View Full Version : Hatton vs Mayweather location... wtf are they thinking?
As already reported, Ricky has an estimated 13,000 fans ALREADY (fight hasnt even been promoted yet) ready to go.....
there is no possible way they will fit even a small percentage of everyone who wants to go to this, in it.
so can someone enlighten me, because i cant think of a reason, why they dont hold this in a stadium so they can pack and milk this for all its worth?
With a good promotion, regular boxing fans showing up.... casuals showing up with a good promotion, and rickys army.... IMO they could sell close to 30,000 seats....
i just dont understand this
thewoo
09-06-2007, 03:36 PM
They can still milk it for all it's worth by charging more per ticket demand is high and supply is low, I woulnd't be surprised to see tickets in the 3,000 range for this one. Secondly ticket sales are not all of the money, the site fee that the casino will pay will suprass that of any other venue.
They can still milk it for all it's worth by charging more per ticket demand is high and supply is low, I woulnd't be surprised to see tickets in the 3,000 range for this one. Secondly ticket sales are not all of the money, the site fee that the casino will pay will suprass that of any other venue. That explains it a bit more... thank you. :good
I for one would love to see it done in a stadium.... to show the power of this fight so to speak. I love those type of environments and ive only seen it a few times, im talking stadium type fights. Makes the fight seem larger then life imo.
Thread Stealer
09-06-2007, 03:40 PM
They're probably thinking site fees, high-rollers, gamblers, etc...
Fab2333
09-06-2007, 03:48 PM
They're probably thinking site fees, high-rollers, gamblers, etc...
yup, this whole thing is a business. GBP is the top promoting company out there, if they felt that this event would generate more revenue elsewhere believe me they would have done it.
Ticket prices are going to b outrageous for this fight watch. Betting, the buzz the city will gfet Casinoes will b flooded. THis fight is going to b bigger than Delahoya Mayweather IMO. In all honesty I wish they woulda held the fight in a stadium or somethin though so I coulda went. B./c I know holding it in Vegas the tickets are going to b to expensive for my blood.
David UK
09-06-2007, 03:51 PM
Apparently Hatton supporters will be directly alloctated 3900 tickets. Although some will get tickets directly from Golden Boy Promotions, I can assure you that upwards of 7000 ticketless drunken Brits roaming Vegas pissed off that they can't get in is NOT a good idea
They're probably thinking site fees, high-rollers, gamblers, etc...
Exactly, I don't understand the complaining. The high rollers who'll fly in first class and drop a shit load of money in the casino are helping to fund the massive site fee which will dwarf the live gate revenue from a stadium. They're going to generate more money from the casino and the US PPV (and UK broadcast) TV revenues from holding the fight in Vegas rather than in a stadium in the UK or anywhere else. Yeah, it sucks that some of the die hards, who are just ordinary people and are willing to travel a long distance to see Hatton will get shut out, but this is a huge fucking business endeavor. There are priorities. We've got a legit megafight happening here and some people won't stop bitching about trivial bullshit. Hatton is still going to have plenty of supporters present, so Hatton fans need to get over it. These complaints about the venue, which are bereft of the slightest bit of consideration for the financial factors, are really fucking silly.
Apparently Hatton supporters will be directly alloctated 3900 tickets. Although some will get tickets directly from Golden Boy Promotions, I can assure you that upwards of 7000 ticketless drunken Brits roaming Vegas pissed off that they can't get in is NOT a good idea
If your countrymen think it's appropriate to resort to hooliganism just because they can't get into a high profile event then they should stay the fuck home.
SteveO
09-06-2007, 04:03 PM
Wembley, Pontiac Silverdome (80,000 cap. for football, probably close to 100k for boxing), hmmm....ANY huge stadium. Hold it in a location with both casinos AND a big stadium. Detroit has Ford Field that holds 65,000 people, would be somewhat of a home turf for Floyd, and there are casinos.
Beebs
09-06-2007, 04:05 PM
Ford Field would be great, but I still think this would have been better off in Manchester.
Wembley, Pontiac Silverdome (80,000 cap. for football, probably close to 100k for boxing), hmmm....ANY huge stadium. Hold it in a location with both casinos AND a big stadium. Detroit has Ford Field that holds 65,000 people, would be somewhat of a home turf for Floyd, and there are casinos.
Uhh...I wasn't aware that Ford field was located inside of the MGM Grand Detroit. :roll:
David UK
09-06-2007, 04:09 PM
If your countrymen think it's appropriate to resort to hooliganism just because they can't get into a high profile event then they should stay the fuck home.
