MMA fanboys' extreme hate for boxing...

[Blacc Jesus]

Why are a lot of these motherfuckers so bitter? When I see MMA discussed on boxing forums, I rarely see anything negative said about it.

Examples:
'Boxing is dead.'
'Boxing isn't real fighting.'
'A mixed martial artist will kill a boxer.'
'Boxers fight with 14 oz. pillows.'
'Fedor can beat Vitali Klitschko because he gets hit with smaller gloves.'
'All they do is hug in boxing.'
'Boxing has no class.'
'MMA is the world's most popular sport and will overtake boxing soon.'
'All boxing is boring. They might as well be ballerinas.'
'Boxers have no intentions of knocking each other out. They don't even hit with full power.'

:oops: Why?

[thewoo]

Same could be said about boxing fans trash takling MMA.

MMA is unskilled.
Any boxer would KO any MMA fighter in less than 1 round.
MMA is just dry humping
MMA fighters don't punch with full force.
MMA is cutting into boxing programming.

[MagnificentMatt]

I usually just bring the subject out that...A lot more boxing fans really box and know what theyre talking about, than MMA fans as to most of the ones i know have never participated in any kind of martial art and therefor dont know what theyre really talking about on either side of the board :-)

And i do not think Boxing fans talk as much as trash about MMA fans as MMA fans do boxing, everytime I talk to an MMA fan i'll say i like boxing and the first thing that comes out of their mouths is how MMA is better, and i dont even get into the arguement cause its useless...and liek i said, i KNOW that half of them have never participated. I like MMA and Boxing, but boxing will always be my favorite sport...

But i never say one or the other is "better" its like saying football is better than basketball...it just doesnt work that way.. But i will tell anyone that i like boxing more cause i've been around it more, and participate in it, and same goes for football.

[Thom]

Because many of the fan boys have been following MMA for 18 months or less, and they buy into the way that Dana White has advertised the UFC. For all of the shit that people gave Mayweather for dissing MMA, I figured someone would have noticed by now that Dana White has been mercilessly trashing boxing as a huge part of his marketing plan for years. However, to be fair, I see just as many idiotic comments from boxing fans on this forum who know absolutely nothing about MMA and trash the sport without cause. So I guess it works both ways.

As an MMA fan, I like how White has elevated the stature of the sport, but this acrimony between boxing and MMA fans is idiotic.

If you're not interested in either sport, fine. Just don't disrespect the athletes or the game.

[Shotgun]

Same could be said about boxing fans trash takling MMA.

MMA is unskilled.
Any boxer would KO any MMA fighter in less than 1 round.
MMA is just dry humping
MMA fighters don't punch with full force.
MMA is cutting into boxing programming.

But many MMA actually sucks, so boxing fans trash talking MMA actually have a valid point :yep

[Blacc Jesus]

Same could be said about boxing fans trash takling MMA.

MMA is unskilled.
Any boxer would KO any MMA fighter in less than 1 round.
MMA is just dry humping
MMA fighters don't punch with full force.
MMA is cutting into boxing programming.

I feel you on that. Hell, I was watching UFC way back in the gap before I was interested in boxing. But still, I've noticed alot of MMA fans seem to have it out for boxing than the other way around.

[Thom]

But many MMA actually sucks, so boxing fans trash talking MMA actually have a valid point :yep
No. They don't. Not when they're proffering inane critcism like: "I don't like seeing homos roll on the ground", "the punches are sloppy and they hump each other like fags", and "I don't like seeing guys on top of each other."

[MagnificentMatt]

No. They don't. Not when they're proffering inane critcism like: "I don't like seeing homos roll on the ground", "the punches are sloppy and they hump each other like fags", and "I don't like seeing guys on top of each other."

Now you all are doing exactly what the post is making fun of...:-(:-(:-(:-(:-(

[Thom]

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[boxingcar]

People who consistently follow both boxing and mma are the only ones you can take seriously...

100% pure mma fans are just as fucking dumb as boxing fans when it comes to compare the two. Both are extremely biased.

[MagnificentMatt]

People who consistently follow both boxing and mma are the only ones you can take seriously...

100% pure mma fans are just as fucking dumb as boxing fans when it comes to compare the two. Both are extremely biased.
For the most part, yes..

I just never even get to the arguement, cause you will never get anywhere with it, they are two different sports...

