6'0 209lb Chambers beating 6'7 253lb Dimitrenko proves bigger is not better

[SuzieQ49]

And it proves the past Great Heavyweights at/near the 200lb mark would have had alot of success vs the superheavyweights of today. I was waiting for a overweight heavyweight today to FINALLY gethimself in shape and trim himself down to 205-210lb range...chambers did it and look what happened? he easily beat one of the best superheavyweights in the world.


Agreed?

[rm36]

Bigger isn't always better. It has to be accompanied by a certain type of skill, and the fighter must know how to use his size. Then it can become a powerful asset.

Put Chambers in with one of the Klitschkos and I think size would matter quite a bit.

[janitor]

It certainly suggests that the smaller heavyweights would do better to come in trim and maximise their advantages in terms of speed rather than bulking up in a futile atempt to outmuscle the superheavyweights.

I have argued this before the Chambers Dimitrenko fight and didnt get much suport for the idea.

[rm36]

There have been fighters who bulked up considerably and did seem to match quite well physically with bigger men. Evander's probably the best example.

[TheGreatA]

Bigger isn't always better. It has to be accompanied by a certain type of skill, and the fighter must know how to use his size. Then it can become a powerful asset.

Put Chambers in with one of the Klitschkos and I think size would matter quite a bit.

Size would matter but I think the Klitschko brothers are plain superior to Chambers in most areas. Chambers could be Tony Thompson's size and he still likely wouldn't beat Wladimir.

What this fight truly proved is that the small heavyweights are better off fighting at their optimal weight rather than put on extra weight to become "bigger" and "stronger".

"No more 'Fat Eddie.' I'm 'Fast Eddie' again, and I'm going to stay that way," a smiling Chambers said yesterday afternoon at Philadelphia International Airport upon his return from Germany, where he achieved the most significant victory of his now very significant career. "Who knows? Maybe I can get an underwear commercial out of this."

Slimmed down to 208 1/4 pounds, his lowest weight since he came in at 207 for a 2003 bout with Allen Smith at the Blue Horizon, Chambers outquicked and outhustled Ukrainian giant Alexander "Sascha" Dimitrenko to win a 12-round majority decision on the Fourth of July in Hamburg, Germany.

Chambers is admittedly undersized in this area of heavyweights who look like NBA power forwards, which is why he scaled 223 pounds, one less than his career-high, for his previous bout, a 10-round, majority decision over former WBC heavyweight champion Samuel Peter, who came in at 265.

"I thought the extra weight would make me bigger and stronger, but it just made me slower," Chambers said. "After the Peter fight, I took off 10 pounds in a week and a half. It came off easy. I vowed that I'd never get up over 215 again, even between fights."

Murray said Chambers' rout of Dimitrenko is a blueprint of how he can take down Klitschko.

"I didn't like Eddie at 223 for the Peter fight," Murray said. "He needed to be quicker, more fluid. But against Dimitrenko he showed how to beat a big man.

"I know some people had written Eddie off as a Blue Horizon fighter, a club fighter. They said he was too short, too light, can't punch. A lot of people said some of the same things about Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey. They weren't real big guys, but they could fight. This kid can fight."

"Keeping my weight down will help me stay effective," Chambers said. "I was sharper. I was faster. My movement was much better. I didn't have a jiggly midsection. It makes all the difference. I was able to get on my toes and stay on my toes. I had more energy throughout the fight.

[ripcity]

Size is a tool like any thing else. You have to know how to use it. A boxer who is taller and has a longer reach will almost all ways win if he knows how to take advantage of his advantages.

[rm36]

Size is a tool like any thing else. You have to know how to use it. A boxer who is taller and has a longer reach will almost all ways win if he knows how to take advantage of his advantages.

This isn't really true. Size must be accompanied by other skills to be effective.

[janitor]

Put Chambers in with one of the Klitschkos and I think size would matter quite a bit.

It is probably going to happen before too long.

[ChrisPontius]

And it proves the past Great Heavyweights at/near the 200lb mark would have had alot of success vs the superheavyweights of today. I was waiting for a overweight heavyweight today to FINALLY gethimself in shape and trim himself down to 205-210lb range...chambers did it and look what happened? he easily beat one of the best superheavyweights in the world.


Agreed?