Of course they should. But they won't. You'll have thousands of Hatton fans trying to get tickets and some will cause trouble if they can't get in. The prospect of which will also attract hardcore football hooligans who are no longer able to indulge in their 'hobby' due to passports being withdraw when England play abroard.Many of these loonies will see this as too good an opportunity to miss. They know that if caught the Yanks will simply deport them
MacManJr.
09-06-2007, 04:10 PM
Apparently Hatton supporters will be directly alloctated 3900 tickets. Although some will get tickets directly from Golden Boy Promotions, I can assure you that upwards of 7000 ticketless drunken Brits roaming Vegas pissed off that they can't get in is NOT a good ideaYou must not know about Vegas Police.
thewoo
09-06-2007, 04:10 PM
Wembley, Pontiac Silverdome (80,000 cap. for football, probably close to 100k for boxing), hmmm....ANY huge stadium. Hold it in a location with both casinos AND a big stadium. Detroit has Ford Field that holds 65,000 people, would be somewhat of a home turf for Floyd, and there are casinos.
Not all casinos are created equal. No casino pays what a vegas casino pays (not in the states at least) especially detroit
China_hand_Joe
09-06-2007, 04:12 PM
Why does Oscar hate boxing so much?
A huge attendance would have made it a magical night and would have given boxing the boost it needs.
Much manyof his billions will Oscar ever invest into boxing, the sport?
Of course they should. But they won't. You'll have thousands of Hatton fans trying to get tickets and some will cause trouble if they can't get in. The prospect of which will also attract hardcore football hooligans who are no longer able to indulge in their 'hobby' due to passports being withdraw when England play abroard.Many of these loonies will see this as too good an opportunity to miss. They know that if caught the Yanks will simply deport them
You think it's fair for people to resort to violence and vandalism just because they don't like their lot in life? Or in this case just because the can't attend a sporting event in person? Really? You sound like a real piece of garbage and I hope anyone who shares your worldview is prevented from getting a travel visa to my country.
Not all casinos are created equal. No casino pays what a vegas casino pays (not in the states at least) especially detroit
Exactly, there's a marked difference between the MGM Grand Detroit and the real thing. I think there would also be a logistical problem because of the distance between the venue and the stadium. Is Ford Field even in Detroit proper?
China_hand_Joe
09-06-2007, 04:17 PM
On average Hatton fans seem a less bastardised brand of alcoholics than their football fan counterparts.
There migth be some trouble. But it is doubtful there would be anything on a massive scale.
peter5
09-06-2007, 04:17 PM
You think it's fair for people to resort to violence and vandalism just because they don't like their lot in life? Or in this case just because the can't attend a sporting event in person? Really? You sound like a real piece of garbage and I hope anyone who shares your worldview is prevented from getting a travel visa to my country.
I presumed He was saying "of course they should" in reply to that point that they should "stay the fuck home" !:hey
dwilson
09-06-2007, 04:20 PM
You must not know about Vegas Police.
:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy
"Let's get in on"!
David UK
09-06-2007, 04:24 PM
You think it's fair for people to resort to violence and vandalism just because they don't like their lot in life? Or in this case just because the can't attend a sporting event in person? Really? You sound like a real piece of garbage and I hope anyone who shares your worldview is prevented from getting a travel visa to my country.
Please take the trouble to read the thread and my response to it.
buddynabuick
09-06-2007, 04:27 PM
I presumed He was saying "of course they should" in reply to that point that they should "stay the fuck home" !:hey
:yep
Please take the trouble to read the thread and my response to it.
Sorry about that. I TOTALLY misread your post and happily concede that you do not in fact support inebriated hooligans.
That's what I get for trying to read the forum after working out for a couple of hours on three hours sleep from the previous night.
Sorry again. :oops:
dwilson
09-06-2007, 04:33 PM
Who's avatar would win ina fight between buddynabuick and david uk?
I can not see there being a huge riot from the Hatton fans not in the building but i would still expect abit of stupidity.
Vantage_West
09-06-2007, 04:39 PM
That explains it a bit more... thank you. :good
I for one would love to see it done in a stadium.... to show the power of this fight so to speak. I love those type of environments and ive only seen it a few times, im talking stadium type fights. Makes the fight seem larger then life imo.definatly. i remember lennox lewis fighting williams in ceasers palace.....back then it was a car park:patsch real big shame should be put on at a stadium a big 40'000 plus seater and i think it could fill out
Thom you do make some good points. I just think it misses a chance to make this thing larger then life. it would have been awsome to be able to go to a jammed 40,000 or more, for it. but at the end of the day your right, buisness is buisness.