The only real stupid thing i hear MMA fans say is "Well MMA would win if its a streetfight, cause its real fighting" As to where i usually reply "if someone tryed to tackle someone in a streetfight they'd get either stabbed, or shot, and if not, hit in the head with some object, your not in school anymore"

Than BIASED(not me) boxing fans "MMA throw sloppy punches", Well, there are people like Crazyhorse in MMA, but itsn ot like theyre succesful, and MMA are trained athletes too, im sure most of them know what theyre doing.

[eze]

I like both sports.


They are completely different. And both shouldn't be talked down from either sport.

But something I dislike to hear from MMA. Is MMA is beating boxing in revenue. Sorry just no.

[TanstA]

Hate the player not the game.

[MagnificentMatt]

I like both sports.


They are completely different. And both shouldn't be talked down from either sport.

But something I dislike to hear from MMA. Is MMA is beating boxing in revenue. Sorry just no.
It may be, but if you all caught the Rampage and Zab interview, boxers make hella more money, but i think it might take more from a boxer to climb the ranks for big money than it does an MMA fighter, im not sure.

[thewoo]

But many MMA actually sucks, so boxing fans trash talking MMA actually have a valid point :yep

I can assure you that the MMA guys that trash boxing feel the same way.



I feel you on that. Hell, I was watching UFC way back in the gap before I was interested in boxing. But still, I've noticed alot of MMA fans seem to have it out for boxing than the other way around.

I don't expect the rivalry between the 2 sports to die any time soon. Like thom mentioned, a huge part of Dana White's marketing plan involves trashing boxing. Everytime that a huge PPV like hopkins vs wright or dlh vs mayweather turns out to disapoint fans he uses that as ammunition to promote his own thing.

As far as boxing guys trashing MMA I think that they feel threatened that their sport is losing ground to MMA. Every MMA even does well over 1 million buys and more people can probably name the top MMA guys than the top boxing guys right now.

Personally I don't really like MMA but I think it is retarted for anyone to say that it does not require skill or that any boxer would beat any MMA fighter or anything else stupid like that. I will say that I think that MMA more closly resembles an actual fight wheras boxing is much more controlled. I think that the average MMA fighter would mop the floor with the average boxer under MMA rules and the average boxer would mop the floor with the average MMA fighter in boxing rules.

[Zakman]

But many MMA actually sucks, so boxing fans trash talking MMA actually have a valid point :yep

Excellent observation. Deep down, I think UFC fans know that this crap can't hold a candle to the sweet science, so they have to trash a superior sport with an actual history, which involves excitement and action, not boring rolling around on the ground.:lol:

[eze]

It may be, but if you all caught the Rampage and Zab interview, boxers make hella more money, but i think it might take more from a boxer to climb the ranks for big money than it does an MMA fighter, im not sure.


UFC screws their fighters over on money big time. They don't make nearly enough. Boxers can make the money easier if they become liked, like Cotto, who was making as much if not more then rampage in hid debut HBO fights.


But it's harder for a UFC fighter to come back after a loss. I mean Chuck Liddell was the LHW champ and Dana White is like, IDK when Chuck will get a rematch. Usually champs get an immediate rematch.

[Shotgun]

No. They don't. Not when they're proffering inane critcism like: "I don't like seeing homos roll on the ground", "the punches are sloppy and they hump each other like fags", and "I don't like seeing guys on top of each other."

MMA is basically simulated rough gay sex. Isn't that commonly known and accepted?

[PolishPummler]

Same could be said about boxing fans trash takling MMA.

MMA is unskilled.
Any boxer would KO any MMA fighter in less than 1 round.
MMA is just dry humping
MMA fighters don't punch with full force.
MMA is cutting into boxing programming.

:rofl

[Blacc Jesus]

MMA is basically simulated rough gay sex. Isn't that commonly known and accepted?
:lol: damn

[Thom]

MMA is basically simulated rough gay sex. Isn't that commonly known and accepted?
No and no.

[Vantage_West]

MMA is basically simulated rough gay sex. Isn't that commonly known and accepted?to be fair boxing can have som eguys who hug for a living so you never know.:think

i wouldnt mind mma i love k-1 and pride is decent but ufc just bores me it just seems to me they stay further than arms length away form there opponants and throws a snap kick or a quick jab and stay away so you dont get hit then when they do comeforeward they seem to throw somthing .duno what it is just a fluke punch/elbow/knee som big action. then wham they are on the floor for a while having this "rough gay sex" and then hit each other on the floor. then when they break up they repeat.