Dimitrenko never beat anyone of note, but it was a very nice victory for Chambers and i was rooting for him. He'll go for Wlad since he's the WBO mandatory, but an aging Vitali Klitschko would be a much better (more winable) fight for him.


As for the thread title. :lol:

[SuzieQ49]

i think chambers matches up great vs vitali based on speed and youthness. Wlad is a bad matchup for him. The fact Wlad is taking on Potvekin and Chambers speaks highly of his legacy.

[ChrisPontius]

Chambers can be the man to upset an aging Vitali Klitschko, plus it would set up a MEGAFIGHT with brother Wlad for all the official marbles. I like how Chambers is old school in regularly fighting top opposition (Peter, Povetkin and Dimitrenko, all top10, within a little more than a year), but they would've been better off taking a route to a WBC or WBA title shot. Wlad would be suicide.

The left hook with which he floored Dimitrenko was a beauty and the big Ukranian never saw it coming. He has a very nice uppercut, too. A very complete boxer with a solid beard to boot.

[ripcity]

This isn't really true. Size must be accompanied by other skills to be effective.

Stanama is difently needed as a boxer with hight/reach advantages Should be on his toes. Jabing and moving keeping himself out of his opoents punching range while being able to hit his opoenent. Also displine to fight this way is very important as well. This is all part of knowing how to take advantage of a hight/reach advantage.

[Mendoza]

Dimitrenko never beat anyone of note, but it was a very nice victory for Chambers and i was rooting for him. He'll go for Wlad since he's the WBO mandatory, but an aging Vitali Klitschko would be a much better (more winable) fight for him.

As for the thread title. :lol:

Agreed. Dimtirenko will never beat a top ten fighter. Dimtrenko proved to be too timid, and lacking of power...even vs ones on Chambers power level. I thought Dimtirenko toughed up a bit, but as this fights proves he did not.

The title of this thread is a joke. Chambers beating Dimtirenko means little. If Chambers can beat either Kiltschko, that would mean something.

[Rock0052]

It certainly suggests that the smaller heavyweights would do better to come in trim and maximise their advantages in terms of speed rather than bulking up in a futile atempt to outmuscle the superheavyweights.

I have to agree with you wholeheartedly on this one. It drives me crazy seeing a fighter willingly give up his strengths like that in a futile effort to improve an area that will never get to the level he'd need to win that kind of fight in the first place.

Hopefully the Chambers fight will send a message to guys like Arreola to get in the best shape possible, and show that fighters should pay attention to what their personal best weight is instead of shooting for a weight that undermines their best assets. They're slowing themselves down and doing half of the bigger fighter's work for them.

[Rock0052]

Bigger isn't always better. It has to be accompanied by a certain type of skill, and the fighter must know how to use his size. Then it can become a powerful asset.

Put Chambers in with one of the Klitschkos and I think size would matter quite a bit.

Soid post :thumbsup

[Muchmoore]

Chambers skills are on an entire other level than Dimitrenko. Size itself isn't everything, but when you have equal skills the bigger man has the advantage.

The Bowe-Holy trilogy tells us more than what Fat Eddie-Dimitrenko does :lol:

[Mendoza]

Chambers skills are on an entire other level than Dimitrenko. Size itself isn't everything, but when you have equal skills the bigger man has the advantage.

The Bowe-Holy trilogy tells us more than what Fat Eddie-Dimitrenko does :lol:

Bingo.

[Bummy Davis]

I think a speedy Chambers if he stays fit could be a problem for Vitali. Chambers has speed and showed power in the Sasha fight...he must be fit and fight the right fight but he has a chance if he stays light and in condition.

[Russell]

Yes it proves absolutely everything conclusively of god lets latch onto it like a barnacle prrrrraise small heavyweights.

[Mendoza]

I think a speedy Chambers if he stays fit could be a problem for Vitali. Chambers has speed and showed power in the Sasha fight...he must be fit and fight the right fight but he has a chance if he stays light and in condition.

Vitlai has never had a problem with fast fighters. Hide had fast hands. Sanders had fast hands. Johnson had fast hands. Donald had fast hands. Byrd had fast hands. Gomez was pretty quick too.

My point is Chambers does not have the best hand speed on this list and collectively these fast handed fighters won a combined six rounds in six fights. Or if you prefer each man won on average 1 round in the fight.

Vitali doesn't fight like Wlad. He'll trade or counter, and is far more agressive. Besdies, most of these speed guys were much longer and taller than Chambers is.