Vantage_West
09-06-2007, 04:42 PM
If your countrymen think it's appropriate to resort to hooliganism just because they can't get into a high profile event then they should stay the fuck home.:huh i dont know where this is going is it are fault for them being hooligans... iswear there wa sa hocky team in ohio or somwhere who when they won a national championship they rioted....:good blame Aameirc blame America
Vantage_West
09-06-2007, 04:46 PM
Ford Field would be great, but I still think this would have been better off in Manchester.it doesnt make enough sense for a fight at the M.E.N becuase as big a turn out at the event not enough U.S fans or funds will make as much money
would of been good a rematch at M.E.N would be nice but not the first match
nulty
09-06-2007, 04:59 PM
it doesnt make enough sense for a fight at the M.E.N becuase as big a turn out at the event not enough U.S fans or funds will make as much money
would of been good a rematch at M.E.N would be nice but not the first match
What you think after Floyd loses in front of 17 thousand at the MGM he'd fight in front of 22 thousand at the MEN? Now that is PBF being overrated.
SteveO
09-06-2007, 05:05 PM
Who's avatar would win ina fight between buddynabuick and david uk?
I can not see there being a huge riot from the Hatton fans not in the building but i would still expect abit of stupidity.
Dwilson, I think your avatar wins most avatar fights.
David UK
09-06-2007, 05:06 PM
Sorry about that. I TOTALLY misread your post and happily concede that you do not in fact support inebriated hooligans.
That's what I get for trying to read the forum after working out for a couple of hours on three hours sleep from the previous night.
Sorry again. :oops:
No problem. Apology accepted:good
I hope there's no problems but a fight with this sort of demand should really be held at a far larger venue
Thom you do make some good points. I just think it misses a chance to make this thing larger then life. it would have been awsome to be able to go to a jammed 40,000 or more, for it. but at the end of the day your right, buisness is buisness.
Hey, as a fan myself, I'd love to see the fans (real fans, not the rich and famous people who are going to show up at the fight just because it's a huge social event) given the beneft of the doubt too, but it just isn't going to happen with the vultures we have running the sport.
Edited for grammar.
Why does Oscar hate boxing so much?
A huge attendance would have made it a magical night and would have given boxing the boost it needs.
Much manyof his billions will Oscar ever invest into boxing, the sport?
What if Mayweather stinks the place up? A stadium would be a better place IF the fight is good, but with Mayweather it may end up like the Baldo fight.
David UK
09-07-2007, 12:46 AM
Who's avatar would win ina fight between buddynabuick and david uk?
Frank Sidebottom and Little Frank KO1 King Kong:D
the_what
09-07-2007, 02:23 AM
I hate fights in Las Vegas. The atmosphere is always dead.
nickthegreek
09-07-2007, 02:24 AM
I hate fights in Las Vegas. The atmosphere is always dead.
Not when Hatton is in town buddy :happy
UKITAZ
09-07-2007, 05:20 AM
And people are surprised that boxing is dieing on its feet !! .... Apart from the Hatton allocated fans, its only going to be the rich high rollers who will be able to attend this fight. Its bollox that nobody cares about the average fan anymore.
I dont think Americans quite understand the word 'atmosphere' either.
surreal deal
09-07-2007, 05:45 AM
Apparently Hatton supporters will be directly alloctated 3900 tickets. Although some will get tickets directly from Golden Boy Promotions, I can assure you that upwards of 7000 ticketless drunken Brits roaming Vegas pissed off that they can't get in is NOT a good idea
they'll just have to go and heckle Celine Dion instead.she'll be more aggressive than floyd anyway.:hey
41fever
09-07-2007, 06:10 AM
should go to the UK and make $$$$$$$$$$$
41fever
09-07-2007, 06:11 AM
PBF fanbase isn't stellar in the US...The Hitman has a serious squad behind him
41fever
09-07-2007, 06:12 AM
Hatton and Cotto are the future
Cotto is gonna make memorable fights in his division
Hatton gonna have some thrillers @140
PH|LLA
09-07-2007, 08:35 AM
well lets assume Hatton has 15000 fans coming to see him
then the promoters can expect i would say about 15006 people in attendance.
:deal
:D
buddynabuick
09-07-2007, 09:54 AM
they'll just have to go and heckle Celine Dion instead.she'll be more aggressive than floyd anyway.:hey
:lol:
buddynabuick
09-07-2007, 09:57 AM
Frank Sidebottom and Little Frank KO1 King Kong:D
:lol: but thats 2 against 1. one at a time would be a diff outcome
marting
09-07-2007, 10:15 AM
Vegas seems to call the shots on the big fights in this country and that's a shame because I think there's monumentally better boxing towns.