in hindsight boxing matches can be just as boring but the ecitement in boxing is that the men are a puzzle both men are trying to unsolve using a jab and fuents and small details like moving on the outside of the opponents foot. all these little knooks and cranny's. where as ufc just seems to be a waiting game not a tactic game of chees but a game of chance and the luckiest ones are usually guys who are bigger or use slipping punches and basci boxing techniques.

also it's a generation of pro wrestling fans have grown into it. tons of pro wreslters have fought in ufc and done damn good just ask bob sapp 300 pounds of useless muscle and win becuase he is...a beast

there was a ufc advert actually saying somthing like no rules no SCRIPTS no mercy !!
it's stealing the fans of wrestling perfectly by rivalries and story line stuff that boxing doesnt go by. wasnt it kevin randalman who was saying one of us is getting knocked the fuck out against crocop and he did so and there was a big hype machine in that both men wanted to kill each other in a street fight.

now when boxers do that...we know they are in it for the money they want as much hype as possible to make as much sales as possible.

[Vantage_West]

Ive nevere understood the hate the two sports have for each other. I dont have anything agaisnt MMA. They are two different sports to begin withi dont mind it it's friendly rivalry we will never convince that mma is dry humpin and that boxing is dead
k-1 on a boxing card or vica versa i wouldnt mind.

we shouldnt make war we should make babies

[Imperial1]

Why is their hate for MMA ?At least with it around it forced boxing's match makers to step up !

[Beebs]

Excellent observation. Deep down, I think UFC fans know that this crap can't hold a candle to the sweet science, so they have to trash a superior sport with an actual history, which involves excitement and action, not boring rolling around on the ground.:lol:

Just reinforces the argument that only stupid cunts like you can't like both sports.

[Beebs]

also it's a generation of pro wrestling fans have grown into it. tons of pro wreslters have fought in ufc and done damn good just ask bob sapp 300 pounds of useless muscle and win becuase he is...a beast


Again, just shows what a stupid cunt you have to be to not like both sports.

Who are these "tons" of pro wrestlers who have fought in the UFC, hell, name one? Bob Sapp has never fought in the UFC, and he has gotten beat by every legit MMA fighter he has ever fought.

[cross_trainer]

Excellent observation. Deep down, I think UFC fans know that this crap can't hold a candle to the sweet science, so they have to trash a superior sport with an actual history, which involves excitement and action, not boring rolling around on the ground.:lol:
The further back in time you go, the more MMA and boxing start to look the same. Both came from common roots--Medieval wrestling--and radiated outward from there. Same family and genus.

[box03]

Boxing isnt dead you would have to a dumbass to think that, the Mayweather/Delahoya fight alone grossed record numbers this year and there are more great fights to come. My feelings on MMA is theres alot of guys fighting there that punch as hard as I did at 13 its almost comical to watch, and the ones that supposely hit hard throw the most looping punches my 80 yearold grandma can see them coming. I do think alot of the fighters have great takedown techniques and submissions I would never see coming, but most of there fighter punching abilities equivalent to a guy who had 10 or so beers in a bar and thinks he could still fight. I refuse to watch ufc until they change there weak boxing ability.

[box03]

Most of the guys with actual "weak" boxing that you mention are guys that excel in other areas, such as the ground game, as their main focus is to get the fight to the ground at all costs.

Tell me this is bad boxing technique.

[Only registered and activated users can see links] You definitely have your exceptions, Im just speaking out against the majority of the ufc fighters. Trust me there other skills and wrestling ability our nothing to fuck with I grant you that, but to be honest I would outwork alot of them in a boxing match at my wieght. Now if it was a ufc fight I would more in likely get my ass handing to me and put into a submission move I never seen coming.

[kirk]

Same could be said about boxing fans trash takling MMA.

MMA is unskilled.
Any boxer would KO any MMA fighter in less than 1 round.
MMA is just dry humping
MMA fighters don't punch with full force.
MMA is cutting into boxing programming.

isnt that all true? :huh







:D

[codeman99998]

UFC screws their fighters over on money big time. They don't make nearly enough. Boxers can make the money easier if they become liked, like Cotto, who was making as much if not more then rampage in hid debut HBO fights.


But it's harder for a UFC fighter to come back after a loss. I mean Chuck Liddell was the LHW champ and Dana White is like, IDK when Chuck will get a rematch. Usually champs get an immediate rematch.

I don't know about that. No one with Randy Coutures record in boxing would ever be considered anything but a totally worthless chump.

In MMA, losing ONE FIGHT doesn't always mean that the fighter is an exposed bum like it does in boxing.

BTW, that is Chuck's second loss to Rampage, so, it does make a bit of sense that he doesn't get an immediate rematch. He was already completely dominated by the guy TWICE.

