James Toney - How Many Fighters Have Beaten "The Man"... [Archive]

Russell

07-04-2009, 05:59 PM

At so many different weight classes?

Stops undefeated, top dog Nunn at MW.

Beats probably the best CW of those years in Jirov at CW.

Beats Peter (One of the top heavyweights in the world at the time) the first time around in many peoples eyes.

Impressive stuff in my opinion.

Tin_Ribs

07-04-2009, 07:22 PM

How long have you got?

brownpimp88

07-04-2009, 07:25 PM

James Toney was awesome, harsh knocking prince charles williams out too, haha he pasted him.

bxrfan

07-04-2009, 07:40 PM

Pacquiao should be obvious here

Sasakul at 112

Ledwaba at 122

Barrera at 126

Marquez at 130

Hatton at 140

Russell

07-04-2009, 07:48 PM

Pacquiao should be obvious here

Sasakul at 112

Ledwaba at 122

Barrera at 126

Marquez at 130

Hatton at 140

Good one, actually.

FM3O

07-06-2009, 04:15 AM

Pacquiao should be obvious here

Sasakul at 112

Ledwaba at 122

Barrera at 126

Marquez at 130

Hatton at 140

Maybe someday "Mayweather at 147" can be added :yep

teeto

07-06-2009, 07:14 AM

Maybe someday "Mayweather at 147" can be added :yep
Let's hope so!

GPater11093

07-06-2009, 01:53 PM

Maybe someday "Mayweather at 147" can be added :yep

Let's hope so!

sorry to crush you but no way that will happen

Flea Man

07-06-2009, 01:55 PM

was Ledwaba 'the man' really? Maybe he was.

mr. magoo

07-06-2009, 02:01 PM

I don't know if I can effectively answer Russell's question, but I think James Toney would have been a very difficult fighter for a lot of great men to beat. Hell, he's 40 years old and fighting well beyond some of his best weights, yet guys still can't seem to get a decisive win over him. In the prime of his life, Toney sometimes fought as many as 5-6 times per year, taking on quality opponents. He somehow made it through 82 pro fights and several weight divisions without ever being stopped by anyone.

IntentionalButt

07-06-2009, 03:16 PM

Maybe someday "Mayweather at 147" can be added :yep

Or Cotto (or Marquez again), depending on how things turn out. :deal

My2Sense

07-06-2009, 06:17 PM

Surprised no one mentioned Arguello, especially given all the focus on him lately. He was the first one that came to my mind.

Beat Olivares at feather.
Beat Escalera at jr. lightweight
Beat Watt at lightweight, then Ganigan for good measure.
Challenged Pryor at 140.

Also, Armstrong:

Beat Arizmendi, Belloise, and Sarron to unify at feather.
Beat Ross at welter.
Beat Ambers at lightweight.

Also challenged Garcia at 160, who was not officially "the man," but was speculated by many to be the better of the two title claimants.

And let's not forget Fitzsimmons:

Dempsey at middle.
Corbett at heavy (also Maher, the title clamaint).
Gardner at light-heavy.

teeto

07-06-2009, 06:19 PM

sorry to crush you but no way that will happen
Nar i know mate, i don't actually mind Floyd, i just think Pacquiao is probably the nicest guy in boxing.

brownpimp88

07-06-2009, 08:11 PM

James Toney could have added Julian Jackson and Nigel Benn to his list of victims too. Not his fault they were scared of him, haha he always called them out. I remember after the barkley fight he was like "terry norris, nigel benn, michael nunn bring yo ass"

Russell

07-07-2009, 02:09 AM

Surprised no one mentioned Arguello, especially given all the focus on him lately. He was the first one that came to my mind.

Beat Olivares at feather.
Beat Escalera at jr. lightweight
Beat Watt at lightweight, then Ganigan for good measure.
Challenged Pryor at 140.

Also, Armstrong:

Beat Arizmendi, Belloise, and Sarron to unify at feather.
Beat Ross at welter.
Beat Ambers at lightweight.

Also challenged Garcia at 160, who was not officially "the man," but was speculated by many to be the better of the two title claimants.

And let's not forget Fitzsimmons:

Dempsey at middle.
Corbett at heavy (also Maher, the title clamaint).
Gardner at light-heavy.

Great stuff Sense.