If ticket sales are as strong as I think they could be they should move the site to the Thomas & Mack Center Arena where the UNLV basketaball games are staged. I just checked their website and they claim they can seat 19,522 for a boxing match.
The St. Pete Times Forum in Tampa can hold 30,000 for a boxing match with great site lines. And I don't think the traveling fans would complain about a little vacation in Florida.
David UK
09-07-2007, 11:45 AM
Or.........it could have been held in london and rather than 10,000+ Hatton fans traveling, the 4 Mayweather fans could have come here. Although we all know Floyd dont like planes.
FOUR? Has that number been swelled by his dysfunctional family members?
marting
09-07-2007, 12:03 PM
You guys totally miss the point when it comes to Floyd. He's ripping a page out of Ali's book. People will pay good money in hopes of seeing Floyd get beat and I'm not even referring to the Hatton fans.
the_what
09-07-2007, 12:10 PM
You guys totally miss the point when it comes to Floyd. He's ripping a page out of Ali's book. People will pay good money in hopes of seeing Floyd get beat and I'm not even referring to the Hatton fans.
Ali fought around the world. Numerous times.
marting
09-07-2007, 12:12 PM
Did he forget to rip the 'traveling abroad' page out?
No apparently he also has the Joe Calzaghe book in his library although I don't think he adheres as rigidly to Joe's philosophy. He travels more than 50 miles for a fight.
marting
09-07-2007, 12:15 PM
Ali fought around the world. Numerous times.
I know that. I was referring to the fact that Ali was fine with anyone paying to see him fight whether they were rooting for him to win or lose.
I was in no way referring to the travel factor. The guy who posts with an accent was trying to make a point by obfuscation.
john b
09-07-2007, 12:48 PM
I was at the castillo fight and I am sure the americans when they see a load of brits having a good time and a sing song oh they must be football hooligans. Yes in some respects they are folllowed by hooligans but most of us make it out to be an holiday and have the crack. Mayweather will see this first hand when he comes to manchester later this month.
Robbi
09-07-2007, 12:57 PM
yup, this whole thing is a business. GBP is the top promoting company out there, if they felt that this event would generate more revenue elsewhere believe me they would have done it.
Ticket prices are going to b outrageous for this fight watch. Betting, the buzz the city will gfet Casinoes will b flooded. THis fight is going to b bigger than Delahoya Mayweather IMO. In all honesty I wish they woulda held the fight in a stadium or somethin though so I coulda went. B./c I know holding it in Vegas the tickets are going to b to expensive for my blood.
This fight aint even close to De La Hoya v Mayweather. The PPV numbers will be lucky to do 500,000. And Hatton aint quite De La Hoya when it comes to superstar status. It will be massive in the UK, but will not be anywhere near as big in the US.
Thread Stealer
09-07-2007, 01:29 PM
This fight aint even close to De La Hoya v Mayweather. The PPV numbers will be lucky to do 500,000. And Hatton aint quite De La Hoya when it comes to superstar status. It will be massive in the UK, but will not be anywhere near as big in the US.
I think it'll do another a fourth (525) of Mayweather-DLH's PPV numbers.
Maybe a third if Mayweather does a good job promoting himself and the fight during his dancing competition.
achillesthegreat
09-07-2007, 03:22 PM
I'm coming Vegas!!!
Robbi
09-07-2007, 08:21 PM
I think it'll do another a fourth (525) of Mayweather-DLH's PPV numbers.
Maybe a third if Mayweather does a good job promoting himself and the fight during his dancing competition.
Hatton against Mayweather will get plenty of press here in the UK, especially England. However, in the States it will be a another big fight. Nowhere near Tyson v Lewis, De La Hoya v Hopkins, De La Hoya v Mayweather.
Its being shown here in the UK on Sky box office, retailing at £14.99. Around $30.
We are getting Marquez v Jaurez and Taylor v Pavlik live and free.
daprofessor
09-07-2007, 08:29 PM
the brits are in for a rude awakening when they see that las vegas police pack heat. lol. they won't be able to run the streets like hooligans after soccer games over here. i get the feeling gbp/dlh is doing this purposely to get back at ricky for not fighting him. it's just a feeling. i could be wrong....but who turns down that kind of money? he could also be looking out for his new fighter(pbf). who knows?
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