[codeman99998]

I want to point out just a few things that I don't think all boxing fans understand about the difference between boxing and "boxing" in MMA.

In an MMA fight, all the really skilled ducking and weaving that boxers do is a big mistake. It is begging for a knee or a kick to the head.

In an MMA fight, combinations are rarely more than 4 punches long. There is a very good reason for this. When you are close enough to punch someone, typically, they are close enough to clinch you. Therefore, in an MMA fight, you typically want to get in and out with your combinations, and not stand right in front of the guy throwing 5-8 punches.

In an MMA fight body punches are all but completely worthless.

MMA fights tend to end in KO or submission, with smaller gloves, it is important to do real damage with your punches. Believe it or not, Chuck Lidells form is VERY GOOD for generating lots and lots of power. Also, the smaller gloves make it harder to block punches on the gloves. Winky Wright's defense wouldn't be quite as stellar with 4 oz gloves.

Yeah, just some things to consider. They are different sports.

[J_Roth]

I try not to get into these retarded debates. It's like a nine ball player being pissed about a snooker player being on t.v. I've been a boxing fan since early childhood. I've been a MMA fan since around U.F.C. 1. Both have their good fights and bad. I will watch either on just as much as the other.

[kirk]

Why is their hate for MMA ?At least with it around it forced boxing's match makers to step up !

why i hate mma

1 - Because Dana White... the president of basically the face of mma, trashes it every chance he gets. fuck him, fuck ufc, fuck mma

2 - Because its become 'better then boxing' so to speak to mainstream. Every fag and their family thinks MMA is the ultimate and boxing is weak. Ignorance is bliss i suppose.

3 - Because their magazines ARE replacing the boxing magazines i buy. Its just a general, replacing process. People say we can both exist... then cool... i agree, we can. But when i go and the 4 magazines that are usually there for boxing, and now they only carry 1, and i swear like 4 or 5 mma magazines... its bullshit.

4 - Reading through their magazines... all but id say Real Fighter i think its called which is actually an awsome mag, piss on boxing every chance they get like they have an inferiority complex.

5 - Their fans

[Zakman]

The further back in time you go, the more MMA and boxing start to look the same. Both came from common roots--Medieval wrestling--and radiated outward from there. Same family and genus.

I do understand that - and am fully aware that the earlier you go in the fight game, particularly before the promulgation of the Queensbury rules, the similarities indeed increase

But I was raised on the modern form of boxing, where there was always action. Boxing ADVANCED from its development stages, and this represents an improvement in both technique and entertainment value.

Unlike you perhaps, I don't like wrestling, which is in the main what UFC is. To me, all that rolling around is, as I said, just boring. If people want to get into that stuff, fine - but as a boxing fan, I don't like the way these UFC clowns trash the sweet science, which is a far more refined, advanced, and most of all, entertaining form of combat.

[J_Roth]

I do understand that - and am fully aware that the earlier you go in the fight game, particularly before the promulgation of the Queensbury rules, the similarities indeed increase

But I was raised on the modern form of boxing, where there was always action. Boxing ADVANCED from its development stages, and this represents an improvement in both technique and entertainment value.

Unlike you perhaps, I don't like wrestling, which is in the main what UFC is. To me, all that rolling around is, as I said, just boring. If people want to get into that stuff, fine - but as a boxing fan, I don't like the way these UFC clowns trash the sweet science, which is a far more refined, advanced, and most of all, entertaining form of combat.Excellent points. Personally I really ignore what Dana White or the fighters say about other sports or fighters. No different that me not caring what a James Toney or Mayweather say. I really ignore the trash talk.

[stillafan]

Chimba, typically MMA stances are different than boxers becasuse they can tackle, leg kick, and head kick....if MMA fighters stood just like boxers they would be very vulnerable......

[MSTR]

Same could be said about boxing fans trash takling MMA.

MMA is unskilled.
Any boxer would KO any MMA fighter in less than 1 round.
MMA is just dry humping
MMA fighters don't punch with full force.
MMA is cutting into boxing programming.
Agreed.

[thewoo]

Most of the guys with actual "weak" boxing that you mention are guys that excel in other areas, such as the ground game, as their main focus is to get the fight to the ground at all costs.

Tell me this is bad boxing technique.

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If all MMA fights looked like that I would actually love MMA

[teekay00]

I do not like MMA because i see guys get knocked out with 1 kick or punch, that doesnt mean the other guy is better. In boxing most of the time the better guy wins. And if Fedor gets hit by Klitschko with gardening gloves, he will probably not get up.