Dimitrenko is not a super dominant boxer on the cards. Never has been, probably never will be. The best two boxers Dimitrenko fought prior to Chambers were Bean and Krasniqui. Dimitrenko was close to even with Bean, and likely behind vs an old Krasniqui. I don't want to rain on Chambers parade but some folks here are going overboard.

[Seamus]

It proves that Dimitrenko was a sportsman and not a fighter, which is the same opinion I had of him 2 years ago.

Let's see Fast Eddie against Boytsov or against Povetikin (oh, we saw him get drubbed against the latter)...

[Bummy Davis]

Vitlai has never had a problem with fast fighters. Hide had fast hands. Sanders had fast hands. Johnson had fast hands. Donald had fast hands. Byrd had fast hands. Gomez was pretty quick too.

My point is Chambers does not have the best hand speed on this list and collectively these fast handed fighters won a combined six rounds in six fights. Or if you prefer each man won on average 1 round in the fight.

Vitali doesn't fight like Wlad. He'll trade or counter, and is far more agressive. Besdies, most of these speed guys were much longer and taller than Chambers is.

Dimitrenko is not a super dominant boxer on the cards. Never has been, probably never will be. The best two boxers Dimitrenko fought prior to Chambers were Bean and Krasniqui. Dimitrenko was close to even with Bean, and likely behind vs an old Krasniqui. I don't want to rain on Chambers parade but some folks here are going overboard.


I am not sold on Chambers but I was impressed by the way he got himself in condition for this fight and lost 15 lbs, it improved on his stamina and power but more important the ability to land and move out. I was impressed with the way he easily caught Povetkin but fizzled to Povetkin's work rate. In the 2nd rd Chambers landed several right hands, had he been in better shape at the time who knows. I think Vitali beats him but I am very interested to see a fit Chambers vs one of the Klitschko's...should make a good fight and this kid has been fighting anyone he can.

[mcvey]

And it proves the past Great Heavyweights at/near the 200lb mark would have had alot of success vs the superheavyweights of today. I was waiting for a overweight heavyweight today to FINALLY gethimself in shape and trim himself down to 205-210lb range...chambers did it and look what happened? he easily beat one of the best superheavyweights in the world.


Agreed?

What it proves to me is ,half these heavyweights coming in at 230 plus lbs could lose 25+ lbs of fat .

[DamonD]

I'm pleased to hear that Chambers has recognised the importance of being in top shape, even if that does mean you're giving up a weight advantage. Sometimes too many heavyweights seem to want a certain mark as they feel that'll be right for them, or if not fat then they pump themselves up with extra unnecessary muscle to do the same.

Chambers had the sense to turn up in better shape and has now seen the benefits too. It would sadly be too much to expect others to do the same but it's good for him, he's just the kind of fighter that benefits from better speed and stamina after all.

[Curtis Lowe]

And it proves the past Great Heavyweights at/near the 200lb mark would have had alot of success vs the superheavyweights of today. I was waiting for a overweight heavyweight today to FINALLY gethimself in shape and trim himself down to 205-210lb range...chambers did it and look what happened? he easily beat one of the best superheavyweights in the world.


Agreed?

Here is possibly another, possibly better example, Spinks over Cooney. Of course Cooney was on the down side of his short career and his head wasn't screwed on right for that fight, still with the size differential, Spinks really beat the shit out of him.

[janitor]

Let's see Fast Eddie against Boytsov or against Povetikin (oh, we saw him get drubbed against the latter)...

What sort of weight do you think Povetkin could come in at if he took after Fast Eddies example.

[diamondDave]

And it proves the past Great Heavyweights at/near the 200lb mark would have had alot of success vs the superheavyweights of today. I was waiting for a overweight heavyweight today to FINALLY gethimself in shape and trim himself down to 205-210lb range...chambers did it and look what happened? he easily beat one of the best superheavyweights in the world.


Agreed?


I have to respectfully disagree. Dimitrenko is not a top heavyweight, the game has progressed and fighters the size of Jerry Quarry and Eddie Chambers are still not big enough to take out the elite of the heavyweight division today.

Look at Tye Fields, he was beat by an average sized heavyweight in Fields. It just doesn't mean much unless we are talking about Champions they are beating.

