Back pain from slipping punches?

[boxingwizard]

This week I started working on head movement and slipping punches, it's a learning process and I'm trying to slip and counter while I shadowbox. But after the first day I did it, my upper right back and lower left back were sore from it. It hasn't prevented me from training but I'm wondering why I'd get back pain from slipping punches, what technique should I be using?

[The Predator]

Had the same problem with some of my fighters. however, nothing strange if it´s new to you. keep on practice it and it will disappear. However if your back hurts a lot just wait a couple of days with that training until your back is better then you start again. I promise you it will get better in no time.
All the best
The Predator

[znaak]

Bend down with your knees. I don't bend my back forward when slipping punches, like many do. I bend with my knees and slip from side to side.

[Johnboy2007]

Bend down with your knees. I don't bend my back forward when slipping punches, like many do. I bend with my knees and slip from side to side.

Yeh its all in the knees i reckon. I do bend my back but hardly anything easier to bend the knees, also your on balance then too

[scrap]

Znaak got it, a lot of Fighters Box with there chin down it gives poor oral stability and puts pressure on the Lumbar Spine, plus it stops the Diaphram from working properly. It also tightens the upper shoulder muscles, sothere response differs from normal. Its all in the Knees and Feet :good

[GNARL]

If technique is correct(keeping correct posture and positioning, which a coach can easily tell you) make sure you have sufficient core strength. Back exercises, shoulder exercises, and abdominal exercises will help. The better the strenght-endurance of these muscle groups, the more relaxed they will be. The more relaxed and stronger, better your movement and less soreness after training.

[Pugsley]

You're probably bending too much at the waist. In that case, you are ducking and weaving. Even still, the back should not be over used in this case unless you're in a non footwork situation.

Slip should come by tilting your shoulders and crouching a bit to one side with minimum movement. Your head should not come forward.

Ps You should really get to a gym where someone can show you the proper way.


This week I started working on head movement and slipping punches, it's a learning process and I'm trying to slip and counter while I shadowbox. But after the first day I did it, my upper right back and lower left back were sore from it. It hasn't prevented me from training but I'm wondering why I'd get back pain from slipping punches, what technique should I be using?

[Robinn]

Thanks for shaeing the information.
Yes its true that proper body posture is important in physical helath of vody specaily suring back pain or problem related to back bone
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[ShamrockNapalm]

Yeah like everybody else is saying bend at the knees more instead of using you back. Also never have your face down or turned to the side when slipping punches. When you look away from your opponent you don't know where the next punch that he throws is going to come from. When you look down not only can you not see your opponent but you have the chance of getting caught with a wicked uppercut directly to the face. Take my advice, I had to learn this the hard way. :!:

[thejokerswild]

Damn this forum is good. Bending at knees when slipping is the proper way. Also take time to develop core stability and leg strength because running, skipping, hitting, front ab work- there's a lot of stress on lower back area while boxing.

[Onepunch]

get stronger.

Also watch how Tyson does it.
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uses the knees and still flexes from the waist.

oh and I've fount that keeping the shoulders up gives more stability to your neck while slipping so you can move faster, I know it sounds wrong but try it.

[Panthers89]

Also aside from the lowerbody being involved, you may be over extending, that puts stress on the back as well

[RDJ]

Bend down with your knees. I don't bend my back forward when slipping punches, like many do. I bend with my knees and slip from side to side.

:deal

[pahapoisu]

Doesn´t the pain come also from having not worked on you back like that before ? Just like when you take a small break from training and when you return, youll be really sore...

[Kevin_Wright]

I know me, sometimes during real vigorous training my body uses muscles I don't usually stress during every day life. That may account for some of the muscle pain...like IE...I can do bicep curls all day and not have muscle soreness, but give me a few rounds of HARDCORE sparring and i cant even flex the next day.

[pahapoisu]

I know me, sometimes during real vigorous training my body uses muscles I don't usually stress during every day life. That may account for some of the muscle pain...like IE...I can do bicep curls all day and not have muscle soreness, but give me a few rounds of HARDCORE sparring and i cant even flex the next day.
Second that.

[rodney]

Bend down with your knees. I don't bend my back forward when slipping punches, like many do. I bend with my knees and slip from side to side.

Thats right --- use your legs.
Bending the head and bending at the waist should be minimal.

[cheech]

this week i suffered lower bag pain after a tuff conditioning workout over the weekend. to avoid straining the back any further I have put the middle core activities on hold until the back feels better which I expect very soon. as well, i am icing my back for most of the night after my daily run.

[Panthers89]

this week i suffered lower bag pain after a tuff conditioning workout over the weekend. to avoid straining the back any further I have put the middle core activities on hold until the back feels better which I expect very soon. as well, i am icing my back for most of the night after my daily run.
if your having pain in your lower back specifically then you need to find workouts specificly for that area, "Good Mornings" are a great workout for that because if your not used to bringing your hips down like i was, this will flex the muscles in your hips.:good

[G_Hoppa]

I wouldn't recommend starting with good mornings if you have lower back pain. They are quite an advanced exercise (usaully done by power lifters). If you do, keep the weight really really light... A much better exercise would obviously be back extensions to start, with progession leading into deadlifts, or even starting with lighter deadlifts.

edit: also, after the initial injury, ice doesn't really help that much. Ice helps to reduce swelling and trauma right after the injury. 24 - 48 hours after it though, i believe you may be better off with heat eg: rice heat bag. This is to increase bloodflow to the area and stimulate repair and growth. Of course, if you keep re-straining it every day then ice would help...