[Toopretty]

If all MMA fights looked like that I would actually love MMA

I like that guy..I liked the way he broke the other guys ribs too...He has skill and is graceful in a retarded sport..did you see the other guy that is supposed to be a top fighter swinging at him like a girl..lol:gayfight:gayfight :gayfight "You fucker..take that..and that" :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[Blacc Jesus]

I like that guy..I liked the way he broke the other guys ribs too...He has skill and is graceful in a retarded sport..did you see the other guy that is supposed to be a top fighter swinging at him like a girl..lol:gayfight:gayfight :gayfight "You fucker..take that..and that" :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
:lol:

[Beebs]

I don't like the way these UFC clowns trash the sweet science, which is a far more refined, advanced, and most of all, entertaining form of combat.

While I disagree with you on things ranging from Lennox Lewis' legacy to which economic system is best for the human race, you obviously are not a stupid person, and clearly recognize the difference between rationality and irrationality.

So why then, do you insist on lowering yourself to the level, and actually becoming the same thing with an opposing viewpoint, of the mma "clowns", which I fully admit there are plenty, and they are absolutely retarded? Why are you seemingly unwilling to either just state that its not for you and let it go, or better yet, engage in a meaningful discussion about it? At the very least, just keep the broad stroked insults that you clearly know are not rational to the clowns, rather than becoming one yourself in an actually meaningful discussion?

[Beebs]

thats not great boxing technique, his hands are too low!!!:patsch A. Silva is one of the best but anyone with good striking kills Leben anyday! Its not bad boxing, pretty sharp with the jab but not great posture

While I don't really know if you are being sarcastic or not, I do agree that he clearly didn't use great boxing compared to a comparably ranked and sized boxer, it just goes to show that some MMA fighters are able to utilize other skills than boxing even while standing up, muay thai kickboxing in this case.

Not to mention that along with his great kicks, elbows, and knees both from the clinch and outside of it, Anderson Silva also has to constantly train his ground game, both submission wise, and takedown and takedown defense wise, which he is getting exponentially better at.

So while the boxing obviously will never be as good as a boxer, the standing striking can be great in other ways.

[eze]

I don't know about that. No one with Randy Coutures record in boxing would ever be considered anything but a totally worthless chump.

In MMA, losing ONE FIGHT doesn't always mean that the fighter is an exposed bum like it does in boxing.

BTW, that is Chuck's second loss to Rampage, so, it does make a bit of sense that he doesn't get an immediate rematch. He was already completely dominated by the guy TWICE.

Note I said UFC. Not MMA.

Dana White is like the DK of boxing. Makes big fights pays shitty. The only guy who currently makes money is Randy.

[Beebs]

Note I said UFC. Not MMA.

Dana White is like the DK of boxing. Makes big fights pays shitty. The only guy who currently makes money is Randy.

Who pays better? If nobody else is willing to pay more, than market value has been established. Do I wish all fighters could make a full time living from fighting and the top guys could be Oscar or even "just" Floyd rich? Of course I do, but I realize that fighters are paid for the value they bring, and at this point in MMA the talent pool allows for fighters to be replaced with a similarly skilled guy and demand is such that fighters getting paid that much just isn't realistic for any sustained period yet.

[eze]

Who pays better? If nobody else is willing to pay more, than market value has been established. Do I wish all fighters could make a full time living from fighting and the top guys could be Oscar or even "just" Floyd rich? Of course I do, but I realize that fighters are paid for the value they bring, and at this point in MMA the talent pool allows for fighters to be replaced with a similarly skilled guy and demand is such that fighters getting paid that much just isn't realistic for any sustained period yet.

Pride by far payed better, a shame UFC bought it out.

[Beebs]

Pride by far payed better, a shame UFC bought it out.

Prides payscale, when it actually had to be released publicly in the US, was only higher for the low end guys, the other guys were similar if not a little worse. The only guys who got huge paydays weren't even the best fighters, but guys like Yoshida, Ogawa, and Royce.

Both organizations had contract bonuses that don't have to be released, but to assume either one was bigger than the other is speculation.

[eze]

Prides payscale, when it actually had to be released publicly in the US, was only higher for the low end guys, the other guys were similar if not a little worse. The only guys who got huge paydays weren't even the best fighters, but guys like Yoshida, Ogawa, and Royce.

Both organizations had contract bonuses that don't have to be released, but to assume either one was bigger than the other is speculation.


UFC bonus is always released.