[mr. magoo]

And it proves the past Great Heavyweights at/near the 200lb mark would have had alot of success vs the superheavyweights of today. I was waiting for a overweight heavyweight today to FINALLY gethimself in shape and trim himself down to 205-210lb range...chambers did it and look what happened? he easily beat one of the best superheavyweights in the world.


Agreed?


No, I don't necessarily agree. You can't make the blanket statement that just because ONE 209 Lb man had success against ONE particular man of above average size, that it " proves great heavys of the past " would have had success in general against today's heavys.

You simply can't use singular isolated incidents to make broad generalizations.

[mr. magoo]

Chambers skills are on an entire other level than Dimitrenko. Size itself isn't everything, but when you have equal skills the bigger man has the advantage.

The Bowe-Holy trilogy tells us more than what Fat Eddie-Dimitrenko does :lol:


Solid post.

[PolishPummler]

Garbage thread.

Dimitrenko was a nobody.

[mcvey]

Garbage thread.

Dimitrenko was a nobody.

PS There's a P in redemption

[mr. magoo]

Garbage thread.

Dimitrenko was a nobody.


It was still a very good win, and one that Chambers deserves credit for. That said however, I still don't think it supports the broad generalization that size means nothing.

[PolishPummler]

PS There's a P in redemption


There's also a "e" in Pummler.

meh who cares...although i didnt notice my typo on redemption.:hey

[PolishPummler]

It was still a very good win, and one that Chambers deserves credit for. That said however, I still don't think it supports the broad generalization that size means nothing.

SuzieQ once claimed she WILL NEVER EVER give any Euro credit no matter what they do....something tells me that line of thinking is what caused HER to start this thread....

She is more comfy when the champs have last names like..Johnson,Smith,Jones,,etc..

[TheGreatA]

SuzieQ once claimed she WILL NEVER EVER give any Euro credit no matter what they do....something tells me that line of thinking is what caused HER to start this thread....

She is more comfy when the champs have last names like..Johnson,Smith,Jones,,etc..

I guess you haven't seen SuzieQ post about Wladimir.

[PolishPummler]

I guess you haven't seen SuzieQ post about Wladimir.

Did she finally give and shit up just like Suge White...tired of ending up dissapointed.

[mr. magoo]

Did she finally give and shit up just like Suge White...tired of ending up dissapointed.

You do realize that SuzieQ is a man, and hopfully you also know where his screen name derived from?

Behold :


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[Seamus]

Garbage thread.

Dimitrenko was a nobody.

Some people are desperate to cheer something.

[Bummy Davis]

What it proves to me is ,half these heavyweights coming in at 230 plus lbs could lose 25+ lbs of fat .


If a fighter is a smaller Heavyweight he should not try to blow up or not train to make weight...everyone has a perfect weight, where they are completly fit....Chambers was lacking sharpness and stamina in the past after a couple of rds...He dropped 15 and showed late power. I think that Rahman, Tua,Johnson, Peter, Areola, Briggs and are all 30-40 lbs overweight..James Toney should weigh 205-210...when you can look at a fighter and see he is fat..somethings wrong...Heavyweights should make weight also, not officially but they should
consciously
watch there weight....The Klitschko's are Big men and they come in at 240-250 and they are heavily muscled but at 6"7 they can carry it.

[SteveO]

The fanboy in me forces me to say...

"If only James Toney could drop some weight..."

:patsch

[PH|LLA]

lets be real here dimitrenko is not very strong for a 260lber and is slow handed and very tentative. This result was not a surprise

Chambers beating Dimitrenko says nothing about how any fight involving Lewis, Vitali, Wlad, Bowe, etc would have panned out

[rm36]

Chambers skills are on an entire other level than Dimitrenko. Size itself isn't everything, but when you have equal skills the bigger man has the advantage.

The Bowe-Holy trilogy tells us more than what Fat Eddie-Dimitrenko does :lol:

What does it mean to have "equal skills ?"

[AnthonyJ74]

If a fighter is a smaller Heavyweight he should not try to blow up or not train to make weight...everyone has a perfect weight, where they are completly fit....Chambers was lacking sharpness and stamina in the past after a couple of rds...He dropped 15 and showed late power. I think that Rahman, Tua,Johnson, Peter, Areola, Briggs and are all 30-40 lbs overweight..James Toney should weigh 205-210...when you can look at a fighter and see he is fat..somethings wrong...Heavyweights should make weight also, not officially but they should
consciously
watch there weight....The Klitschko's are Big men and they come in at 240-250 and they are heavily muscled but at 6"7 they can carry it.

