylor fan ...that shit drives me crazy...like he got one hand in his pocket..lol Anyway..Pavlik is pretty damned accurate with that overhand right..he will catch Taylor. I will be at this fighting rooting for him..but Taylor is losing this one... :blood

[Executioner]

I dunno where the fuck 'afraid to exchange with Spinks' comes from..Cory just wouldn't stop moving and to me he seemed like the one relucant to engage. I don't think he stopped for more than three seconds in that fight.

[psychopath]

:good:good:good

These bafooms dont realize the fact that spinks was a moving target for 12 rounds of that fight...he was circling taylor from ding to the dong of the bell. Spinks was on extreme run mode...lol And for Taylor running from Pavlik..Taylor does not have a running style and he does not have the balance, stamina etc etc to run..he will box...but Pavlik has his # and the way taylor has that bad posture and hunches over AND KEEPING THAT GOD DAMNED LEFT HAND BY HIS WAIST LIKE HE IS GOING TO DRAW A GUN. Thats the one and only reason I am not a Taylor fan ...that shit drives me crazy...like he got one hand in his pocket..lol Anyway..Pavlik is pretty damned accurate with that overhand right..he will catch Taylor. I will be at this fighting rooting for him..but Taylor is losing this one... :blood

Well you're right bruh. :yep Pavlik maybe able to knock Taylor out with his accurate punching but I just don't see Taylor running . . . because he can't. :D The fact is he can't even fight while backing up. :lol:

:good

[Toopretty]

I dunno where the fuck 'afraid to exchange with Spinks' comes from..Cory just wouldn't stop moving and to me he seemed like the one relucant to engage. I don't think he stopped for more than three seconds in that fight.
:good:good:good:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl man these guys are LOCO:nut:nut:nut

[sues2nd]

Easy decision for taylor,because pavlik will get frustrated with taylor's jab and that will be the key to this fight,taylor's jab and movement will give pavlik hell,taylor will win a ud,i got money on it.

:thumbsup

[Toopretty]

Exactly. There is pressure on Taylor to actually FIGHT for once, and this will indeed prove his undoing, as he doesn't take the greatest shot - which is why he's been fighting light-hitters moving up from lower weight classes.

I think Pavlik gets him earlier than nine, though - only if Taylor runs like the OP suggested does he last that long. One way or another, Pavlik will get him. No gift decisions THIS time!!:-(

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[Toopretty]

Taylor does not have good movement??? In spurts..but his jab is not enough to keep pavlik off. And pavlik has the reach and the str8 right hand to throw over Taylors jab if he gets jab happy. Taylor can throw double and triple jabs but Pavlik is a guy that can counter it even though he is slow as all crap on his feet. Thats what I see happening...

[lillarry]

Someone should buy Pavlik a uniform cause he's going to skool baby!!!!!!!!!!!

zing :lol:

[lillarry]

taylor is stupid, he just punches without putting any thought into what he's doing. pavlik on the other hand is smart and will stick to a gameplan. taylor was afraid to exchange with spinks for chrissake. pavlik will mentally destroy taylor.

You are a idiot. You dont become a champion by being stupid. His last two fights, he has looked bad but trust me this fight the Jermain will make some of you so called experts look foolish.

[nervousxtian]

Taylor has never ran in a fight.

I used to like Pavlik, but all his stupid-ass ignorant fans have turned me off of the guy.

[lillarry]

Taylor has never ran in a fight.

I used to like Pavlik, but all his stupid-ass ignorant fans have turned me off of the guy.

Yes. My thoughts exactly. Pavlik seems like a cool guy but his fans on this forums are pathetic. You dont need to tear down another fighter to hype yours:good

[trac209]

What?
When did Taylor ever run?
Taylor will probably take him to school though, but he never ran from nobody, and I don't think he will even think of running from Pavlik.
Actually, Pavlik brings something new to Taylor, he's not holding(hopkins) or running(spinks). I think this will be a great war, somewhat a classic, remember THE FEW good scenes from B-hops vs. Taylor.... that's what it will look like, but for the whole fight. Taylor by late TKO or UD.:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[DoumB]

Taylor does not have good movement??? In spurts..but his jab is not enough to keep pavlik off. And pavlik has the reach and the str8 right hand to throw over Taylors jab if he gets jab happy. Taylor can throw double and triple jabs but Pavlik is a guy that can counter it even though he is slow as all crap on his feet. Thats what I see happening...

yeah ur right, pavlik look sloppy and slow but his punches especialy the right hand over the jab are devastating and very accurate, his left hook is realys trong too, if it was the taylor of 2004, I would have said he would have a strong chance cause in that time he let his hands go and used his jab effectivly, now he turned into a weird fighter

[Executioner]

Taylor has never ran in a fight.

I used to like Pavlik, but all his stupid-ass ignorant fans have turned me off of the guy.

I used to like Taylor, but all his stupid-ass ignorant fans have turned me off of the guy.

[alex-boxer42]

The only reason Jermain was not high-spirited is because he blew his load throwing wild hooks and straights trying to knock ouma out infront of his hometown fans. He was out of gas after round 4. Oumas punching had no effect.

No he wont run from Pavlik, even if hes taking massive shots, he still wont run, thats not the type of fighter Taylor is. He may try to box and circle him, but he wont run.

Well if he was too gassed to kick oumas after four rounds(I had ouma actually winning) then I dont know why you are trying to defend him. cuz that aint champion ship material to me. In my opinion, its ludacris to say that oumas punches had no effect. This just in, getting hit wears you down, you dont have to get rocked!

When Taylor gets hit at somepoint, enough for him to be rocked, for his sake i hope runs, but if what you are saying is true, goodnight paper champ!

[alex-boxer42]

Yes. My thoughts exactly. Pavlik seems like a cool guy but his fans on this forums are pathetic. You dont need to tear down another fighter to hype yours:good

I think its the other way around for most people. I think people are just getting so sick of Taylor so there hopping on Kelly's war wagon. So in response, were not trying to tear him down to hype our own fighter, we just wanna tear him down. LOL!:good

[juancho214]

gtfo ,pavilik wins though

[Marnoff]

When did Taylor ever run from anyone? He's going to be there all night, trying to mix it up. He does this every fight.