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[cross_trainer]

I do understand that - and am fully aware that the earlier you go in the fight game, particularly before the promulgation of the Queensbury rules, the similarities indeed increase

But I was raised on the modern form of boxing, where there was always action. Boxing ADVANCED from its development stages, and this represents an improvement in both technique and entertainment value.

Unlike you perhaps, I don't like wrestling, which is in the main what UFC is. To me, all that rolling around is, as I said, just boring. If people want to get into that stuff, fine - but as a boxing fan, I don't like the way these UFC clowns trash the sweet science, which is a far more refined, advanced, and most of all, entertaining form of combat. Granted, boxing is more exciting. But it's not the "more advanced" form. All of the techniques in boxing are (theoretically at least) also present in MMA, and both types of athletes devote the same amount of time for training. MMA guys don't throw great punches because they have to expend time learning equally complicated non-boxing stuff (Muay Thai, BJJ). Since you seem to agree that MMA involves skill and that some people DO like wrestling and submission grappling (hence, it's entertaining for them), why the need to trash MMA in general rather than the specific idiots who insult boxing?

[charlievint]

It goes both ways and both "FAN BOYS" repping each side are completely WRONG. Both MMA and Boxing are great fighting sports. Both offer a different and unique platform showcasing great ONE ON ONE Battle between two highly skilled and combative fighters.

I just don't understand why some people feel you can't like both and RESPECT both sports!! That's the biggest thing....for guys to put their life on the line and dedicate so much of themselves to a sport meant to bring entertainment..you as a fan HAVE to show respect....Even if you aren't a fan of either sport, respect for the love, dedication and commitment these professionals show should be.

I like both MMA and Boxing...I like Boxing a bit more just b/c I like striking and the focused skill that you have in ONE area. But I like the diversity of tools and weapons that MMA offers. If you aren't watching BOTH, then you are missing out.

[Into The Mix]

Boxing and MMA are both sports, and people need to realize that, what people should do before they say how MMA is just rolling around on the floor dryhumping eachother or how boxing is just running around with pillows touching eachother is try to learn something about it. If you know nothing about the ground game of MMA then you really have no idea what you are talking about just as if you think using heavier boxing gloves will be better for a boxer long term. I personally am a bigger fan of MMA for multiple reasons, mainly because Dana White desides the fights and I dont have to watch a good fighter fight a crappy fighter all the time, which is what boxing has been recently. In boxing you get no more then 4 good fights a year. All I have to really say is before you talk trash about either sport actually know what you're talking about, research Ju Jitsu and learn what they do on the ground and why it is exciting, fights can be exciting without having to stand up and try to knock eachother out you just have to know what both fighters are trying to do

[Rock0052]

Though I'm a fan of both, I'm curious as to how many MMA fights are fixed...it'd be much easier than throwing a boxing match...:think

[Into The Mix]

I can't find anyone in MMA to get interested in. Everytime they roll out some new big gun he's already got half a dozen losses on his record.

Losses arn't the same in MMA as in boxing, in MMA they start you off fighting guys that are a good match for you that will make an even fight where as in boxing one blemish on your record unless you have 25 wins under your belt makes your career over so you can't expect that flawless MMA records but if you want a few badasses that are coming up you have young guys like Roger Huerta and Sean Sherk or someone with almost a flawless record and is thought to be one of the best fighters in the world Fedor Emelianenko.

[box03]

Losses arn't the same in MMA as in boxing, in MMA they start you off fighting guys that are a good match for you that will make an even fight where as in boxing one blemish on your record unless you have 25 wins under your belt makes your career over so you can't expect that flawless MMA records but if you want a few badasses that are coming up you have young guys like Roger Huerta and Sean Sherk or someone with almost a flawless record and is thought to be one of the best fighters in the world Fedor Emelianenko. Fedor was good in pride I think he was undefeated, I still wish he would use better boxing technique in his fights. He throws alot of looping punches which would be easy for someone with a little boxing knowledge to counter, other than that hes pretty close to a complete fighter.

[Zakman]

So why then, do you insist on lowering yourself to the level, and actually becoming the same thing with an opposing viewpoint, of the mma "clowns", which I fully admit there are plenty, and they are absolutely retarded?