Toney was fat at 190. His in-shape weight is probably closer to 165-175 tops.....

[Flea Man]

well, seeing as Dimitrienko was complete untested, this means jack.

I mean, did anyone think someone like Walcott would struggle with say, Tye Fields? No, just the 'Elite's'.

[SuzieQ49]

polishpummler go have another vodka tonic. you make me laugh with your silliness

[Flea Man]

polishpummler go have another vodka tonic. you make me laugh with your silliness

:lol::good

[Muchmoore]

What does it mean to have "equal skills ?"

It means what I said. When a big guy with a good jab, defense etc. fights a little guy with a good jab, defense etc. the big guy will likely win.

Watch Bowe-Holyfield for a good example of what I mean. Holyfield was probably the more skilled fighter and only was at a real disadvantage in terms of size, and that's all it needed.

I'm not saying an average super heavyweight beats anyone under 220, I'm saying a great fighter that weighs 230 or more has a big advantage against someone that's light. Guys like Lewis, Bowe, the Klitschkos are all huge and unlike giants of the past who were fat and/or didn't have much skill, these guys are good/great boxers.

[Mendoza]

It means what I said. When a big guy with a good jab, defense etc. fights a little guy with a good jab, defense etc. the big guy will likely win.

Watch Bowe-Holyfield for a good example of what I mean. Holyfield was probably the more skilled fighter and only was at a real disadvantage in terms of size, and that's all it needed.

I'm not saying an average super heavyweight beats anyone under 220, I'm saying a great fighter that weighs 230 or more has a big advantage against someone that's light. Guys like Lewis, Bowe, the Klitschkos are all huge and unlike giants of the past who were fat and/or didn't have much skill, these guys are good/great boxers.

Spot on. But the truth is threatens how gerat smaller fighters would do vs these new world heavyweights....which is why people jump on Chambers beating a a fighter who will never beat anyone in the top ten.

[Bummy Davis]

Spot on. But the truth is threatens how gerat smaller fighters would do vs these new world heavyweights....which is why people jump on Chambers beating a a fighter who will never beat anyone in the top ten.


I dont know he beat Sam Peter who alot of posters were raving about, he also beat Brock and Dimentrenko KO'd Krasnicki, Chambers was also off to a good start vs povetkin but tired quickly because of the extra weight. What I got out of the Sasha fight was he dropped 15lbs from the Peter fight and was faster, had much more stamina and dropped Sasha 2 times and almost stopped him late. I would be interested seeing this new version in a rematch with Povetken or to match anyone of the Klitschko's. Chambers has beaten top 10 contenders, something I can not say about Haye who has not fought a heavyweight outside the top 30. What I do like is Chambers getting in shape and not looking to match the big guys with weight but to use his fitness, speed and renewed stamina to match the big guys. Sasha will be back....Chambers is now # 1 CONTENDER...CAN HE TAKE IT TO THE TITLE AND WIN...ITS A TALL ORDER BUT AT LEAST HE got to the top...

[Seamus]

I dont know he beat Sam Peter who alot of posters were raving about, he also beat Brock and Dimentrenko KO'd Krasnicki, Chambers was also off to a good start vs povetkin but tired quickly because of the extra weight. What I got out of the Sasha fight was he dropped 15lbs from the Peter fight and was faster, had much more stamina and dropped Sasha 2 times and almost stopped him late. I would be interested seeing this new version in a rematch with Povetken or to match anyone of the Klitschko's. Chambers has beaten top 10 contenders, something I can not say about Haye who has not fought a heavyweight outside the top 30. What I do like is Chambers getting in shape and not looking to match the big guys with weight but to use his fitness, speed and renewed stamina to match the big guys. Sasha will be back....Chambers is now # 1 CONTENDER...CAN HE TAKE IT TO THE TITLE AND WIN...ITS A TALL ORDER BUT AT LEAST HE got to the top...

I don't see how he ranks as a contender above Povetkin, who beat him handily in my opinion.

[Bummy Davis]

I don't see how he ranks as a contender above Povetkin, who beat him handily in my opinion.

