Why do I feel exhausted doing stamina drills after shadowboxing?

[boxingwizard]

Why do I feel exhausted doing stamina drills after shadowboxing? I do push myself in my shadowboxing, but when stamina drills come for me, it's like my body starts collapsing on me. I struggle to throw snappy punches, and by the end of the session even though I'm pushing myself, I'm barely throwing arm punches. Everything starts shutting down concerning muscle movement but I'd like to be able to go all out on all of my training so what should I do to not feel exhaused doing stamina drills?
I've noticed my running stamina has gotten a lot better this week by the way, I guess that could help.

[Dan]

diet, conditioning, aerobic capacity - VO2max etc????

[Bodi]

Sounds like you have identified a weakness in one of your energy systems, most likely the aerobic glycolytic system. Diet has a large bearing on the efficiency of this system - plenty of fats and carbs needed.

You also need to look at your sleep patterns and how the rest of your training programme is constructed.

[RDJ]

Sounds like you have identified a weakness in one of your energy systems, most likely the aerobic glycolytic system. Diet has a large bearing on the efficiency of this system - plenty of fats and carbs needed.

Not to forget minerals and vitamins (and other phytonutrients). In a recent thread about his diet it turned out there was little to no nutritional value in it at all. He did not really take me serious when I told him the downsides of such a diet, so I'll just leave it at this.

[Rakim]

Why do I feel exhausted doing stamina drills after shadowboxing? I do push myself in my shadowboxing, but when stamina drills come for me, it's like my body starts collapsing on me. I struggle to throw snappy punches, and by the end of the session even though I'm pushing myself, I'm barely throwing arm punches. Everything starts shutting down concerning muscle movement but I'd like to be able to go all out on all of my training so what should I do to not feel exhaused doing stamina drills?
I've noticed my running stamina has gotten a lot better this week by the way, I guess that could help.




Because you use Gatorade as a 'nutrition and vitamin boost'.

[Bodi]

Not to forget minerals and vitamins (and other phytonutrients). In a recent thread about his diet it turned out there was little to no nutritional value in it at all. He did not really take me serious when I told him the downsides of such a diet, so I'll just leave it at this.

Ahh, now I wasn't aware of the diet issues - I must have missed that thread. Whenever I give advice I usually assume that everyone lives like I do - this is a mistake on my part. Yes, you are correct rdj, vits and mins are hugely important for both performance and recovery. A good, well balanced diet should provide the majority of the nutrients that one would require, with supplementation perhaps being needed during times of extreme training.

[RDJ]

Ahh, now I wasn't aware of the diet issues - I must have missed that thread. Whenever I give advice I usually assume that everyone lives like I do - this is a mistake on my part. Yes, you are correct rdj, vits and mins are hugely important for both performance and recovery. A good, well balanced diet should provide the majority of the nutrients that one would require, with supplementation perhaps being needed during times of extreme training.

Here's the thread in question. What Rakim said was not a joke.

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[Bodi]

Here's the thread in question. What Rakim said was not a joke.

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Wow, it's not often that I find myself at a loss for words, but i'm pretty much speechless at present, and I only read the first couple of posts.

My advice would be to first go on a major detox - there will be so much shit in your system right now that you will never be able to perform to even 10% of your potential.

Secondly, believe what RDJ says regarding diet - he knows his stuff. Let's put things this way, say you had an identical twin brother, and you spent 1 month training under my tutelage (or even Nacho B's for that matter), and you carried on with your diet. On the other hand, your twin brother spent 1 month training moderately, but eating the foods that RDJ has suggested. After one month is up, I can tell you this for a fact, your twin brother would be infinitely fitter, faster, stronger, more alert, have a better body composition, would be able to concentrate for longer, would have better punch resistance, and would have comparatively superhuman powers of recovery compared to you. A good diet cannot be underestimated. Let me demonstrate this by naming 2 fighters - Bernard Hopkins and Ricky Hatton. I don't think I need to explain why B-Hops is still whipping the likes of Kelly Pavlik well into his fourties, whilst Ricky Hatton is showing all of the signs of a shot fighter by the time he hit 30.