Because it's fun tweaking all the MMA fanboys.:yep

[Blacc Jesus]

Because it's fun tweaking all the MMA fanboys.:yep
You're as cold as ice. :lol:

[Blacc Jesus]

No it wouldn't. In a boxing match yeah, but in an MMA match he throws completely overwhelming punches and drives forward forcing you to defend, which sets up his takedowns. If you have better striking, he will try to overwhelm you in order for you to defend yourself in which case you will be open for a takedown. In a boxing match though, obviously he gets beaten.
His looping shots set up his throws very well. That's why even a precise striker like Cro Cop couldn't really do much to him. He really didn't have time to set up many shots.

[Blacc Jesus]

Exactly. MMA striking and pure striking(boxing, kickboxing) are different because of the different variables involved.
Very true.

[box03]

No it wouldn't. In a boxing match yeah, but in an MMA match he throws completely overwhelming punches and drives forward forcing you to defend, which sets up his takedowns. If you have better striking, he will try to overwhelm you in order for you to defend yourself in which case you will be open for a takedown. In a boxing match though, obviously he gets beaten. I see what your saying, but why is Shane Mosely working with Rampage then?

[box03]

To better his boxing skills likely. Pretty obvious. I never said that was Rampage's style, I said it was Fedor's. And it's always good to have a good base in striking as well. I guess I took it as all MMA guys guys should throw looping punches to open up there take down game.

[fists of fury]

You know what the irony of this all is?
The athletes of both styles probably respect each other (and each other's sport) a lot more than the biased fanboys do.

I've read that quite a few mma practitioners are boxing fans, and many boxers are mma fans.

[.trunzx]

No boxing sucks. Hopkins vs wright and gayweather vs dlh were fucking barn burners.

Just like Rampage vs Henderson and Crocop vs Kongo right? Those were so much better. :patsch

[SKULLSPLITTER]

Hey, everyone. Here's a little background on me before I get into this...

I've been following Boxing since the early '70s, and MMA since UFC 1. I love MMA, but I'm IN love with Boxing.

Ya feel me?

In my experiences, I've noticed it's usually the hardcore, modern day MMA fans that act this way towards Boxing. Their immense love for their new found baby, coupled with their immaturity....well....it naturally makes them insecure towards The Godfather of Combat Sports.

MMA has given them an identity to cling to, and they want that identity to be #1.

They figure that if ENOUGH of them LASH OUT enough against Boxing, that it will seep into the general consciousness, and their objective can be achieved.

It's really just an exercise in futility on their part though....Boxing is here to stay. It will never die.

Look what it's been through already..do you think thousands of young men with tats on their shins can do more damage than one Mike Tyson or one Don King?

Nahhhh.

and I'll quit there. There's room for both, and it's a bullshit competition. It's nice to meet you all....

[Koa]

Just like Rampage vs Henderson and Crocop vs Kongo right? Those were so much better. :patsch

The Hendo vs. Rampage fight was actually quite technical. Would be like watching a technical boxing match that went 12 rounds without a knockdown for me.

I found it an enjoyable fight to watch actually.

Thing is, I highly respect both disciplines. What gets me about boxing is the lack of worthwhile cards. Difficulty for matchups to be made in the first place that could be dynamite, entertaining fights for the ages.

In MMA, there is potential for them to happen every card.

[USMCGixxer6]

hrmm

[younghypnotiq]

Why are a lot of these motherfuckers so bitter? When I see MMA discussed on boxing forums, I rarely see anything negative said about it.

Examples:
'Boxing is dead.'
'Boxing isn't real fighting.'
'A mixed martial artist will kill a boxer.'
'Boxers fight with 14 oz. pillows.'
'Fedor can beat Vitali Klitschko because he gets hit with smaller gloves.'
'All they do is hug in boxing.'
'Boxing has no class.'
'MMA is the world's most popular sport and will overtake boxing soon.'
'All boxing is boring. They might as well be ballerinas.'
'Boxers have no intentions of knocking each other out. They don't even hit with full power.'

:oops: Why?

because the majority are all true
'Boxing is dead.'
'Boxing isn't real fighting.'
'A mixed martial artist will kill a boxer.'
'Boxers fight with 14 oz. pillows.'
'Fedor can beat Vitali Klitschko because he gets hit with smaller gloves.'
'MMA is the world's most popular sport and will overtake boxing soon.'

[younghypnotiq]

Why are a lot of these motherfuckers so bitter? When I see MMA discussed on boxing forums, I rarely see anything negative said about it.

Examples:
'Boxing is dead.'
'Boxing isn't real fighting.'
'A mixed martial artist will kill a boxer.'
'Boxers fight with 14 oz. pillows.'
'Fedor can beat Vitali Klitschko because he gets hit with smaller gloves.'
'All they do is hug in boxing.'
'Boxing has no class.'
'MMA is the world's most popular sport and will overtake boxing soon.'
'All boxing is boring. They might as well be ballerinas.'
'Boxers have no intentions of knocking each other out. They don't even hit with full power.'

