who was the greatest fighter from spain?

[good right hand]

i read an article that it was the recent fighter javier castello who had many achievements especially at a advance age. but there are also other good fighters from spain such as pedro corrasco and miguel valasquez.

[red cobra]

Paolino Uzcudun? Maybe as a heavy he rates aove Jose Urtain, but I think Pedro Carrasco is actually a better fighter p4p. I know I'm omitting someone greater, Velasquez' main claim to fame was tagging Buchanan with his first loss, but I'm sure that even though they never met again, that Ken would have easily avenged that loss.

[red cobra]

Maybe it's Castellejo...and that's pretty sad, actually if he is.

[janitor]

Paolino Uzcudun?

The Basque woodchopper has wins over:

Harry Wills (shot)

Jack Renault

Max Baer (maybe a bit green)

And a draw against Max Schmeling (gift)

Despite the circumstances of these wins this is an impresive record.

[TBooze]

If you count him as Spanish: Jose Legra?

[teeto]

If you count him as Spanish: Jose Legra?
You know what i thought he was Columbian, but just boxrec'd (haha, had to!), and saw Cuba. Never knew that. I do know about the fighter though. What's the deal with the potential Spanish origin? If you don't mind educating me TB.

[red cobra]

There you go...TBooze called the winner...Jose Legra.

[Seamus]

Maybe it's Castellejo...and that's pretty sad, actually if he is.

No one gives a damn about the sport in Spain. Football, football, football, bullfighting, motorsports, a little tennis and a little basketball. That's about it.

And given their food, their wine and their broads, I ain't feeling sorry for Spain any time soon.

[red cobra]

No one gives a damn about the sport in Spain. Football, football, football, bullfighting, motorsports, a little tennis and a little basketball. That's about it.

And given their food, their wine and their broads, I ain't feeling sorry for Spain any time soon.
You just gave 3 good reasons not to pity them at all!!:thumbsup

[TBooze]

You know what i thought he was Columbian, but just boxrec'd (haha, had to!), and saw Cuba. Never knew that. I do know about the fighter though. What's the deal with the potential Spanish origin? If you don't mind educating me TB.

Nothing much to tell; after the Revolution, all professional sport was phased out in Cuba, thus Legra left Cuba and settled down in Spain, where I believe he became a citizen.

[teeto]

Nothing much to tell; after the Revolution, all professional sport was phased out in Cuba, thus Legra left Cuba and settled down in Spain, where I believe he became a citizen.
Oh i see, i've been reeading plenty about the revolution lately. Sorry for another thread hi-jack, but have you seen 'Che', or 'The Lost City'?

[TBooze]

Oh i see, i've been reeading plenty about the revolution lately. Sorry for another thread hi-jack, but have you seen 'Che', or 'The Lost City'?

I have read alot about Che, I have been given the DVD, but have yet to watch it.

[Duodenum]

Pedro Carrasco, Baltazar Sangchili, Perico Fernandez, Paulino Uzcudun, Roberto Castanon, Tomato Evangelista.

[teeto]

I have read alot about Che, I have been given the DVD, but have yet to watch it.
You should do, it's in 2 parts, a lot more action than i was hoping for (with stories like that i'd rather have less of the action and more of the important). But enjoy when you get round to it mate.

[la-califa]

Ernesto Espana was a pretty good fighter. also I blieve Crisanto Espana. or was one of them from Venezuela?

[My2Sense]

Ernesto Espana was a pretty good fighter. also I blieve Crisanto Espana. or was one of them from Venezuela?

Crisanto was originally from Venezuela, and based in Ireland.

[My2Sense]

Paolino Uzcudun?

That was the first name that popped into my head when I saw this thread.

But if Legra is indeed Spanish, then I would rate him over Uzcudun.

Either way, there definitely is a paucity of quality fighters from Spain.

[AlFrancis]

No one gives a damn about the sport in Spain. Football, football, football, bullfighting, motorsports, a little tennis and a little basketball. That's about it.