Thirdly - Smoothies!!! Dump the gatorade and get smoothies into your system. You can do absolutely anything with a smoothie, low cal, high energy, high protein etc. For any serious athlete, smoothies are an absolute must imo.

[RDJ]

Yes man! Fruit smoothies, vegetable soups and herbal teas will provide your body with all the nutrients it needs and it's friendly on your schedule because they can all be prepared in advance.

I'm 33 years old myself, a few months ago I worked out twice a day for many weeks in a row without a single indication of overtraining, sometimes 4 hours a day. On your diet I would have crashed in less than a week.

Of course you're exhausted. Most of the systems in your body do not get the fuel they need. Some do but the fuel has no way of reaching it's target.

[spittle8]

I've messaged boxingwizard a number of times and commented in his threads. He is not serious about receiving advice and following it. He's doing shit like throwing combinations and shit before he's even learned to throw a proper jab or learned his footwork. He's a lost cause, and will be severely beaten when he gets in the ring. He's in for a rude awakening, poor fellow.

[paloalto00]

Why do I feel exhausted doing stamina drills after shadowboxing? I do push myself in my shadowboxing, but when stamina drills come for me, it's like my body starts collapsing on me. I struggle to throw snappy punches, and by the end of the session even though I'm pushing myself, I'm barely throwing arm punches. Everything starts shutting down concerning muscle movement but I'd like to be able to go all out on all of my training so what should I do to not feel exhaused doing stamina drills?
I've noticed my running stamina has gotten a lot better this week by the way, I guess that could help.

Probably because you think of it too much. During sparring I used to cheat myself because I was too focused on not getting tired instead of leaving it all in the ring

[gatto]

maybe you're too stiff when you shadowbox; loosen up. When you're stiff...you use up more energyyyyyy

[boxingwizard]

I've messaged boxingwizard a number of times and commented in his threads. He is not serious about receiving advice and following it. He's doing shit like throwing combinations and shit before he's even learned to throw a proper jab or learned his footwork. He's a lost cause, and will be severely beaten when he gets in the ring. He's in for a rude awakening, poor fellow.
I've slowed down a lot on things, the main problem is I don't have anyone but people on here to tell me what I'm doing right or wrong, but I think I've improved a lot since my last video. I think I'm going to try and upload a new one tomorrow of me shadowboxing to let everyone here see what I'm doing right or wrong.
Over here in America gatorade is what the football and basketball players drink on the sidelines during games when tired and thirsty to restore electrolyte and hydrogen levels, I thought it'd be a nice alternative after my training as opposed to my usual soda drink.

[colin7878]

I've messaged boxingwizard a number of times and commented in his threads. He is not serious about receiving advice and following it. He's doing shit like throwing combinations and shit before he's even learned to throw a proper jab or learned his footwork. He's a lost cause, and will be severely beaten when he gets in the ring. He's in for a rude awakening, poor fellow.

I am pretty much with you on this he needs to get some professional help at a gym:bbb

[Cobra33]

Relax and stay loose when you shadowbox.If yor all tensed up you'll get tired much quicker.

[RDJ]

Over here in America gatorade is what the football and basketball players drink on the sidelines during games when tired and thirsty to restore electrolyte and hydrogen levels

It's 100% shit. Their team probably has a contract with Gatorade. I repeat there is nothing of value in Gatorade.

[Bodi]

Wizard - regardless of what you have read, you are misinformed.

I'll give you a few guidelines for a healthy diet:

If there are words on the package that you can't pronounce, its shit.

If it was produced in a factory, its shit.

If its organically grown, eat it.

Keep these three points in mind before you shove anything down your throat and you won't go far wrong.