Povetkin has had 2 fights since there fight vs top 50 heavys Eddie has beaten Peter,and Dementrenko top 10 and Rafael Butler, Castillo. and Sisse..Povetkin has not looked good against unproven opponents. I like Povetkin but he needs work. I think he has some good strngths but seems content with a title shot and not a win.

[Bummy Davis]

He was 11 lbs heavier for Povetkin and he fizzled mid fight and late but he did stagger Alex

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[Bummy Davis]

Dimentrenko will be back...needs to learn...he went to school.....Chambers IMO beats Areola I donr know about Vlad or Vitali but he is best American...What kind of face is Povetkins promoter making

[Seamus]

Povetkin has had 2 fights since there fight vs top 50 heavys Eddie has beaten Peter,and Dementrenko top 10 and Rafael Butler, Castillo. and Sisse..Povetkin has not looked good against unproven opponents. I like Povetkin but he needs work. I think he has some good strngths but seems content with a title shot and not a win.

Head to head the fight wasn't even that close. I had Alex winning going away. Dimetrenko is garbage. I, and many others, have been saying so for a couple years. Is Sasha your new crusade so that Chamber's worth can be inflated? I give Eddie credit. He didn't fade away or eat himself out of the division. He bounced back, took some good fights and won them. But he isn't that Western Savior for which the Yanks are so desperate. He just isn't that good.

[Bummy Davis]

Head to head the fight wasn't even that close. I had Alex winning going away. Dimetrenko is garbage. I, and many others, have been saying so for a couple years. Is Sasha your new crusade so that Chamber's worth can be inflated? I give Eddie credit. He didn't fade away or eat himself out of the division. He bounced back, took some good fights and won them. But he isn't that Western Savior for which the Yanks are so desperate. He just isn't that good.


My Crusade...I do not like any of the U.S. fighters right now but Chambers showed dedication...I am not looking for a western savior I just enjoy a fight between fighters that train. I dont think Sasha is bad, just did not know how to deal with Chambers. As far as Povetkin he got shook early against Chambers ( I was rooting for Alex P.) Alex work rate won the fight for him and Chambers faded but the judges did not think it was one-sided and I did not either. I dont like it when people talk out of there ass..you are one of them...My crusade

[Seamus]

but the judges did not think it was one-sided

119-109, 116-112, 117-111

The fight wasn't that close and the judges did not think it to be close.

talk out your own ass.

[Bummy Davis]

119--109 was a joke... 116-112- 117-111 not so bad in GERMANY for Chambers....I thought Alex won clear but Chambers landed some clean shots early ....Where you said I was looking for an American savior thats where you were talking out of your ass. I root for good fighter not by location or country. This is what I said

I dont like it when people talk out of there ass..you are one of them...My crusade

[Mendoza]

119-109, 116-112, 117-111

The fight wasn't that close and the judges did not think it to be close.

talk out your own ass.

I thought the best score was 116-112 for Povetkin. Chambers started fast, but he could not ward off a more aggressive and better conditioned Povetkin.

Povektin's team blamed his mediocre performance on illness during his training camp. Having said that, Chambers is not a fluke. I'd say he's a solid top ten guy. We have seen Chambers vs Povetkin, Peter, and Dimitrenko.

I still have not seen Chambers vs Dimitrenko, but my hunch is Dimitrenko was too soft, and gave Chambers confidence to tee off on him.

Chambers seems to be more defensive vs Povetkin, and dared not to risk much vs Peter. What does this mean? I think Chambers will be gun shy vs fighters who can either punch hard or show sustained aggression.

[TheGreatA]

Povetkin-Chambers punch statistics:

Total Punches Landed / Thrown

Round 1

Povetkin 13/57 23%
Chambers 18/39 46%

Round 2

Povetkin 11/65 17%
Chambers 15/50 30%

Round 3

Povetkin 15/80 19%
Chambers 27/50 54 %

Round 4

Povetkin 15/77 19%
Chambers 22/32 69 %

Round 5

Povetkin 8/69 12 %
Chambers 23/41 56 %

Round 6

Povetkin 12/83 14%
Chambers 17/31 55%

Round 7

Povetkin 23/89 26%
Chambers 13/23 57%

Round 8

Povetkin 22/94 23 %
Chambers 21/35 60 %

Round 9

Povetkin 17/75 23 %
Chambers 18/41 44 %

Round 10

Povetkin 19/71 27 %
Chambers 12/25 48%

Round 11

Povetkin 27/89 30 %
Chambers 5/15 33%

Round 12

Povetkin 19/80 24 %
Chambers 6/16 38%



Final PunchStat Report

Punches Landed / Thrown

Povetkin

Total Punches

201 / 929 22%

Jabs

57 / 416 14%

Power Punches

144 / 513 28%

Chambers

Total Punches

197 / 398 49%

Jabs

61 / 174 35%

Power Punches

136 / 224 61%

[Mendoza]

Is there a free punch stats report on line? I must say Povetkin was very active. 89 punches in round 11, and 80 punches in round 12 are very impressive.