And given their food, their wine and their broads, I ain't feeling sorry for Spain any time soon.


Your right. I live in Spain and boxing is dead here really. Nothing in the papers, nothing on the tele, nada. Big sports are football, basketball (world champions), Tennis, Formula 1 and motorbikes. Chess probably gets more newsprint than Boxing.
They had a big get together of all the sporting greats of the country last year organised by Marca and I think Legra was the only boxer there.
Got talking to some older Spaniards once and they remembered Jose Legra, Mimoun Ben Ali, Miguel Velasquez and Pedro Carrasco. The young lad with them knew of Javier Castillejo but that was it.

[mcvey]

Pedro Carrasco, Baltazar Sangchili, Perico Fernandez, Paulino Uzcudun, Roberto Castanon, Tomato Evangelista.

Evangelista was Uraguyan

[Mendoza]

Maybe it's Castellejo...and that's pretty sad, actually if he is.


I think its Javier Castillejo too. Spain has had a few European champions. Castellejo is the only world champion from Spain that I am aware of.

[AlFrancis]

Jose Urtain got the big build up late 60's early 70's till he ran into "Our Henry". On his way beating that wonderfully named German Heavyweight Arno Prick.

[Duodenum]

Evangelista was UraguyanOops! My bad. (Thanks for the correction. Stupid me!:oops:)

[la-califa]

Not much luck on the internet about Spanish fighters, However I did see a tidbit about Scott Harrison being jailed in Spain for assault. He got 2 1/2 years in jail. Just this past April.

[Seamus]

Your right. I live in Spain and boxing is dead here really. Nothing in the papers, nothing on the tele, nada. Big sports are football, basketball (world champions), Tennis, Formula 1 and motorbikes. Chess probably gets more newsprint than Boxing.
They had a big get together of all the sporting greats of the country last year organised by Marca and I think Legra was the only boxer there.
Got talking to some older Spaniards once and they remembered Jose Legra, Mimoun Ben Ali, Miguel Velasquez and Pedro Carrasco. The young lad with them knew of Javier Castillejo but that was it.

I travel there once a year for work. I would move there in a heartbeat.

[scartissue]

I recall a bantam that wasn't too shabby during the early 70s named Agustin Senin. Don't recall much on him other than he was being touted for a title fight and may have been unbeaten. Can't recall why he retired.

Scartissue

[AlFrancis]

I recall a bantam that wasn't too shabby during the early 70s named Agustin Senin. Don't recall much on him other than he was being touted for a title fight and may have been unbeaten. Can't recall why he retired.

Scartissue

He retired unbeaten 40 odd fights to go into a monastry as far as I know.
My dad lost a European title fight against him said he really rated him highly.

[flamengo]

He retired unbeaten 40 odd fights to go into a monastrey as far as I know.
My dad lost a European title fight against him said he really rated him highly.

was there not a certain amout of issues relating to that fight?? You're dad ripped off??

[AlFrancis]

was there not a certain amout of issues relating to that fight?? You're dad ripped off??


No, he got beat fair and square, was decked early on a couple of times but came back strong at that end. Getting stopped early in the Olivares fight actually helped my dad out in this one, getting hurt early wasn't a new experience for him.
The fight your talking about is Mimoun Ben Ali. Ripped off big time, The daily Mirror headline was "What a load of Barcelona bull" The ref wouldn't even let me dad fight. kepy grabbing hold of him.
It was in the bull ring in Barcelona, My old fella reckons he was even given the bulls dressing room.

[Drew101]

Miguel Velasquez and Pedro Carassco both won world titles, albeit by DQ.

[AlFrancis]

Miguel Velasquez and Pedro Carassco both won world titles, albeit by DQ.



Both fights in Spain as well. From what I've read Buchanan's loss to Velasquez was contraversial.

[heehoo]

I could have swore that is was the late Paolino Uzcudun, the Basque, but than again I'm not really sure.