And just to add a little bit of motivation to eat healthy for you, if you haven't already got the message - if you keep on eating like you have been, chances are that you will be impotent by the time you're thirty... think about it.

[RDJ]

Continuing Bodi's diet rules:

- If your grandmother's grandmother would not recognize it, it's not food (unless of course it simply wasn't known in that part of the world, you get the gist).
- If any of the ingredients carries a patent, it's not food.

[Rakim]

Continuing Bodi's diet rules:

- If your grandmother's grandmother would not recognize it, it's not food (unless of course it simply wasn't known in that part of the world, you get the gist).
- If any of the ingredients carries a patent, it's not food.




You should make a sticky thread in here called Rules for Healthy Eating, and give 20 (or whatever) ways of telling whether you should be eating something or not. Combine Bodi's post with a few of yours and you're nearly there already.

[RDJ]

If we get to a set that's universally applicable I'll sticky it. Another rule that was mentioned in another thread by boxingtactics07:

- If the deli doesn't cut it fresh in front of you & the meat/fish/fowl is not by the butcher area, don't buy it.

I like that one because violation of this rule probably means a lot of preservatives (is that even a word) have been used. I always follow the famous "cat rule" as well. If the cat won't eat it, it has gone bad. Throw it out. But perhaps my cats are more picky than others :D

[Boxaholic]

Your cat looks badass lol

[RDJ]

That's not mine, I'm getting this cat and his brother in about 4 weeks :D

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[TheRock49]

If we get to a set that's universally applicable I'll sticky it. Another rule that was mentioned in another thread by boxingtactics07:

- If the deli doesn't cut it fresh in front of you & the meat/fish/fowl is not by the butcher area, don't buy it.

I like that one because violation of this rule probably means a lot of preservatives (is that even a word) have been used. I always follow the famous "cat rule" as well. If the cat won't eat it, it has gone bad. Throw it out. But perhaps my cats are more picky than others :D

If the cat wont eat it, it has gone bad... I dont like this rule. My dog eats her shit all the time... so is it safe for me to eat my own shit?

[Rakim]

If the cat wont eat it, it has gone bad... I dont like this rule. My dog eats her shit all the time... so is it safe for me to eat my own shit?



He eats his own, I bet he wouldn't touch yours with a bargepole. He's not a fucking animal.

[spittle8]

He eats his own, I bet he wouldn't touch yours with a bargepole. He's not a fucking animal.
:rofl:lol:

[spittle8]

I've slowed down a lot on things, the main problem is I don't have anyone but people on here to tell me what I'm doing right or wrong, but I think I've improved a lot since my last video. I think I'm going to try and upload a new one tomorrow of me shadowboxing to let everyone here see what I'm doing right or wrong.
Over here in America gatorade is what the football and basketball players drink on the sidelines during games when tired and thirsty to restore electrolyte and hydrogen levels, I thought it'd be a nice alternative after my training as opposed to my usual soda drink.
Gatorade beats soda.

A trainer would be priceless, but many on here have given you advice that can get you started and you seem determined to be doing shit you can't do yet, like throwing hooks, combinations and trying fancy shit on the bag. You're just wasting your time doing that crap, trust me. Good luck all the same.

I am pretty much with you on this he needs to get some professional help at a gym:bbb
His first sparring session will be a revelation.:bbb:shock:

[Pugsley]

I worry for his future

Because you use Gatorade as a 'nutrition and vitamin boost'.

[doylexxx]

gatorade is probably their sponsor and water is probably in the bottles lol

[RDJ]

Gatorade beats soda.

That's like saying Mike Tyson beats Arturo Gatti. No wait, more like Tyson Fury, because Gatorade is 100% shit.

[colin7878]

I worry for his future

with his other posts he needs to rethink things lol

[spittle8]

That's like saying Mike Tyson beats Arturo Gatti. No wait, more like Tyson Fury, because Gatorade is 100% shit.
Yar, isn't it just sugar and salt? Flavorings as well, of course.