[TheGreatA]

Is there a free punch stats report on line? I must say Povetkin was very active. 89 punches in round 11, and 80 punches in round 12 are very impressive.

I found it with google.

I've always been impressed with Povetkin's workrate. It wasn't an impressive performance otherwise for either really, Povetkin looked a little sloppy and Chambers ran out of stamina. Against Dimitrenko Chambers actually came on late and had Dimitrenko down in the 11th round.

[Bummy Davis]

Thats what I said earlier. Povetkin's work rate was impressive and Chambers was foolishly 15 lbs heavier. I am not sure if he could compete with Alex in the stamina department but better condition and less fat should help his stamina (Chambers) I still think Alex beats him but Chambers has been more active and against the better opposition and has been the one to improve. I have to take my hat off to him. He is trying to improve himself.

[Bummy Davis]

I found it with google.

I've always been impressed with Povetkin's workrate. It wasn't an impressive performance otherwise for either really, Povetkin looked a little sloppy and Chambers ran out of stamina. Against Dimitrenko Chambers actually came on late and had Dimitrenko down in the 11th round.

True and Chamber usually fizzles or punches sporatically...He showed an improvement in stamina with the late bursts

[Seamus]

I think Chambers going into a shell had something to do with a real fighter going at a real workrate rather than that stiff Dimitrenko pawing a few robotic jabs and telegraphed right hands.

And for all you Yank crusaders, I still believe Arerola has a great shot of knocking Fast Eddie through the canvas. That's where I would put my money.

[ChrisPontius]

If they [Arreola and Chambers] square off, i'd put my money on Chambers. He is very strong defensively and has a solid beard. I think he'll survive the first 4-5 rounds, landing some stuff of his own, to win the later rounds and take a decision from a badly tired big Mexican fella. That is, if Arreola remains disgustingly overweight.

[DamonD]

It would be great, but probably a pipe dream, if Arreola saw that and said "Hey, I could stand to drop about twenty pounds myself".

[Bummy Davis]

Areola can afford to lose mucho LBS, he is another cruiserweight amatuer champ that enjoys the no weight restrictions of the Heavy division. I dont think he will fight Chambers...he is a little more carefull about who he fights than Chambers and I believe is promoted by the same promoter Goosen...Areola has power and is a modern day "Wild Bull of the Pampas" but too fat, he proberly is in good condition for a fat guy and is adding muscle too his fat but that is a mistake. This guy fought at crusier, there is no reason for him to weigh 230-260...I would pick Chambers at 208lbs to pot shot and out mamuver him at this point

[dmille]

why is this in the classic forum?

[Bummy Davis]

why is this in the classic forum?

Because the issue is heavyweight (non-official weight limits) Its an issue with how Heavyweights trained years ago for weight even though there was no restriction. The trainers felt even a heavy should have a limit to how much each individual peaked with out compromising speed , stamina and natural ability and the issue was the 15 rd limit as opposed to 12

[Beatle]

Only children think that bigger means better. Look at Dempsey, Tunney, Louis, Charles, Marciano, Ali (pre-ban), Tyson, Holyfield. All the best HWs were small.

Ali weighed 206 lbs when he KO'd Sonny Liston in the first round, and less than 200 lbs in most of his previous fights. Joe Louis weighed 197 when he won the HW title. Tyson weighed 215 when he KO'd Larry Holmes. And these are the heaviest of the guys I mentioned.

Lennox Lewis, Vitali Klitschko, and all the other recent HWs are too slow to even hit the old-timers listed above. They would get brutalized just like Jess Willard did against Jack Dempsey.

[196osh]

Lennox Lewis, Vitali Klitschko, and all the other recent HWs are too slow to even hit the old-timers listed above. They would get brutalized just like Jess Willard did against Jack Dempsey.


Ridiculous!