:oops: Why?

because the majority are all true
'Boxing is dead.'
'Boxing isn't real fighting.'
'A mixed martial artist will kill a boxer.'
'Boxers fight with 14 oz. pillows.'
'Fedor can beat Vitali Klitschko because he gets hit with smaller gloves.'
'MMA is the world's most popular sport and will overtake boxing soon.'

[USMCGixxer6]

because the majority are all true
'Boxing is dead.'
'Boxing isn't real fighting.'
'A mixed martial artist will kill a boxer.'
'Boxers fight with 14 oz. pillows.'
'Fedor can beat Vitali Klitschko because he gets hit with smaller gloves.'
'MMA is the world's most popular sport and will overtake boxing soon.'


hahaha

Boxing is having one of its best years, but I guess its dying
MMA isnt real fighting, (Boxing is limited to only punches, because thats how they wanted it)
A Boxer would kill an MMA guy in a boxing match. MMA guy would kill a boxer in an MMA match, a "street fight" who cares who would win, way too many variables anyways.
Hrmm Thought they were 8 or 10oz gloves
HAHAHAHA
HHAHAHA again, MMA isnt even close to Boxing on the worldwide scale

[Blacc Jesus]

because the majority are all true
'Boxing is dead.'
'Boxing isn't real fighting.'
'A mixed martial artist will kill a boxer.'
'Boxers fight with 14 oz. pillows.'
'Fedor can beat Vitali Klitschko because he gets hit with smaller gloves.'
'MMA is the world's most popular sport and will overtake boxing soon.'
:rofl:rofl

[boxingcar]

i don't hate boxing. but i hate most boxing fans.
but i guess the same thing can be said about mma fans...most are just as stupid as boxing fans because they don't know anything about the sports they're shitting on.

[Stone Lion]

I don't hate fans I hate people with close mind.
i like boxing, but it whould be also very interesting with mma gloves.
I don't know they are good MMA matches, and bad as in boxing too.
[Only registered and activated users can see links] Edwards vs Masvidal has (i think) good stand up game.

[younghypnotiq]

hahaha

Boxing is having one of its best years, but I guess its dying
MMA isnt real fighting, (Boxing is limited to only punches, because thats how they wanted it)
A Boxer would kill an MMA guy in a boxing match. MMA guy would kill a boxer in an MMA match, a "street fight" who cares who would win, way too many variables anyways.
Hrmm Thought they were 8 or 10oz gloves
HAHAHAHA
HHAHAHA again, MMA isnt even close to Boxing on the worldwide scale

mma is much closer to rea fighting
n mma fghter wud kil a boxer in thestree
they still ight with big pillows
mma will be bigger in a couple years

btw i love boxing

[USMCGixxer6]

mma is much closer to rea fighting
n mma fghter wud kil a boxer in thestree
they still ight with big pillows
mma will be bigger in a couple years

btw i love boxing


wow, learn to spell.

MMA of today is nothing like I have ever seen on the street.
Once again, way to many variables to call that. Also who the fuck cares who would win a streetfight.
Let me hit you with an 8oz or a 10oz glove, then see if you call it a pillow.
MMA appears to be plateauing, so yeah, ok.

[Ramshall1]

I like both, slight preference for boxing as a sport but a big preference for MMA as its organized (the best fight the best much more often).

[ufoalf]

Love both and stfu.

[younghypnotiq]

wow, learn to spell.

MMA of today is nothing like I have ever seen on the street.
Once again, way to many variables to call that. Also who the fuck cares who would win a streetfight.
Let me hit you with an 8oz or a 10oz glove, then see if you call it a pillow.
MMA appears to be plateauing, so yeah, ok.

lol u do that. let me suplex u on concrete.

[USMCGixxer6]

lol u do that. let me suplex u on concrete.

ive seen your scrawny ass, you wouldnt be able to lift me to save your life.

[younghypnotiq]

lmfao. unle u way near 300 i would slam you down moron.

[USMCGixxer6]

lmfao. unle u way near 300 i would slam you down moron.


lol, okie dokie


im sure you are way stronger then you look

[ufoalf]

lol, okie dokie


im sure you are way stronger then you look

Umm, yea? Even Charlie Zelenoff ducked him man... respek his authoritah

[younghypnotiq]

ur a fucking idiot tht was a pic from 4 years ago moron