[Panthers89]

I wouldn't recommend starting with good mornings if you have lower back pain. They are quite an advanced exercise (usaully done by power lifters). If you do, keep the weight really really light... A much better exercise would obviously be back extensions to start, with progession leading into deadlifts, or even starting with lighter deadlifts.

edit: also, after the initial injury, ice doesn't really help that much. Ice helps to reduce swelling and trauma right after the injury. 24 - 48 hours after it though, i believe you may be better off with heat eg: rice heat bag. This is to increase bloodflow to the area and stimulate repair and growth. Of course, if you keep re-straining it every day then ice would help...
this exercise is also like a stretch so it can be used for pain because you dont need to use weights to use it effectively. Just using a bar or nothing at all but a ledge to bend over and that will suffice. Using no weights stretches the muscles, using weights builds more muscle in that area.

[rodney]

I wouldn't recommend starting with good mornings if you have lower back pain. They are quite an advanced exercise (usaully done by power lifters). If you do, keep the weight really really light... A much better exercise would obviously be back extensions to start, with progession leading into deadlifts, or even starting with lighter deadlifts.

edit: also, after the initial injury, ice doesn't really help that much. Ice helps to reduce swelling and trauma right after the injury. 24 - 48 hours after it though, i believe you may be better off with heat eg: rice heat bag. This is to increase bloodflow to the area and stimulate repair and growth. Of course, if you keep re-straining it every day then ice would help...

Fuck ya.
Dead liftd, power squats, hyper extensions.
Fuckin great for a back sprain.
Go for it.
Lets see how fuckin stupid you can be.

[Panthers89]

Fuck ya.
Dead liftd, power squats, hyper extensions.
Fuckin great for a back sprain.
Go for it.
Lets see how fuckin stupid you can be.
lmao:yep

[G_Hoppa]

Fuck ya.
Dead liftd, power squats, hyper extensions.
Fuckin great for a back sprain.
Go for it.
Lets see how fuckin stupid you can be.

Look at me, i drop the f bomb and use sarcasm, i must be cool.

you obviously dont do the exercises while STILL INJURED.

the exercises are meant to build strength in the back once recovered.



and to panther: fair point about no wieghts, i assumed u meant with wieghts.

[Panthers89]

Look at me, i drop the f bomb and use sarcasm, i must be cool.

you obviously dont do the exercises while STILL INJURED.

the exercises are meant to build strength in the back once recovered.



and to panther: fair point about no wieghts, i assumed u meant with wieghts.
definetly cool beans:thumbsup

[achillesthegreat]

strengthen your core and use your knees more.

[rodney]

Look at me, i drop the f bomb and use sarcasm, i must be cool.

you obviously dont do the exercises while STILL INJURED.

the exercises are meant to build strength in the back once recovered.



and to panther: fair point about no wieghts, i assumed u meant with wieghts.

The injury.
Back sprain.
The solution --- deadlifts, hyper extensions, squats.
Ya -- right.

[Ylem]

the eccentric motion of dropping down but stopping your self with your legs causes your hamstrings to tighten up with your hamstrings tight it forces your hip cradle back and down forcing your lower back to make up for the lack of movement in your hips resulting in back pain.

do a few hamstring stretches and the lower back should feel fine in a few days 3-5 keep up the stretching and the lower back pain should stop.

the upper back i dont know, might be something as bad as a disjointed rib if you feel the pain in the front and back and when you breath, though if its not that bad its probly just a sore muscle and should be fine with 3 days at most rest. though if it does sound like the disjointed rib id see a chiropractor.

[Onepunch]

its really not that bad. You just need to stretch after and increase your work capacity.. ylem this is the second thread where you've give dubious advice.

[scrap]

One punch, its good advice.

[Onepunch]

No, it is overworded and overthought.

The reason he has back pain is because he's not used to the work. Simple as that.

[Ylem]

No, it is overworded and overthought.

The reason he has back pain is because he's not used to the work. Simple as that.

could have been....but thats your opinion......I prefer to give advice that some one says oh i havnt tried that instead of i already stretch at the start of my routine but thanks....

[Onepunch]

work capacity is something you can't fix over the internet. He needs to train that movement until his body adjusts to it.

It is already common knowledge that well stretched legs, hamstrings in particular, are imperative for top performance.

And the rib advice is just silly.

[Ylem]

work capacity is something you can't fix over the internet. He needs to train that movement until his body adjusts to it.

It is already common knowledge that well stretched legs, hamstrings in particular, are imperative for top performance.

And the rib advice is just silly.

real common knowledge that tight hamstrings causes lower back pain.....

the rib advice i clearly state the conditions for a disjointed rib which can be very painful and detrimental to any one that trains but i also state thats its probly just a sore muscle.